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March 20, 2015, 06:17:08 PM
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So the criminals turned out to be criminals. I for one am shocked.

Not fair. Some time ago, there used to be honour among thieves.  Wink

Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...
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March 22, 2015, 05:16:30 AM
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It is highly likely these forums are under LE control, exercise extreme caution if you are still using these sites
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March 22, 2015, 05:50:39 AM
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So the criminals turned out to be criminals. I for one am shocked.

Not fair. Some time ago, there used to be honour among thieves.  Wink

Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...

This wasn't a problem with hackers. It was the adminstration/escrow providers of Evolution who took off with the bitcoins.

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March 22, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
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This is worring... Here in Brazil it is not a crime to use drugs, its a crime just selling then... So, when I buy at a dark marketplace from a vendor outside my country, there is no crime at all...

Im new to dark marketplaces. Its better for me, cause I dont like to buy drugs in the places where they are sold in Brazil, wich are way worse then any drug selling place in world... (Rio de Janeiro lives in a "silent civil war")... And ppl that sell drugs in dark marketplaces use to create the substances in a home laboratory, or plant it, etc. What I mean is... Its a violence-less trafic, and I think it can weakens the traditional mafia in a long term, if ppl get massively to know about those markets... But, no one talks about this option of buying... Deepweb needs a better marketing (lol).

About the markets...

I used the one called Drug Market, wich doesnt seen to be so famous, (EDITED FROM HERE ON:) and i got f****** SCAMMMMED........... the site itself is a scam. Didnt realize not a single vendor answered anything, all the profile descriptions was linking to other market sites... But, as I am a begginer in this deep web world... I falled into the scam...
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March 22, 2015, 05:01:56 PM
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So the criminals turned out to be criminals. I for one am shocked.

Not fair. Some time ago, there used to be honour among thieves.  Wink

Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...

This wasn't a problem with hackers. It was the adminstration/escrow providers of Evolution who took off with the bitcoins.
it's not proved yet. The problem is always with either inside jobs (members of the exchange itself steal it) or they somehow get hacked by external agents. I think the inside job theory is always the more plausible one.


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March 22, 2015, 05:20:11 PM
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I'm surprised no one saw this coming. It was the perfect plan for the admins. The criminals can not report their losses to law enforcement or else they would get in trouble for selling drugs, and the admins are running a website for criminals.
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March 23, 2015, 12:05:00 AM
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When most people read recent news regarding this incident, they pitty the people that lost money, thinking how its the average buyers of somewhat illegal stuff,but not all that bad overall..
You're wrong; majority of funds were held by the sellers (dealers), since there was no need for regular folks to keep their money there. You come in , buy what u need and thats that, no need
to keep funds there and take the risk of loosing them.
Don't worry, people that lost their funds got enough left to take that blow, and im glad that marketplace got closed, it only brought bitcoin to media and public rage, same like silkroad did.

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March 23, 2015, 12:42:20 AM
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Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...
I don't see why not. Aren't most hackers Italian?
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March 23, 2015, 12:44:56 AM
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What about the reloaded version of silk road that was working on i2p? I remember people over at /r/darknetmarkets being too scared to even try it just because of it's name. Yet i2p is supposed to be safer to some extent.














 

 

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March 23, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
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This could be resolved with a multi sig wallet I would think. Hopefully someone with more technical knowledge of multi sig wallets can chime in on this. My rule of thumb is that if something requires you to trust someone with your currency don't do it. 
A few people have attempted to address your question, however have not done so to my satisfaction.

First of all true multisig would be somewhat difficult to implement because it would make it very difficult for many people to use because many people have the knowledge of bitcoin of a new; it would make it more difficult to obscure/tumble bitcoin while customers had their funds on 'deposit' at the sites (I know that SR1 did this for their customers, and would assume that other dark markets offered similar services); and probably most importantly it would make it a lot more difficult to collect whatever fee the market is charging for listing/selling products.

In addition to the above, it would probably create a number of instances where a lot of deals would end up taking place outside of the marketplace which would open the door for scams.

In order to describe how multisig works, you first need to know how a bitcoin address is calculated. In order to calculate a bitcoin address, you first need the private key, from the private key, you can easily calculate the public key, from the public key you can calculate the bitcoin address.

In order to calculate a multisig address, you will need to combine multiple public keys, as well as determine what "m" and "n" are when expressed as 'm of n', you would do this by having each party circulate a public key to a private key that they control. Once this is done, assuming that everything went smoothly, then the buyer and the seller can sign a tx giving all of the funds to the seller

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March 23, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
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Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...
I don't see why not. Aren't most hackers Italian?

Didn't know that, but that doesn't change anything. Very few Italians are part of organized crime.

So I guess this calls for legalizing drugs so that people won't get stolen anymore.
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March 23, 2015, 01:36:36 PM
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the deep web now it's more like a scam-fest of bitcoin than naything else, i'm not really surprised

Hackers have never pledged allegiance to the cosa nostra...
I don't see why not. Aren't most hackers Italian?

are you sure about this? i thought, many hacker come from russia
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March 23, 2015, 03:41:14 PM
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Bitcoin, like all cryptocurrencies, is only safe as long as people keep investing in it. Every lull in activity is an opportunity for someone to fork the chain. Because there are many cryptocurrencies, some will be more popular than others, leaving the less popular chains more vulnerable, and the value of their coins should go down, attracting traffic back to them, creating a lull in the more popular currencies.


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March 23, 2015, 04:28:26 PM
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This could be resolved with a multi sig wallet I would think. Hopefully someone with more technical knowledge of multi sig wallets can chime in on this. My rule of thumb is that if something requires you to trust someone with your currency don't do it. 
The marketplace offered multisig, but it's up to imbecile users to utilize it. Oddly enough, darknet market users tend to be risk takers and a bit lazy.

I suspect that they've been running a fractional reserve for months now, slowly cashing out coins.




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March 23, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
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Well, This is not new. We must be careful with our bitcoins, and not use this places like wallets, because risk is huge.

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