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Title: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Steve on August 15, 2012, 06:00:52 AM
The Blockchain.info app is back on the app store…no idea how that happened, but install it now before Apple changes their minds again.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 15, 2012, 06:14:49 AM
The Blockchain.info app is back on the app store…no idea how that happened, but install it now before Apple changes their minds again.

Unfortunately, it is not the Blockchain for iOS wallet app, but instead just their block explorer utility.  [Update: Apparently, the real deal -- full wallet.]


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 15, 2012, 06:16:59 AM
not even it is just to view unconfirmed transactions, might as well jailbreak

Weird, some people are reporting send and receive:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75673.msg1099955#msg1099955


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: MemoryDealers on August 15, 2012, 07:18:59 AM
There does seem to be a way to activate the full wallet functionality.
It is best to install it ASAP.

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/blockchain/id493253309?mt=8&ls=1 (http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/blockchain/id493253309?mt=8&ls=1)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 15, 2012, 08:12:43 AM
[tinfoilhat]

I wonder if Apple has had a room full of aspergic chimps working on attacks to clear out coins from iOS Blockchain.info wallets, and now that they think they've developed the perfect attack, they re-release the app?

[/tinfoilhat]

No, that sounds ridiculous


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 15, 2012, 08:33:24 AM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure. You should never have anything in it you would not be willing to lose.
Putting the app on top of that adds a few potential security threats sure, but it is already an assumed distrustful environment.

Leave the real wealth in the real wallet, put a few coins in this when going out, beer fund :)

Hmmmm, not from the way that piuk describes the operation of the blockchain.info wallets. They appear to be a fairly ingenious method of securing online wallets (private key is generated, stored and encrypted locally, then signatures are used to access the funds. Not sure how they validate the signatures! But it seems to work)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: waspoza on August 15, 2012, 09:48:41 AM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure.

Any more specific info on that please?


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: MemoryDealers on August 15, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
The code is open source.
Please feel free to take a look for insecurities:

https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: aq on August 15, 2012, 10:21:12 AM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 15, 2012, 10:26:13 AM
The code is open source.
Please feel free to take a look for insecurities:

https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone)

Yes, that's what tin-foil Carlton was concerned about, the open source aspect.

I do understand that this has not done the Satoshi client any harm (far from it), but I have a good idea of how many developers are throwing their collective nous at that project (and also a good impression of their calibre as coders). Plus there's plenty of other evidence about the extent to which others disseminate and analyse the source.

With blockchain.info wallet, piuk appears to be the sole developer. Not trying to cast any aspersions against piuk, he appears to have done a great job judging by the feedback in the main thread, but I'm still not quite confident enough to use the app. I will be sitting back and waiting for the moment, as there's no compelling use case for me (yet)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: beckspace on August 15, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure. You should never have anything in it you would not be willing to lose.
Putting the app on top of that adds a few potential security threats sure, but it is already an assumed distrustful environment.

Leave the real wealth in the real wallet, put a few coins in this when going out, beer fund :)

I thought that too!

Since the code is open, people can modify, compile and publish as an app. Or simply wait for the compiled version from Qkos Services Ltd and change it (Man-in-the-Middle).

Anyway to be sure?


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: SpontaneousDisorder on August 15, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
Other than that its great for just monitoring funds in another wallet.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 15, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure. You should never have anything in it you would not be willing to lose.
Putting the app on top of that adds a few potential security threats sure, but it is already an assumed distrustful environment.

Leave the real wealth in the real wallet, put a few coins in this when going out, beer fund :)
Welcome to the community, glad to have you.

However please learn how things work before spouting off "advice".

kthnx


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 15, 2012, 12:29:03 PM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure. You should never have anything in it you would not be willing to lose.
Putting the app on top of that adds a few potential security threats sure, but it is already an assumed distrustful environment.

Leave the real wealth in the real wallet, put a few coins in this when going out, beer fund :)

I thought that too!

Since the code is open, people can modify, compile and publish as an app. Or simply wait for the compiled version from Qkos Services Ltd and change it (Man-in-the-Middle).

Anyway to be sure?
That attack won't work with the app store, the signatures would fail.

As far as downloading a malicious version the same advice goes for any other bitcoin software, just make you you download it from a trusted source.  You could easily download a recompiled version of the mainline bitcoin client that was modified.  Just be vigilant.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Piper67 on August 15, 2012, 12:31:53 PM
A wallet on blockchain.info is inherently insecure. You should never have anything in it you would not be willing to lose.
Putting the app on top of that adds a few potential security threats sure, but it is already an assumed distrustful environment.

Leave the real wealth in the real wallet, put a few coins in this when going out, beer fund :)
Welcome to the community, glad to have you.

However please learn how things work before spouting off "advice".

kthnx

Wasn't blockchain.info fundamentally different in its approach to securing the wallet? I can't remember the technical details, nor am I an authority on them to begin with, but I do remember making a decision to move some coins to blockchain.info after reading some previous threads.

It would be nice to get a final determination on this some time.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: runlinux on August 15, 2012, 12:42:06 PM
hmmm, unable to download... Might be because i have the app from Cydia too, lol.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: drrussellshane on August 15, 2012, 12:49:08 PM
Awesome.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: beckspace on August 15, 2012, 12:52:53 PM
That attack won't work with the app store, the signatures would fail.

Nice to know.

Some questions remains:

Who checks the signatures? How often?


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: runlinux on August 15, 2012, 01:09:46 PM
yup, that did it. Uninstalled Cydia's version and the AppStore version downloaded just fine :)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: mobile4ever on August 15, 2012, 02:26:39 PM
The Blockchain.info app is back on the app store…no idea how that happened, but install it now before Apple changes their minds again.

Unfortunately, it is not the Blockchain for iOS wallet app, but instead just their block explorer utility.


not even it is just to view unconfirmed transactions, might as well jailbreak


That is necessary for many things since Apple has designed the iOS system with large restrictions on what they can do compared with things like Android, Bada, Tizen, Meego. Those four are based on Linux, which is free and open software.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 15, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
hmmm, unable to download... Might be because i have the app from Cydia too, lol.
Interesting idea... I ran into the same issue.  I removed the Cydia package and then the iOS version installed without a hitch. 



Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: davout on August 15, 2012, 06:25:59 PM
That is necessary for many things since Apple has designed the iOS system with large restrictions on what they can do compared with things like Android, Bada, Tizen, Meego. Those four are based on Linux, which is free and open software.
iOS is unix based too


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: mobile4ever on August 15, 2012, 06:30:43 PM
That is necessary for many things since Apple has designed the iOS system with large restrictions on what they can do compared with things like Android, Bada, Tizen, Meego. Those four are based on Linux, which is free and open software.
iOS is unix based too

I said "Linux", you said "Unix".

http://unix.stackexchange.com/


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 15, 2012, 06:48:57 PM
Lets see how long the goodness will last:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=562 (http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=562)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: bg002h on August 15, 2012, 06:51:10 PM
Seems to me like a real Bitcoin wallet...that keeps the coins on the server, not on the phone. Not a Bitcoin client. Pretty cool.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: davout on August 15, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
I said "Linux", you said "Unix".
We're both right :)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 15, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: bg002h on August 15, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
+1


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Gabi on August 15, 2012, 10:18:41 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 16, 2012, 12:12:55 AM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Not unless android has matured by orders of magnitude in the last year.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: aq on August 16, 2012, 09:58:58 AM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Unfortunately in the head of those disciples the Apple religion is stronger than (Bitcoin) freedom.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 16, 2012, 04:23:54 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Unfortunately in the head of those disciples the Apple religion is stronger than (Bitcoin) freedom.
So I can't have free choice and choose apple?  If I choose apple then I am a zelot?  The only true choice is android?  Doesn't sound much like free will to me.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: aq on August 16, 2012, 04:42:57 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Unfortunately in the head of those disciples the Apple religion is stronger than (Bitcoin) freedom.
So I can't have free choice and choose apple?  If I choose apple then I am a zelot?  The only true choice is android?  Doesn't sound much like free will to me.
No you got it wrong. If you choose apple, you also choose not to have a Bitcoin client. So you can choose between apple and Bitcoin. So don't complain once your choice was apple.

Apple and their walled garden system is the same as central banks and fiat. Looks great from a distance, has some (not so) hidden drawbacks. People got so used to fiat and to be governed by apple that they have a hard time to get into Bitcoin and free open source smartphones.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: davout on August 16, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
No you got it wrong. If you choose apple, you also choose not to have a Bitcoin client. So you can choose between apple and Bitcoin. So don't complain once your choice was apple.
Or you choose to jailbreak your phone, or you choose to have a separate QR code reader, or you choose to build your app from source with xcode. I'm cool with that, and trust me, I do open source.

Now you like Android, good for you I respect your choice, I'll personnally pass for now thank you very much.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: mobile4ever on August 16, 2012, 04:59:53 PM
I said "Linux", you said "Unix".
We're both right :)


Do Unix programs/apps run on Android or Meego? I really like Tizen also. Do Unix apps run on that one?


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Gabi on August 16, 2012, 05:02:32 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Unfortunately in the head of those disciples the Apple religion is stronger than (Bitcoin) freedom.
So I can't have free choice and choose apple?  If I choose apple then I am a zelot?  The only true choice is android?  Doesn't sound much like free will to me.
You are free to choose

But if you choose a fail thing then other ppl will notice your choice and react based on that. Buying iphone is so much fail.

A Galaxy S3 with the latest version of android is so much much much better.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: aq on August 16, 2012, 05:10:52 PM
No you got it wrong. If you choose apple, you also choose not to have a Bitcoin client. So you can choose between apple and Bitcoin. So don't complain once your choice was apple.
Or you choose to jailbreak your phone, or you choose to have a separate QR code reader, or you choose to build your app from source with xcode. I'm cool with that, and trust me, I do open source.
So your choice would be Windows with a MacOS theme instead of MacOS?

Now you like Android, good for you I respect your choice, I'll personnally pass for now thank you very much.
I like real freedom, instead of hacks that taste a little bit like freedom.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: bg002h on August 16, 2012, 10:07:31 PM
Seeing as this thread is already way off topic, I figured I'd throw in my two cents. I want a phone that works. I do not like that an arbitrary decision can be made to exclude a program, however, that's the price I'm willing to pay to have my phone just work. Bitcoin is bigger than Apple. Whether Apple realizes this or not is irrelevant.

P.S., I didn't type this and I'm posting from my iPhone.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: streblo on August 21, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
Is the wallet app still available on Apple's official app store and still fully functional (able to send and receive coins)? Can someone with an iPhone please confirm?

Is Apple changing its tune? Was (re)allowing the fully-functional app a mistake? Will Apple's mobile payment platform, Passport, due with iOS5 officially support Bitcoin? </rampant_speculation>


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: runlinux on August 21, 2012, 07:18:03 PM
It is still available - just checked. Yes it can still send and receive coin. Just used it :)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on August 21, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Is the wallet app still available on Apple's official app store and still fully functional (able to send and receive coins)? Can someone with an iPhone please confirm?

Is Apple changing its tune? Was (re)allowing the fully-functional app a mistake? Will Apple's mobile payment platform, Passport, due with iOS5 officially support Bitcoin? </rampant_speculation>

There is a bet on this exact topic: http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=562 (http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=562)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on August 21, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Woohoo I'm rich!!! 

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/52611567/photo.PNG


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: vinny on October 08, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
Blockchain It works on my iPhone 4S. No jailbreak required, I got it from the App Store.

There were only two tricky parts:
 - the QR code you need to link to your blockchain.info account is under My Wallet> Account Settings > Devices on their website.
 - the Captcha image is very easy to read and type. Just ignore the little squiggles at the front of the ascii characters - only type what looks like letters/numbers.

I've already confirmed it allows money to pass into the wallet, and out. QR code functionality also work.

--V


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: Marco Polo on October 08, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
Just want to say that the blockchain.info services kick ass. Definitely the best bitcoin related services out there (imho).



Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: davidspitzer on October 08, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
I just downloaded it on my iphone 5 and it works great - not full screen but scans codes- send and receives just fine


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on October 08, 2012, 11:36:48 PM
here is a video of the blockchain iOS app making a purchase from a website

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcUSyEjfVc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcUSyEjfVc)


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: gweedo on October 09, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
I just downloaded it on my iphone 5 and it works great - not full screen but scans codes- send and receives just fine

You should check out http://instawallet.org, cause they allow you to add a bitcoin address to your passbook app, and it updates the balance automatically and it really cool.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: MemoryDealers on October 09, 2012, 02:00:35 PM
I just downloaded it on my iphone 5 and it works great - not full screen but scans codes- send and receives just fine

You should check out http://instawallet.org, cause they allow you to add a bitcoin address to your passbook app, and it updates the balance automatically and it really cool.

Please provide more information on how to add a Bitcoin address to passbook.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: fishface on October 09, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
You guys should put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting Bitcoin blocking Apple. Buy some Bitcoin loving Android phone.
Except then I would have an android phone.
Wich would be a good thing actually
Unfortunately in the head of those disciples the Apple religion is stronger than (Bitcoin) freedom.
So I can't have free choice and choose apple?  If I choose apple then I am a zelot?  The only true choice is android?  Doesn't sound much like free will to me.
No you got it wrong. If you choose apple, you also choose not to have a Bitcoin client. So you can choose between apple and Bitcoin. So don't complain once your choice was apple.

Apple and their walled garden system is the same as central banks and fiat. Looks great from a distance, has some (not so) hidden drawbacks. People got so used to fiat and to be governed by apple that they have a hard time to get into Bitcoin and free open source smartphones.

This topic is old, but I'm so confused by this... I have an iPad 3 and a iPhone 4, both running iOS6, neither is "jail broken", and both download and run the blockchain.info app/wallet with no problems at all.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: davout on October 09, 2012, 02:11:50 PM
Please provide more information on how to add a Bitcoin address to passbook.
Just open instawallet.org in Safari on an iOS 6 device.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: gweedo on October 09, 2012, 02:14:32 PM
Please provide more information on how to add a Bitcoin address to passbook.
Just open instawallet.org in Safari on an iOS 6 device.

Then click "add to passbook" button and it is that simple


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: kokojie on October 09, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
Just want to say that the blockchain.info services kick ass. Definitely the best bitcoin related services out there (imho).



Yep, blockchain.info is hands down THE most secure and functional online wallet. I trust my coins with it entirely.


Title: Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now!
Post by: ErebusBat on October 09, 2012, 04:20:13 PM
Just want to say that the blockchain.info services kick ass. Definitely the best bitcoin related services out there (imho).



Yep, blockchain.info is hands down THE most secure and functional online wallet. I trust my coins with it entirely.
Agreed.  Infact I just switched back as my main storage as it is the easiest option with the greatest security for my needs.