Taras (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1053
Please do not PM me loan requests!
|
|
March 13, 2015, 10:00:23 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
shorena
Copper Member
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
|
|
March 13, 2015, 10:09:20 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? From my little background in mathematics blockchain would be the highest order of appreciation. "block chain" refers to the two english words, which would be a regular description of any chain of blocks. Since the blockchain was something new at the time it is only natural that satoshi worded it in that way. Blockchain with a capital B even in the middle of a sentence would refer to a proper name or the name of a service. What does that have to do with mathematics you ask? Its all linguistics! Well yes... many mathemtical theorems are named after mathmaticians. They are usually writen with a capital letter since the derive from the name of a person. Not so abelian[1] which derives from to the mathmatician Abel, but is used in lower case. Its also less work to write blockchain [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbelianPS: I voted "who cares"
|
Im not really here, its just your imagination.
|
|
|
flyingplows
|
|
March 13, 2015, 10:40:38 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? I voted Blockchain and it seems I hit the majority. I think blockchain has gone a long way since its creation and now it should be called Blockchain, just like the Internet. Or we could call BTC blockchain a Blockchain and all other altcoin blockchains just blockchains - not start with a capital letter like the original BTC Blockchain that started it all
|
|
|
|
dserrano5
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1029
|
|
March 13, 2015, 10:46:35 PM |
|
I use "blockchain" with small "b". I can't see a reason to capitalise it.
|
|
|
|
Snail2
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
|
|
March 13, 2015, 11:32:26 PM |
|
"blockchain" is good enough me too.
|
|
|
|
nioc
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1008
|
|
March 13, 2015, 11:53:54 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? I discovered btc in early 2013 and had no idea there was any other choice besides blockchain. Thanks for the history. Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? From my little background in mathematics blockchain would be the highest order of appreciation. "block chain" refers to the two english words, which would be a regular description of any chain of blocks. Since the blockchain was something new at the time it is only natural that satoshi worded it in that way. Blockchain with a capital B even in the middle of a sentence would refer to a proper name or the name of a service. What does that have to do with mathematics you ask? Its all linguistics! Well yes... many mathemtical theorems are named after mathmaticians. They are usually writen with a capital letter since the derive from the name of a person. Not so abelian[1] which derives from to the mathmatician Abel, but is used in lower case. Its also less work to write blockchain [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbelianPS: I voted "who cares" I believe shorena covers it very well including his "vote". Alfred E. Neuman
|
|
|
|
Lorenzo
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:06:20 AM |
|
Well, "blockchain" is the more common spelling and it's the one I personally prefer but I know a few others in addition to Satoshi use "block chain" instead. For example, Nick Szabo uses the latter spelling. When referring to the company that provides online wallet services, I usually type it as "Blockchain.info" or simply "Blockchain". Proper nouns should be capitalized and it's probably a good idea to add the ".info" part to reduce ambiguity and the possibility that someone reading it might end up on a phishing site.
|
|
|
|
Gleb Gamow
In memoriam
VIP
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:15:08 AM |
|
Its also less work to write blockchain. Wouldn't performing extra work during the PoW process, viz. penning Blockchain or block chain, exert more hashing power to...
|
|
|
|
TheUnknownOne
Member
Offline
Activity: 92
Merit: 10
BTC: 1CkoxfdqCZEreLec8gcdWjKJh1VSqyn4Cz
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:18:12 AM |
|
blockchain
|
BTC: 1CkoxfdqCZEreLec8gcdWjKJh1VSqyn4Cz Tips/Gifts/Surprises are most welcome
|
|
|
Shuai
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:18:40 AM |
|
Satoshi called it a block chain. Most bitcoin and altcoin developers call it a block chain. Academic writings call it a block chain. Ordinary consumers started calling it a blockchain after blockchain.info basically coopted the word.
|
|
|
|
MAsterV
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:18:52 AM |
|
Blockchain
|
|
|
|
NRF
|
|
March 14, 2015, 12:30:09 AM |
|
Blockchain
I can see this is going to be the new version of the "percent" or "per cent" battle. Personally, as long as people don't start telling other people one is right or better or more accurate I really don't care.
|
|
|
|
Harry Hood
|
|
March 14, 2015, 02:04:38 AM |
|
I think it's one word, "blockchain". Also, it's a unique thing to bitcoin it's like a proper noun, no? If so it should be "Blockchain".
|
|
|
|
Enzyme
|
|
March 14, 2015, 02:19:59 AM |
|
'blockchain' hurts my OCD I'm going to have to stick with Blockchain.
|
|
|
|
alani123
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2394
Merit: 1412
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
|
March 14, 2015, 02:24:51 AM |
|
Not that it makes a big difference, but I always used "blockchain", non-capitalized and one word. I think that if "bitcoin" can be one word, then the same should apply for the blockchain. "block" and "chain" on the other hand are words oftenly used in the English language, it can be confusing for people that don't know blockchain is a different thing.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
EternalWingsofGod
|
|
March 14, 2015, 09:34:37 AM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? Somewhere along the lines it seemed like it belonged in a new word category While a Block Chain is the same as a blockchain People recognize it better together than seperately rather that is because it has become a force of habit or a force of adaptation I guess the former dominates Block-Chain meets it half way just to throw that wrench in there XD (-) good old - sign
|
|
|
|
wadili89
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
|
|
March 14, 2015, 09:40:20 AM |
|
blockchain is fine but sometime i say it blockchain.info because there is another website blockchain.com and this is also a wallet service but i dont know its legit or not
|
|
|
|
Spamela Anderson
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
|
|
March 14, 2015, 09:43:55 AM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? I always thought the proper way was one word blockchain but I wasn't aware that satoshi used it as two. I think blockchain.info was silly (or maybe genius) idea to name themselves after it though as it always leads to confusion or people mistakenly thinking they are the official block explorer.
|
|
|
|
333seven
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
|
|
March 14, 2015, 10:05:30 AM |
|
Its on blockchain
|
|
|
|
redsn0w
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1042
#Free market
|
|
March 14, 2015, 10:11:19 AM |
|
I choosed blockchain and I know it can be confused with the web wallet "blockchain.info". However I find more correct block chain, but it is almost 1,5 year that I'm using the terminology "blockchain" .
|
|
|
|
namecoin
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
|
|
March 14, 2015, 10:15:04 AM |
|
blockchain
|
|
|
|
kusumadewi
|
|
March 14, 2015, 10:19:00 AM |
|
i call it blockchain because name of the website it self "blockchain"
|
|
|
|
teukon
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1002
|
|
March 14, 2015, 10:24:40 AM |
|
For what it is worth: while drafting an electronic mail item before my break-fast this morning I used the term "block chain".
|
|
|
|
shorena
Copper Member
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1499
No I dont escrow anymore.
|
|
March 14, 2015, 11:37:37 AM |
|
i call it blockchain because name of the website it self "blockchain"
This is where people run into problems constantly. They claim to have problems with the blockchain, while they actually have a problem with the service blockchain.info. I dont think its important whether you use "block chain", "blockchain" or "Blockchain" as long as you use something distinct when refering to the service blockchain.info like e.g. bc.i. -snip- people mistakenly thinking they are the official block explorer.
Sadly there are many mistakes due to people thinking something is official regarding to bitcoin. There is no official client, no official blockchain explorer etc. This typically leads to confusing statements, like: "the blockchain is broken".
|
Im not really here, its just your imagination.
|
|
|
rikkie
|
|
March 14, 2015, 07:26:55 PM |
|
I voted 'blockchain' with a lower case 'b'
In response to the OP's concerns about satoshi calling it the 'block chain' - a lot of bitcoin's terminology has changed somewhat over the years. I am not sure what caused these changes, probably just the way the people on the forums in general write. Even theymos used to write Bitcoin as "BitCoin" on one of his first posts
|
|
|
|
kaybb02
|
|
March 15, 2015, 09:33:00 AM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? It is the block chain but people call it the blockchain. The blockchain.info may be part of the cause for this.
|
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ PRIMEDICE The Premier Bitcoin Gambling Experience - PRIMEDICE 3 HAS LAUNCHED @PrimeDice ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
|
|
|
Q7
|
|
March 15, 2015, 09:40:38 AM |
|
I didn't realize that Satoshi referred to it as block chain. But anyway, since the first day that I got into bitcoin, the only terminology that I understood is "blockchain" and that is also what I saw everybody is using as well. This will stick and last for sometime and I have to admit it will be very difficult to change it. As long as when I saw everybody understood it's the same thing, then I'll continue to use it.
|
|
|
|
LuckyBtc
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1011
|
|
March 16, 2015, 10:31:09 AM |
|
One can call whatever they want Blockchain or Block chain. Basically it gives the same meaning. I prefer to call it as "Blockchain".
|
|
|
|
lyth0s
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
World Class Cryptonaire
|
|
March 16, 2015, 10:43:26 AM |
|
I would call it the blockchain without capitals. Like stated previously capitals implies a proper name. A space between the two words separates the ideas to "block" and "chain" rather than a new technological entity known as the blockchain.
|
|
|
|
neoneros
|
|
March 16, 2015, 10:58:34 AM |
|
I would call it the blockchain without capitals. Like stated previously capitals implies a proper name. A space between the two words separates the ideas to "block" and "chain" rather than a new technological entity known as the blockchain.
I think therefore Satoshi had the idea of te block chain, and the adaptors dubbed the idea into a new single word blockchain. I do not think it has to do with the .info site, though people do mistake them for one and the same thing. When working and developing an idea, the two words are describing what is going to become what we call it. The blockchain. Just like the bits and the coins we call bitcoins
|
|
|
|
YarkoL
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 996
Merit: 1012
|
|
March 18, 2015, 11:41:36 AM |
|
Here's a bit of trivia relevant to this topic.
In the earliest code release, Satoshi calls it "timechain" which is actually more descriptive of what it really is.
|
“God does not play dice"
|
|
|
matt4054
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035
|
|
March 18, 2015, 11:51:49 AM |
|
In the earliest code release, Satoshi calls it "timechain" which is actually more descriptive of what it really is.
I beg to disagree, but thanks for the trivia anyway, I didn't know that
|
|
|
|
odedrozan
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
|
|
March 18, 2015, 06:17:31 PM |
|
i call it like this : "blockchain" easy man .
|
|
|
|
acoindr
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1002
|
|
March 19, 2015, 12:52:08 AM |
|
Do you call it dog house or doghouse? As a natural progression of English words commonly used together often join to form a new single word, or compound word. Satoshi used block chain because that made the most sense then. Prior to 2005 there certainly were no blockchains around. What usually happens is words start as two independent words like school bus, or rail way. Then people add a hyphen like rail-way. Eventually this merges into the single word: railway. It's "most correct" I believe to denote each stage as it happens in print over time. We should probably be calling it block chain right now because most people still don't even know what crypto currency is. However, many of us that live and breathe this stuff daily have already skipped any hyphenated forms and went straight to blockchain based cryptocurrency
|
|
|
|
waaat?
|
|
March 19, 2015, 04:50:01 AM |
|
please add option "bloatchain"
|
|
|
|
Dillar
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
|
|
March 19, 2015, 02:54:28 PM |
|
blockchain in relation to technology
|
|
|
|
alani123
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2394
Merit: 1412
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
|
|
March 19, 2015, 03:33:58 PM |
|
please add option "bloatchain"
Hey now, people are (supposedly) working on this issue so it doesn't become a bigger problem in the future.
|
..Stake.com.. | | | ▄████████████████████████████████████▄ ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██ ▄████▄ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ██████ ██ ██████████ ██ ██ ██████████ ██ ▀██▀ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ ███ ██████ ██ ████▄ ██ ██ █████ ███ ████ ████ █████ ███ ████████ ██ ████ ████ ██████████ ████ ████ ████▀ ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██ ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██ ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███ ██ ██ ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████████████████████████████████████ | | | | | | ▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄ █ ▄▀▄ █▀▀█▀▄▄ █ █▀█ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▄██▄ █ ▌ █ █ ▄██████▄ █ ▌ ▐▌ █ ██████████ █ ▐ █ █ ▐██████████▌ █ ▐ ▐▌ █ ▀▀██████▀▀ █ ▌ █ █ ▄▄▄██▄▄▄ █ ▌▐▌ █ █▐ █ █ █▐▐▌ █ █▐█ ▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█ | | | | | | ▄▄█████████▄▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄█▀ ▐█▌ ▀█▄ ██ ▐█▌ ██ ████▄ ▄█████▄ ▄████ ████████▄███████████▄████████ ███▀ █████████████ ▀███ ██ ███████████ ██ ▀█▄ █████████ ▄█▀ ▀█▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄▄▄█▀ ▀███████ ███████▀ ▀█████▄ ▄█████▀ ▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀ | | | ..PLAY NOW.. |
|
|
|
mistercoin
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1042
Merit: 1000
https://r.honeygain.me/XEDDM2B07C
|
|
March 19, 2015, 03:58:19 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? If it's in a sentence "blockchain". If it starts a sentence "Blockchain" for me
|
|
|
|
megamore
|
|
March 19, 2015, 04:41:57 PM |
|
I call it "blockchain"
I rarely mention that word at the beginning of the sentence
|
|
|
|
mistercoin
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1042
Merit: 1000
https://r.honeygain.me/XEDDM2B07C
|
|
March 19, 2015, 05:38:16 PM |
|
I call it "blockchain"
I rarely mention that word at the beginning of the sentence
Rarely is not never For example: "Blockchain technology is cool" or plural: "Blockchains are cool"
|
|
|
|
FuckIdolPlus
|
|
March 19, 2015, 05:44:23 PM |
|
Blockchain all the way
|
|
|
|
Hazir
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
★Nitrogensports.eu★
|
|
March 19, 2015, 05:55:20 PM |
|
After reading all previous comments I can see that majority of people is now using term: 'blockchain'. I just think for now any name will suffice whether it will be blockchain, Block Chain, block chain or Blockchain. We all know what is going on. But it would be helpful to use one standardized name in the future.
|
|
|
|
fvs114
|
|
March 19, 2015, 06:12:17 PM |
|
It's Blockchain
|
|
|
|
busterroni
|
|
March 19, 2015, 06:22:30 PM |
|
I wrote about this here: Blockchain or Block Chain?Bitcoiners spell Bitcoin’s transaction database two different ways, and it is likely that you will see both used: the blockchain (one word) or the block chain (two words). When discussing Bitcoin’s transaction database, they both mean the same thing. There isn’t an official term because there is no official Bitcoin dictionary. However, Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, called it the block chain on multiple occasions. Also, the most popular Bitcoin wiki, bitcoin.it, calls it the block chain. For these reasons, block chain is considered to be more correct, however blockchain is often used colloquially.
|
|
|
|
Taras (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1053
Please do not PM me loan requests!
|
|
March 19, 2015, 08:34:11 PM |
|
I think calling it the "Blockchain" (proper noun) is the worst idea of all, because keeping it lowercase was one last stance against confusion with the company
|
|
|
|
bitkilo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1010
https://www.bitcoin.com/
|
|
March 19, 2015, 11:06:13 PM |
|
I have alway written it as Blockchain. I this when you see it as block chain written by people like Satoshi it could have just been the auto correct.
|
Not a paid signature, just added to promote Bitcoin.com
|
|
|
manselr
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 868
Merit: 1004
|
|
March 19, 2015, 11:12:36 PM |
|
Satoshi Nakamoto always referred to it as such: block chain
However, I see the term "blockchain" used a lot anyways. Do you think we should use Satoshi's terminology to prevent confusion with Blockchain.info, who will usually just refer to themselves as Blockchain? Or am I worried about nothing? Pretty interesting find that Satoshi used an space between block and chain. Personally I say blockchain because im used to blockchain.info, or Blockchain if it's the begining of a sentence lol.
|
|
|
|
btc.to.moon
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
|
|
March 20, 2015, 03:06:46 AM |
|
I used to call it blockchain, but after knowing satoshi called this 'block chain' I will follow him too.
|
|
|
|
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
|
|
March 20, 2015, 03:44:37 AM |
|
I only call the Bitcoin version "Blockchain" but call an altcoin a "blockchain" if it uses Proof-of-Work to build it. Satoshi's "block chain" still exists for those that also use his extra spaces between sentences.
|
Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
|
|
|
|