Yet another bitcointalk account seller

[Rikafip]

What happened: Throwaway account advertising selling high ranking acccounts. Prices are so low (from $100 for Full Member to only $350 for Legendary) that I am 100% sure that he has no accounts for sale at all and instead he is just trying to lure greedy and ignorant people into his little scam attempt.

Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3162

I am selling a few old BitcoinTalk accounts with a high rank, they are not in a signature campaign and I still post every now and then on them to keep them "active". Here are the prices:

Legendary: 350$ [1 in stock]
Hero: 200$ [1 in stock]
Senior: 150$ [3 in stock]
Full Member: 100$ [2 in stock]

https://ninjastic.space/post/62210956

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[shasan]

You are right that the person has no account to sell. It is just to scam people by the name of account sells. It is known to everybody that the price of the seller can be earned within a month by the signature campaign. If that person had any account to sell then s/he could offer a higher amount or work on a signature campaign or take a loan and default the loan. Legendary accounts can get a higher amount than the offered price.
Anyway, I have tagged and supported the flag.

[Wiwo]

This is just an exit scam waiting to happen to the account buyer, the seller does not have control of any of those accounts and once any gullible buyer makes payment the newbie seller will just pull an exit scam on the buyer.

Account buyers vs sellers are both at risk of being scammed depending on who makes the first move and in this case, the buyer will have a higher risk of losing both money and the account in the long run since the bought account can exist for a long before it is knocked out.

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Prices are so low (from $100 for Full Member to only $350 for Legendary) that I am 100% sure that he has no accounts for sale at all and instead he is just trying to lure greedy and ignorant people into his little scam attempt.

How do you know that the price is too low? Are you selling account too? Do not mind me, I am just kidding  . But actually we can not know if the price of Bitcointalk account is low or not if we are not selling, do not just judge.

What I know is that account sales can lead to scam. Also that an account may have problem that can make the account to be useless later. We should discourage account sales.

[Rikafip]

But actually we can not know if the price of Bitcointalk account is low or not if we are not selling, do not just judge.

Its common sense buddy, I also never sent money to those bitcoin doublers but I am sure that they are scam. Why would someone sell Legendary account for only $350 when it takes you at least two and a half years of hard grind to reach that rank and on top of that, you can make that money in 4 weeks of average signature campaign.

Rule of thumb: when an offer is too good to be true, that means its a scam.

[judeafante]

But actually we can not know if the price of Bitcointalk account is low or not if we are not selling, do not just judge.

Its common sense buddy, I also never sent money to those bitcoin doublers but I am sure that they are scam. Why would someone sell Legendary account for only $350 when it takes you at least two and a half years of hard grind to reach that rank and on top of that, you can make that money in 4 weeks of average signature campaign.

Rule of thumb: when an offer is too good to be true, that means its a scam.

Not only that the seller is not offering an escrow, but there are also a lot of risks in buying accounts, especially if the buyer and the seller come from different countries, we have a case here of one account on a signature campaign where he is suspected and proven because of his language history, and of course, posting style and habits can become evidence if there is a change of ownership through account selling.

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Not only that the seller is not offering an escrow, but there are also a lot of risks in buying accounts, especially if the buyer and the seller come from different countries, we have a case here of one account on a signature campaign where he is suspected and proven because of his language history, and of course, posting style and habits can become evidence if there is a change of ownership through account selling.

Escrow can help to some level, but a compromised account can also be escrowed. What if the account owner later know and come for his account with a signed bitcoin address. The buyer will only be at loss.

Even if the account seller is offering the account with high amount of money, it is something we should still always discourage.

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You are right that the person has no account to sell. It is just to scam people by the name of account sells. It is known to everybody that the price of the seller can be earned within a month by the signature campaign. If that person had any account to sell then s/he could offer a higher amount or work on a signature campaign or take a loan and default the loan. Legendary accounts can get a higher amount than the offered price.
Anyway, I have tagged and supported the flag.

This is the most common scenario with account sellers. I contacted one (I think you exposed him here) he sent me a screenshot of the account with a blurred username, I still managed to find that account after the registration time. Through further conversation, it turned out that he doesn't know anything about that account, not even in any campaign.
Unfortunately, that is not enough for any tag or any action against that account.

Resellers who offer several Hero or Legendary accounts are certainly not the original owners. These are either hacked accounts or fake offers without real access to these accounts.

[SatoPrincess]

But actually we can not know if the price of Bitcointalk account is low or not if we are not selling, do not just judge.

Its common sense buddy, I also never sent money to those bitcoin doublers but I am sure that they are scam. Why would someone sell Legendary account for only $350 when it takes you at least two and a half years of hard grind to reach that rank and on top of that, you can make that money in 4 weeks of average signature campaign.

Rule of thumb: when an offer is too good to be true, that means its a scam.

The fact remains that the seller is not the original owner of the accounts and is therefore selling an identity to the highest bidder. Even if the seller was genuine and had all the accounts under his control, I think the account would still get a negative tag as an account seller because selling/buying bitcointalk accounts is perceived to be an activity done by people with malicious intent.

There are two types of people who buy bitcointalk accounts; the first are those who concern themselves with joining signature campaigns; the second pose a serious risk to the forum and are those who buy high rank accounts to scam. One can imagine what could happen if a DT1 account is hacked and sold to a person with malicious intent.

[acroman08]

got curious and searched "@slezercc" and it looks like this is the second time he has created a thread selling accounts. the funny thing is he was selling only two accounts last month that he claims he "grew" himself and one has copper membership, but now he is selling 7 accounts from different ranks.  

using a throwaway account for obvious reasons, I am selling 2 accounts I grew myself, they both have around 50-80 merit each. Message me on Telegram to discuss price @slezercc. note: one of the accounts has a copper membership.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Prices are so low (from $100 for Full Member to only $350 for Legendary)
https://ninjastic.space/post/62210956

I never really had a good grasp of what the market for bitcointalk accounts was in terms of what rank goes for what amount, but if, say, the market was getting soft or if you had a member who just wanted to ditch the forum and get what they could for the account(s) they have, those dollar values don't seem to be dirt cheap IMO.  Does anyone have a sense of what a Legendary account would sell for these days?  I'm just curious.

This account mentioned in the OP is obviously just a throwaway one, and I think creating a flag against him is overkill.  Why?  Because even with a flag and red trust from the entire DT list, no account buyer would give it a second thought unless there was evidence that he'd scammed someone before--and even then it's a gamble.

Good looking out, OP.  I wouldn't waste time other than to give him a neg, but personally I appreciate you bringing idiots like this to the community's attention.

[Agbe]

This bullshit!! How and in which forum and board someone sells such prices for such accounts for his sweat. The breakdown of prices of the accountseller is not clear. Is it that the accounts were hacked or he bought them with a cheap fees and selling them to get small gain. I support OP Rikafip that the prices of those accounts are too low. It is obviously clear that he wanted to use that means to scam those who are eager to buy account. If anyone is buying account at anywhere please, don't pay before receiving it. Receive the account and check the trust system of the account before you pay. Red tag will do the good judgment to the account so that anyone who want to make any transaction with him will retrieve himself.

[shasan]

If anyone is buying account at anywhere please, don't pay before receiving it. Receive the account and check the trust system of the account before you pay. Red tag will do the good judgment to the account so that anyone who want to make any transaction with him will retrieve himself.

If the seller is legit yet no one should buy such an account as it can be restored by contacting support/posting on Meta by saying the account was hacked. The seller of the account or any member of the forum can expose the ownership change by email/password changing, writing style asking to verify the old wallet there is no information about any crypto wallet several/a lot of posts become deleted which can be previewed via ninjastic.space and so on.

[Rikafip]

I never really had a good grasp of what the market for bitcointalk accounts was in terms of what rank goes for what amount, but if, say, the market was getting soft or if you had a member who just wanted to ditch the forum and get what they could for the account(s) they have, those dollar values don't seem to be dirt cheap IMO.  Does anyone have a sense of what a Legendary account would sell for these days?  I'm just curious.

I never tried to buy/sell account and I doubt I ever saw a legit offer, but I do know how hard it is to reach Legendary rank from scratch, after merit system kicked in and for that reason it seems unbeliveable to me that someone would sell one for measly $350. And even if you have stock of old Legendary account, one look at Services board and all those open signature campaigns should make you realize that Legendary account is worth much more. I am also curious about the real price, but I doubt that anyone would sell Legendary account for less than $1k dollars given how easy it is to earn that amout of money via signature campaign.

I wouldn't waste time other than to give him a neg, but personally I appreciate you bringing idiots like this to the community's attention.

It was literally 1 min job to create this thread and make a flag as its not like I had to dig deep for evidence, I just shared his post and that's about it. And being flagged will make it more obvious to newbies to stay away from him as only those would fall for such offer.

[rby]

If that person had any account to sell then s/he could offer a higher amount or work on a signature campaign or take a loan and default the loan.

The person may have an account for sell but it would be some tagged accounts or ban evasion accounts. I really doubt the chances of people buying a genuine legendary accounts these days.
Then getting into a campaign as you advised, is not something that is easy for a shit poster who doesn't write in English.

Does anyone have a sense of what a Legendary account would sell for these days?  I'm just curious.

A tagged or flagged legendary account will cost even the $350 or below.
A good legendary account should cost above $500. Maybe between $600 to $800.
Then, a legendary account like yours will cost like $3000 to $5000. Are you thinking what I am thinking?

[hugeblack]

There are several hypotheses for the low price such as:

 - These accounts are hacked.
 - These are old accounts with zero merits.
 - These accounts contain a red flag or negative trust.
 - These accounts are spammmmy and fail to join any campaign.

With all these assumptions, the possibility that these accounts were created by the user and enables you to make any profits from it is small and therefore there is no economic benefit from purchasing them.

[CryptSafe]

How can someone just throw away such accounts at give away prices. It is either these accounts were hacked or otherwise if not what is the explanation for this activity or action. It is possible one wants to sell their account but not at this ridiculous peanut give away amount of a thing. This goes to tell you the motives behind this actions of theirs. 

One needs to ask themselves series of questions before engaging in such deal.
Why must this owner put up these  accounts for sale in  such price looking at the service board with lots of open spots. Would it not have been alright for the seller to engage these accounts  in the campaigns so as to benefit from the system.

Although it is not right and encouraging and I would advise anyone going for such deal should be cautious about it as these accounts might likely have gotten a tag or flag.  Do well to request first to have access so you could be able to analyze the account to see if there is anything wrong with the account.

[Pandu Geddon]

One needs to ask themselves series of questions before engaging in such deal.

those involved in trading account transactions are those who want to instantly get a high ranking on the forum. their target is to join the signature campaign. although I'm sure some campaign managers would not consider such an account.
it is clear that those involved are old members who may not be active anymore. or maybe hacking. from the seller's account, we can see that his telegram account was also used in similar activities before with other accounts. he could also have gone into hiding from his business to commit fraud against potential victims.

[Fiatless]

There are several hypotheses for the low price such as:

 - These accounts are hacked.
 - These are old accounts with zero merits.
 - These accounts contain a red flag or negative trust.
 - These accounts are spammmmy and fail to join any campaign.

With all these assumptions, the possibility that these accounts were created by the user and enables you to make any profits from it is small and therefore there is no economic benefit from purchasing them.

From what I have seen in the forum, the negative consequences of buying a forum account are huge. How will a novice buy an account that he cannot manage based on post quality? It will become clear that the account changed hands. I also think that most of these hacked accounts that are placed for sale have been abandoned by the owners. This is because the real owners should have reported the hack or when they observe that the account is now under another person's control. I will not even buy an account even if it is cheaper than what the seller is proposing because it is like buying stolen car. One can never be comfortable driving it.

[JollyGood]

The seller mentioned by the OP stated his prices but does anybody know what these ranking accounts are being sold for by other sellers on Telegram?

Considering any accounts for sale will ultimately be used either for nefarious purposes or specifically to join signature campaigns, the question arises: why sell these accounts when you can make a lot of money yourself by joining various campaigns?

By claiming to have an account does not mean they actually do. Maybe it is another way to simply scam by taking money from buyers and then not delivering the account because they simply do not have it.

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Your account has rightly been tagged (whether it is a throwaway or not) because accounts sellers and not looked upon positively in the forum. Also there is no way of even knowing if the buyer will ever get to use any of the alleged accounts you claim to have. They do not know whether you will take the money and run because you might really have zero accounts.

I am selling a few old BitcoinTalk accounts with a high rank, they are not in a signature campaign and I still post every now and then on them to keep them "active". Here are the prices:

Legendary: 350$ [1 in stock]
Hero: 200$ [1 in stock]
Senior: 150$ [3 in stock]
Full Member: 100$ [2 in stock]

Note: I am using a throwaway account for obvious reasons & prices are in $USD.
Message me on Telegram to purchase: https://t.me/slezercc