Need to adjust my trust list

[Vod]

Hi all,

I've been away from the forum for a couple years, and I understand several people I trusted turned out to be scammers.  I don't have any details, so if anyone notices anyone on my trust list that should not be there, please let me know.

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[ineedhelpplease]

Hi all,

I've been away from the forum for a couple years, and I understand several people I trusted turned out to be scammers.  I don't have any details, so if anyone notices anyone on my trust list that should not be there, please let me know.

Where exactly do you see a users trust list? From recent news Ratimov/Symmetrick seems to be very untrustworthy since people claimed the owner sold his account. If he is there then he should be removed for now.

[Despairo]

Based on your current trust list the obvious scammer is only SiNeReiNZzz as he was defaulting a loan.

You just need to pay attention with user who received negative feedback because account with negative feedback is a scammer, although there are some users leaving negative feedback because of personal conflict *cough.

Where exactly do you see a users trust list? From recent news Ratimov/Symmetrick seems to be very untrustworthy since people claimed the owner sold his account. If he is there then he should be removed for now.

He didn't include Ratimov.

[ineedhelpplease]

Based on your current trust list the obvious scammer is only SiNeReiNZzz as he was defaulting a loan.

You just need to pay attention with user who received negative feedback because account with negative feedback is a scammer, although there are some users leaving negative feedback because of personal conflict *cough.

Where exactly do you see a users trust list? From recent news Ratimov/Symmetrick seems to be very untrustworthy since people claimed the owner sold his account. If he is there then he should be removed for now.

He didn't include Ratimov.

I see, thank you. I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

And how exactly are you going to do that, considering that your account was created less than 2 months ago? Perhaps you already read all forum thus you know who is scammer and who isn't? And ypu also know very well when a red tag was given incorrectly, thus it is irellevant and when it was deserved?

I am all ears to hear about your vast expertise earned in such a short amount of time.

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

[Timelord2067]

Speaking of me, the trust is for a person's evaluation of their trust feedback - not for personal vendettas.

I'm sure LoyceV will be along shortly to remind you all of that.

[icopress]

Speaking of me, the trust is for a person's evaluation of their trust feedback - not for personal vendettas.

You are probably the most controversial person here on the forum...lol.

[Vod]

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

Despairo coughed, you quoted ineedhelpplease.   

[digaran]

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

Despairo coughed, you quoted ineedhelpplease.   

Lol.
I can see you have the most legit DT member on your list, you know the one who'd always start a feedback with "BEWARE", anyone having such tags is %100 a scammer 🤥🤥🤥, my nose is annoying me sometimes.😅

[nutildah]

I see, thank you. I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

I wouldn't bother as there's no way you could possibly be able to do this if the story you provided in the other thread was true. Its unwise for a new member to dive straight into reputational matters on the forum. There's a lot of nuances of which you are unaware. Plus it makes you seem like you're not actually a new member.

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

Maybe its tuberculosis, they should probably get tested.

[ineedhelpplease]

I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

And how exactly are you going to do that, considering that your account was created less than 2 months ago? Perhaps you already read all forum thus you know who is scammer and who isn't? And ypu also know very well when a red tag was given incorrectly, thus it is irellevant and when it was deserved?

I am all ears to hear about your vast expertise earned in such a short amount of time.

P.S.: try to take some syrup for that cough, it's not a good sign. I remember that TimeLord also coughs very often.

You present a good point. That's what I quickly realized when I started this. 78 different users is way too much, especially for a new user. I also realized it was quite late so I went to bed soon after I posted that. I had a much longer post originally, detailing how exactly I would at least try to investigate users and who would specifically be investigated but stopped because I think my mental health matters more (I can dm you what I had so far if you want I don't think it really matters though)

I've spent the past 10 hours worrying about all this and it's quite stressing simply due to time spent. I've learned alot about why Vod chose many of these users on his trust list though and came across some really good investigation tactics on how users found cheaters as well as hilarious people, etc.

So far this is the most suspicious account I've seen throughout the 78 users on his list.

The account "Legendster"

The original owner isn't a scammer, fraud or anything suspicious but the original owner has been inactive since late 2019(verified by himself here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359778.msg57932688#msg57932688)

Vod quit somewhere in like, mid 2021. This event all took place during Late 2021, after he quit. During late 2021, the Legendster account was compromised, which he confirmed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359778)

Since he isn't hacked (anymore for now) he can stay on his list. Seeing that the original owner quit in late 2019 and hasn't made a real return ever since then, It's best to assume that if If this account ever becomes active and does any suspicious activity such as asking for non-collateral loans then I recommend trying to prove that it's actually the OG owner using one of the old addresses as shown by the post made by examplens (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359778.msg57931591#msg57931591).

[Helena Yu]

It's best to assume that if If this account ever becomes active and does any suspicious activity such as asking for non-collateral loans then I recommend trying to prove that it's actually the OG owner

His account was been locked, so it's best to assume the account is inactive forever. Now if Vod think Legendster wasn't leaving inappropriate feedback, Vod doesn't have to remove him since inactive account that leaving appropriate feedback is good for the forum.

After a few days of checking every foreseeable aspect of this case (email, private keys, synced browser passwords, secret questions and what not, seem to have been compromised at some point), we've come to the conclusion that the hacking extent is way to big to determine the ownership correctly so it will be better if the account remains locked indefinitely.

[ineedhelpplease]

It's best to assume that if If this account ever becomes active and does any suspicious activity such as asking for non-collateral loans then I recommend trying to prove that it's actually the OG owner

His account was been locked, so it's best to assume the account is inactive forever. Now if Vod think Legendster wasn't leaving inappropriate feedback, Vod doesn't have to remove him since inactive account that leaving appropriate feedback is good for the forum.

After a few days of checking every foreseeable aspect of this case (email, private keys, synced browser passwords, secret questions and what not, seem to have been compromised at some point), we've come to the conclusion that the hacking extent is way to big to determine the ownership correctly so it will be better if the account remains locked indefinitely.

That's good to note, thank you for pointing that out. It's a shame that he won't ever get his account back. I thought he just reclaimed ownership and went back to being inactive until this was posted.

I also came across several other inactive users on Vod's trust list, who weren't compromised or anything but were inactive for an extended period of time(like 2-5 years)so I had them noted in what I wrote to verify ownership if they ever came back actively and behaved suspiciously.

[GazetaBitcoin]

You present a good point. That's what I quickly realized when I started this.

Oh really! Is that your new approach for trying to prove you are new here?

I had a much longer post originally, detailing how exactly I would at least try to investigate users and who would specifically be investigated but stopped because I think my mental health matters more (I can dm you what I had so far if you want I don't think it really matters though)

I highly doubt that an investigation on 78 users made by someone which joined the forum less than 2 months ago -- if you are really new here -- would be useful. And I'd really not care to read such an investigation done by someone which only pretends to be new, for who knows what reasons he has.

I've spent the past 10 hours worrying about all this and it's quite stressing simply due to time spent.

Oh, such dedication... Perhaps it would be better just to follow nutildah's advice?

Its unwise for a new member to dive straight into reputational matters on the forum. There's a lot of nuances of which you are unaware.

Since he isn't hacked (anymore for now) he can stay on his list.

Oh you care so much for Vod's Trust list! This is really touching.

Maybe its tuberculosis, they should probably get tested.

LOL!

[ineedhelpplease]

You present a good point. That's what I quickly realized when I started this.

Oh really! Is that your new approach for trying to prove you are new here?

I had a much longer post originally, detailing how exactly I would at least try to investigate users and who would specifically be investigated but stopped because I think my mental health matters more (I can dm you what I had so far if you want I don't think it really matters though)

I highly doubt that an investigation on 78 users made by someone which joined the forum less than 2 months ago -- if you are really new here -- would be useful. And I'd really not care to read such an investigation done by someone which only pretends to be new, for who knows what reasons he has.

I've spent the past 10 hours worrying about all this and it's quite stressing simply due to time spent.

Oh, such dedication... Perhaps it would be better just to follow nutildah's advice?

Its unwise for a new member to dive straight into reputational matters on the forum. There's a lot of nuances of which you are unaware.

Since he isn't hacked (anymore for now) he can stay on his list.

Oh you care so much for Vod's Trust list! This is really touching.

No need to be disrespectful about it i'll just PM you what I had which wasn't super useful at the end of the day but was still alot. I only cared because I agreed to it, so I wanted to finish what I agreed to starting. Trying was better than nothing for me and I still learned alot regardless. Obviously I'm no expert and I'm sure most of this forum is better anyways. It was fun at first but got tiring as time went on and I have a life

At the end of the day if you think I'm not new then okay. You can thank Rollbit Razer for making me lose thousands of dollars which lead me to search "rollbit bad reviews" or similar search terms which brought me here.

[GazetaBitcoin]

My eyes are bleeding when I see enormous quotes with no use. No matter if you are a newbie or not, would you just read this topic? TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

And also delete the immense quote from your above post (or keep only what's relevant to be quoted). Seriously, don't your eyes hurt you when you watch that monstrosity?

At the end of the day if you think I'm not new then okay. You can thank Rollbit Razer for making me lose thousands of dollars which lead me to search "rollbit bad reviews" or similar search terms which brought me here.

And from there you jumped directly into the Reputation board and you started to sort things out for all forum / user issues, right? That's so sweet of you! Perhaps you will be nominated Newbie of the year, just like Ratimov? Look, I am sorry for your loss, but all these actions you make -- especially inside Reputation board and towards issues you should not be aware of even in 6 months from now on¹⁾ -- only make you look shady. And I see you insist on it. The more you insist the more shady you will look like.

¹⁾And by that I did not mean that you don't deserve to be aware of, but the fact that's simply too much information for someone new to be able to comprehend even in six months, not to mention only since end of October and until present. I'm reading even now, years later after I joined the forum, about issues from the past which I am not aware of. Instead, you act like you were here since forever and you know everything about all possible subjects / disputes / issues / dramas etc. Like you know everything about anything.

[ineedhelpplease]

Best to argue in PMs if you want to go any further since I've sent you the message of what I had written already. Or make a separate thread so it doesn't argue all over this thread and just link this one in your new thread (which I don't want to spend all night responding to as its 1:39 AM my time so please don't.)

My eyes are bleeding when I see enormous quotes with no use. No matter if you are a newbie or not, would you just read this topic? TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

And also delete the immense quote from your above post (or keep only what's relevant to be quoted). Seriously, don't your eyes hurt you when you watch that monstrosity?

And okay, I will read it when I have the energy to, probably tomorrow.

[Vod]

This has gone off topic; I don't want to lock the thread.

[examplens]

This has gone off topic; I don't want to lock the thread.

You asked the other members to help you edit your trust list. I would say that the trust list is quite a personal matter and should depend exclusively on your judgment about other members. It can help you if someone points out a certain user and his possible "sins", but the final assessment is still up to you.
In the end, you'll have to do it yourself, checking one by one off your list.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'll get to investigating and see if there are any other untrustworthy or suspicious users.

And how exactly are you going to do that, considering that your account was created less than 2 months ago? Perhaps you already read all forum thus you know who is scammer and who isn't?

Lol, I saw that post and it brought me back to the pre-merit system era when you'd see idiotic things being written just like that, except that ineedhelpplease isn't in a campaign or bounty.  Guess he's just trying to boost his post count or something.  See, Vod?  Some things just never change around here.

Thankfully since you've been away, there haven't been too many reputable members who've turned into scammers.  I can't recall usernames, but there was that charity scam a while back, the Coldkey scam in the Collectibles section, and maybe a couple of others.  I'm sure that doesn't help, but I thought I'd just mention it if anyone remembers the details/names.