ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[bit.alex]

If tapeout is now how is it possible to see hardware in march?

I'm interested in this too

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[GodHatesFigs]

So many bagholders ITT.

[empoweoqwj]

If tapeout is now how is it possible to see hardware in march?

What do you mean? Not enough time?

[mc_lovin]

If tapeout is now how is it possible to see hardware in march?

I'm interested in this too

They can have chips today, but they haven't got actual physical hardware in hand yet.  They would need to develop boards, tune them, and send the final designs to get mass produced.  I can't see this process being under a month. 

I really have no idea what I'm talking about but chips =/= hardware.  Successful tapeout is AMAZING news but that doesn't mean they will be on a shelf at a store near you tomorrow.  They still need to get the rest of it sorted out.  Be mid-Feb at the earliest unless they are magicians. 

[mc_lovin]

Also a lot of the hardware they have put out has seen different revisions.  I think the USBs went through a few different versions before the Sapphire release which rocked, even the Cube that came out has different revs of miniblades...  Even the firmware on the Cube takes time to put together.  This is new gen to them, so I don't think they'll be able to hammer off boards this weekend but they will probably be pushing as hard as they can.  I know that when I buy a next gen Block Erupter I'll want it to be thoroughly tested and tuned!

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

[romerun]

If tapeout is now how is it possible to see hardware in march?

I'm interested in this too

They can have chips today, but they haven't got actual physical hardware in hand yet.  They would need to develop boards, tune them, and send the final designs to get mass produced.  I can't see this process being under a month. 

I really have no idea what I'm talking about but chips =/= hardware.  Successful tapeout is AMAZING news but that doesn't mean they will be on a shelf at a store near you tomorrow.  They still need to get the rest of it sorted out.  Be mid-Feb at the earliest unless they are magicians. 

I thought tapeout means the design is to submit to factory by such date,

[empoweoqwj]

Also a lot of the hardware they have put out has seen different revisions.  I think the USBs went through a few different versions before the Sapphire release which rocked, even the Cube that came out has different revs of miniblades...  Even the firmware on the Cube takes time to put together.  This is new gen to them, so I don't think they'll be able to hammer off boards this weekend but they will probably be pushing as hard as they can.  I know that when I buy a next gen Block Erupter I'll want it to be thoroughly tested and tuned!

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

I'm loving the name, mc_lovin, one of my favorite films, but I'm not sure what "ordering some random cables from China" has to do with AM working on next-gen chips. I humbly suggest the two are not connected. I'd also suggest you get your cables elsewhere because your "cable guys" are pulling a fast one

[TheFuneral]

dividends have been dropping but share price rising?

What information do I not have? or is market volume too shallow to even consider.

[empoweoqwj]

dividends have been dropping but share price rising?

What information do I not have? or is market volume too shallow to even consider.

I can tell you've been "off the grid" for a while

I'll keep this short. Share price is rising in anticipation of Gen3 hardware ... coming "soon"

[mumchristmas]

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

Right. Manufacturers will close for 3-7days in the Chinese New Year. That's the legal holiday week.

[empoweoqwj]

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

Right. Manufacturers will close for 3-7days in the Chinese New Year. That's the legal holiday week.

Doesn't stop them working now though. And you can't force people not to work at "legal holiday" time. I'm sure FC is more interested in making millions that taking 7 days off.

[mumchristmas]

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

Right. Manufacturers will close for 3-7days in the Chinese New Year. That's the legal holiday week.

Doesn't stop them working now though. And you can't force people not to work at "legal holiday" time. I'm sure FC is more interested in making millions that taking 7 days off.

So, I said 3-7days. It depends on FC's management idea and the impetus of employee. A big rest before the real battle is just reasonable.
Calm down. Don't let our imagination run wild.

[empoweoqwj]

Also, unfortunately...  We went to order some random cables from China this week and today they told us they were taking off for their holiday (Chinese New Year).  They said they'd be back in the office Feb 8th.  This may apply to many of the suppliers and services they may need to use in the next few weeks.  So they might not only be able to start working mid-Feb.  But... Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about, just going from common sense really.

Right. Manufacturers will close for 3-7days in the Chinese New Year. That's the legal holiday week.

Doesn't stop them working now though. And you can't force people not to work at "legal holiday" time. I'm sure FC is more interested in making millions that taking 7 days off.

So, I said 3-7days. It depends on FC's management idea and the impetus of employee. A big rest before the real battle is just reasonable.
Calm down. Don't let our imagination run wild.

I'm not worried. I'm suggesting that AM are working, not taking extended vacations just because some random cable supplying company in China gives a bs excuse about not being able to deliver on time - the two are completely unconnected

I know lots of Chinese people in Thailand .... they take a couple of days off - certainly don't stop work for a month

[empoweoqwj]

One thing I do think though is I always presumed this current share prize "boom" was based on some inside info about the tapeout. Seemed rational to me....

If that isn't the case, and it was simply people seeing the 20th January date looming nearer and pour money back into AM, then I can only conclude:

a) Some people are real dumbasses, and
b) If FC doesn't issue a statement before Friday, the share price will be back to 0.50 or lower without a problem by the weekend

[blo8i]

all we can do is wait for some more info.

do you guys rly think there is that there is so much *insider only*info going on

[empoweoqwj]

all we can do is wait for some more info.

do you guys rly think there is that there is so much *insider only*info going on

History tells us yes, AM info leaks out via "webgirls" and resellers before it reaches this "official" forum.

[blo8i]

all we can do is wait for some more info.

do you guys rly think there is that there is so much *insider only*info going on

History tells us yes, AM info leaks out via "webgirls" and resellers before it reaches this "official" forum.

dam i guess i have to keep an eye out, on more than just posts from FC

[empoweoqwj]

all we can do is wait for some more info.

do you guys rly think there is that there is so much *insider only*info going on

History tells us yes, AM info leaks out via "webgirls" and resellers before it reaches this "official" forum.

dam i guess i have to keep an eye out, on more than just posts from FC

The thing is you have to know to where to look, and reading Mandarin is a definite bonus as well. No wonder we all feel so "left behind" - in the end, we just tend to get the info 2nd-hand from Chinese forum members here kind enough to pass the info on. ASICMINER said they would employ a "PR person" .... at least 3 months ago. So far, zippo.

[jimmothy]

all we can do is wait for some more info.

do you guys rly think there is that there is so much *insider only*info going on

History tells us yes, AM info leaks out via "webgirls" and resellers before it reaches this "official" forum.

dam i guess i have to keep an eye out, on more than just posts from FC

The thing is you have to know to where to look, and reading Mandarin is a definite bonus as well. No wonder we all feel so "left behind" - in the end, we just tend to get the info 2nd-hand from Chinese forum members here kind enough to pass the info on. ASICMINER said they would employ a "PR person" .... at least 3 months ago. So far, zippo.

I disagree with the assumption of insider trading. Many times before updates we have seen a sudden price increase even when the news is not spectacular. For example last update we saw the price jump and after the update fall back down and people claimed insider trading then too.

[Lohoris]

I'm sure FC is more interested in making millions that taking 7 days off.

I'm sorry, but this post is a bit... silly.

Of course the CEO wants to make more money... but unless every single employee is a shareholder, of course they are going to take a vacation, given the chance!