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November 04, 2022, 03:58:35 PM
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What happened:: I was looking for $65 in PP. User Extrarakeback contacted me on both here & telegram. for some problem he could not send the funds in PP and sent them as goods & services. I paid $55 and took the risk, at the end got scammed.  

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3495549

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418656.0
Amount Scammed: $55
Payment Method: USDT
Proof of Payment: https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/ab7307aab647b12d1bf19c157dacb8df38da4d7fb9916a680cfa5ef62535c3ef
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Additional Notes: FLAG > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3047

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November 04, 2022, 04:22:46 PM
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I really hate paypal for the exact same reason, you can easily get scammed in both ways if you are buying or selling and even if paypal has issued a refund for you or refused the case for the scammer you will be losing much time for that.
For your case now that person had the intention of scamming you in first place because he knows how paypal works. I hope paypal won’t issue him any refund and please try to add this topic to paypal as a proof since they started taking digital goods cases more seriously.

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November 04, 2022, 04:28:18 PM
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I really hate paypal for the exact same reason, you can easily get scammed in both ways if you are buying or selling and even if paypal has issued a refund for you or refused the case for the scammer you will be losing much time for that.
For your case now that person had the intention of scamming you in first place because he knows how paypal works. I hope paypal won’t issue him any refund and please try to add this topic to paypal as a proof since they started taking digital goods cases more seriously.

Thanks for your input, Yes I referred them to this post. I don't use PP much and was in need to pay someone for their services.

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November 04, 2022, 04:32:16 PM
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Since this has a name in the screenshots, you should move it to Investigations.

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November 04, 2022, 04:33:56 PM
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I have seen this person praying for a victim in the currency section for a while now.

Was just a matter of time and sorry it was you.

Hopefully paypal will decide for you but they often side with the scammer for some reason.

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November 04, 2022, 04:36:25 PM
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Since this has a name in the screenshots, you should move it to Investigations.

From the bitcointalk pm

Already paid you in Paypal . But youbseems offline in tg can you check

I have seen this person praying for a victim in the currency section for a while now.

Was just a matter of time and sorry it was you.

Hopefully paypal will decide for you but they often side with the scammer for some reason.

Yea after watching the replies, I thought I could trust with $55!

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November 04, 2022, 09:39:50 PM
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Yea after watching the replies, I thought I could trust with $55!
Scammers can be crafty. They will make you think they have genuine intentions here, and yet they don't. There was one serial scammer who was good at doing this, and one of his favorite boards was currency exchange.

He would go as far as exposing other scammers in order to gain merit and trust, only to end up scamming someone. He was also good at leaving retaliatory feedback from the many of his alts that kept getting busted. I won't be surprised if he's the same guy.

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November 04, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
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Huh, I am surprised to see an experienced member like you to fall for this type of scam, but at least it wasn't a big amount. By the way, you should avoid doing PP deals with people from Nigeria (well at least those without good reputation) as they can't use Friends and Family option when sending money.

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November 05, 2022, 09:02:00 AM
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Since this has a name in the screenshots, you should move it to Investigations.
Also an email address which is associated with paypal.

Hopefully paypal will decide for you but they often side with the scammer for some reason.
Paypal will see delivery tracking number. In this case there are no tracking number. It's gone out from Murat.

Sorry to hear the lose brother. I am going to leave a negative feedback and the flag will be supported.

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November 05, 2022, 11:37:45 AM
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Although fraud can happen to anyone, the mode used is very simple. can hardly believe the victim was an experienced member like the OP.
I know it's probably because the nominal isn't that big. hopefully, it will be a meaningful lesson, stay careful in transacting.

I will support the flag. and leave negative feedback.

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November 05, 2022, 03:46:20 PM
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This can happen even to an experienced member the guy has the intention to scam, its been a long time since I traded with Paypal but back then they don't allow trading with Cryptocurrency, they only accept valid products or services I don't know if there are changes of the policy if ever they will limit his Paypal because they are aware of how scammer works and not delivering
I think your screenshots are good since his name is in the screenshot and Google is only showing one Aikodon Francis his pic is on Google and traceable on Facebook he could be in trouble he should give your Paypal or this thread will become a reference to what endeavor he may have. Cheesy

Or if he is serious about scamming you its about time he deletes all his social presence.


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November 15, 2022, 12:24:09 PM
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UPDATE!

Payment returned!  Angry

But I found an alt of the scammer aew

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November 15, 2022, 12:44:14 PM
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User account @aew already has one negative rating from member butcherboss. Although there is no reference to support this claim.

butcherboss    2022-07-27        Made payment of $105 in usdt trc, in return for payment on fiverr. Went first, was scammed. DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM.
Payment was made to address provided by him
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Also, there is a possible merit abuse between @aew and @Extrarakeback:


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November 15, 2022, 02:50:09 PM
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Although there is no reference to support this claim.


Telegram matches ser & yes the Merit!

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UPDATE!

Payment returned!  Angry

But I found an alt of the scammer aew

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give us a complete update. was the money returned because of Extrarakeback's good will or due to PayPal's refund policy? there is a difference and possibly a condition for removing negative marks from his profile.
alt account is something different and not related to this case.

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Although there is no reference to support this claim.


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I would agree with examplens that more context is needed on the refund; whether it is due to paypal's policy or extrarakeback is finally fulfilling his part of the deal. And that the alt account is a completely different issue, perhaps an even different thread --or you can simpy just edit the title-- for an accusation of merit abuse, alt account --this one is actually not prohibited by the forum-- and fake credibiity.

With that said, and a fair warning that my post will borderline out of the original topic at hand, if I may add a little bit to the scale for the case of merit abuse and --as I said above-- fake credibility, I actually have took interest on his account for a while, since I stumbled upon his colorful reply on a neighboring scam accusation thread, where he gave a... rather incorrect statement that I've been itching to reply but decided against it because... well, the thread went to sleep after someone else told him that his smart ass reply is wrong.

But that's not before I looked into his merit history which instantly rang an alarm of abuse between him and aew because they gave each other a lot of merit. Which prompt me to rake --pun intended-- both of their post histories. Unfortunatelly, I can't find a strong evidence that tied them as one person at that time --it was around late October.

The closest was how aew choose a very similar name-style for his TG handler --extrarakeback himself changed tg handler several times throughout his "career"-- @eattheblock which funnily also used by a tagged account martinglecalculator. And such weak evidence linking both account is not good. Little did I know that after I stopped looking, the evidence came to myself as extrarakeback slipped.

That's for merit abuse and alt account. Now, for fake credibility, extrarakeback has a site of referral where he would share his earning from referrals back to the people who joined through his link --not sure if it's still running or not, I can never accessed his site no matter what browser I use-- guess what? Aew come to be the first who join and happen to give a good impression, which if they're indeed are the same person --and which the evidence so far strongly pointing that way-- is kinda a clever marketing... in a dirty way.

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aew986
I think you mean aew1986 right ?
Anyway bonus sent to aew1986 . Thank you.
My bad   . Thank you

Got my payment last Sunday thank you. Also joined Windice by your site



Thank you for the feedback. Confirmation email was sent about Windice

Can i ask early payment? My username at windice aew334
I wagered a lot but lost all
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Oh, extrarakeback also threw a generous wager competition, presumably to persuade people to bet more often and gave him more revenue from the referral, and how fortunate it is that only one participant joined the event:


And let's not leave this issue behind which will probably lead people to trust him and deal with him:

Again need 120$ paypal for 120$ btc
You still need ? Whats your telegram
every week need some. Today 250usd needed
Add tg https://t.me/Petshamrock

I sent 100usd   paypal friend and family waiting for 100usd  BTC
Edit : 100usd btc received thank u

So, to conclude, if extrarakeback and aew is the same person, then not only he's also martinglecalculator, he feigned a good credibility too by making his alt to had a successful trade with him and joined his rakeback program.

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November 16, 2022, 04:31:09 AM
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There is no info why it was refunded but the scammer reported the item not received! Tag the alts so he doesn't be able to scam another user. (which the scammer is trying ATM) Extrarakeback scammed me from the telegram account Aew now using. check the screenshot on the first post.


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