VOD- Here's a reply to your 'offer'

[Quickseller]

With these MSDN sellers (and the stolen Starbucks gift card sellers, and the amazon rebate services, and the ponzi operators, among others), their customers are getting a much better deal. Microsoft keys tend to cost hundreds of dollars while they are being sold on here for $10 or $15, that is in excess of 90% off. In other words in the event that these sellers follow through then they will get something they need for 90%+ off while if they are scammed then they only lose a small amount. They would need to get scammed at least 10 times before they would have been better off simply buying the keys directly from a retailer of directly from Microsoft. The risk/reward ratio is much better (although the chances of these people eventually scamming is much greater)

You missed those selling stolen netflix HBO and other accounts. That's is clear cut illegal. Credit card fraud it is. Also selling accounts, which you do is risky too and prone to scamming. You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

Well it is not 100% for sure known that the HBOgo (ect.) accounts are in fact stolen, although the chances of them being stolen are very high.

If you are saying that you are selling MSDN keys, then it is my understanding that you are essentially admitting that the keys are somewhat stolen.

What I mean is that if the stolen fraud activities aren't stopped why should my legit MSDN shop be affected?

The people who sell HBOGo (etc.) accounts are not admitting to selling carded accounts. You are admitting to selling keys that go against the TOS.

You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

I left negative feedback for an account that I sold that happened to be a scammer. In other words I left negative feedback for a scammer. I don't see how that could possibly be considered scamming. I did offer to have it be removed in the event that he repaid his victims, which he declined to do

Should you have like, umm, not fucking sold the account to that guy :#

The reason I found out he was a scammer was because he paid with a certain address, by the time he paid me it was too late

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[FuckIdolPlus]

With these MSDN sellers (and the stolen Starbucks gift card sellers, and the amazon rebate services, and the ponzi operators, among others), their customers are getting a much better deal. Microsoft keys tend to cost hundreds of dollars while they are being sold on here for $10 or $15, that is in excess of 90% off. In other words in the event that these sellers follow through then they will get something they need for 90%+ off while if they are scammed then they only lose a small amount. They would need to get scammed at least 10 times before they would have been better off simply buying the keys directly from a retailer of directly from Microsoft. The risk/reward ratio is much better (although the chances of these people eventually scamming is much greater)

You missed those selling stolen netflix HBO and other accounts. That's is clear cut illegal. Credit card fraud it is. Also selling accounts, which you do is risky too and prone to scamming. You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

Well it is not 100% for sure known that the HBOgo (ect.) accounts are in fact stolen, although the chances of them being stolen are very high.

If you are saying that you are selling MSDN keys, then it is my understanding that you are essentially admitting that the keys are somewhat stolen.

What I mean is that if the stolen fraud activities aren't stopped why should my legit MSDN shop be affected?

The people who sell HBOGo (etc.) accounts are not admitting to selling carded accounts. You are admitting to selling keys that go against the TOS.

You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

I left negative feedback for an account that I sold that happened to be a scammer. In other words I left negative feedback for a scammer. I don't see how that could possibly be considered scamming. I did offer to have it be removed in the event that he repaid his victims, which he declined to do

Should you have like, umm, not fucking sold the account to that guy :#

The reason I found out he was a scammer was because he paid with a certain address, by the time he paid me it was too late

HBO guys are clearly saying not to change the password, not to create new profiles, so just shut up if you don't know what you are saying.
Also you could have easily returned the money to the buyer, you in my eyes are the biggest scammer ever for that transaction.

[Quickseller]

With these MSDN sellers (and the stolen Starbucks gift card sellers, and the amazon rebate services, and the ponzi operators, among others), their customers are getting a much better deal. Microsoft keys tend to cost hundreds of dollars while they are being sold on here for $10 or $15, that is in excess of 90% off. In other words in the event that these sellers follow through then they will get something they need for 90%+ off while if they are scammed then they only lose a small amount. They would need to get scammed at least 10 times before they would have been better off simply buying the keys directly from a retailer of directly from Microsoft. The risk/reward ratio is much better (although the chances of these people eventually scamming is much greater)

You missed those selling stolen netflix HBO and other accounts. That's is clear cut illegal. Credit card fraud it is. Also selling accounts, which you do is risky too and prone to scamming. You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

Well it is not 100% for sure known that the HBOgo (ect.) accounts are in fact stolen, although the chances of them being stolen are very high.

If you are saying that you are selling MSDN keys, then it is my understanding that you are essentially admitting that the keys are somewhat stolen.

What I mean is that if the stolen fraud activities aren't stopped why should my legit MSDN shop be affected?

The people who sell HBOGo (etc.) accounts are not admitting to selling carded accounts. You are admitting to selling keys that go against the TOS.

You yourself left negative feedback to one of the accounts you sold, isn't that scamming mister?

I left negative feedback for an account that I sold that happened to be a scammer. In other words I left negative feedback for a scammer. I don't see how that could possibly be considered scamming. I did offer to have it be removed in the event that he repaid his victims, which he declined to do

Should you have like, umm, not fucking sold the account to that guy :#

The reason I found out he was a scammer was because he paid with a certain address, by the time he paid me it was too late

HBO guys are clearly saying not to change the password, not to create new profiles, so just shut up if you don't know what you are saying.
Also you could have easily returned the money to the buyer, you in my eyes are the biggest scammer ever for that transaction.

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[TECSHARE]

The people who sell HBOGo (etc.) accounts are not admitting to selling carded accounts. You are admitting to selling keys that go against the TOS.

Violating TOS is not a violation of criminal law.

[Quickseller]

What I mean is that if the stolen fraud activities aren't stopped why should my legit MSDN shop be affected?The people who sell HBOGo (etc.) accounts are not admitting to selling carded accounts. You are admitting to selling keys that go against the TOS.

Violating TOS is not a violation of criminal law.

That may be true, however my point is that there is a clear violation of *something* while the HBOGo accounts require some level of speculation before reaching the conclusion that something is being violated.

I would say that the negative trust would probably no be warranted if only the TOS is being broken and not the law.