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March 14, 2015, 03:16:39 AM
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Well, that is what this article wants you to believe.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/ukraines-prime-minister-yatsenyuk-declares-war-russia.html

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Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who on 4 February 2014 was selected for his post by Victoria Nuland of the U.S. State Department, was quoted by Ukrainian media on Thursday March 12th of 2015 as saying that, “Ukraine is in a state of war with a nuclear state, which is the Russian Federation. Hostile countries over the past decade have spent billions of dollars rearming it.”

His quoted statement went on to blame Ukraine’s problems on Russia: “The country [Ukraine] is billions of dollars in debt, having been a corrupt and demoralized nation that has no gas in storage and no dollars to buy it. … [Russia] destroyed 20% of Ukraine’s economy, bombed the mines in the fighting, and produced a million displaced persons, who, as a result are forced to leave their homes.” [NOTE: Those bombs, some of which were firebombs, actually fell from Ukrainian Air Force planes, and were supplemented by Ukrainian Army missiles. The resident forces in the rebel area of the southeast that the Ukrainian Government is fighting against had no air force at all until recently, and very little even now. And, of course, any “rearming” of Russia is being done by Russia, not by “Hostile countries over the past decade.”]

The next day, March 13th, the same Ukrainian ‘news’ source headlined “Militants in the Donbass Are Professional Soldiers Led by the Army of the Russian Federation,” and ‘reported’ that, “Military units of illegal armed groups ‘DNR’ and ‘LC’ are formed on the organizational structure of Russian military units, and the main staff and command positions are appointed by the Russian officers. This was announced during a briefing for foreign journalists on the situation in the Donbas by Deputy Chief of Staff, Colonel Valentin Fedichev of the ATO [Anti Terrorist Operation].” [NOTE: On 29 January 2015, the Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces said that, at least as of that moment in time, there were no Russian troops fighting against the Ukrainian Government’s forces, but only a few individual volunteers from Russia. There are likewise individual volunteers from several countries who are fighting for the Ukrainian Government. In addition, there are military advisors in the war from the U.S. and from Russia.]

On 7 January 2015, Yatsenyuk said in Germany:

“Russian aggression in Ukraine is an attack on world order and order in Europe. All of us still clearly remember the Soviet invasion of Ukraine and Germany. That has to be avoided. And nobody has the right to rewrite the results of the Second World War. And that is exactly what Russia’s President Putin is trying to do.”

[NOTE: There was no “Soviet invasioin of Ukraine and Germany.” Instead, Hitler’s German forces invaded both countries.]

NOTE: How the propaganda statements made by Yatsenyuk (and media) against Russia are in fact false and misleading.

Yet, you may also "note" that the above article is also making false and misleading statements about Yatsenyuk. According to THIS article, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-prime-minister-russia-had-no-reason-to-invade/, Yatsenyuk did not in fact declare war against Russia. Instead what he actually said was, "This is not a threat: this is actually the declaration of war to my country". He went on to say, "If President Putin wants to be the president who started the war between two neighboring and friendly countries, between Ukraine and Russia, he has reached this target within a few inches. We are on the brink of disaster".

Regardless of which side you're on, there is definitely a lot of disinformation and deception coming from both (all) sides of this conflict. Undecided

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March 14, 2015, 08:46:26 AM
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I hope this isn't new to you.

Today's media has nothing to do with "telling the truth"..  Every post is misleading and somehow diverts the truth and the whole story to serve their interest. (Who is "they" you ask?..)
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March 14, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
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I hope this isn't new to you.

Today's media has nothing to do with "telling the truth"..  Every post is misleading and somehow diverts the truth and the whole story to serve their interest. (Who is "they" you ask?..)

No, nothing new, unfortunately. SSDD.  Sad

This is why it's always a good idea to check out more than one (alternate media as opposed to MSM) news source.

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March 14, 2015, 06:49:22 PM
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What caught my eye was this: "The resident forces in the rebel area of the southeast that the Ukrainian Government is fighting against had no air force at all until recently, and very little even now."
So now these rebels also have fighter jets and trained pilots to fly them? How did they get such weapons. Just as they suddenly had BMPs and T80 tanks months ago. I could somehow understand that local militia got ahold of some AKs and grenades, but soon they'll start waging their guerilla war in SU-30s Grin

The reference here is to Lugansk Republic getting hold of a few Ukrainian training fighter aircraft. Calling it an "airforce" is an overstatement.

http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/01/18/lnr-obyavila-o-sozdanii-sobstvennykh-vvs-na-osnove-samoletov-luganskogo-uchilishha.html
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And soon LNR is ready to put on combat duty an Air Force of its own. By the way, they've been talking about the formation of combat aviation already last summer. The then head of the republic Valery Bolotov reported that the foundation will formed by the aircraft captured from the ATO forces(in Kiev, however, they claimed that no aircraft was taken from them).

Now, the current head of LNR, Plotnickij, reports that the fleet will consist of several military vehicles belonging to Lugansk flight school. Machines are fully restored and ready for combat use, "Vesti" report.

"The runway is cleared. Fuel is delivered to the airfield. The first crew of the Air Force Ministry of Defence Lugansk People's Republic is ready to fly."

Remember that a lot of Ukrainian military bases are on the territory of Lugansk and Donetsk, and NAF equipment comes from there, as well as from sales done by Poroshenko and co.

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