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Title: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 04, 2015, 04:03:10 AM
How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"

Are you sick and tired of this NEM crap?  Do you want to rid the planet of all these NEMorons who only constantly lie, cheat and steal?  This is an attack vector on PoI that will surely put those greedy liars back in their place.

Step 1 - Create multiple accounts.  Say a hundred for demonstration purposes.
Step 2 - Send your NEM around in a ring from account 1, 2, 3, etc to 100 and then back to account 1.
Step 3 - Repeat to increase your PoI and then obliterate the network.  PROFIT!

The following is a very simple network topology loop attack which will catastrophically destroy NEM.  This type of attack has been repeatedly pointed out to the NEM "devs" and they simply ignore it because obviously they are more interested in making money than making a working crypto.

Feel free to write a program that interfaces with the NEM client which automatically sends the NEM from account to account and change up the size of the account loop (number of accounts) and vary the timing of the txs.  This attack is impossible to counter because there are infinite different network topology loops that can be constructed.  It wouldn't surprise me if the NEM "devs", the liars that they've proven themselves to be (They chose to associate with UtopianFuture), aren't actively exploiting this to increase their harvesting.  I hope this prevents some innocent people from putting their hard earned money in this ridiculous scam.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: 0nlyBTC on April 04, 2015, 06:04:36 AM
Harvest Rewards gonna increase.  :D


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 04, 2015, 06:24:00 AM
Isn't the long time to it get "vested" used to protect against this?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/533/422/4ed.jpg


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: TaunSew on April 04, 2015, 06:34:06 AM
OP is a beta NEMlet  :D


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: iGotSpots on April 04, 2015, 06:42:22 AM
To me this thread smells of a harvester that is sick of 0 valued blocks. That's actually why I sold what I had


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: gimre on April 04, 2015, 08:24:41 AM
Step 1 - Create multiple accounts.  Say a hundred for demonstration purposes.
Step 2 - Send your NEM around in a ring from account 1, 2, 3, etc to 100 and then back to account 1.
Step 3 - Repeat to increase your PoI and then obliterate the network.  PROFIT!

That won't work, but have fun.

Few issues here:
a) cluster detection,
b) this should bump poi a bit, but within limits
c) keep in mind your vested balance is part of importance
d) poi recalculation is done every 359 blocks


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: e-coinomist on April 04, 2015, 08:54:05 AM
Feel free to write a program that interfaces with the NEM client which automatically sends ...

Write it yourself, or shut up.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 04, 2015, 08:54:47 AM
Step 1 - Create multiple accounts.  Say a hundred for demonstration purposes.
Step 2 - Send your NEM around in a ring from account 1, 2, 3, etc to 100 and then back to account 1.
Step 3 - Repeat to increase your PoI and then obliterate the network.  PROFIT!

That won't work, but have fun.

Few issues here:
a) cluster detection,
b) this should bump poi a bit, but within limits
c) keep in mind your vested balance is part of importance
d) poi recalculation is done every 359 blocks


I've failed to see any actual math to back up the Nem "devs" assertions that PoI isn't susceptible to these types of attacks.

a) It is impossible for "cluster detection" to detect the infinite amount of account loop configurations.
b) "within limits"?  The Poloniex account had ~78% PoI the other day.  What are these "limits"?
c) You can leave some NEM in each account.  This doesn't prevent this attack.  It just makes it a little more costly.
d) Recalculation doesn't matter because this is a sustained attack.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: gimre on April 04, 2015, 10:16:06 AM
I've failed to see any actual math to back up the Nem "devs" assertions that PoI isn't susceptible to these types of attacks.

b) "within limits"?  The Poloniex account had ~78% PoI the other day.  What are these "limits"?

If you don't see the difference between  ‱ and % I don't think we can continue this discussion...

also do your math: 123469263 / 8999999999 = 137,188... ‱

So with 78‱ they are still behind their POS value.

edit: oh I just looked at your post history, so it's my last post here


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: 3x2 on April 04, 2015, 01:29:19 PM
http://i62.tinypic.com/ehkfpg.png


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 04, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
DecentralizeEconomics had all of his sock puppets murdered and is angry.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: instacalm on April 04, 2015, 03:59:41 PM
Hi there. Cool plan and awesome "attack"! Great way to generate fees of meaningless transactions that others simply harvest

Being that generous you might as well just randomly send out btc/nxt/nem/... though :3

Are you sick and tired of this NEM crap?  Do you want to rid the planet of all these NEMorons who only constantly lie, cheat and steal?

Did somebody hurt your feelings? Consider this a question to ask yourself m8
 


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Zer0Sum on April 04, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
Step 1 - Create multiple accounts.  Say a hundred for demonstration purposes.
Step 2 - Send your NEM around in a ring from account 1, 2, 3, etc to 100 and then back to account 1.
Step 3 - Repeat to increase your PoI and then obliterate the network.  PROFIT!

That won't work, but have fun.

Few issues here:
a) cluster detection,
b) this should bump poi a bit, but within limits
c) keep in mind your vested balance is part of importance
d) poi recalculation is done every 359 blocks


I've failed to see any actual math to back up the Nem "devs" assertions that PoI isn't susceptible to these types of attacks.

a) It is impossible for "cluster detection" to detect the infinite amount of account loop configurations.
b) "within limits"?  The Poloniex account had ~78% PoI the other day.  What are these "limits"?
c) You can leave some NEM in each account.  This doesn't prevent this attack.  It just makes it a little more costly.
d) Recalculation doesn't matter because this is a sustained attack.

Not saying it wouldn't work in the longer term...
But your "account balance" in not relevant... it's "vested balance"...
Which starts at zero for new transfers... and then after 2-3 days rises SLOWLY and becomes "vested" at 10%/day.

Also, the "harvesting" of the Top 50 accounts has dropped from 75% to 65% last 48 hours...
And these accounts have picked up a grand total of 90,000 XEM worth $23.00

Imagine what you could buy with $23, baby...
I'll bet Spots could take his whole family to McDonalds  :D

But still, the fact that these algos are not publically posted in a Wiki in simple terms looks sloppy.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 04, 2015, 07:32:46 PM
I've failed to see any actual math to back up the Nem "devs" assertions that PoI isn't susceptible to these types of attacks.

b) "within limits"?  The Poloniex account had ~78% PoI the other day.  What are these "limits"?

If you don't see the difference between  ‱ and % I don't think we can continue this discussion...

also do your math: 123469263 / 8999999999 = 137,188... ‱

So with 78‱ they are still behind their POS value.

edit: oh I just looked at your post history, so it's my last post here

Still doesn't stop it.


http://i61.tinypic.com/168evxc.png

Hi there. Cool plan and awesome "attack"! Great way to generate fees of meaningless transactions that others simply harvest

Being that generous you might as well just randomly send out btc/nxt/nem/... though :3

Are you sick and tired of this NEM crap?  Do you want to rid the planet of all these NEMorons who only constantly lie, cheat and steal?

Did somebody hurt your feelings? Consider this a question to ask yourself m8
 

Oh RLY?  Artificially increasing my PoI doesn't harm blockchain security???


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 04, 2015, 07:49:44 PM
OP is a beta NEMlet  :D

Proof of beluga caviar  :o

No idea what this means though


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 04, 2015, 07:53:31 PM
d) poi recalculation is done every 359 blocks

A prime number close to 6 hours? What does this give?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: 3x2 on April 04, 2015, 07:53:54 PM

http://i58.tinypic.com/zqybm.gif


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 04, 2015, 08:03:04 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

http://breakthroughjournal.org/content/Latour%20-%20crying%20baby%20-%20AP.jpg


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 04, 2015, 08:07:20 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 04, 2015, 08:13:38 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.

Burned-out altcoin hater then?

Douchebags gonna douchebag.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: 3x2 on April 04, 2015, 08:14:07 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has *criticized *other coins too.
The correct term would be trolling  ::) He seems like a shill of another POS coin and like to troll Bitshares&NEM.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 04, 2015, 08:46:53 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.

Which ones?

Bitcoin, Litecoin, Bitshares, Ripple, Stellar, Doggy, MaidSafe, PayCon, Counterparty

upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I was honest and I only claimed ONE NEM stake unlike the rest of you cheaters.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 04, 2015, 08:54:40 PM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.

Which ones?

Bitcoin, Litecoin, Bitshares, Ripple, Stellar, Doggy, MaidSafe, PayCon, Counterparty

upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I was honest and I only claimed ONE NEM stake unlike the rest of you cheaters.

I claimed 1 and won 0.1 coming in 3rd place in the PoI competition.  Care to try again?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: instacalm on April 04, 2015, 11:52:12 PM
@DecentralizedExonomics
How are you doing today, 2Kool4Skewl? :)
Btw you used the same meme face here earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583748.msg6395214#msg6395214) didn't you?

I was honest and I only claimed ONE NEM stake
+1
Why not cut down on all that hatred, it ain't doing no good to anyone including yourself. I understand where you're coming from but your recent post history here is a little extreme.


... staying away from mostly pointless cryptocoin discussions(/fights) for a couple months was good. I'll do it again I guess.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: instacalm on April 05, 2015, 12:04:18 AM
NEM is led by a Japanese Nazi who duped everybody into thinking it's egalitarian.  There's even a Japanese Swastika / Tomoe on the logo.  National Socialism on the blockchain.   :o

oh hello taunsew  : )
what's up


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 05, 2015, 12:04:54 AM
NEM is led by a Japanese Nazi who duped everybody into thinking it's egalitarian.  There's even a Japanese Swastika / Tomoe on the logo.  National Socialism on the blockchain.   :o

derp


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: testz on April 05, 2015, 05:18:47 AM
OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.

DecentralizeEconomics it's newbie account created especially to criticize everything except Nxt.  :)

@DE, we miss your BitShares communism pictures.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 05, 2015, 08:04:09 AM
@DecentralizedExonomics
How are you doing today, 2Kool4Skewl? :)
Btw you used the same meme face here earlier (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583748.msg6395214#msg6395214) didn't you?

I was honest and I only claimed ONE NEM stake
+1
Why not cut down on all that hatred, it ain't doing no good to anyone including yourself. I understand where you're coming from but your recent post history here is a little extreme.


... staying away from mostly pointless cryptocoin discussions(/fights) for a couple months was good. I'll do it again I guess.

2Kool4Skewl was banned from Bitcointalk.  The lying, cheating and stealing must stop.  If people associate themselves and promote a system which is based on lies, deceit and corruption, then they are no better than the perpetrators and are going against the original ideology of crypto.

I "fight" for truth and fairness.  I will defend the original ideology of crypto until the end.  The line must be drawn somewhere and I draw the line here.

OP pictured below, upset about his murdered sock puppet stakes

I believe this is a wrong guess, he has criticized other coins too.

DecentralizeEconomics it's newbie account created especially to criticize everything except Nxt.  :)

@DE, we miss your BitShares communism pictures.

It seems NXT is the only crypto which is free from the systematic collusion of the Corporatists, the Communists and the enemies of the original ideology of crypto.

http://i58.tinypic.com/9027th.png


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: testz on April 05, 2015, 08:51:43 AM
DE: Thanks!  :)
Looking forward for new pictures!!!


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 05, 2015, 09:55:27 AM
ROFLMAO!   ;D

I bet you have this set of letters bound to a special function key on your keyboard.  :D


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: n3lz0n on April 05, 2015, 10:30:47 AM
ignore this FUDDER he wants cheap coins!!! l


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: jabo38 on April 05, 2015, 10:41:59 AM
ignore this FUDDER he wants cheap coins!!! l

its just my guess but I bet it is a case that OP is a famous NXT troll that got like 40 of his sock puppet accounts kicked out, and now he is pissed. 


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 05, 2015, 10:49:54 AM
STFU YOU FUCKIN' LEGENDARY-TROLL   :-*

And this is another functional key, haha.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: FuckingNEM on April 05, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
Honestly why I see the contradiction with this user name but no one needs to knock NEM its going to fizzle out by itself. It has no innovation anyone cares about. POI FUCK OFFFFF. ANy coin these days needs to bring something new to the table, the window of just any boring coin getting cared about are OVER.


Its vol will decline and it will stay at sub 20th place on Coinmarketcap.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 05, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
What's wrong?   :-\

Feeling uncomfortable with the fact that everyone and their momma knows that you're a FUCKIN' LEGENDARY-TROLL by now???   ::)

Nothing wrong, I tried to force you to post something beyond your text templates. I like playing with you.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 05, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
Nothing wrong, I tried to force you to post something beyond your text templates. I like playing with you.

Yeah OK...  I didn't even have to make an actual post in this thread...   ::)

So many others have caught up with you FUCKIN' RETARDS!!!   :-*


Edit:  ROFLMAO!   ;D


You're the guy who destroyed Qora right? Well I guess if you're involved with NEM now this thread isn't needed.  ;D


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 05, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
You're the guy who destroyed Qora right? Well I guess if you're involved with NEM now this thread isn't needed.  ;D

Hey there...  how's it going with your private key???   :-*     ROFLMAO!   ;D


No sweat to me personally. But it taught me NEM ain't no movement, just another coin with greedy users. What's a stake worth 400 dollars haha. All I planned to do was top up my Gems investment.



Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: gentlemand on April 05, 2015, 06:23:50 PM
Can I join in?

Fucky fucky fucky fucky fucky







That was fun.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 06, 2015, 12:31:11 AM
No sweat to me personally. But it taught me NEM ain't no movement, just another coin with greedy users. What's a stake worth 400 dollars haha. All I planned to do was top up my Gems investment.

Yeah OK...  like it's NEM's fault that your stupid-ass didn't plug the FUCKIN' DRIVE in another workstation before overwriting the FUCKIN' DATA...  ::)

Cause it's a new laptop and a I aint gonna play around with its internals for a crap coin maybe.


Dude I'm 100% invested in Gems, they just had the iOS approved today why the hell would I care about your rapidly collapsing NXT rip off? I'm guessing by your level of swearing you are heavily invested in NEM, so whos the smart boy now, haha.




Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 06, 2015, 02:09:51 PM
Cause it's a new laptop and a I aint gonna play around with its internals for a crap coin maybe.

internals he says...  ROFLMAO!   ;D


Oh no I didn't use the right tech language I must be an idiot. Not everyone is some computer nerd loser.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
You're definitely a FUCKIN' IDIOT...  not just because of that though!   ;)

I'm curious what the real cause is...


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKIN' LEGENDARY-TROLL   :-*

So there wasn't the real cause. Exactly what I believed.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 02:51:05 PM
Yeah OK...  like anyone gives a FLYIN' FUCK what you believe...   ::)

You do give a "FLYIN' FUCK", otherwise you wouldn't reply.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
ROFLMAO!   ;D     ...such a FUCKIN' WEAKLING...

Keep posting, I find it useful to talk to you, this improves my vocabulary.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 06, 2015, 03:10:34 PM
smaragda is off his meds again.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
smaragda is off his meds again.

Hahaha, actually it's his normal behavior.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 06, 2015, 03:14:44 PM
ROFLMAO!   ;D     ...such a FUCKIN' WEAKLING...

Keep posting, I find it useful to talk to you, this improves my vocabulary.


Come on lay off the Tourettes guy he can't help he's a fuuu fuuu fuaa fuuu fuc fuckin fucking TWAT SHIT BOLLOCKS.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 03:28:52 PM
Should Jinn (https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/%28ann%29-jinn/msg106247/#msg106247) investors expect their funds to be embezzled too?

Let's continue in this thread...

So, I asked xtester and got no reply. Looks like there are no a proof that you lost money in Simcoin, doesn't it?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 06, 2015, 03:30:21 PM
secret video captured of smaragda replying to BCT threads http://www.youtube.com/v/M8pR1rZZHEs


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Yeah OK...  like this is the Nxt Forum and we're all gonna rush to do what your FUCKIN' LEGENDARY-STUPID TROLL-ASS says...   ::)

Don't derail out convo.

Is there a proof that you lost money in Simcoin?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 06, 2015, 03:41:59 PM
Should Jinn (https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/%28ann%29-jinn/msg106247/#msg106247) investors expect their funds to be embezzled too?

Ok, I got you. You have nothing except big red letters.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hollowman338 on April 06, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
Ok, I got you. You have nothing except big red letters.

Should Jinn (https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/%28ann%29-jinn/msg106247/#msg106247) investors expect their funds to be embezzled too?

Looks like the troll bot is busted again, it keeps repeating.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: zachamo on April 06, 2015, 04:02:19 PM
I thought the sign pointing to this thread said TOLL bridge. Well that was clearly a typo!


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: cryptonikus on April 06, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
Price of NEM is going up whole day, I guess some people are very unsuccessful in what their doing :D  :-*


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 07, 2015, 03:32:41 PM
Price of NEM is going up whole day, I guess some people are very unsuccessful in what their doing :D  :-*


Define a day cause this is the last 24hrs. Yeah I see a clear pump but the trend sure as hell isn't up. You NEM guys are delusional.

https://i.imgur.com/Qtlc6IH.jpg


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: From Above on April 07, 2015, 03:42:16 PM
Price of NEM is going up whole day, I guess some people are very unsuccessful in what their doing :D  :-*
Define a day cause this is the last 24hrs. Yeah I see a clear pump but the trend sure as hell isn't up. You NEM guys are delusional.

img: https://i.imgur.com/Qtlc6IH.jpg

thats right. also you have only 4% battery buddy :)


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on April 07, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
Price of NEM is going up whole day, I guess some people are very unsuccessful in what their doing :D  :-*
Define a day cause this is the last 24hrs. Yeah I see a clear pump but the trend sure as hell isn't up. You NEM guys are delusional.

img: https://i.imgur.com/Qtlc6IH.jpg

thats right. also you have only 4% battery buddy :)


Thanks for the tip, I'm registered blind so I wouldn't of known otherwise.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: MisO69 on April 08, 2015, 05:57:01 PM
Can I join in?

Fucky fucky fucky fucky fucky







That was fun.

Would have been better with pictures.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: choochimil on April 09, 2015, 10:24:42 AM
Nothing against NEM that has been raised here is relevant anymore.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: mcjavar on April 11, 2015, 12:38:47 AM
where to find the official NEM topic?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Lorenzo on April 11, 2015, 03:39:16 AM
Honestly why I see the contradiction with this user name but no one needs to knock NEM its going to fizzle out by itself. It has no innovation anyone cares about. POI FUCK OFFFFF. ANy coin these days needs to bring something new to the table, the window of just any boring coin getting cared about are OVER.

Its vol will decline and it will stay at sub 20th place on Coinmarketcap.

I'd hate to be negative but I have to admit this is possible. Unfortunately, history has been very unkind to new source coins especially those that have some connection with NXT. NAS is dead. NFD is dead. NHZ is barely alive. Qora is forgotten. Same with Crypti and NODE. The last one is particularly worrying because out of all the coins out there, NODE is probably the one that has the most similarities to NEM in that they both started off as NXT clones but later became new source coins.

Then again, Litecoin was $0.07 at January 2013 and spent most of 2013 losing value from only to suddenly skyrocket when Bitcoin prices also skyrocketed so you never really know what might happen a couple of years from now. Much of NEM's success probably hinges on whether or not cryptos as a whole will succeed.

where to find the official NEM topic?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: gentlemand on April 11, 2015, 05:05:52 PM

Unfortunately, history has been very unkind to new source coins especially those that have some connection with NXT. NAS is dead. NFD is dead. NHZ is barely alive. Qora is forgotten. Same with Crypti and NODE. The last one is particularly worrying because out of all the coins out there, NODE is probably the one that has the most similarities to NEM in that they both started off as NXT clones but later became new source coins.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845

Node fucked up by only being on BTer when it died and making zero effort in engaging people beyond its thread. The developers are still simmering away but they don't seem to understand that people other than themselves actually have to get involved.

NEM is extremely different in that aspect. No idea what'll become of it, but there is at least a decent amount of passion and support and that's something that no coding can offer.



Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: TaunSew on April 11, 2015, 06:37:45 PM

Unfortunately, history has been very unkind to new source coins especially those that have some connection with NXT. NAS is dead. NFD is dead. NHZ is barely alive. Qora is forgotten. Same with Crypti and NODE. The last one is particularly worrying because out of all the coins out there, NODE is probably the one that has the most similarities to NEM in that they both started off as NXT clones but later became new source coins.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845

Node fucked up by only being on BTer when it died and making zero effort in engaging people beyond its thread. The developers are still simmering away but they don't seem to understand that people other than themselves actually have to get involved.

NEM is extremely different in that aspect. No idea what'll become of it, but there is at least a decent amount of passion and support and that's something that no coding can offer



NODE was front page promotion on BTER and it was heading up to 150 Satoshi before the BTER hack occurred.  NODE at that rate was going to hit $1+ million capitalization, which it never did before, not what you'ld call a dying coin.

Anyway what's the point of making a coin expensive before your main features are online?  If NODE developers are Ukrainian then they'ld want to suppress the capitalization as much as possible to give their relatives and friends an opportunity to buy (average monthly income is now under $500 in Ukraine because of the inflation, people make less than factory workers in China).




Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: jabo38 on April 13, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
where to find the official NEM topic?

This thread is like a troll cave.

Here is the real BTT thread on NEM. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.0

And the overview. http://blog.nem.io/overview/


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: rtrtcrypto on April 13, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
Jabo38... is 38 the number of NEM stakes you have?  ;D




where to find the official NEM topic?

This thread is like a troll cave.

Here is the real BTT thread on NEM. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.0

And the overview. http://blog.nem.io/overview/


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: lcharles123 on April 15, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
Yep, destruct this SHIT!! ;D

Here are a BOT in py for you :-*

https://drive.bitcasa.com/send/pumm4NEn9TM2_sY6cJc2C13qh86ML6qHm42eIdeiUfHx


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on April 16, 2015, 05:25:06 AM
Yep, destruct this SHIT!! ;D

Here are a BOT in py for you :-*

https://drive.bitcasa.com/send/pumm4NEn9TM2_sY6cJc2C13qh86ML6qHm42eIdeiUfHx

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Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: mrvegad on April 27, 2015, 05:44:57 PM
You can use this to spam txs, it uses Nickel, a set of tools written in python to interact directly with NIS. I have only used this on Linux and it might need some libs installed, just run it and if any errors install missing libs.

Download Nickel: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=33119505436068887222 (http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=33119505436068887222)

In the folder there is a script called nickel, just add the private key for the account from which you are spamming from and put in the address of the account to where the spam is going, ie:

python ./nickel.py send 0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef NBCNGAGUEGFBY2SUV4Z66ZSOENJ4GGBF52J3DI6N 8000000
The 8000000 means 8 XEM will be sent.


The fee for txs is set in NemConnect.py and it is set for 2 XEM, it can be changed if you like.

Create two wallets, put some XEM in one of them and spam to the other wallet, when first wallet is empty then spam from the second wallet back to the first wallet. Repeat. You will only be losing 2 XEM a txs so it is pretty cheap.

If your computer can't handle the 1 sec txs speed it can be changed in the nickel script.

Edit:node must be BOOTED to execute any nickel commands
Edit #2: If you have a wallet with a good POI score then make sure you are harvesting from that wallet but don't spam from it, you might be able to recover your txs fees from harvesting.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: 3x2 on April 27, 2015, 05:51:09 PM
^ Thanks for TX fess, Hate to harvest block with 0 fees.
http://i.giphy.com/ljIAXJIFWH2yk.gif


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: TaunSew on June 29, 2015, 08:00:51 AM
Bring it on, do you worse, the NEM network can survive any attack from anyone.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: nextgencoin on June 29, 2015, 09:08:59 AM
How to destroy NEM?

Just wait a while...


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: TaunSew on June 29, 2015, 09:10:09 AM
How to destroy NEM?

Just wait a while...

It is the best performing release of 2015 and big things are happening.


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: vlad12 on June 29, 2015, 05:48:38 PM
How to destroy NEM?

Just wait a while...

It is the best performing release of 2015 and big things are happening.


Are you... are you a bot?


Title: Re: How to Destroy NEM - Operation "Never Ever More"
Post by: Hachoir on June 29, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
No we say "do your best" idiot