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my bets are starting trades >500 sats...  8)

Let's start speculation here.

All XEM owners: Are you planning to sell some XEM of yours?

How much?
Starting what price?

I plan to keep, and experiment with 10%. ;)

I'm thinking ~$10m market cap initially, perhaps falling to $5m but I don't see it going much more below that. After that, the sky's the limit really. Absolute worst case scenario we see a market cap between $1m and $2m temporarily, but no way we are going below $1m market cap unless there is a catastrophic failure.

Not planning on selling ANY of mine, however.

hah...

Seems Speculation Bets are going to be here soon! ;D

It's going to be fascinating for sure. I can't think of any coin with such a thorough lead up and relentless murder of sock puppets.

a pump on all the usual shitcoin hype, then crash and die  :o then the blame game.

you need to do a little reading into nem if you think thats going to happen... :D

funnily enough been reading the shit since the start........didn't claim after my inbox was constantly spammed by the devs offering me the trash.


again u guys gonna flood this forum with spam, then it'll be pumped til people get sick of it, move to the next hyped shitcoin..............repeat

You didn't claim a stake worth $500-2,000? That's just dumb on your part, no matter how you feel about the coin.

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Anyways, my vote is around 500 satoshis.

I envy your free time.

I still remember when you were one of fuserleer's boys, you wrote NXT off. You were around commenting in the original NXT thread before the IPO closed. You also criticised NXT as a bad investment many times on the emunie forum. You were wrong and lost an opportunity to make literally millions from ~100 USD investment. Your opinions on crypto potential are usually wrong.

NEM isn't a bubble, because of it has much exercise in the past year.

Zero.  Communism always fails.

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Let's try Resource Based Economy then! ;)

Also a failure in research, science and tech field is, More research and trials are needed. :)

That also applies to regular life too, but peeps don't get it. ;)

Been following from the beginning. I plan to cash out about a 30% into btc at around 10MM market cap. The other 30% ill cash out within a year or two if things go well, and the rest I hold long term.

i'm not in crypto for the fiat  :o

I figure people paid about 2btc on nxtAE so marketcap should be what 2million? or like 100 satoshi.

dunno China seems to be doing pretty OK   8)

fiat can buy crypto.

What exchanges will be trading NEM?

cryptsy?
bittrex?
fakescamexchange.ru?

more like poloniex and bter

if your not in it for the fiat, why wouldnt you be in it for the crypto. it literally would have taken near zero effort. like 1 reply. if you spent the time to read the 700 pages, theres no way you couldnt take the time. you also know ther were worth 15-40k NXT. Im sure if you felt harassed you could have asked to be removed from the mail list. and you act like its bad that a coin will have people talking about it. nem has 1 announce thread and 1 discussion thread (being this one) shitcoins have 20 threads around here open yours eyes man and get off the high horse.

Little correction: I sold NEMStake for 99000 NXT in last hours. It was 0.1 NEMStake = 9000+

Ok. 500 - 700 sat start price and 6th market place.

Pump pump up to 5000 sat and 3rd market place with marketcap 450 k btc :)

We waiting 1 year 2 months 1 week and 6 days. We deserved high starting and high market price of NEM.

108MM $USD market cap.

seems reasonable.

Possible, but i dont have that high expectations at this point. but who knows the hype could take over.

can't say i've ever exchanged fiat for crypto or crypto for fiat myself.
having been around cryptos a long time, can't say i'm lacking in crypto holding department.

lol price and worth are too different things, not interested in nxt crap either....anything along the nxt clone line is worthless crap same as nxt

as for thread counts...yes just getting in early a NEM spam is on the increase n we can see where tis going.

I love reading your posts lol ... your ego has cost you so much value (crypto and/or fiat). Who cares how old your 'kelsey' account is, you've made some really bad investment decisions that cost you huge amounts of value that you could exchange into anything you chose. You're doing it again with NEM. Are you really a pro at this stuff?

not driven by profits and because of that I'm doing very ok in crypto holdings.

Communism (no markets) almost never existed in pure form. It's predicator to more complex economic relationships like wild capitalism (absolutely free markets), forms of socialism (contorlled markets in some economy branches) and healthy capitalism (mostly free markets with reasonable control).

Aside of that NEM'll arise as pretty egalitarian coin

Can I ask what is your motivation if it's not profits? I am a believer in the cause of decentralisation including money and finances, and with that in mind I think NXT is a stand out, and NEM probably will be also. PoS is superior to PoW, so it's a no-brainer. Both have very committed communities.

What do litecoin & coffeecoin have that could possibly be worth supporting more than NXT or NEM, on purely self interest profit motive, or some higher ideal?

I think some people who were on this forum in 2011/2012 are angry that the best devs & coins came after they arrived, so their once exclusive position is gone. By far the most intelligent comments on this forum come from people who signed up in mid 2013 onwards.

I think 400-500 satoshis each XEM

ok atleast an intelligent line of questioning.

my motivation is for the development of a useable real alt currency to the bank controlled fiat. i've always said the only decent thing to come out of crypto so far is the idea.

why?
well i earn a very decent living, many of my income sources are international. i'm very much a law abiding citizen, but i am finding i'm increasingly being treated like a criminal by various gov explaining what is legally obtained fiat, in my own country (as a registered sophisticated investor) i'm a compulsory audit :(
other countries I work in i'm treated like a criminal trying to get my own legally earned money out of the country.

all these new anti laundry laws make life hard for many law abiding decent earners.

so yeah thats my crytpo motivation.

and to be honest my lack of transfering crypto to fiat is because of the extra audit headaches it would cause....(but it helps portray a holier the thou image ;) )

i'm not at all angry new coins have arrived, more frustrated with the amount of shitcoins for pump profit that arrived, and on the opposite side the default belief if its not bitcoin code its an innovative step in the right direction.

i see the opposite to you, i believe the IQ of this place is inversely proportional to the price of btc v USD.

Wow- it's been a while since I've been on this forum (had to take a break due to real-life events). Can someone update me on what's going on with NEM? I paid for one share when this was first starting up (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg4925868#msg4925868) and mostly forgot about it. How do I claim my share?

Redemption has ended. You have lost your stake

(go interrupted by real world work before finished answering earlier).

Litecoin for many reasons imeo is the best crypto todate, not perfect but the best we have to work with, there's real reasons its maintained number 1 alt for so long.
One of the few where the founder wasn't motivated by fiat, examined where all previous alts had failed and successfully created one that avoided previous faults.

Coffeecoin, well its crappier then crap, however I have a few business dealings in the coffee industry and was looking to create my own coffeecoin, could work in extremely well with fair trade initiatives.
a coffeecoin was created before I got mine up so I thought I could go with it........anyway not what i'd hoped so i left when others had their own plans for it (wanted to keep it as another shitcoin and wouldn't go along with a bigger more useful plan, which left me dumbfounded but what can u do).

I seriously expect it to be in the top 10 on cmc and maybe even higher than some others might think.

If he's not a sock puppet and still has a token there is a chance for late redemption. That will be announced after launch.

2500 sats within a month.

IMHO one XEM will be at least the worth of one NXT.

So, NXT has a current worth of about 4300 sat. This means the worth of XEM will be around 500 sat.

At least XEM will be somewhere between Qora and NXT positions. Similar distribution scheme, same functionality. One plus, there is no whales, but dolphins.

Do I smell another NEMbet?

I forget, 50k?

Aw, come on. You gotta go double or nothing!  :P

What if it touches 700 sats but then recovers at around 300?
Do you check the final price or daily high?

Initial price can be goosed as volumes slowly migrate to exchanges.  Best bet is after 24 hours.  ;)

Will sock stakes still be used to reward harvesters?

We will be close 1000 satoshis  I guess

If I remember rightly 10% of the sock stakes go towards harvesters which should last for several years. I could be totally wrong though.

Interested to hear this also

also, multisig accounts will have no problems harvesting, will they? 

Alright so this will be for 50k NEM, right?

I'm fine with the bet, with this condition: often when a coin is first listed, unreasonably high bids are placed before any coins actually arrive on the exchange. This can cause the opening print to be, well, ridiculous.

For you to win the bet, it needs to *trade* above 500 sats. Is a 15 minute period acceptable to you (at or above 500)? I won't nitpick on the timeframe; I'm mostly interested in not losing due to initial print.

 :o People dumping like crazy, they gonna regret it later on.

haha.... I'm waiting there to grab cheap NXTs!!.... :D
And cheap NEMs too.... :D

Uhhh...if you don't mind me asking, what's a "registered sophisticated investor" in your country? I've bumped into rules like that myself, and had fun once when I managed to wiggle around them. ;)

With regard to myself and crypto, I was floored by the fact that the exchanges offer trade and orderbook data for free. That's nothing like the stock market, wherein a live feed of all trades costs thousands per month - and raw data for each month costs thousands too. (Strangely, the cheapest data pack per month comes with U.S. options trades - even though the bid, ask and trades package takes up so much space they sell it to you in a single 500-gig hard drive!)

Since this kind of, er, premium-pricing is what I was used to, I was floored when I found I could download an exchange entire record of Bitcoin trading for free!

Not long enough for me...damn. Was 72-79 satoshis when I saw it; now 139.

I bought some coins on Poloniex. The price is ridiculously cheap, people don't realize that this a serious project of months and months of work.

I feel a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge pump here the next days ....

As I predicted, lol. They managed to get it up to 10k sats. 2:30 left to go, though I'm not sure if the bet is on or not...

What's the difference between Local Harvesting and Delegated Harvesting?

Hi! See here => http://blog.nem.io/how-to-use-delegated-harvesting/

Lol. 9 bilions coins for 140sat. It's very very expensive guys. Waiting for 10sat price next month

It's selling at around $1,000 a stake. Not that different to the $700/stake it was selling for on the NXTAE.

It was over $2,000 per stake last summer.

Btc was also more than double last summer ;-)

sorry! i was busy trying to get my nodes up before launch! well, depending on the terms, either of us could have won and i owe you already so lets just assume it wasnt on.. lol  :D 

ps. send me your address. :)

Very fair. :)


Thanks for playing!

no problem. a bet is a bet. not the type to scounder off with the money lol

Payment for the first NEMbet has been settled!

That was dumb imho.  The first trades won't be near market.  24 hours after introduction should give a somewhat clear picture of market-perceived value.

So far today, overall a good launch. Can't wait till the other exchanges open up their markets for XEM.

network is perfectly stable too.. i thought maybe the huge influx of users might cause some issues but apparently not :D

Wow that great news. "Build it and they will come."   :)

I think 1 XEM will be over 1000 Satoshi at some point

Does that number factor in the Nazis killed by Russian Communists in WWII to indirectly save the Allies' butts? Because Canada is building a monument to honour those dead Nazis along with the other victims.

Sorry, this may be spectacularly off topic, but NEM isn't "communism".

Been running the new NEM client, stand-alone this time instead of web installer, and it's been working fine for hours.

I think in a week NEM will stabilize for a little while, then shoot up in a month or two. Just guessing.

Would distribution = Long-term value increase?

If true, that would mean initial big sell-offs is good.

Lets wait and see.currently it aint pretty, selling all time low.

Less "whales" are good. bigger sell-offs means a better distribution. The wealth of whales is being dumped into more people hands. I think this is healthy for NEM Economy. Dare I say, furthering egalitarianism. interesting...huh.

From where do you know that sell-offs will lead to a better distribution. When one user buys the stake of a whale you have still one person who holds the same amount of coins.

Waiting for Bitrex and other exchanges.  8)

There are 97 million available for sale on Poloniex already. Not exactly a rare coin now.

About 43 stakes in sale, so not that much.

most people are holding...  There is no much new blood on BTT since depression and also cryptos arent precieved as good investment right now by wide public... people here, are hardcore cryptoheads and they got their NEM already.

In given circumastances NEM is doing well, I think.

And other exchanges have not added NEM yet. After one week the situation will be different.

Remember the good ole days of 1600% increases in alt-crypto when BTC was booming? Miss those times.

Of 8,999,999,999. I'd say that's pretty rare.

To receive the good price it is necessary to sell NEM for Fiat. People more willingly spend Fiat than BTC.

We need Fiat gateways!

That's barely 1% for sale on the sell order book. The other 99% are holding.

And:
--Market cap is already in the top 20, just a few slots from Counterparty
--24 hour Volume/liquidity are already in top 10 (above Dogecoin, NXT, Shadowcash).
--Whitepaper on the POI innovation isn't even out yet
--News on direct fiat gateways are imminent (btc middlemen need not apply)
--it's only on one exchange, with more slated, including btc38 in China...
--biggest single post-launch 5-minute dump on the chart so far has been for only 16 BTC, and it's stabilising/rising now.

So far, NEM seems to be living up to its brand advertising: No one has a big chunk to megadump, making this coin megadump-resistant.

All that, and it's just Day 1.

I thought it will start @ ¨500 satoshis levels and decrease by time to 250 satoshis. I decreased to 80ish satoshi level.

But rather than selling Im a buyer below 100 satoshis and already bought 2 million. Even if you dont find this coin so cool , -I believe- there is not too much risk @ buyin this price band. And Im nearly certain about not more than 1 month we will 250 satoshis.

Not an investment advice. Make your own decision.

1 NEM stake = how much XEM?

2,250,000

Oh that's not too bad then. I was looking at Poloniex and I thought with a bit of a sell off one stake would be worth a lot less now but that's still a pretty decent chunk of money.

yeah its impressive that the market has bounced back so well from 2 big dumps.. just hit 300 312btc volume too. investor interest is certainly strong. a lot of people will be delighted getting something of real value for a forum post and trivial payment for registration :D

How about a NEMstake reward for the number of original stakeholders who never sell the smallest decimal exactly 1 year from now  :D

Meh, so you had a successful launch...
And your value is down about 10% from where it traded on NXT AE ($3,000,000 cap).

Not much you can do on NEM, is there...
And any plans for exchanges/markets are discussion stage ONLY.

https://forum.ournem.com/general-discussion/decentralized-market-based-on-nem-platform/

You're just fighting over the 50,000 hardcore crypto junkies...
NEM with its NIS, NCC, delegated harvesting, secret POI formula, etc = techie jargon...
And 64 bit desktop Java requirements NEM was not exactly designed by Apple for real people.

Personally, I want NEM to succeed because it directly helps NXT... maybe you pull a rabbit out of the hat.

But you will always be one year behind NXT and it's gonna be a long, hard slog under 100 sats...
Unless you guys can get existing Dark Net businesses to move to NEM (which NXT has failed to do).

If I recall correctly NXT was down towards the bottom of the barrel on Marketcap its first couple days after launch.

This "coin" (if you can even call it that) is a ridiculous money grab by a bunch of liars, cheaters and thieves.  I feel sorry for the people who buy into this joke.  PoI is fundamentally flawed because there is no way to prevent network topology loops.

Were your sock puppets shitcanned?  :D

No.  I'm not a liar like the rest of these cheaters and I only claimed ONE STAKE.  I can guarantee you the only sockpuppets that were "canned" were ones that weren't controlled by UtopianFuture and the devs.

Yes that's what collecting a NEM stake is 100% about  ;)

Remember only 1,600 ish stakes are issued the rest are tied up in development funds or something. So it is rarer than 9b right now.

First week on exchange and in top 20 on cmc plus volume is pretty good too. NEM is doing great compare to other launches.

It's a very bad sign when you cannot answer with NEM's merits... but change the subject to ancient NXT history.

You were talking about marketcaps. You said NEM's marketcap wasn't very good after launch, and then you compared it to NXT. So I replied that NXT (which I'm not hating on at all) had a very small marketcap when it launched. I remember because everyone thought DGEX was shady and was avoiding it, and suddenly NXT skyrocketed to almost $.08-.10. My point being, give NEM some time to breath before you write it off.

Coinsy isn't from the core development team or the marketing team - he's just one of the thousands of people who are NEM / XEM holders, including me, it is Our NEM.


At the moment the price of XEM is really pure speculation but that was no different from NEMstake from June 2014 to March 2015. .  I think NEM's mobile client is coming out in a week or weeks (...months?) but, as awesome it could end up being, I don't think it by itself will send XEM into the stratosphere..  because there's already some alts with mobile clients and it's not really a huge wow factor.


In terms of speculation I'm only really seeing:

1. NEM has to avoid hacks / thefts and then it can promote itself as being the safest / most secured crypto currency (due to Cosigning, Eigentrust++, et al).  Yes exchange theft can be prevented if they all implement cosigning with funds.


2. AltNemo / Ecosystem has to take off

3. User adoption (which will probably be the result of the above two, plus some marketing).



There's also always the scenario that the Chinese come in and pump (like they did with NXT, BTS, et cetera) but that will only send a coin to around $60-$100 million and what goes up must come down.. and it doesn't goess well for a coin's reputation if people get burned by extreme volatility..

Volatility is inevitable.  You just have to fight through it.  That's crypto.

NEM gets on another exchange and there will be a lot of volatility up I think.

is there any evidence that puppet masters have consolidated socks into larger accounts?

NEM Is released and trading? I must have missed the news.
Time to claim the coins if someone can provide a link.

nem launched march 31, 2015 at 19:00 UTC. About 2 hours later Poloniex opened trading for XEM/BTC. Currently XEM is only trading on poloniex. However it's speculated that more exchanges will become available this week and weeks to come.

I own both NXT and NEM on the theory that ONE of them will do something right.

Is it too hard to understand that building toys for 50,000 crypto hobbyists is a Losing Game?

You have to target specific business niches that can benefit from a decentralized platform...
Like torrents, VPNs, hidden hosting, etc.

Torrent sites are dropping like flies...
Instead of building another freaking "market" so 17 yo can sell t-shirts...
Build a turnkey toolbox for hosting a torrent site...
There is endless open source code for this... tap into a specific $100 million business.

You'll need some simple p2p storage for web sites and back end...
But the first Gen 2.0 platform to host torrent sites anon will jump into the Top 3 market cap.

It's just the whales keeping the price down so they can buy more.

Or the devs dumping the unclaimed stakes.

NEM is a platform and XEM is the currency to support the network.  If someone wants to create their torrent thing then they could go with NEM, NXT platform or really a huge list of options to choose from.  There's a lot of coins with fairly open ecosystems and yet the person, you described, hasn't arrived into crypto to do this.

BTW - I would like to hear your model about a 2.0 / 3.0 platform hosting torrents without it being premium (pay to play) content.   A lot of online activity follows the radio model: where the responsibility to pay is shifted onto advertisers willing to pay a premium for product placement and that is how people get their free content.

Hosting torrents sites could be a big deal for crypto coins. Actually it is already possible using Nxt messages to create apps hosting torrent links.

Yup...the next Nxt release (  ;D cheesy ) will allow a 40 kB payload per message, either clear or encrypted.
Hmm.....

Really? What would that do to the blockchain (i.e., bloat)?

Good question.....25 fully loaded AMs would add 1mB to the NXT blockchain, you can do the rest of the math from there.
There will need to be some pruning mechanism, I expect.
Anyhow, 1.5 is now on TestNet, so people are free to break it any way they like....

This is where Nxt needs to go... or some else will soon.

Create "scratch pad" temporary storage that will host html + backend custom data structure...
All controlled by a Java plug-in...
You are basically making the klunky Tor Project irrelevant by hosting "hidden sites" on Nxt platform...
With Ver 1.5 you can hack it by compressing data into permanent Arbitrary Message storage...
(I believe SuperNET already uses AM storage a lot so there is competition for this limited resource).

But you really need slightly more sophisticated p2p storage...
Remember you are only hosting web site content, not competing with Amazon and Google like Storj...  
And you also need some form of micropayments to replace the millions $$$ torrent sites generate from ads...
With Nxt it's 1 NXT (about $0.01) for everything... and that is very limiting.

Torrents are less evil than the fat, rich Hollywood lawyers prosecuting random downloaders...
While Hollywood posts record profits, the entire torrent space is under attack and in disarray = Big Opportunity  :)

the blockchain will become more and more heavier

Now you just need to find a dev, do the trustless crowdfunding using Nxt Monetary System and you'll be a millionaire by the end of the year  ;D

How to implement Blockchain 'trimming' has already been discussed and also referenced in the voting section of NRS version 1.5.0e. I think if you want a message to persists beyond each trim, there will be higher fees. But not sure yet so don't quote me

Currently, the XEM price seems to be backed between 90 and 110 Satoshi. There are big trading walls on both sides. This is good for stability but I guess the most buying and selling offers have been set up some days ago without changing in the meantime. It's time to get onto other exchange to create a competition and increase trading liquidity and volatility. I know that there is no priority from the devs to get onto other exchange but it should be for the community to spread NEM further.

Do you have evidence to back-up that statement?

XEM/BTC Markets are available on Bittrex Exchange now. 

Definitely potential to be the next DOGE.

It seems it has created more sell pressure instead of more buy pressure. 67 satsoshi now. We are heading to 50 sats.
 

edit: 63 sats

It's getting close to the $1MM boundary, has there been any catastrophes, or is it just whales keeping the price down so they can buy more?

NEM project took months of work and time. Dumping is expected. The question how long should I wait to buy at the bottom? My prediction is we will see a absolute bottom around 10-20 satoshis. I can wait. Imagine extremely cheap XEM. The long-term value will rise as more features or mobile wallet deployment. Steady as she goes gentlemen. 

They shoveled 43.3 BTC into getting this below 64 sat, so for 30~40 sat this is a sure thing to grab a ton, or two. Since the CRAVE dump is over and out, I do exspect more dumping amunitions are still on stock. Yes, buy wall at 62 seems most probably to be not high enough.

If you do not like this, simply add another brick on it's top rim.

edit: wall just jumped up +2sat to elude 10% "small fry" sedimenting in front of it. So acknowledged, Wales try to push down and accumulate for a pump.

I would be VERY surprised to see XEM go below 30 sat.

I think NEM, as well as other coins will not have more great price. Unless it is handled like any shtcoin or controlled as Ripple and Stellar.

The current market appreciates more liquidity, which is good for itself by providing more stability. And for that you must usability/marketing, so the volume will be maintained, otherwise will fall.

At least not until after the medium term. ;)

You think it could like the NEMstake?  There was an initial price drop on the AE but then NEM it only ever went up.  Like from 1 NEMstake was 30,000 NXT and then it became almost 100,000 NXT after 8 months.

On the exchanges it could just be the first week(s) of dumping and it'ld build up.   ;D

Andddd...the price of NEM is now 55 sat. When will we see the bottom of this? Stop dumping!

https://www.coingecko.com/en/widget_component/ticker/nem/btc.jpg?id=nem (https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/nem/btc?id=nem)

we'll bounce 1 sat

It's a normal price development. Smart traders (sharks) sold their NEMstakes at the beginning because they know they can buy more coin much cheaper later. Beginners (call them fishes) have hoped price will go through the top and now they are completely disappointed what you can see from many negative posts here. This decreases the price and gives the sharks the chance to buy cheap and make good profit later. This is the reality about coins which used IPO/ICO.

Conclusion: Don't worry, price will go up again ;)

yep, that's how it works

Anybody see any possibility of XEM going down 40-30 sats in coming weeks?

Just wondering what our community is speculating on price these days. :)

It is hard to say.  It has been doing better since China came online. 

I think everybody has been waiting for a "big pump" and one hasn't come.  That is interesting because it would lead us to believe that NEM's distribution was actually so good that no whale accumulated enough to try to play the pump and dump game with XEM.

That leads me to believe that right now XEM is still in price discovery mode (true prices can really only be known at the top of the pump and the bottom of the dump) but seems to be settling down, and that any long term pump, will actually be the real deal caused by increased demand and not somebody manipulating the market to create bag holders. 

The problem with NEM right now, is the platform as a whole is still very young and doesn't really have a lot of great features that would support this increased demand.  What it does, it does better than any other coin I believe, but it is still just a coin and lots of other coins have a huge first mover advantage and the people using them find that they work well enough to not make a switch. 

But NEM is a long game, and while it has a coin "XEM" that is not the point of the platform.  In the future hopefully NEM will have more features added other than just messaging and sending coins, at which point the demand and marketcap will go up, especially if NEM offers services that aren't found elsewhere.  And so far the NEM devs have been very good at building tech with features that haven't and can't be found elsewhere. 

Right now most of these just focus only on security, which is a much needed thing in crypto, but doesn't really do a lot to boost transactions today.  But hopefully some new tech will come along that does boost transaction in the future and that creates a higher real market cap.

This is the initial backed, price is irrelevant.  :P

Continious slight price increase since weeks. I guess we have seen the absolute bottom of XEM.

How low did it go?

I don't know exactly. It was around 50 Satoshis. Take a look at some charts of an exchange to get the exact lowest price.

NEM upgraded from deaded to slightly deadeded  :o

NEM + POI + Deflationary currency + NEM platform = I liking what I am seeing. NEM has to mature quite a bit for prices to rise. Right now could be the time to buy NEM.

certainly i'm highly critical of nem, so many shitcoins, and scams around here only a fool would have blind faith in any of this. some of it has merit though, but also appears to have fizzled from initial hype.

i'd say a further retreat unless some sort of wow comes out of it.

There's no great desire for any crypto right now. The only people buying anything are probably the same old suspects and they're no doubt pretty worn out by the alt scene in general.

NEM in general has been much classier than most alts. It's still stuck in the same rut as all the others though.

Hypothetically if "wow" factor was offered, would you retract your critical statements about NEM? I did a bit of research and their community is solid with bright developers. No blind faith required.  

Crypto in general is stagnanted simply because it isn't mainstream yet. Does this mean we stop supporting block chain innovation? Of course not. Just support innovation.

i think any genuine crypto should welcome my questions and my criticism. i'm one of the very few members here not out for the fiat (my history would show that), but trying (and yet to find) a genuine useable, properly decentralised, p2p currency. 

From myself I don't expect record profits (it would be nice) but I can relate. However I look at the technology and its basis for existing. NEM's purpose and features are which interests me.     

88758059.12316123 only in Sell Orders  8)

Would it be that all dumbers are almost have sold their belongings?

I´m hoping that we´re heading towards upwards in coming weeks.

today has been a good day

To me, when you compare NEM to the other options out there, it stands up pretty well.

There will be ups and downs, but we will continue to see it rise because more and more people will learn that the devs have plans for NEM. Unlike other coins, our devs always come through on their promises.

Like I said, as more people out there see that the NEM devs are always working to improve the coin, those people will invest, and cause the value to increase.

NEM will only continue to grow!!!

NEM no longer top 25 on coinmarketcap.  Is worse than deaded.  NEM shitcoin.   >:(

0,00938164 $    

I hope the course will rise again.

NEM Rate > Poloniex: 0.00000784  -  Bittrex: 0.00000782
I hope it will rise up again...  ;)

NEM is making good progress. I remember just months ago it was below $50 million and kept crashing whenever it hit that resistance point. Now, NEM has reached about 80 mil market cap, and the next hurdle to overcome is $100 million. If it passes that point and does not quickly reduce in price again, that would be a huge success.

Now that NEM is in cooperation with japanese companies (Hitachi and many more) and governent of belgium, malaysia and so on, i'm looking forward to the next months. Will become pretty interesting.

On June 30th, 2015, I finished selling 5,000,000 XEM for well under 100 Satoshi each. I gained 3 BTC. That was all my XEM.
Today, this would be worth over $250,000
Feels bad man. Congrats to the hodlers.

http://imgur.com/a/CHdTX

Give it a year and people will be crying that why they sold/not sold for $250,000, i always believed that NEM can hit 1$ someday so never sold my initial stake.

I don't think anyone could have predicted that NEM would be such a success.

My first mistake was reading the NEM thread but being too lazy to claim a stake. :(

My second mistake was that after it became obvious that NEM was a serious project, I still kept thinking that NEM would always remain NXT's "little brother". So I always had more in NXT than NEM. :(

My third mistake was that I only bought the minimum limit of 0.1 NEM stake on the NXT asset exchange.

I bought a few hundred thousand more on Poloniex for about 100 satoshis each just after NEM launched though with the goal of getting up to 1 million XEM.

Which brings me to my fourth mistake. I forgot about NEM and cryptos due to college just as the bear market was beginning to reverse. So I put my original goal to reach 1 million XEM on the back burner. :(

I came back in early 2016 to see that the NEM market cap had risen 16 times to $16 million. So I thought it was too late to reach 1 million. That was my fifth mistake. :(

I still have my original 300,000 XEM. But I could have had so much more... :'(

I was buying xem since 2016, by that time I think xem price was 600 satoshi I think, then when it became 900 sats, and its all coming by a chance that I'm in need of money I sold all of my xem 55000 xem, then now it was regrettable to me because xem now is already close to 4000 satsohi, and I starting again to accumulate then hold it in a long term basis.

I hope we see the 2.000.000.000$ after the 1. August.

 :)

Many Japanese crypto holder have XEM in their portfolio.
But seems it need more traction in worldwide to become a more bigger project.

yeah, here we are  :). next step 3.000.000.000

And then we will see the  1 XEM=1$ after  3.000.000.000 ;D

Tomorrow we see 2.500.000.000 USD?

Oh boy! There's a lot of such stories in crypto and they teach you same lesson. If the project has potential, don't dump it, or don't dump all at once and save some coins long term.

NEM is actually progressing now, specially it has released a new project. The NEM Debit Card if you guys haven't been updated yet. So if you look at the trading sites, NEM has not been affected of bitcoins increase in value.

Maybe because its potential is focused in Asia, but if anybody in this forum need info in english, here it is an article from today: http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/interview/blockchain-technology-will-help-southeast-asia-leapfrog-west/

everybody should read this post as a lesson.

Reached, next step 3.000.000.000 USD, and then Moon   :D.

Hello all;)

See my latest technical comments @XEMUSD pair:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XEMUSD/KPkB9vDr-Double-bottom/ (https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XEMUSD/KPkB9vDr-Double-bottom/)

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XEMUSD/LoZbh8ty-My-longterm-vision-of-price-behaviour-for-XEMUSD-pair/

I see a lot of sideways for weeks and months now (in $).

People seem to forget that the us$ is dropping fast.  So XEM could rise relative to the dollar , but stay stable against euro/jpy

NEM is conducting a lot of meeting in this month, they want to expand their business globally. Now many people believing in the NEM we can able some developments happening and meeting being conducted with other company delegates.

You are right they have update everyday with their events and there are some ICO's that are using their platform already. I can't wait for the future of nem I own some of this coin and I really believe that it will be great next year for nem.

Has the mining and forging profit for XEM been gone down? Also when will there be an update to the Nano Wallet?

Maybe, or maybe not. That is the question:)

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XEMUSD/s39ODieE-Future-of-XEM/ (https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XEMUSD/s39ODieE-Future-of-XEM/)

We know nothing. Even market maker knows not everything about direction;)

Wow,this guy could see future.

He is probably very rich now if he belived in NEM 10m marketcap back in 2015!

I think $10m marketcap could be even next month when Comsa and Catapult will be released.

But we surely will surpas litecoin with new 5 world offices of NEM company. $5m  minimum. Something very close to Ripple.

Waiting for big pump and I am ready with Bags.Can anyone tell me what will expected price for end of 2017 ?

The exceedingly long awaited Catapult upgrade has slowly started to emerge - http://mijin.io/en/1238.html

It could be sexy times ahead, far ahead perhaps but this is a big deal for NEM.

https://forum.nem.io/t/micai-the-world-s-first-ai-based-private-wealth-management-protocol-built-on-the-nem-blockchain/10698

MiCai - the world’s first AI based private wealth management protocol built on the NEM blockchain

NEM looks like a interesting coin to invest in. NEM coins are supported on TREZOR now. That can widen its popularity and increase interest of investors.
I am going to invest in it for sure.

I got in late, but I got 1,000 NEM. HODL! Good luck, bro!