Got Scammed by ripplecanavari of Turkish Local forum.

[oseikuf44]

TOPIC : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158448.0

AMOUNT SCAMMED: 1000 INF CREDIT ( WORTH: 700 USD)

LINK OF PAYMENT : https://imgur.com/a/cpav3oV

I opened the topic seeking for a loan of 700 USD and repay in 6 months installment from my monthly salary.
 I was admonished by members of this forum that without collateral I won't get any one to offer me so I should close the topic . I did close the topic forgetting of the loan. I then receive a message from the scammer( ripplecanavari) in the Turkish local forum of Bitcointalk that he can give me the loan.

 Here is his message: hey i can give you the loan message me on telegram @ rebelwampire

proof of his message in the link : https://imgur.com/a/eXEcFZV

The scammers profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501

He agreed to offer me the loan but I need some small collateral as a symbolism if 10$ or 20$, but I responded negative. I just told him I have Infinitus tokens listed on Coinmarketcap in my mobile app ready to be integrated to ERC 20 token so I will sell them, a Total of 1500 INF worth 900 USD.
 
I sen't him 147 Infinitus tokens first and he pretended he don't like it because it has no value in it and he claim is a scam coin. So he resend me back 137 which made me belief him as a trusted Bitcoiner.

The next day he pursued me to resend my whole 1500 INF ,( a coin he claim is a scam and has no value) then he can offer me the loan of 700 USD.

I was reluctant but one thing make me send is He is known in the Turkish community and my background check on him proofs he is running an online booking with the turkish phone number he is using  +905313887173

The scammer RIPPLECANAVARI known by Telegram name : Mr Wednesday , pursued me with an offer again to resend 1000 INF so he can send me the 700 USD and I resend the remainder 500 INF. After I send my 1000 INF credit to his account. He has refuse to respond to my messages.

I am hereby declaring  RIPPLECANAVARI ,member rank of bitcointalk community in the Turkish Local section as SCAMMER , FRAUDSTER AND UNRELIABLE. If he return my INF token, I will pull down this post and remove my RED TRUST.

After this post, I will forward a fraud claim against this Turkish number and all the screenshot and evidence to Turkish Police and Consulate in my country. And my last step,send this case to metaphysical realm by invoking my local diety on him to death.

SCREENSHOTS LINKS to our TELEGRAM and WHATSAPP message is attached to the link below.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Ovbms9W

[AB de Royse777]

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I did close the topic forgetting of the loan. I then receive a message from the scammer( ripplecanavari) in the Turkish local forum of Bitcointalk that he can give me the loan.

 Here is his message: hey i can give you the loan message me on telegram @ rebelwampire

proof of his message in the link : https://imgur.com/a/eXEcFZV

The scammers profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1569501

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Only a moderator can prove this PM. There could be another way, you can give the credential to any DT member to check the PM to see if the message indeed came from ripplecanavari.

By the way, you can create a flag for your case, I will support it. Seems like a legit case.

[Blacknavy]

I've argued with him many times before. Members of local section don’t believe that he is trustworthy. He made a statement at the our local section but he didn’t share any evidence about his claims.

Anyway, if he didn't give you your money back, you can create a Flag. Please inform us about this case.

[DarkStar_]

He asked me for a 0.07BTC no collateral loan on June 27th. Pretty unlikely that he'd go from suddenly needing ~$700 and then suddenly having $700 to lend out, so I've left a negative trust (for now anyway, will remove if he somehow proves that he's not a scammer).

Only a moderator can prove this PM. There could be another way, you can give the credential to any DT member to check the PM to see if the message indeed came from ripplecanavari.

That's definitely his Telegram handle, as seen here.

[AB de Royse777]

~snip~

That's definitely his Telegram handle, as seen here.

I was talking about this:

proof of his message in the link : https://imgur.com/a/eXEcFZV

In the image title it says,           "The Scammer first contact"




The embedded image:




Since it's a PM, my thinking was that if a DT can prove it then we can certainly say that the incident happened.

[Vispilio]

Since it's a PM, my thinking was that if a DT can prove it then we can certainly say that the incident happened.

ripplecanavari himself is already admitting he entered into the said dialogue with oseikuf44 here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161376.msg51699177#msg51699177

he is essentially saying in Turkish that the tokens sent to him through the phone app turned out to be worthless, so he sent the tokens back immediately as well as deleting the mobile app and cutting all communication, and oseikuf44 later even threatened him with voodoo magic ! However, ripple hasn't as of yet provided any evidence to support his defense.

ripplecanavari should show up here and submit the link of the transaction where he at least sent the tokens back; otherwise the neg trust rating seems fair in this case in light of the produced evidence so far...

[ekiller]

   Add flag,

And  @oseikuf44  please  provide all TXID  as text .   

[AlyattesLydia]

We expect both sides to provide more evidence.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

   Add flag,

And  @oseikuf44  please  provide all TXID  as text .    

Yeah, OP add a type 3 flag on his profile. I will support it.

[oseikuf44]

Since it's a PM, my thinking was that if a DT can prove it then we can certainly say that the incident happened.

ripplecanavari himself is already admitting he entered into the said dialogue with oseikuf44 here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161376.msg51699177#msg51699177

he is essentially saying in Turkish that the tokens sent to him through the phone app turned out to be worthless, so he sent the tokens back immediately as well as deleting the mobile app and cutting all communication, and oseikuf44 later even threatened him with voodoo magic ! However, ripple hasn't as of yet provided any evidence to support his defense.

ripplecanavari should show up here and submit the link of the transaction where he at least sent the tokens back; otherwise the neg trust rating seems fair in this case in light of the produced evidence so far...

It is now established fact that I had interactions with him based on his response in the TURKISH LOCAL . For more evidence that he said he resend back the tokens of 1000 INF and deleted the app, I want to challenge him to RE-DOWNLOAD THE APP. Before you can access the app, one need to register with an E-mail and password, which he did before I sent him the tokens. So if he has deleted the app, he can redownload the app, put in his email and password credentials, and go to transaction status. He can provide evidence of his TRANSACTIONS as screenshot here for anyone to verify if he truly resend the 1000 INF to anyone. He never did. I am done with all the steps I promised him and won't pursue him further. He should live in his own shadow of fear.

[oseikuf44]

   Add flag,

And  @oseikuf44  please  provide all TXID  as text .    

Yeah, OP add a type 3 flag on his profile. I will support it.

I have added a flag on his profile. Thank for the support sir. I believe this community should be made of trusted people that outsiders can feel save doing business with members here.

[oseikuf44]

We expect both sides to provide more evidence.

I have provided my evidence in the first post. LINK OF PAYMENT.  If you check the transactions,  I sent him 147 INF first and he told me is a scam coins so he want to send it back. He couldn't resend all the 147 due to zero balance policy , so I suggested he resend 137 INF and leave 10 as balance. All can be seen from the image. Then I resend 1000 INF when we agreed on a deal.

Check the last top 3 transactions and verify my claim.
https://imgur.com/a/cpav3oV

[DarkStar_]

I have added a flag on his profile. Thank for the support sir. I believe this community should be made of trusted people that outsiders can feel save doing business with members here.

Make a higher tier flag, either "This user violated a casual or implied agreement with me, resulting in damages." or "This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.".

[josephdd1]

Your coins are shit coins and worthless.

With that said, they are still your shit coins and what this stupid fellow did is scam no doubt. So I have supported the flag. I don't think you will get your coins back, but at least this will prevent him from scamming someone else like you again.

[ekiller]

  @oseikuf44

Can you explain? 1000 INF CREDIT  how could it be worth 700 USD  ?

is it token you send to ripplecanavari ?  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/infinitus-token/

if so  

Date you send token        Open price USD              High                     Low                 Close
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Jun 30, 2019                    0,408895                     0,420110            0,379833              0,380675   


Above price table taken from   from  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/infinitus-token/historical-data/


Besides you tell about send  (INF - INFINITUS)  token.
But your screen shot https://imgur.com/a/cpav3oV   about   (INFC).  


INF is  ERC20 token .

Official website : https://inftech.io/
Official explorer : https://etherscan.io/token/0x00e150d741eda1d49d341189cae4c08a73a49c95

Q : Can I transfer my INF Token to any Ethereum ERC20 Wallet?

A : Yes. INF Tokens are ERC20. They can be stored in any Ethereum ERC20 compatible wallet.


Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us  TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ?  Not photo, paste it as  text please.

[DarkStar_]

Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us  TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ?  Not photo, paste it as  text please.

Please do. I tried OCR for the first transaction in the screenshot but the result doesn't show up on an ETH explorer.

Code:

143302120190629274dac453094a54717968c2ef71a822cb1

[oseikuf44]

Well @oseikuf44 Please can you provide us  TXID link on "Official INF explorer" ?  Not photo, paste it as  text please.

Please do. I tried OCR for the first transaction in the screenshot but the result doesn't show up on an ETH explorer.

Code:

143302120190629274dac453094a54717968c2ef71a822cb1

INFC is an  off-chain, meaning it will encourage people to transfer freely without having to pay for gas or wait for the token to arrive when the network is congested and the transfer will be almost instantenously. The mobile App with Infinity's credit is NOT ERC token, according to the team the infinity's credit will be convertible to Infinitus Tokens( ERC token) after integration, which we are waiting for it to be implemented. At conversion, Infinitus credit is 1:1 ratio with Infinitus token (ERC).

[ripplecanavari]

I have not been active in the forum for about 1 week.

First of all, this person sent me an infc token(0 value scam shit) not inf token.

This person asked me for money, saying that he would send me an inf token and I accepted.

Price came quite affordable.But he asked me to download an application.So I downloaded the app.

He sent me 1000 infc credits.And he claimed that they had the same value as inf.

I did some research on the forum and the telegram, and I found that the token was scam, worthless.

I told this person. He did not accept. I deleted the worthless scam application and blocked the person.

And he threatened to kill me with voodoo magic.LOL

Then I saw this title and downloaded this scam worthless application again. Screenshots to share.

downloaded  again   https://imgur.com/yt5k99F

although I never touched the tokens that this person sent  but balance 0 looks   https://imgur.com/68al6Eb

This is proof I didn't touch the tokens he sent.(because this app and stupid project pure scam)       https://imgur.com/7ObZyOq

If you want additional screenshots on the subject, Just say it.I just downloaded it this is a useless cheat app  for this topic.

I didn't touch any tokens in it, but the balance looks 0. Also, I can't use the balance in it because it has no value.

Best regards.

[DarkStar_]

Report the death threat and he will be banned. According to the Infinitus website, conversion between the ERC token and the INF Credits is possible (or coming soon). From the FAQ:

You may convert INF Credits into INF Tokens (tradable digital asset). INF Tokens are traded on several major exchanges. INF Credits can be converted into INF Tokens conveniently in the INF mobile app.1 INF Credit = 1 INF Token.

While they may be currently 'worthless' (I'm unable to confirm if conversion is possible yet), you do owe him 1000 INFC that may be worth $253.6 USD based off of the current token exchange rate. It is your fault that you deleted the app without making proper backups and oseikuf44 is not responsible for your poorly thought out actions. You do owe him 1000 INFC, USD/BTC value irregardless. If the token really is worthless and will remain worthless, it shouldn't be that hard to pay some bagholder a small amount of USD for their worthless tokens.

Archive of ripplecanavari's reply.

[yahoo62278]

This pretty much comes down to a double scam honestly. The OP tried sending 1 kind of token and pass it off as another, while the receiver just took the token and disappeared. (Corrected by Darkstar_)

They both deserve a tag IMO and will receive 1 from me. Even if the situation is resolved I do not believe the tag on the OP should be removed as he is trying to deceive users when trading. Dishonest trading should be tagged period. (OP tag removed)

On a side note, If users would be smart and use escrow, we wouldn't be reading this thread. Although it cannot be enforced, escrow should be a must. Why risk 100s of dollars possibly when you can pay a .5%-3% fee and trade safely?