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March 06, 2015, 01:03:39 PM
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Hi, I remember espringe starting a similar thread about self moderated threads last month right here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948771

But here is the thing. Today, this happened

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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How are you defining 'revenue' here? Is it the amount players wager? The amount the lose? The amount you take as commission from their bets? Something else?

And what does "up to" mean? Sounds like some people will earn less than 30%. How is that decided?

Are there other rules? I seem to remember a dispute in the past where you refused to pay out when someone referred you a bunch of players because you didn't like something he did. It was a while ago now so I forget the details. Are the terms and conditions available somewhere?

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Revenue is players loss that month.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235

Also, just as a reminder, I am still waiting for my bounty here.

Basically The owner of a casino, who has a negative trust who runs a casino site in a shady way , posted a lie:
The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Now I replied " Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235 "
Which was in reponse to his outright lie.


Now I posted to tell he is lying, but he currently has the right to delete the posts. Should this be allowed on the thread ? I see no reason , why he should take advantage of the moderation to legit questions on the thread.


ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.



Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9592998#msg9592998


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March 06, 2015, 01:11:57 PM
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Self-moderated threads are a great litmus tests for scammers and hypocrites, much like how Bitcoin itself tests those who truly believe in real free markets giving people that kind of power also shows up who actually believes in freedom of speech and who doesn't. If you've got a real problem with a guy who's abusing the self-moderation then I recommend making another thread to discuss him, we had a recent drama with Woodcollector I'm sure you've seen where he was just making posts constantly and locking them etc. because people wouldn't put up with his shit, the moderators very rarely intervene with this kind of thing so if you make your own thread he won't be able to censor anything you say.
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March 06, 2015, 01:32:40 PM
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ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.



Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9592998#msg9592998



As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.

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March 06, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
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ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.



Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9592998#msg9592998



As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.

Thanks for that .I haven't officially been warned by any of the staff here. It was just him warning me directly.
However as for the moderation allowed, not everyone reads the other threads. And if someone is actually trolling on the selfmoderated thread, then they would automatically be banned by the staff after 1 warning. So whats the point of allowing the self moderated thread ?

The op also keeps lying about a lot of things, and says he auto deletes the posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960826.msg10511650#msg10511650

So how am I supposed to reply to that ? I can't possibly just quote every reply of his and reply back in the self moderated thread.

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March 06, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
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You can create your own thread to respond for censor-free discussion. Just quote the messages you want to reply to and link to the thread in your op. This is your best option.

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March 06, 2015, 04:40:22 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
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March 06, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.
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March 06, 2015, 04:53:48 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, scams aren't moderated. Prior to leaving a negative feedback, I would suggest you to sum up the details and open a scam accusation thread and link that thread in 'negative feedback'. It will give more weight to it because if there is no reference, PocketRocketCasinos can tell they are jealous or they didn't like me etc...

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March 06, 2015, 05:00:49 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, scams aren't moderated. Prior to leaving a negative feedback, I would suggest you to sum up the details and open a scam accusation thread and link that thread in 'negative feedback'. It will give more weight to it because if there is no reference, PocketRocketCasinos can tell they are jealous or they didn't like me etc...

   -MZ

There is a scam accusation thread on the forum from few months back already. But overall that would just bring a negative trust on Dean , which already exists due to one.
But still that doesn't stop people from investing in the site, but thats the decision they are entitled to

I just don't like the fact, that when something wrong happens, and I(or some other guys like espringe) post about it(even with a legitimate question), he still deletes it, and threatens me with the message.

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March 06, 2015, 05:22:32 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, I would agree negative feedback should be given instead of having a moderator take any action.
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March 06, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
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Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, scams aren't moderated. Prior to leaving a negative feedback, I would suggest you to sum up the details and open a scam accusation thread and link that thread in 'negative feedback'. It will give more weight to it because if there is no reference, PocketRocketCasinos can tell they are jealous or they didn't like me etc...

   -MZ

There is a scam accusation thread on the forum from few months back already. But overall that would just bring a negative trust on Dean , which already exists due to one.
But still that doesn't stop people from investing in the site, but thats the decision they are entitled to

I just don't like the fact, that when something wrong happens, and I(or some other guys like espringe) post about it(even with a legitimate question), he still deletes it, and threatens me with the message.

PM threats should be handled by staff, and noone should be forced to keep quiet about it, even if it is not anything serious, it can be considered PM spam.
Regarding self moderated thread, tho, you cant really force someone to keep your post, no matter what, it is their topic in the end, what u can do is start your own thread instead.

If we were to remove self moderated threads becuse of isolated incidents like this one, there would be inanely a lot of new work that staff would have to deal with on a daily basis, so its better
to leave option to thread starter to do that on their own,and you are not defenceless, you have option to start own topic, start scam report, or use trust system to flag his account.

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March 06, 2015, 05:31:51 PM
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I also want to ask you to start a thread and put proof.
I was very close to invest (yeah, a tiny amount, but still..) into his dice site, not believing the (only) negative feedback he had because it .. just sounded silly and had no proof for anything wrong done.

Some events made me change my mind and now, reading this, I .. feel lucky.


So yeah, please make a proper scam accusation. It'll help others.

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March 06, 2015, 05:59:44 PM
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I also want to ask you to start a thread and put proof.
I was very close to invest (yeah, a tiny amount, but still..) into his dice site, not believing the (only) negative feedback he had because it .. just sounded silly and had no proof for anything wrong done.

Some events made me change my mind and now, reading this, I .. feel lucky.


So yeah, please make a proper scam accusation. It'll help others.

Well, there is already another thread for it, but I doubt if a lot of people actually read it, as its on the front page of the gamble section not for long, so its not worth posting much there.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960826.0  . Some other people have also expressed how their legit concern posts were deleted.


And some of the scam accusations and posts(you can avoid reading these if you don't want to go in deep) :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=779932
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9490285#msg9490285
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9598425#msg9598425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927971.msg10439233#msg10439233
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948771
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853348.0

But in the end, everyone is free to their own opinion. I just posted this, as I felt, its not right to allow a questionable casino to moderate the thread in such a manner, as even someone who comes from outside the forum, won't really be looking at the other threads to see whats actually happening

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March 07, 2015, 01:10:31 AM
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Wow
I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 

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March 07, 2015, 01:19:12 AM
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Any business is going to have it's share of trolls. You need to learn to deal with them professionally. The post that you deleted that is mentioned in the OP is not trolling however may show you in a negative light, and it is not appropriate to delete that content.

If what is being said about you is false then you should respond with facts, not with the delete button. If you are deleting one thing that puts you in a potentially negative light then you are almost certainly deleting other things that put you in negative light, including potential disputes that any business will eventually have a lot of.

Your "automatic delete" list is also very large, larger then I would expect most similar type lists to be (despite the fact that such lists are not appropriate), and I believe that the people in your list to be each distinct people (although I cannot say for 100% certainty).
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I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 


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March 07, 2015, 01:21:26 AM
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As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.
Are you sure about this? I don't think anyone actually has the authority to tell you not to post in their thread (with the exception of 'local rules' which must be made when the OP was made), however local rules would likely not be implemented in self moderated threads because they are well self moderated
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Any business is going to have it's share of trolls. You need to learn to deal with them professionally. The post that you deleted that is mentioned in the OP is not trolling however may show you in a negative light, and it is not appropriate to delete that content.

If what is being said about you is false then you should respond with facts, not with the delete button. If you are deleting one thing that puts you in a potentially negative light then you are almost certainly deleting other things that put you in negative light, including potential disputes that any business will eventually have a lot of.

Your "automatic delete" list is also very large, larger then I would expect most similar type lists to be (despite the fact that such lists are not appropriate), and I believe that the people in your list to be each distinct people (although I cannot say for 100% certainty).
Wow
I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 



The situation about the domain has been disputed many many times. It happened months ago yet this group keeps bringing it up. Same with other resolved situations.

Finniles bug bounty claim is nonsense too. He spoted a UI bug, emailed me and threatened to post it in forum if I didn't pay him within 10 minutes.
That's not how any bug bounty program works. It turned out he didn't really know what he was talking about and was looking to do maximum damage and hold me to ransom.

Everyone on Pocket Rockets Casino chat including investors seen what he was doing and knew what he was up to.

Since then, and I think that was August or September, he has emailed me, pm'd me and posted in many threads claiming I owe him a bounty when I don't.

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March 07, 2015, 01:31:51 AM
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Any business is going to have it's share of trolls. You need to learn to deal with them professionally. The post that you deleted that is mentioned in the OP is not trolling however may show you in a negative light, and it is not appropriate to delete that content.

If what is being said about you is false then you should respond with facts, not with the delete button. If you are deleting one thing that puts you in a potentially negative light then you are almost certainly deleting other things that put you in negative light, including potential disputes that any business will eventually have a lot of.

Your "automatic delete" list is also very large, larger then I would expect most similar type lists to be (despite the fact that such lists are not appropriate), and I believe that the people in your list to be each distinct people (although I cannot say for 100% certainty).
Wow
I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 



The situation about the domain has been disputed many many times. It happened months ago yet this group keeps bringing it up. Same with other resolved situations.

Finniles bug bounty claim is nonsense too. He spoted a UI bug, emailed me and threatened to post it in forum if I didn't pay him within 10 minutes.
That's not how any bug bounty program works. It turned out he didn't really know what he was talking about and was looking to do maximum damage and hold me to ransom.

Everyone on Pocket Rockets Casino chat including investors seen what he was doing and knew what he was up to.

Since then, and I think that was August or September, he has emailed me, pm'd me and posted in many threads claiming I owe him a bounty when I don't.


If that is the case then you should point that out whenever he makes a post in your thread, or if you point it out enough then others who frequent your thread will point it out for you.
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March 07, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
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Any business is going to have it's share of trolls. You need to learn to deal with them professionally. The post that you deleted that is mentioned in the OP is not trolling however may show you in a negative light, and it is not appropriate to delete that content.

If what is being said about you is false then you should respond with facts, not with the delete button. If you are deleting one thing that puts you in a potentially negative light then you are almost certainly deleting other things that put you in negative light, including potential disputes that any business will eventually have a lot of.

Your "automatic delete" list is also very large, larger then I would expect most similar type lists to be (despite the fact that such lists are not appropriate), and I believe that the people in your list to be each distinct people (although I cannot say for 100% certainty).
Wow
I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 



The situation about the domain has been disputed many many times. It happened months ago yet this group keeps bringing it up. Same with other resolved situations.

Finniles bug bounty claim is nonsense too. He spoted a UI bug, emailed me and threatened to post it in forum if I didn't pay him within 10 minutes.
That's not how any bug bounty program works. It turned out he didn't really know what he was talking about and was looking to do maximum damage and hold me to ransom.

Everyone on Pocket Rockets Casino chat including investors seen what he was doing and knew what he was up to.

Since then, and I think that was August or September, he has emailed me, pm'd me and posted in many threads claiming I owe him a bounty when I don't.


If that is the case then you should point that out whenever he makes a post in your thread, or if you point it out enough then others who frequent your thread will point it out for you.

And then it becomes a case of them just spamming the thread and arguing over and over. That is not a solution.
Any legit player, potential player, investor or someone with a genuine concern can post in the thread and it will not be removed. But I can't waste my time every day having to defend the site over and over and it clutters up the thread for people trying to get real answers or news. It doesn't stop. It's been going on since August.

I find it very unfair that you just gave negative trust like that without even knowing the situation, asking or even considering there might be more to the story.

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March 07, 2015, 01:39:19 AM
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Any business is going to have it's share of trolls. You need to learn to deal with them professionally. The post that you deleted that is mentioned in the OP is not trolling however may show you in a negative light, and it is not appropriate to delete that content.

If what is being said about you is false then you should respond with facts, not with the delete button. If you are deleting one thing that puts you in a potentially negative light then you are almost certainly deleting other things that put you in negative light, including potential disputes that any business will eventually have a lot of.

Your "automatic delete" list is also very large, larger then I would expect most similar type lists to be (despite the fact that such lists are not appropriate), and I believe that the people in your list to be each distinct people (although I cannot say for 100% certainty).
Wow
I didn't even know this existed but noticed someone here gave me negative trust with this thread as a reference.

I have admitted I automatically delete posts by finnile, espringe, BAY and a few other trolls from my main thread.

I have had nothing but abuse and harassment from them for months now.

I reported this abuse to the mods already but it doesn't stop them creating lies or twisting stories to suit their own agenda.
Just because they post things doesn't mean it's true. There's two sides to every story. Ask yourself what's the agenda here from these people.

If you look at the feedback on my account you will see that the only people with and things to say are them. Everyone else seems to have had a positive experience with Pocket Rockets Casino.

Even in all the old threads the only people complaining were this same group. Whenever I posted a news worthy item or promotion it would be buried in seconds from them coming in and accusing me of scamming or something else.
That's why I created a self moderated thread.

The trust system here is terribly abused and pretty damaging.

I have run Pocket Rockets Casino since April 2013. I have the largest amount invested of any Bitcoin dice site and have done since around September last year. All stats show that there is nothing shady going on at all.
Put simply, if I was trying to scam then people would have known ages ago and there wouldn't be so much invested.

I even added a leveraged system so that people didn't need to keep as much coins on the site.

There's not many other operators that are as trustworthy and run honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino.
 



The situation about the domain has been disputed many many times. It happened months ago yet this group keeps bringing it up. Same with other resolved situations.

Finniles bug bounty claim is nonsense too. He spoted a UI bug, emailed me and threatened to post it in forum if I didn't pay him within 10 minutes.
That's not how any bug bounty program works. It turned out he didn't really know what he was talking about and was looking to do maximum damage and hold me to ransom.

Everyone on Pocket Rockets Casino chat including investors seen what he was doing and knew what he was up to.

Since then, and I think that was August or September, he has emailed me, pm'd me and posted in many threads claiming I owe him a bounty when I don't.


If that is the case then you should point that out whenever he makes a post in your thread, or if you point it out enough then others who frequent your thread will point it out for you.

And then it becomes a case of them just spamming the thread and arguing over and over. That is not a solution.
Any legit player, potential player, investor or someone with a genuine concern can post in the thread and it will not be removed. But I can't waste my time every day having to defend the site over and over and it clutters up the thread for people trying to get real answers or news. It doesn't stop. It's been going on since August.

I find it very unfair that you just gave negative trust like that without even knowing the situation, asking or even considering there might be more to the story.


If what they do is trolling then you should report their posts and if their posts are against the rules it will be deleted and if they do it enough then they will eventually get banned (which would be a better solution to the problem that you claim to have)
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