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I personally liked shoutboxes on forums I have been on, it's good for quick chat.
which could turn into a chat troll fest. I mean, knowing that there are people who come here just to troll, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. also, I agree with what Cookdata mentioned, scamemrs could use that to spam their scams or post malicious links on it.
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I've mentioned it as well on previous thread, and although it's an interesting concept that assists in asking direct questions and chats with other users, it could quickly turn into a spam box from newbie accounts. Is it necessary? Definitely not, would it be a nice addition? Perhaps, I can't say for sure, the antagonizing forum has one, but I personally don't see much benefit from it. I'm not a frequent visitor of that forum though, so I'm not the fit person to judge how it's performing there.
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So you also remember that such chatbox is excluded from none member view or if you're not in the current discussion you will miss something important, whilst this forum, informations that we share on each thread are visible to people and can be a reference point to many.
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I wouldn't want such an option because it would use excessive bandwidth on page that otherwise load quickly, and might even involve bringing in additional Cloudflare protections, thereby breaking the vast majority of scrapers.
Also there is the issue about malware being spread by newbies via links, but this can easily be circumvented by disallowing links and newbies from the chat.
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For this specific forum, I think it is probably not needed. There is already a lot going on, it seems pointless having adding a shoutbox for the purpose of engaging when members are already posting (thus engaging). What benefits do you think adding a shoutbox will bring to the forum? There is this one old age thread, which didn't have much discussion so here is quick refresh. What do y'all think? Is it doable? Does this forum needs it? I personally liked shoutboxes on forums I have been on, it's good for quick chat.
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What do y'all think? Is it doable?
Considering admin don't like to put too much limit, IMO it's not doable. I expect it'll be flooded with SEO spam or scam attempt, which makes it's not usable unless a moderator delete it within few minutes. Does this forum needs it?
Not really. IMO it's just something nice to have, if it's actively moderated with fairly strict limitation.
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Let's say we have the "shoutbox" and in a normal conversation in there someone ask a question that is basically supposed to be a thread and it's answered within the shoutbox, would there be need to have a thread? of course No! If question was possible to answer on shoutbox, it didn't need to have thread to begin with. I wouldn't want such an option because it would use excessive bandwidth on page that otherwise load quickly, and might even involve bringing in additional Cloudflare protections, thereby breaking the vast majority of scrapers. You could have link to shoutbox that redirects to new tab, so to the bitcointalk homepage would remain unaffected. ... What benefits do you think adding a shoutbox will bring to the forum?
Benefits? I don't know. I just meant it as place to chat.
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Let's say we have the "shoutbox" and in a normal conversation in there someone ask a question that is basically supposed to be a thread and it's answered within the shoutbox, would there be need to have a thread? of course No! If question was possible to answer on shoutbox, it didn't need to have thread to begin with. Besides, almost every word on the forum is "monetized". I say this ironically, but many will agree that the forum is a place where growth in rank and merits are important for new people. How will they get their merits? No way? Try starting a discussion in such a chat about the importance of holding bitcoin or, stupidly, about push-ups. You will not see a single piece of advice, since it is clear to everyone that all the time for posting in such topics is allocated for a quota or a search for merits. There will only be jokes in the chat, and even then, no one will waste time on sharp and good humor, since this also takes time.
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July 06, 2025, 11:01:50 AM |
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Nope.
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It's only a lot of extra work with no necessity or benefits for the forum as a whole. When you have a shoutbox/chatbox, you need people moderating the chat 24/7; otherwise, it will become a favourite place for scammers, spammers, and especially SEO spammers to keep sending their links and stuff. Even if there are certain restrictions and filters added to keep it as clean as possible, there will still be a need for a moderator to be present at all times to make sure there is no unusual behaviour in the chat.
Now, will people be willing to voluntarily take care of the chat in shifts to cover the 24-hour period? I don't think so, which means that the forum administration will need to pay and hire extra mods only to take care of the chat, something which isn't for the benefit of the forum itself, but only a place for people to chit-chat when they have extra time. Besides, it's a discussion forum, and we are supposed to have discussions in the form of threads and posts, and not to have a place to chat.
Things like these will affect the originality of this forum, imo. We can't do everything other forums do because other forums are replicas of this one, and they didn't have Satoshi in them, or all the other OGs who were the reason why this whole industry exists today. So, I think we should preserve the originality, while only adding things or making changes that make the forum a better place, and I'm saying this because I know we have seen a lot of changes, but they were all necessary for the forum.
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To my knowledge, I cannot recall this question being asked before therefore reading some of the replies has been interesting (as there is majority consensus against having a shoutbox). I reiterate my earlier view, there is far too much going on in the forum therefore there is no need to have a shoutbox.
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Unless there are other features that are in the shoutbox aside chatting, and these features are not found here in the forum, otherwise there is no need for the shoutbox or whatever it is called to be added to this forum. There is no point taking the traffic of the forum to another platform when this forum is in need of such traffic. We ain't teenagers here that are always looking for every chatting sites that's available out for them to create an account.
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Every forum must not have the same options available in them, secondly if an option could works smoothly in another forum while it might not work the same way in a different forum. Without the shoutbox on Bitcointalk, communication and discussion is still effective and there's really not going to be a big advantage of the shoutbox.
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