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March 08, 2015, 06:34:56 PM
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Is there a good reasoning why this is the way here? Isn't it staff job to keep these forums in order and safe?
To prevent abuse mostly. Yes Ponzi's are often bad, but if we start removing them we would have to remove other proven/most likely proven scams as well. This can get really tricky, so we stay out.

Why is it better to not even try to remove the obvious scams? You could do a few mistakes here and there, still I'd say it would be worth it. Of course it requires work to moderate for scams. Anyway wouldn't it be better for all of us if these forums had more utility?
To prevent admins from calling me dumb, I let you know I understand this is not a simple decision.
Some of even what most people think are the most obvious scams turn out to be legit.

It is up to the people who are trading on here to take their own precautions to prevent themselves from getting scammed (which includes doing their own research and coming to their own conclusion)
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March 08, 2015, 07:42:13 PM
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By calling PONZI/SCAMS section "Investor-based games", its immoral in my opinion when we all know that section is FULL OF SCAMMERS .

First people whine because the Foo section is full of scams, now that the scams have been moved to their own de-facto trashcan, people whine about its name.

Well at least there's no people whining about sites moved to a trashcan of sorts (or is there? I don't even get near that part of the forum).
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March 09, 2015, 12:19:53 AM
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By calling PONZI/SCAMS section "Investor-based games", its immoral in my opinion when we all know that section is FULL OF SCAMMERS .

First people whine because the Foo section is full of scams, now that the scams have been moved to their own de-facto trashcan, people whine about its name.

Well at least there's no people whining about sites moved to a trashcan of sorts (or is there? I don't even get near that part of the forum).

I dont whine, please READ what i said.To make it simple for you, maybe u will understand like this :




My point is, they should be AT LEAST called PONZI's, and not investor  games.

I hope im clear for u too now dserrano5
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March 09, 2015, 12:23:47 AM
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Why is it better to not even try to remove the obvious scams? You could do a few mistakes here and there, still I'd say it would be worth it. Of course it requires work to moderate for scams. Anyway wouldn't it be better for all of us if these forums had more utility?
I would agree with removing a very obvious scam, but even they could turn out to be legit. I would be in favor of that if the rules ever change, but it isn't our job to babysit users on the forum. There is a massive warning sign and people shouldn't rely on the staff to remove scams.

This is my opinion though and I'm sure one of the staff members could explain this a lot better than I did.

When a site has the word "ponzi" in his domain name, u see a chance for it to be legit ? Or "make 300% in 3 hours" ?

Anyways, i wont post no more about this, clearly, these scams/ponzis are tolerated so there is nothing to do about it.
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March 09, 2015, 01:03:33 AM
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Calling it the Ponzi section would then require an additional section for other "investor based games" so why not lump them all together? I think all gambling is a scam, dice sites are just as scammy as ponzi sites in my opinion, however I have no objections to people gambling/wasting their money as they wish, I just know that I wont. If people dont like ponzis, they can avoid the section. If they have an objection to words spoken in french, they can avoid the french section, no one is forcing anyone to partake in anything. At this point, no one is being tricked into dumping money into a ponzi scheme, because the ponzi schemes are telling everyone that they are a ponzi scheme, and people are still dumping money in.
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March 09, 2015, 04:08:07 AM
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By calling PONZI/SCAMS section "Investor-based games", its immoral in my opinion when we all know that section is FULL OF SCAMMERS .

First people whine because the Foo section is full of scams, now that the scams have been moved to their own de-facto trashcan, people whine about its name.

Well at least there's no people whining about sites moved to a trashcan of sorts (or is there? I don't even get near that part of the forum).

I dont whine, please READ what i said.To make it simple for you, maybe u will understand like this :




My point is, they should be AT LEAST called PONZI's, and not investor  games.

I hope im clear for u too now dserrano5

I am fully agree with u, if it is called "ponzi/hyip game" should be better, or I am afraid some newbies may be scammed by them because they see"investor-based" so they think they are investors, but not speculators or potential victims.

Overall, "ponzi/hyip game" is much better, I hope mods can see my advice.
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March 09, 2015, 06:31:16 AM
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By calling PONZI/SCAMS section "Investor-based games", its immoral in my opinion when we all know that section is FULL OF SCAMMERS .
You should simply forbid this kind of scams, not make their own section, and on top of that calling it "Investor-based games" ...

I agree with you.

After this section has been added, significant amount of ponzi scheme owners has advertised on the forum by creating alt accounts and that results in more scams.
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March 09, 2015, 09:25:42 AM
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I am fully agree with u, if it is called "ponzi/hyip game" should be better, or I am afraid some newbies may be scammed by them because they see"investor-based" so they think they are investors, but not speculators or potential victims.

Overall, "ponzi/hyip game" is much better, I hope mods can see my advice.

I think HYIP should be added to either the title or description and was surprised it wasn't. At least that covers both ponzis and pyramids.

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March 09, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
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I am fully agree with u, if it is called "ponzi/hyip game" should be better, or I am afraid some newbies may be scammed by them because they see"investor-based" so they think they are investors, but not speculators or potential victims.

Overall, "ponzi/hyip game" is much better, I hope mods can see my advice.

I think HYIP should be added to either the title or description and was surprised it wasn't. At least that covers both ponzis and pyramids.

Some HYIP sites in their T&C say that they have the right to close the site down anytime.

That's how crypto double got away for doing what they did.
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March 09, 2015, 09:36:10 PM
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By calling PONZI/SCAMS section "Investor-based games", its immoral in my opinion when we all know that section is FULL OF SCAMMERS .
You should simply forbid this kind of scams, not make their own section, and on top of that calling it "Investor-based games" ...

i still dont understand why they opened a section for those stupid ponzis
they are scam 100% and like you said full of spamers

can someone say to me why the section is open for them?

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March 10, 2015, 01:32:57 PM
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i still dont understand why they opened a section for those stupid ponzis
they are scam 100% and like you said full of spamers

can someone say to me why the section is open for them?

To free Games & Rounds and to move all thos posts to 'Trashcan v2.0'.

Honestly, can't you think 'why'? It doesn't seem hard if you have read Meta threads regarding the discussion about a new sub-board for HYIPs and Ponzis.

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