Title: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: vampire on August 21, 2012, 02:06:41 AM Wednesday, August 22
Quote 13:52 <@pirateat40> ding ding ding 13:53 <@pirateat40> Just cleaning out the smaller accounts to make things easier. Quote 17:04 <@pirateat40> I don't mind attacks, I just don't like idiots. 17:05 <@pirateat40> It just proves in this community it doesn't matter what you say, there are always people willing to come up with everything to prove you're lying. 17:06 <@pirateat40> And in a small finance market it makes it worse, cause they can induce panic. 17:07 < nathanghart> I thought you wanted a bit of panic, pirate? 17:07 <@pirateat40> nathanghart, nope just another piece of FUD that was feed to you at some point. 17:08 < ultramancool> pirateat40: still, think about what you're offering and tell me you wouldn't have the first suspicion of a ponzi scheme or similar. not saying you are, not saying you aren't, just saying there's good reason to hold suspicion. 17:11 <@pirateat40> ultramancool, trust me, I know exactly what things looked like from the outside, but it did allow me to find out who my real friends were. :) 17:12 <@pirateat40> aq83, just more money which adds more liquidity on the market, which overall adds stability. 17:12 < ultramancool> aq83: would probably help if we had more transparent investments ;p 17:12 <@pirateat40> ultramancool, investments in bitcoin will never really take off due to it not being regulated. 17:14 <@pirateat40> Real investors with real money need accountability. 17:15 <@pirateat40> Swashy, not thus far, if things don't progress in the next 12-14 hours I'll let everyone know. 17:16 <@pirateat40> cr4zywork, I can't really comment on which accounts will be paid in which order. :( 17:18 <@pirateat40> ultramancool, only because of past performance (or trust) but legally with it being an unregulated asset at least in the US, anyone could just run with the money and never heard of again. 17:21 <@pirateat40> EmanuelDeOrtego, nothing will happen, just a waste of money. 17:22 <@pirateat40> jcpham, I have been getting a lot of sleep lately. :) 17:26 < sharpfocus> pirateat40, are you still going to invite a new wave of people to gpumax in the coming months? 17:31 <@pirateat40> sharpfocus, yes Thursday, August 23rd Quote 11:53 <@pirateat40> scottjp, as am I, ill release an update here later today when I have RealSolid info. (hehehe) 11:55 <@pirateat40> I not giving out times or dates anymore since nothing seems to be on schedule except the mention of "pirate" every 10 seconds. Quote 17:12 <@pirateat40> Total Accounts Paid: 11 17:12 <@pirateat40> All small accounts. Quote 18:47 <@pirateat40> clearout, I haven't seen him. 18:47 <@pirateat40> I think he's running with the coins. 18:47 <@pirateat40> Since that always seems to work out. 18:49 <@pirateat40> Who thinks pirateat40 is going to run with the coins? 19:21 <@pirateat28> hm 22:31 <@pirateat40> Vinnie_win, you'll know soon enough, stop asking. 22:32 <@pirateat40> I'm gone for 4 hours and this place goes to hell. 22:34 <@pirateat40> honestbob, thanks but no thanks. 22:36 <@pirateat40> Update: I'm serious hard pressed for time to win a side-line bet on my payout. I'm working as fast as I possibly can and will update you "IN THIS CHANNEL" when things really start to move. 22:37 <@pirateat40> Thanks guys, have a good night. Quote 22:31 <@pirateat40> Vinnie_win, you'll know soon enough, stop asking. 22:32 <@pirateat40> I'm gone for 4 hours and this place goes to hell. 22:34 <@pirateat40> honestbob, thanks but no thanks. 22:36 <@pirateat40> Update: I'm serious hard pressed for time to win a side-line bet on my payout. I'm working as fast as I possibly can and will update you "IN THIS CHANNEL" when things really start to move. 22:37 <@pirateat40> Thanks guys, have a good night. 00:15 <@pirateat40> Who's next? 00:15 <@pirateat40> I want to sleep, 00:15 <@pirateat40> copumpkin, where were you? 00:15 <@pirateat40> [\\\], cleaned up your mess 00:15 <@pirateat40> thank satoshi for [\\\] 00:18 <@pirateat40> jk 00:18 <@pirateat40> lol Sunday, 26th Quote 20:06 <@pirateat40> At this point and in an attempt to stop the bleeding (interest) I'm going to be forced to payout everyone at once, which I'm sure will piss off enough people to counter the lack of payouts but I don't see any other way of handling this. 20:09 <@pirateat40> My concern is not "winning" the bet as much as it is "donating" the winnings. With the events of this week causing delays, 5K worth of coins is a piece of sand compared to the amount of money I'm losing every hour. 20:13 <@pirateat40> I'm doing everything in my power within the contracts of the "Real World" to get things moving as fast as possible. If, I end up losing the bets and spending everything I worked for to make things right I will. I will not be giving any additional times or dates until I know exactly when things will happen. 20:17 <@pirateat40> I know you guys want updates and communication, but I'm somewhat muted by the personal attacks and legalities of whats going on. There is a lot more to this story than just "Send me back my coins." If I had all the coins just sitting around I would've has this wrapped up a long time ago. Tuesday, 28th Quote pirateat40 : Notice: If you are a PPT operator please contact me via PM. Thanks Today - 4:55 PM pirateat40 has changed the topic: Bitcoin Savings & Trust - Main Channel - [No ETA on payments] | You must be registered with nickserv to speak | If you are a PPT operator please contact me. Today - 4:56 PM Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM Post by: Electricbees on August 21, 2012, 02:07:51 AM Quote 22:04 <@pirateat40> Trading vs Shutting Down is a much harder than just clicking a button. There is A LOT of money moving around and I want this done as orderly as possible. The process began last night and has been happening all day but its not something that happens over night. The repayment will begin with the earliest investors first, but its tricky cause some of them now run PPT accounts which isn't fair to some. When coins being to move I'll let everyone know. BTW, No you can not buy your way to the front, so stop asking. 10:06 PM in what timezone? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM Post by: smoothie on August 21, 2012, 02:09:38 AM Quote 22:04 <@pirateat40> Trading vs Shutting Down is a much harder than just clicking a button. There is A LOT of money moving around and I want this done as orderly as possible. The process began last night and has been happening all day but its not something that happens over night. The repayment will begin with the earliest investors first, but its tricky cause some of them now run PPT accounts which isn't fair to some. When coins being to move I'll let everyone know. BTW, No you can not buy your way to the front, so stop asking. 10:06 PM in what timezone? LOL OP said EST....please read.... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM Post by: vampire on August 21, 2012, 02:10:20 AM Quote 22:04 <@pirateat40> Trading vs Shutting Down is a much harder than just clicking a button. There is A LOT of money moving around and I want this done as orderly as possible. The process began last night and has been happening all day but its not something that happens over night. The repayment will begin with the earliest investors first, but its tricky cause some of them now run PPT accounts which isn't fair to some. When coins being to move I'll let everyone know. BTW, No you can not buy your way to the front, so stop asking. 10:06 PM in what timezone? LOL OP said EST....please read.... I fixed it, it wasnt there Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM Post by: Electricbees on August 21, 2012, 02:11:38 AM Quote 22:04 <@pirateat40> Trading vs Shutting Down is a much harder than just clicking a button. There is A LOT of money moving around and I want this done as orderly as possible. The process began last night and has been happening all day but its not something that happens over night. The repayment will begin with the earliest investors first, but its tricky cause some of them now run PPT accounts which isn't fair to some. When coins being to move I'll let everyone know. BTW, No you can not buy your way to the front, so stop asking. 10:06 PM in what timezone? LOL OP said EST....please read.... ( Sometimes I forget to read the whole title. We've all done it, I think... ::) Also, it wasn't there. I'm in the green, and now you can be embarrassed. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: Electricbees on August 21, 2012, 08:09:46 PM Any updates on pirate's shit?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 21, 2012, 08:12:57 PM I think he's going to be stalling for a long time... :)
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: Electricbees on August 21, 2012, 08:15:56 PM He's going to be owing hella fucking interest if that's so... :P
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: smoothie on August 21, 2012, 08:17:51 PM He's going to be owing hella fucking interest if that's so... :P yup which makes it less and less likely he will return any coins.... remember he is prorating the interest by the hour that the coins are returned. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: alexanderanon on August 21, 2012, 09:46:47 PM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 21, 2012, 09:47:47 PM LOL he's teasing all you mofo's
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 21, 2012, 09:50:09 PM He's going to be owing hella fucking interest if that's so... :P yup which makes it less and less likely he will return any coins.... remember he is prorating the interest by the hour that the coins are returned. I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not so much worried about the pro-rated interest as I am about him paying anything out at all. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 21, 2012, 09:54:39 PM I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not so much worried about the pro-rated interest as I am about him paying anything out at all. The agreement is Interest to the minute that he has people's coins.....EVEN MINE. This community has given away SCAMMER TAGS for Bitcoin amounts as small as 20. By 'making an example out of me' he is simply causing my return to be greater. Every minute my balance is out of my hands, the greater the payout....simple as that. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: elux on August 21, 2012, 09:55:41 PM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( I missed this one: I'm looking to pull one bigger than mybitcoin.com. If figure, go big or go back to work. :) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: unclescrooge on August 22, 2012, 08:18:10 AM The show must go on.... we don't get the money, but we get the jokes.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Ocean6 on August 22, 2012, 08:37:35 AM Pirate has turned into quite a dick
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Jointops420 on August 22, 2012, 08:58:37 AM I hope it will be a long time before people trust one person giving them way to much sway in the bitcoin economy. It was tempting to put some money into it but common sense got a hold of me, although my opinion is that common sense isnt so common these days.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: finkleshnorts on August 22, 2012, 09:05:49 AM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( I didn't even lose money with Pirate, but reading this just infuriates me. Openly mocking the people who sent him their money. If you're gonna take it all, just leave. This is sadistic. Why is he still hanging around? Arsonist watching a house burn? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: mp420 on August 22, 2012, 09:30:00 AM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( I didn't even lose money with Pirate, but reading this just infuriates me. Openly mocking the people who sent him their money. If you're gonna take it all, just leave. This is sadistic. Why is he still hanging around? Arsonist watching a house burn? He's actually wrong in that quote. If he actually pays back everything he owes he's making history as the creator of the first 3000%+ real interest investment scheme that wasn't a fraud. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: finkleshnorts on August 22, 2012, 09:40:12 AM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( I didn't even lose money with Pirate, but reading this just infuriates me. Openly mocking the people who sent him their money. If you're gonna take it all, just leave. This is sadistic. Why is he still hanging around? Arsonist watching a house burn? He's actually wrong in that quote. If he actually pays back everything he owes he's making history as the creator of the first advertised3000%+ real interest investment scheme that wasn't a fraud. FTFY before somebody complained "Facebook" Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: Grinder on August 22, 2012, 10:03:04 AM FTFY before somebody complained "Facebook" Facebook never promised 3000% interest.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: unclescrooge on August 22, 2012, 10:09:40 AM That's the point :)
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: gene on August 22, 2012, 02:19:41 PM FTFY before somebody complained "Facebook" Facebook never promised 3000% interest.Why do people bring up facebook and 3000% anything? Its stock has lost half its value since the IPO. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: beckspace on August 22, 2012, 03:20:41 PM Quote 18:18 <@pirateat40> freebiscuit, the odds that you hear about the first round of payments will be slim. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 22, 2012, 03:22:41 PM Why is that? Because they wont happen? He's telling everyone to eat a big Cock meat sandwich.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 22, 2012, 03:57:25 PM Why is that? Because they wont happen? He's telling everyone to eat a big Cock meat sandwich. I'd like to see it in its full context.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 22, 2012, 04:01:05 PM I'm leaning more toward the idea that if Pirate were going to bail, he would be long gone by now.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: 556j on August 22, 2012, 04:04:22 PM Why is that? Because they wont happen? He's telling everyone to eat a big Cock meat sandwich. I'd like to see it in its full context.Read the OP. I'm leaning more toward the idea that if Pirate were going to bail, he would be long gone by now. Have you ever tried anal? You know you gotta loosen up the asshole before you stick the dick in? That's what's happening here. It's a way of pirate coping with what is about to go down as well, first starts saying things as a "joke", then it really happens. I see it often with people. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Enigma81 on August 22, 2012, 04:06:04 PM I'm not suggesting he is, and I'm not suggesting he isn't; but, it's entirely possible he is sitting on the beach of a non-extradition country sipping an umbrella drink and typing on a netbook connected to his shiny new satellite phone with internet tethered. Just because he's still occasionally posting or IRCing doesn't in any way mean that he is or is not "long gone".
Enigma Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 22, 2012, 04:10:53 PM Why is that? Because they wont happen? He's telling everyone to eat a big Cock meat sandwich. I'd like to see it in its full context.Read the OP. I take it you didn't read the OP, did you? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: 556j on August 22, 2012, 04:16:51 PM You're right, I missed that. It is suspect that it's creatively edited, with one way convos in some instances.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 22, 2012, 04:18:40 PM You're right, I missed that. It is suspect that it's creatively edited, with one way convos in some instances. Yeah, it'd be nice to see a paste of the full conversation that went on :-\ Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Bascule on August 22, 2012, 04:21:21 PM I'm leaning more toward the idea that if Pirate were going to bail, he would be long gone by now. Gone?!? He doesn't need to go anywhere, you have no idea where he is!!! Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: teflone on August 22, 2012, 04:46:11 PM Ahhhhhh
I finally have the community figured out. Its acceptable to take hundreds of thousand of coins from investors, only to crash the market to potentially buy back lower walking away with the difference, then mock all the investors and community while doing it.. Classy shit people! Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: vampire on August 22, 2012, 04:54:53 PM You're right, I missed that. It is suspect that it's creatively edited, with one way convos in some instances. Yeah, it'd be nice to see a paste of the full conversation that went on :-\ Logs are way too long Quote 18:17 < freebiscuit> did I see earlier that pirate had started paying out ? 18:17 < dissipate> copumpkin, a horse? seems more like a Jekyll and Hyde. 18:17 < copumpkin> freebiscuit: news to me 18:17 < ssst> zZzzzZ 18:17 <+_matthew_> People who hate me most: SA trolls 18:18 < uw> freebiscuit, yea man i got mine back 18:18 <@pirateat40> freebiscuit, the odds that you hear about the first round of payments will be slim. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: Mousepotato on August 22, 2012, 04:57:03 PM You're right, I missed that. It is suspect that it's creatively edited, with one way convos in some instances. Yeah, it'd be nice to see a paste of the full conversation that went on :-\ Logs are way too long Quote 18:17 < freebiscuit> did I see earlier that pirate had started paying out ? 18:17 < dissipate> copumpkin, a horse? seems more like a Jekyll and Hyde. 18:17 < copumpkin> freebiscuit: news to me 18:17 < ssst> zZzzzZ 18:17 <+_matthew_> People who hate me most: SA trolls 18:18 < uw> freebiscuit, yea man i got mine back 18:18 <@pirateat40> freebiscuit, the odds that you hear about the first round of payments will be slim. Hmm interesting. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: yochdog on August 22, 2012, 04:57:32 PM Why is that? Because they wont happen? He's telling everyone to eat a big Cock meat sandwich. I'd like to see it in its full context.Read the OP. I'm leaning more toward the idea that if Pirate were going to bail, he would be long gone by now. Have you ever tried anal? You know you gotta loosen up the asshole before you stick the dick in? That's what's happening here. It's a way of pirate coping with what is about to go down as well, first starts saying things as a "joke", then it really happens. I see it often with people. Holy shit, I spewed my coffee everywhere when i read this. Best post I have read in months.....fucking classic. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: dust on August 22, 2012, 04:57:50 PM Ahhhhhh Yeah, IF pirate does pay back, people will be less inclined to do business with him in the future due to his antics surrounding the shutdown. This itself is a sign that he won't pay.I finally have the community figured out. Its acceptable to take hundreds of thousand of coins from investors, only to crash the market to potentially buy back lower walking away with the difference, then mock all the investors and community while doing it.. Classy shit people! Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: finkleshnorts on August 22, 2012, 05:03:30 PM Yeah, IF pirate does pay back, people will be less inclined to do business with him in the future due to his antics surrounding the shutdown. This itself is a sign that he won't pay. +1 That's a really great point, Dust. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: vagina on August 22, 2012, 05:31:06 PM Just leaving this here. Base64 Decode for PDF.
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4aptuiaz Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: tbcoin on August 22, 2012, 05:49:23 PM Just leaving this here. Base64 Decode for PDF. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4aptuiaz Since your name is Vagina, is that directions to the elusive G spot ? Trendon T Shavers Table of Contents: Summary Property Criminal Records Relatives and Associates Professional Contact Info Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: vampire on August 22, 2012, 05:54:29 PM Looks like one payment is out...
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: elux on August 22, 2012, 06:00:49 PM Looks like one payment is out... Code: 19:53 <[\\\]> hey pirateat40, thanks for the payout! Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 21th 9:24PM EST Post by: vampire on August 22, 2012, 06:01:17 PM Looks like one payment is out... Code: 19:57 <bdcs> <[\\\]> hey pirateat40, thanks for the payout! <---- for real? You missed bitminterN8... https://i.imgur.com/tVatg.png Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: teflone on August 22, 2012, 06:38:32 PM Whew.. 100 coins.. that should shut everyone up..
lmao ::) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: greyhawk on August 22, 2012, 06:47:11 PM That's a statement of withdrawal. Is there even any indication that the money really ended up in bitminterN8's wallet?
Also, following the trail from bitminterN8s initial deposit into pirate's Big Bitcoin Washing Saloon is hilarious. So many turns in so many washing machines. It's like Rollercoaster Tycoon, but with Bitcoin. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: rjk on August 22, 2012, 06:48:27 PM That's a statement of withdrawal. Is there even any indication that the money really ended up in bitminterN8's wallet? Which is odd, because as far as I know, Pirate has never bothered to obfuscate his payments.Also, following the trail from bitminterN8s initial deposit into pirate's Big Bitcoin Washing Saloon is hilarious. So many turns in so many washing machines. It's like Rollercoaster Tycoon, but with Bitcoin. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: greyhawk on August 22, 2012, 06:52:44 PM That's a statement of withdrawal. Is there even any indication that the money really ended up in bitminterN8's wallet? Which is odd, because as far as I know, Pirate has never bothered to obfuscate his payments.Also, following the trail from bitminterN8s initial deposit into pirate's Big Bitcoin Washing Saloon is hilarious. So many turns in so many washing machines. It's like Rollercoaster Tycoon, but with Bitcoin. Just follow bitminterN8's original 100 BTC deposit from http://blockchain.info/address/1NGYcUEwXMLH2umYzNs23KUS1EAEtLF7My . It's a straightforward enough path, then in mid August it starts to get pumped out from one huge 70000 BTC account into ever smaller circles. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: zorgberg on August 22, 2012, 07:04:42 PM That's a statement of withdrawal. Is there even any indication that the money really ended up in bitminterN8's wallet? Which is odd, because as far as I know, Pirate has never bothered to obfuscate his payments.Also, following the trail from bitminterN8s initial deposit into pirate's Big Bitcoin Washing Saloon is hilarious. So many turns in so many washing machines. It's like Rollercoaster Tycoon, but with Bitcoin. Just follow bitminterN8's original 100 BTC deposit from http://blockchain.info/address/1NGYcUEwXMLH2umYzNs23KUS1EAEtLF7My . It's a straightforward enough path, then in mid August it starts to get pumped out from one huge 70000 BTC account into ever smaller circles. part of that trail has ended up here http://blockchain.info/address/1CZj3an4HVvkaQiTQvBdYcGFy6Bqf4MuRM along with another 15k that is at this very moment being moved around. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: 10:06PM EST Post by: Hfertig on August 22, 2012, 08:47:42 PM Quote [17:44] <@pirateat40> Wouldn't it be fun to run with the coins though? I could make history.... If i pay back, I just get forgotten. :( I didn't even lose money with Pirate, but reading this just infuriates me. Openly mocking the people who sent him their money. If you're gonna take it all, just leave. This is sadistic. Why is he still hanging around? Arsonist watching a house burn? He's actually wrong in that quote. If he actually pays back everything he owes he's making history as the creator of the first 3000%+ real interest investment scheme that wasn't a fraud. This is a big achievement !!! IŽll bow in front of pirate if heŽll be able to pay everything back Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: fcmatt on August 22, 2012, 09:09:58 PM at the rate of his current payouts, basically a handful every 3 days, he will be broke soon no matter what with the closing and lack of hypothetical income
to pay the interest piling up. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 1:55PM EST Post by: nima on August 22, 2012, 09:10:24 PM Al this waiting and no coins is reminding me more of "waiting for godot". :(
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 22, 2012, 09:37:05 PM I think people will see some coins but not all.... or some will get all and some will get none..... Pirate gonna play eenie meenie minnie moe :)
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: filharvey on August 22, 2012, 10:15:08 PM I've received my payout.
Phil Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: elux on August 22, 2012, 10:21:42 PM Code: 23:05 <pirateat40> It just proves in this community it doesn't matter what you say, there are always people willing to come up with everything to prove you're lying. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: bitcon on August 22, 2012, 11:53:45 PM wrong, pireate. bitcoin has taken off because its not regulated.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on August 23, 2012, 12:40:11 AM Quote 17:18 <@pirateat40> ultramancool, only because of past performance (or trust) but legally with it being an unregulated asset at least in the US, anyone could just run with the money and never heard of again. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: Coinoisseur on August 23, 2012, 02:25:27 AM Hey guys I hear there is no popcorn regulator, we're free to grab all the popcorn and run for the hills!
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 23, 2012, 06:01:56 AM wrong, pireate. bitcoin has taken off because its not regulated. It hasn't taken off yet. What can you buy for BTC? I can count the things if I take off my pants and my shoes. Either you are a hideous mutant freak of nature or have never heard of Bitmit, where hundreds of things are on sale for BTC. ;D And BTW, fuck coercive government interference in the economy (ie regulation). Use Helicopter Ben's Fiat Funbucks if you like central planning. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: elux on August 23, 2012, 04:05:14 PM Quote 17:55 <pirateat40> I not giving out times or dates anymore since nothing seems to be on schedule except the mention of "pirate" every 10 seconds. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: fcmatt on August 23, 2012, 04:20:02 PM Quote 17:55 <pirateat40> I not giving out times or dates anymore since nothing seems to be on schedule except the mention of "pirate" every 10 seconds. all nice and cool taking your money. a whiny kid when he has it. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: SpontaneousDisorder on August 23, 2012, 04:49:37 PM Quote 17:55 <pirateat40> I not giving out times or dates anymore since nothing seems to be on schedule except the mention of "pirate" every 10 seconds. all nice and cool taking your money. a whiny kid when he has it. *scumbag steve Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Micon on August 24, 2012, 07:36:12 AM nothing today? recently?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Coinoisseur on August 24, 2012, 07:45:45 AM Just some joking and a bit of "these things take time."
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 24, 2012, 02:21:12 PM Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 22th 5:32PM EST Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 24, 2012, 07:25:52 PM wrong, pireate. bitcoin has taken off because its not regulated. It hasn't taken off yet. What can you buy for BTC? I can count the things if I take off my pants and my shoes. Either you are a hideous mutant freak of nature or have never heard of Bitmit, where hundreds of things are on sale for BTC. ;D And BTW, fuck coercive government interference in the economy (ie regulation). Use Helicopter Ben's Fiat Funbucks if you like central planning. Bitmit? A nice start but that counts like Amazon Auctions counts as a place where you can spend dollars. Taking off implies anyone really gives a shit about it or a significant number of people rely upon it for income, beyond trading it back and forth with Funbucks. An ecosystem worth a few million dollars has not "taken off". That time is yet to come. Amazon Auctions had nothing to do with Bitmit and is merely a red herring. Initially, you claimed to be able to count the things you can buy for BTC if you take off your pants and shoes. When I pointed out that Bitmit alone (not to mention Memory Dealers and all the rest listed at https://www.spendbitcoins.com/places/) proves you are wrong, you ran away from your previous claim to a different position. Nice job at moving the goalposts. That's a good way to destroy your credibility. Also, the market cap of BTC is about 100 million. That's not "a few million" as you disdainfully claimed. 100 is quite a lot of millions, but you can't bring yourself to be anything but purposefully obtuse and sarcastically negative. Another good way to lose credibility. I agree that BTC has not taken off. It's at the stage where the internet was in the early 90s, before email and the web. But that grain of truth doesn't help make your lies and fallacies any more persuasive. Good luck with your dream of bitcoin being regulated by anything other than the invisible hand of the free market. You're going to need it, you silly pony. ;) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: byronbb on August 24, 2012, 07:41:09 PM www.piratetracker.info ::)
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: bitcoinBull on August 24, 2012, 09:22:43 PM This thread is for BTCST updates, but its understandable that it is has gone completely off-topic.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 25, 2012, 01:25:25 AM Reece, instead of continuing to be boorish and spouting more tedious, unamusing rhetoric, can you explain why you think regulation would help propel bitcoin into the mainstream?
Even better, why not take us back on topic via the high road of explaining how regulation would prevent our favorite sources of drama/rage/titillation/lulz, such as goxed/bitcoinica/pirate from becoming issues? Do you want Instawallet, MtGox, BTC-E, Silk Road, or even TOR, shut down because they are unregulated? I've put out my position, stating that the invisible hand of the free market shall provide all necessary guidance. Why not respond to the crux of the matter, instead of dancing around rambling pompously about all the things you don't believe I understand? You seem unwilling or unable to do that. My guess being the latter. Again, good luck with your centrally planned and carefully regulated fantasy version of bitcoin. You'll need plenty. Such a silly little pony! ::) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: bitcon on August 25, 2012, 03:59:40 AM ponies and pirates and bears, oh my!
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: crazy_rabbit on August 25, 2012, 08:23:53 AM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: tiberiandusk on August 25, 2012, 08:47:10 AM WHAR IS BITCOINS? WHAR?
This is what all you suckers sound like. If you send bitcoins to the address in my sig I will guarantee a 3000% return paid in happy thoughts in your general direction. Did you feel that? The first one is free. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Micon on August 25, 2012, 11:55:39 AM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates? Quote from: pirateat40 Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: mobodick on August 25, 2012, 01:12:21 PM Reece, instead of continuing to be boorish and spouting more tedious, unamusing rhetoric, can you explain why you think regulation would help propel bitcoin into the mainstream? Because the mainstream will only feel confident in using bitcoin if it's regulated. Most people are not willing to invest when they have no protection whatsoever in case they get ripped off. Bitcoin a.t.m. is scammers paradise, i hope you realize THAT much. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: salty on August 25, 2012, 01:40:11 PM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates? The updates go into the first post in-thread, that way it doesn't matter how off-topic it goes :) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: DeathAndTaxes on August 25, 2012, 03:36:56 PM Because the mainstream will only feel confident in using bitcoin if it's regulated. Most people are not willing to invest when they have no protection whatsoever in case they get ripped off. Bitcoin a.t.m. is scammers paradise, i hope you realize THAT much. SEC is one of the largest regulatory bodies in the world and Madoff ran a scheme for over a decade that makes Pirates stunt look like an idiotic highschool prank. You can't regulate stupid. How would one regulate Bitcoin? Honestly. Not that I am for more regulation (which merely raises the cost of business for legitimate businesses) but how exactly would you do it? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: DeathAndTaxes on August 25, 2012, 03:48:59 PM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates? There are no updates. TADA back on topic. Well there is one update since yesterday: The amount owed by Pirate to his creditors has increased by another 5,000 BTC! If Pirates claim of 500K BTC is accurate that would mean he now owes ~540,000 BTC (minus the value of 11 unconfirmed "small accounts"). Also his interest only obligation is now ~$56,700 per day or $39.38 per minute. That means he needs to pay $56,7000 a day every day not to pay off the "investors", but to avoid the amount he owes from increasing. Yes his debt in in BTC but I am using USD because maybe that makes it more "real". So say today he paid back $25,000. The amount he owed would still be increasing. Even if you still believe he had a legit business which could afford $57,600 a day in interest, he shut it down a week ago. He nows owes about a half million USD more than when he shut it down. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 25, 2012, 04:11:49 PM ^ holy jesus that is crazy.....
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: imsaguy on August 25, 2012, 04:16:04 PM Vampire, I appreciate you cleaning up your quotes. :)
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on August 25, 2012, 04:17:05 PM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates? There are no updates. TADA back on topic. Well there is one update since yesterday: The amount owed by Pirate to his creditors has increased by another 5,000 BTC! If Pirates claim of 500K BTC is accurate that would mean he now owes ~540,000 BTC (minus the value of 11 unconfirmed "small accounts"). Also his interest only obligation is now ~$56,700 per day or $39.38 per minute. That means he needs to pay $56,7000 a day every day not to pay off the "investors", but to avoid the amount he owes from increasing. Yes his debt in in BTC but I am using USD because maybe that makes it more "real". So say today he paid back $25,000. The amount he owed would still be increasing. Even if you still believe he had a legit business which could afford $57,600 a day in interest, he shut it down a week ago. He nows owes about a half million USD more than when he shut it down. And remember, it's "at least" 500k BTC ;) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Micon on August 25, 2012, 04:58:14 PM I would prefer if this didn't go off topic. Where are the updates? There are no updates. TADA back on topic. Well there is one update since yesterday: The amount owed by Pirate to his creditors has increased by another 5,000 BTC! If Pirates claim of 500K BTC is accurate that would mean he now owes ~540,000 BTC (minus the value of 11 unconfirmed "small accounts"). Also his interest only obligation is now ~$56,700 per day or $39.38 per minute. That means he needs to pay $56,7000 a day every day not to pay off the "investors", but to avoid the amount he owes from increasing. Yes his debt in in BTC but I am using USD because maybe that makes it more "real". So say today he paid back $25,000. The amount he owed would still be increasing. Even if you still believe he had a legit business which could afford $57,600 a day in interest, he shut it down a week ago. He nows owes about a half million USD more than when he shut it down. And remember, it's "at least" 500k BTC ;) ok so this keeps bothering me: since the shut down, everyone has been monitoring this wallet over in Speculation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94675.0 looks to have acquired 500k+ btc after 2012 started, with a recent 100k shipment before the Gox market tanked from $14-> $7 -> $10 so it seems like he ended the BCST with ~ 500k hard BTC in a wallet. Now remember he paid a shit ton of interest, always depleting principal week after week - so that means he may have collected ~ 700k BTC and paid out ~200k BTC over time and is left with ~500k BTC. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Grinder on August 25, 2012, 07:03:48 PM so it seems like he ended the BCST with ~ 500k hard BTC in a wallet. Now remember he paid a shit ton of interest, always depleting principal week after week - so that means he may have collected ~ 700k BTC and paid out ~200k BTC over time and is left with ~500k BTC. I don't understand why you assume that it belongs to Pirate in the first place? If it does it would mean he actually has about the required amount to pay out, and he made it with pretty much all of the money he collected just sitting there doing nothing. That makes no sense.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: labestiol on August 25, 2012, 07:07:41 PM so it seems like he ended the BCST with ~ 500k hard BTC in a wallet. Now remember he paid a shit ton of interest, always depleting principal week after week - so that means he may have collected ~ 700k BTC and paid out ~200k BTC over time and is left with ~500k BTC. I don't understand why you assume that it belongs to Pirate in the first place? If it does it would mean he actually has about the required amount to pay out, and he made it with pretty much all of the money he collected just sitting there doing nothing. That makes no sense.+1, this wallet is most likely mtgox cold wallet Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Micon on August 26, 2012, 02:14:20 AM so it seems like he ended the BCST with ~ 500k hard BTC in a wallet. Now remember he paid a shit ton of interest, always depleting principal week after week - so that means he may have collected ~ 700k BTC and paid out ~200k BTC over time and is left with ~500k BTC. I don't understand why you assume that it belongs to Pirate in the first place? If it does it would mean he actually has about the required amount to pay out, and he made it with pretty much all of the money he collected just sitting there doing nothing. That makes no sense.+1, this wallet is most likely mtgox cold wallet u know that makes a helluvalot more sense? I guess the .01337 + the binary in-wallet spam is just ppl lulzish-ly sending coins to it to spell something? if it's the Gox cold wallet why did it only start accumulating balance this year? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: imsaguy on August 26, 2012, 02:35:30 AM u know that makes a helluvalot more sense? I guess the .01337 + the binary in-wallet spam is just ppl lulzish-ly sending coins to it to spell something? if it's the Gox cold wallet why did it only start accumulating balance this year? The binary was coming out of the wallet if I'm not mistaken, not going in, which means its most likely not a mtgox storage wallet. If we really want to know for certain, it'd be best to just ask MagicalTux vs everyone speculating on it. There could be many reason why Gox could want to fire up a new storage address. or it could not be them at all. Let's have MTux confirm/deny. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: MrTeal on August 26, 2012, 02:59:40 AM If the big wallet is Pirate, people are in serious trouble. Hopefully it's Gox's cold storage.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Grinder on August 26, 2012, 06:58:08 AM The binary was coming out of the wallet if I'm not mistaken, not going in, which means its most likely not a mtgox storage wallet. The binary coins are going into the wallet. According to the thread about the address the first part decodes to "So long and thanks for all the fish", and the rest is just an ad for a web site spelled backwards.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: elux on August 26, 2012, 11:14:20 AM The binary was coming out of the wallet if I'm not mistaken, not going in, which means its most likely not a mtgox storage wallet. The binary message was going in to the wallet. This could be verified in about a second. Are you purposefully trying to mislead people? so it seems like he ended the BCST with ~ 500k hard BTC in a wallet. Now remember he paid a shit ton of interest, always depleting principal week after week - so that means he may have collected ~ 700k BTC and paid out ~200k BTC over time and is left with ~500k BTC. I don't understand why you assume that it belongs to Pirate in the first place? If it does it would mean he actually has about the required amount to pay out, and he made it with pretty much all of the money he collected just sitting there doing nothing. That makes no sense.+1, this wallet is most likely mtgox cold wallet u know that makes a helluvalot more sense? Either this is false or MtGox is really, really into laundering their customers money for funds reason. (For obvious reasons this is highly implausible.) Next you're gonna say: It's most likely Silk Road! Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 26, 2012, 12:39:03 PM Pirate is Silkroad, Duh :P
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: labestiol on August 26, 2012, 01:17:34 PM Either this is false or MtGox is really, really into laundering their customers money for funds reason. (For obvious reasons this is highly implausible.) What do you mean by laundering customers money ? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: stick_theman on August 26, 2012, 01:22:41 PM No more updates? What's the deadline for Matthew's payout then? This is iiiincredible. I bet some folks are way too shamed to come forward on the number of bitcoins lost in this debacle.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: elux on August 26, 2012, 01:49:26 PM Either this is false or MtGox is really, really into laundering their customers money for funds reason. (For obvious reasons this is highly implausible.) What do you mean by laundering customers money ? As for the observed transactions, it would also make sense if it was mtgox. Someone bought a lot of coins during the drop, and cashed them out, forcing mtgox to refill the hot wallet. The best way to check (without MagicalTux confirmation) would be to correlate it to the ask side of their orderbook (supposing it represent a stable % of all btc deposits, which is not perfect, but should still be ok). Not so. If so, Mt. Gox is laundering money: https://blockchain.info/address/1E9k79dLuhfspdEtymzP7vhaYVGFcdfsYs Follow that 20k. What is the point of this? As of now, there are 18 different confirmed addresses the 20k transfers to, making small (relatively) deposits on the way. What is going on? Oh boy, those 20k BTC from earlier are moving like bees with diabetes from one flower to another. I cant even keep track of that money. Looks like when it finally arrives, it will be clean as a whistle. The 80k BTC are still staying put. https://blockchain.info/tx-index/16394734/d2f25503cf1ddf56c65635d449b17c72c32e696cd7f4fca1aeb94392675f19ba The remaining 80k BTC just set in motion. Laundering in process.. https://blockchain.info/address/1PecDbc6fshLFXJHRmFFv6PEc63MkX6Knu It's not Gox. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: AndrewBUD on August 26, 2012, 01:55:09 PM Please die of rectal cancer where you can watch the tumor grow firsthand.
LOL...... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: imsaguy on August 26, 2012, 04:45:21 PM The binary was coming out of the wallet if I'm not mistaken, not going in, which means its most likely not a mtgox storage wallet. The binary message was going in to the wallet. This could be verified in about a second. Are you purposefully trying to mislead people? No, I was working off memory, I didn't have the address url handy when posting, which is why I put the disclaimer. In the very next statement I said we should ask gox, so relax, I'm after the truth like everyone else. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: elux on August 26, 2012, 08:53:37 PM A wild steamship appeared:
Code: 22:36 -!- pirateat40 is now known as steamship Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: herzmeister on August 26, 2012, 09:01:25 PM This seems to be one jolly and prosperous chat channel. Does it belong to the bankruptcy assets to be liquidated?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Ocean6 on August 26, 2012, 09:26:39 PM More info revealed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101958.200 pg 11 Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: elux on August 27, 2012, 12:16:40 AM Code: 01:56 -!- steamship is now known as pirateat40 Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: BIGMERVE on August 27, 2012, 01:30:20 AM I almost feel bad for Pirate. There is so much pressure he must be facing right now. Unless he's already run with the money. In that case life must be great.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitcoiners on August 27, 2012, 01:32:26 AM I almost feel bad for Pirate. There is so much pressure he must be facing right now. Unless he's already run with the money. In that case life must be great. Lol, oh yeah, Pirate's the victim here. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: zaj on August 27, 2012, 02:12:11 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7..
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: sadpandatech on August 27, 2012, 02:18:13 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. aye, one would think. I would imagine that $5m could buy one hell of a fire proof suit though. ;p Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Bascule on August 27, 2012, 02:21:58 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. He doesn't get flamed on IRC. He has his own channel where sycophantic mods kick anyone who is remotely critical. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: fcmatt on August 27, 2012, 02:25:06 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. or try to get some type of sympathy for his "efforts". oh gee. look. it is working. simple coherent communication since everything was being wound up would have stopped all of this. simple payouts to the easiest lenders would have stopped all of this. simple. but pirate choose to do everything in the worst way possible. it would not be bitcoin if everything was simple tho. i am at the point i want to see a payout just so the btc market gets a good rattle. trader's best dream come true. if no pay out.. at this point the market has already priced it in and pirate has little left to sell. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: imsaguy on August 27, 2012, 02:26:02 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. He doesn't get flamed on IRC. He has his own channel where sycophantic mods kick anyone who is remotely critical. Spend more time there, there's quite a bit said in the negative. There's a right way to be critical and there's a wrong way. Some people forget that. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Micon on August 27, 2012, 02:41:32 AM Quote from: Pirateat40 20:06 <@pirateat40> At this point and in an attempt to stop the bleeding (interest) I'm going to be forced to payout everyone at once, which I'm sure will piss off enough people to counter the lack of payouts but I don't see any other way of handling this. 20:09 <@pirateat40> My concern is not "winning" the bet as much as it is "donating" the winnings. With the events of this week causing delays, 5K worth of coins is a piece of sand compared to the amount of money I'm losing every hour. 20:13 <@pirateat40> I'm doing everything in my power within the contracts of the "Real World" to get things moving as fast as possible. If, I end up losing the bets and spending everything I worked for to make things right I will. I will not be giving any additional times or dates until I know exactly when things will happen. 20:17 <@pirateat40> I know you guys want updates and communication, but I'm somewhat muted by the personal attacks and legalities of whats going on. There is a lot more to this story than just "Send me back my coins." If I had all the coins just sitting around I would've has this wrapped up a long time ago. Stally McStallersen, that is the endgame here. This got way to big for him way to fast. O/u $50k per day in interest? That's why you can't borrow monies at 7% per week. That's crack prices. 1) lolz at "winning" and "donating" being any concern when u owe like $10M USD to the internet 2) "Real World" just keeping a BTC brotha' down in this matter, and other vague thoughts here 3) and clearly Pirateat40 cannot make small payments nor will he address this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94675.0 (which is the digital equidistant of the Pulp Fiction "Bad Motherfuckr" wallet) (also known as "where the scammer put all your bitcoins" ) 4) Would love to hear from some of Pirate's co-conspirators ( Payb.tc and BurtW ) at this stage. Remember when BurtW put in his sig "It's not a Ponzi" ? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: coinft on August 27, 2012, 03:12:20 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. He doesn't get flamed on IRC. He has his own channel where sycophantic mods kick anyone who is remotely critical. Spend more time there, there's quite a bit said in the negative. There's a right way to be critical and there's a wrong way. Some people forget that. That's funny. Quibbling over niceties in speech when millions are lost. No skin off my back though, as I frequent neither IRC nor BTCST. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: ElMoIsEviL on August 27, 2012, 04:06:11 AM Alright so Pirateat40 is an ahole.
But you know what... all the people who bought into this... are greedy opportunists. The type of people who believe the Nigerian Email scams. I hope they learn from this the way American homeowners did in 2008. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: zaj on August 27, 2012, 11:03:38 AM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. He doesn't get flamed on IRC. He has his own channel where sycophantic mods kick anyone who is remotely critical. Spend more time there, there's quite a bit said in the negative. There's a right way to be critical and there's a wrong way. Some people forget that. That's funny. Quibbling over niceties in speech when millions are lost. No skin off my back though, as I frequent neither IRC nor BTCST. dunno i just don't get it. if i had the balls and could live with the guilt of stealing so much money i wouldn't bother wasting my time on irc and just dissapear in silence. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: vuce on August 27, 2012, 11:19:34 AM But you know what... all the people who bought into this... are greedy opportunists. The type of people who believe the Nigerian Email scams. I hope they learn from this the way American homeowners did in 2008. I sure did :'( Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 11:30:11 AM I sure loves me some justice.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2-I31Imis&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: MrTeal on August 27, 2012, 02:12:35 PM I sure loves me some justice..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2-I31Imis&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s Wait, is your justice the pliers and blowtorch, or the gimp? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: 556j on August 27, 2012, 02:18:59 PM dunno i just don't get it. if i had the balls and could live with the guilt of stealing so much money i wouldn't bother wasting my time on irc and just dissapear in silence. Sticking around for a while and hinting/joking at what's to come is a way to cope with the guilt. I see it all the time in RL. First a person starts mentioning stuff as a joke "should run with the money right? It would be funny LOL" (paraphrase) then it really happens a little down the road. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 02:20:55 PM I sure loves me some justice..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2-I31Imis&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s Wait, is your justice the pliers and blowtorch, or the gimp? The Gimp, obviously. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: MrTeal on August 27, 2012, 02:30:20 PM I sure loves me some justice..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2-I31Imis&feature=player_detailpage#t=208s Wait, is your justice the pliers and blowtorch, or the gimp? The Gimp, obviously. Dude. I knew you weren't dead! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=zXsbN4EokqA Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Rygon on August 27, 2012, 03:46:07 PM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. aye, one would think. I would imagine that $5m could buy one hell of a fire proof suit though. ;p If this really was a Ponzi, he wouldn't have $5M in coins. He would have been paying interest on old accounts with new money. Based on some rough estimates of deposits and interest paid, BS&T would have, at most, only 10s of thousands of BTC, not hundreds. You can't run very far and buy much protection for under $1M USD. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on August 27, 2012, 04:45:55 PM if he was a scammer i'm pretty sure he would have taken the bitcoins and went to enjoy life instead of getting flamed on irc and forums 24/7.. aye, one would think. I would imagine that $5m could buy one hell of a fire proof suit though. ;p If this really was a Ponzi, he wouldn't have $5M in coins. He would have been paying interest on old accounts with new money. Based on some rough estimates of deposits and interest paid, BS&T would have, at most, only 10s of thousands of BTC, not hundreds. You can't run very far and buy much protection for under $1M USD. Much of the interest paid each week came straight back, there's every possibility he's ended up with a few hundred thousand coins. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Serge on August 27, 2012, 04:46:28 PM More info revealed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101958.200 pg 11 you should learn to link to specific posts Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: 556j on August 27, 2012, 05:22:30 PM If this really was a Ponzi, he wouldn't have $5M in coins. He would have been paying interest on old accounts with new money. Based on some rough estimates of deposits and interest paid, BS&T would have, at most, only 10s of thousands of BTC, not hundreds. You can't run very far and buy much protection for under $1M USD. Why only tens of thousands?Much of the interest paid each week came straight back, there's every possibility he's ended up with a few hundred thousand coins. Even if we low ball it and say $500,000 USD worth of coins. You can buy a reliable bluewater sail boat for $20k. Lets say he splurged and spend $60K (used of course). You can live VERY comfortable in the Carribean, Central/South America for $1,000/month. That would be around 35 years. Say 30 years after inflation. Assuming he has no income ever again for the rest of his life. None of the funds are invested, and none of the funds remain as bitcoins (all very unlikely) That includes fuel, food, alcohol, docking ect. You have the option of traveling around the world. You can move your location every day. Chance of you finding someone that lives like that is slim to none. Not really expensive and pretty good way of life. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 05:27:16 PM How did the Dead Man's Switch work again ?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on August 27, 2012, 06:06:06 PM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :)
http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: fcmatt on August 27, 2012, 07:10:03 PM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :) http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM i have not seen solid evidence that is pirate's wallet. after all, how does one get 500K in BTC and magically pay interest without touching that original 500K? Some type of business? Doubtful. Notice how it just kept going up for the most part. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: MrTeal on August 27, 2012, 07:19:20 PM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :) http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM i have not seen solid evidence that is pirate's wallet. after all, how does one get 500K in BTC and magically pay interest without touching that original 500K? Some type of business? Doubtful. Notice how it just kept going up for the most part. If you pull in more in deposits than you pay out (not keep compounding) in interest, you can always deposit the excess in your cold wallet without withdrawing. Of course, is that was the case Pirate's paper liabilities must be over BTC1M. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: yochdog on August 27, 2012, 07:39:00 PM No. freaking. way.
http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html (http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html) edit: looks like a well done spoof. The URL is mis-spelled. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: MrTeal on August 27, 2012, 07:43:23 PM http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=caymenluxuryproperty.com&type=domain (http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=caymenluxuryproperty.com&type=domain)
Domain Name: CAYMENLUXURYPROPERTY.COM Registrar: NAME.COM LLC Whois Server: whois.name.com Referral URL: http://www.name.com Name Server: SNS293.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM Name Server: SNS294.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 27-aug-2012 Creation Date: 27-aug-2012 Expiration Date: 27-aug-2013 Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 07:46:51 PM http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html
Quote News August 27th, 2012 Cayman Luxury Property Group is proud to announce a new payment method. Through working with a top official in the Bitcoin community, Cayman Luxury Property Group is now able to accept Bitcoin payments for properties listed through our service. The first such purchase was made today in the amount of 100,000BTC at the agreed upon exchange rate of $9.60 (USD). We look forward to further expanding our sales with this new virtual, and worldwide, currency. I think I just shat myself...... thankfully..... http://caymanluxuryproperty.com/news.html Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Litecoin on August 27, 2012, 07:47:52 PM No. freaking. way. http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html (http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html) edit: looks like a well done spoof. The URL is mis-spelled. Yeah, well spotted. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: RicePicker on August 27, 2012, 07:56:22 PM Someone put the effort to make the website +1 for them.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: bitlane on August 27, 2012, 07:59:52 PM It's amazing what can be done with an Enom Account, Identity protection and a Hostgator Hosting account.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: tbcoin on August 27, 2012, 08:00:35 PM No. freaking. way. http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html (http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html) edit: looks like a well done spoof. The URL is mis-spelled. This is a very elaborate panic sell .... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Tomatocage on August 27, 2012, 08:00:51 PM http://caymenluxuryproperty.com/news.html Quote News August 27th, 2012 Cayman Luxury Property Group is proud to announce a new payment method. Through working with a top official in the Bitcoin community, Cayman Luxury Property Group is now able to accept Bitcoin payments for properties listed through our service. The first such purchase was made today in the amount of 100,000BTC at the agreed upon exchange rate of $9.60 (USD). We look forward to further expanding our sales with this new virtual, and worldwide, currency. I think I just shat myself...... thankfully..... http://caymanluxuryproperty.com/news.html I admit, I lol'd. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: m_yaw on August 27, 2012, 09:44:20 PM Quote = 21:28:20 < EskimoBob> has pirateat40 left the town for good? No news at all = 21:29:02 <@pirateat40> EskimoBob, i don't think so, check piratetracker.info to be sure. = 21:29:22 < Muis> lol = 21:30:02 < EskimoBob> pirateat40: How soon will this bs fiasco be over? = 21:30:36 <@pirateat40> EskimoBob, no one wants it over faster. = 21:30:39 < _matthew_> The way I figure it, I should just go away and come back in 2 weeks. I'm too tempted to PM pirate and ask for updates. = 21:30:47 < _matthew_> :D = 21:30:52 * _matthew_ pulls out hair UTC Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST Post by: Ocean6 on August 27, 2012, 09:51:25 PM More info revealed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101958.200 pg 11 you should learn to link to specific posts Ok, will attempt to do so. Thanks for the suggestion. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: DeathAndTaxes on August 27, 2012, 09:53:49 PM Pirate needs cheap coins - CHECK
Elaborate panic sell hoax - CHECK. Suckers who will sell their coins at any price - Will it be you? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: silverbox on August 31, 2012, 12:23:09 AM Any new quotes from irc?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: imsaguy on August 31, 2012, 12:27:20 AM Any new quotes from irc? Evidently there's a new script and it says 22 accounts have been paid out. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: SysRun on September 01, 2012, 12:12:15 AM still 22... a day later. Also, no attorney info has been released.
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: sadpandatech on September 01, 2012, 12:17:37 AM still 22... a day later. Also, no attorney info has been released. it was reportedly 22 like 6 days ago when he first alluded to that number. One person has shown 'proof' that they received money. It was a newer account whose BTC tracked in, moved one address then tracked right back out. Similarly to quite a few of them that I tracked. Aside from the ones that went to that address that will be unamed and appeared to nothing more than filter through a mixer in and then sit for a while before filtering through a mixer back out... Sounds lucrative... Though, there is one other possibility. Imagine a group of people getting together and conspiring to pool their money together in order to try and manipulate the market with it........ They would of course keep some coins to enjoy the fruits of such activities... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: BIGMERVE on September 01, 2012, 01:33:24 AM still 22... a day later. Also, no attorney info has been released. it was reportedly 22 like 6 days ago whne he first alluded to that number. One person has shown 'proof' that they received money. It was a newer account whose BYC tracked in, moved one address than tracked right back out. Similarly to quite a few of them that I tracked. Aside from the ones that went to that address that will be unamed and appeared to nothing more than filter through a mixer in and then sit for a while before filtering through a mixer back out... Sounds lucrative... Though, there is one other possibility. Imagine a group of people getting together and conspiring to pool their money together in order to try and manipulate the market with it........ They would of course keep some coins to enjoy the fruits of such activities... Why would he start paying out a new and small account? It sounds like a hoax, just like bigfoot people love attention. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: repentance on September 01, 2012, 05:11:32 AM pirate wanted the information from the PPT operators by midnight Friday and told goat that information about his lawyers contact details would be available on Friday, but has he actually set up another chat with the PPT operators?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 01, 2012, 05:23:48 AM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :) http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM i have not seen solid evidence that is pirate's wallet. after all, how does one get 500K in BTC and magically pay interest without touching that original 500K? Some type of business? Doubtful. Notice how it just kept going up for the most part. Simple math! You only deposit 93% of the take into the main account. (or something like that) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: repentance on September 01, 2012, 05:43:29 AM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :) http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM i have not seen solid evidence that is pirate's wallet. after all, how does one get 500K in BTC and magically pay interest without touching that original 500K? Some type of business? Doubtful. Notice how it just kept going up for the most part. If you pull in more in deposits than you pay out (not keep compounding) in interest, you can always deposit the excess in your cold wallet without withdrawing. Of course, is that was the case Pirate's paper liabilities must be over BTC1M. Except that pirate maintained that he was selling the Bitcoins his lenders were giving him, which means they'd need to leave the wallet. He also said that BS&T and GPUMax used the same wallet - have any GPUMax payments come from that address? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: MrTeal on September 01, 2012, 08:16:39 AM Pirate's almost halfway cashed out :) http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM i have not seen solid evidence that is pirate's wallet. after all, how does one get 500K in BTC and magically pay interest without touching that original 500K? Some type of business? Doubtful. Notice how it just kept going up for the most part. If you pull in more in deposits than you pay out (not keep compounding) in interest, you can always deposit the excess in your cold wallet without withdrawing. Of course, is that was the case Pirate's paper liabilities must be over BTC1M. Except that pirate maintained that he was selling the Bitcoins his lenders were giving him, which means they'd need to leave the wallet. He also said that BS&T and GPUMax used the same wallet - have any GPUMax payments come from that address? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Grinder on September 01, 2012, 08:35:30 AM Wel yeah, if Pirate was running his operation like people describe, then that wouldn't make sense. That above as describing how that could be Pirate's wallet if he was running a ponzi. It doesn't make sense either way. It has many more coins than he would have if it is a ponzi, and too little usage if he was running a secret trading service.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: P4man on September 01, 2012, 08:40:25 AM It doesn't make sense either way. It has many more coins than he would have if it is a ponzi, Why do you say that? Keep in mind that the bulk of investors most likely compounded their interests. If you believed pirate was legit, it would be almost silly not to. Precious few coins would therefore have to leave that wallet. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: repentance on September 01, 2012, 08:56:45 AM It doesn't make sense either way. It has many more coins than he would have if it is a ponzi, Why do you say that? Keep in mind that the bulk of investors most likely compounded their interests. If you believed pirate was legit, it would be almost silly not to. Precious few coins would therefore have to leave that wallet. pirate said he maintained several wallets. The PPT operators would be able to confirm whether they ever sent funds to the wallet in question. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on September 01, 2012, 09:01:53 AM It doesn't make sense either way. It has many more coins than he would have if it is a ponzi, Why do you say that? Keep in mind that the bulk of investors most likely compounded their interests. If you believed pirate was legit, it would be almost silly not to. Precious few coins would therefore have to leave that wallet. pirate said he maintained several wallets. The PPT operators would be able to confirm whether they ever sent funds to the wallet in question. Furthermore, remember when pirate claimed to be crashing the market, and brought BTC price down from $9 to $7.50? There are 80K BTC of withdrawals from that wallet that coincide perfectly with that event ;) Also, now that BS&T is gone the funds from that wallet are slowly disappearing into various mixing services - Is it that hard to believe? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Grinder on September 01, 2012, 09:20:30 AM Why do you say that? Keep in mind that the bulk of investors most likely compounded their interests. If you believed pirate was legit, it would be almost silly not to. Precious few coins would therefore have to leave that wallet. Because all the explanations to how he would earn so much involves buying and selling bitcoins. In this wallet they are just sitting there. The buying and selling explanations don't really make sense in the first place, but they make even less sense if his clients never even get any coins. The sum of the accounts is just a number in any investment fund or bank. The invested money doesn't just sit in an account that magically increases. They are being invested in shares and whatever, or lended to other customers.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: P4man on September 01, 2012, 09:24:35 AM Because all the explanations to how he would earn so much involves buying and selling bitcoins. In this wallet they are just sitting there. You ignore the most plausible explanation; namely that he didnt earn any money at all and was just operating a ponzi. That correlates perfectly with what you see with that wallet. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Grinder on September 01, 2012, 09:31:53 AM You ignore the most plausible explanation; namely that he didnt earn any money at all and was just operating a ponzi. That correlates perfectly with what you see with that wallet. No, I said there were too much money for that. There was a message somewhere that said how much interest he was paying for one week, and if that number was right the base sum would be about 500 000 BTC when he defaulted. That includes a lot of compound interest, so the total sum people have sent to him and not withdrawn would be perhaps 100-150k. This wallet has much more than that.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: repentance on September 01, 2012, 09:49:08 AM Because all the explanations to how he would earn so much involves buying and selling bitcoins. In this wallet they are just sitting there. You ignore the most plausible explanation; namely that he didnt earn any money at all and was just operating a ponzi. That correlates perfectly with what you see with that wallet. I don't really doubt that he was running a ponzi (or a variation thereof). I'm just not sure why he would choose to hold his ill-gotten gains in BTC for any length of time knowing that when he pulled the plug he'd have a large number of coins to liquidate. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on September 01, 2012, 09:52:34 AM You ignore the most plausible explanation; namely that he didnt earn any money at all and was just operating a ponzi. That correlates perfectly with what you see with that wallet. No, I said there were too much money for that. There was a message somewhere that said how much interest he was paying for one week, and if that number was right the base sum would be about 500 000 BTC when he defaulted. That includes a lot of compound interest, so the total sum people have sent to him and not withdrawn would be perhaps 100-150k. This wallet has much more than that.Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: P4man on September 01, 2012, 09:55:58 AM You ignore the most plausible explanation; namely that he didnt earn any money at all and was just operating a ponzi. That correlates perfectly with what you see with that wallet. No, I said there were too much money for that. There was a message somewhere that said how much interest he was paying for one week, and if that number was right the base sum would be about 500 000 BTC when he defaulted. That includes a lot of compound interest, so the total sum people have sent to him and not withdrawn would be perhaps 100-150k. This wallet has much more than that.AFAIK the estimate was made on interest payments that actually went out, ie, not reinvested. Using that to guess the total size of this might vastly underestimate the actual deposits if the bulk of it was being reinvested. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: ErebusBat on September 01, 2012, 01:36:32 PM I'm just not sure why he would choose to hold his ill-gotten gains in BTC for any length of time knowing that when he pulled the plug he'd have a large number of coins to liquidate. Unless he is long bitcoins... if he didn't want/need the fiat immediately and he believes that their value will increase this makes sense. Also if he had liquidated them in the past through gox then you can bet you ass they would have some sort of paper trail on him. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: TangibleCryptography on September 01, 2012, 02:05:17 PM It doesn't make sense either way. It has many more coins than he would have if it is a ponzi, Why do you say that? Keep in mind that the bulk of investors most likely compounded their interests. If you believed pirate was legit, it would be almost silly not to. Precious few coins would therefore have to leave that wallet. Well the compounded interest is just paper dragons. If Pirates claim of 500K is correct and most users compounded the amount of true deposits is probably closer to 220K or less. Some users likely did withdraw principal and interest lets say ~15% that would put the value of the actual coins ~180K vs 500K owed. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: P4man on September 01, 2012, 02:12:04 PM the compounded interest is just paper dragons. If Pirates claim of 500K is correct and most users compounded the amount of true deposits is probably closer to 220K or less. Some users likely did withdraw principal and interest lets say ~15% that would put the value of the actual coins ~180K vs 500K owed. I dont think Pirate ever claimed 500K. I think people noticed a pattern in blockchain that matched his interest payouts and worked out a number based on that. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: TangibleCryptography on September 01, 2012, 02:15:44 PM No he did; in IRC at the time of closing. Now he may have been full of shit but all the guesstimates and theories were based on that.
Also dammit I used the wrong account to post that & this. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: P4man on September 01, 2012, 04:52:55 PM No he did; in IRC at the time of closing. Now he may have been full of shit but all the guesstimates and theories were based on that. I missed that then. Then again, it seems entirely plausible Pirate would refer to the number of coins in his wallet(s) instead of the principals + fictional accumulated interest. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Micon on September 01, 2012, 05:03:21 PM No he did; in IRC at the time of closing. Now he may have been full of shit but all the guesstimates and theories were based on that. I missed that then. Then again, it seems entirely plausible Pirate would refer to the number of coins in his wallet(s) instead of the principals + fictional accumulated interest. yup. He was talking about how much he got away with. That bad boy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94675.0 had 500k ish BTC in it, the wallet was built over the course of 2012. Best fit numbers for this scam: 1,000,000 BTC on paper ~700k BTC collected ~200k BTC paid out in interest over this year, most of it last 3-6 weeks ~500k BTC left when he now owes ~70k/wk BTC on paper, some will take only interest out, most leave it in, but then with the interest takers + a few principal withdraws, the writing was on the wall for Pirate that he'd be broke in just a few short weeks of interest + withdraws, so just stop now with 500k+ BTC. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 26th 8:11PM EST Post by: repentance on September 01, 2012, 08:12:07 PM I'm just not sure why he would choose to hold his ill-gotten gains in BTC for any length of time knowing that when he pulled the plug he'd have a large number of coins to liquidate. Unless he is long bitcoins... if he didn't want/need the fiat immediately and he believes that their value will increase this makes sense. Also if he had liquidated them in the past through gox then you can bet you ass they would have some sort of paper trail on him. I'm assuming that if it was a con he would liquidate OTC as BTC came in and not try to hold them hoping for a price increase. Then again, I doubt anyone executes a con perfectly. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on September 02, 2012, 07:39:32 PM No he did; in IRC at the time of closing. Now he may have been full of shit but all the guesstimates and theories were based on that. https://i.imgur.com/CAdlb.pngAlso dammit I used the wrong account to post that & this. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Electricbees on September 03, 2012, 09:45:24 PM Anddddddddddd...
Everyone's fucked. Moving on... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on September 03, 2012, 11:37:46 PM No he did; in IRC at the time of closing. Now he may have been full of shit but all the guesstimates and theories were based on that. I missed that then. Then again, it seems entirely plausible Pirate would refer to the number of coins in his wallet(s) instead of the principals + fictional accumulated interest. yup. He was talking about how much he got away with. That bad boy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94675.0 had 500k ish BTC in it, the wallet was built over the course of 2012. Best fit numbers for this scam: 1,000,000 BTC on paper ~700k BTC collected ~200k BTC paid out in interest over this year, most of it last 3-6 weeks ~500k BTC left when he now owes ~70k/wk BTC on paper, some will take only interest out, most leave it in, but then with the interest takers + a few principal withdraws, the writing was on the wall for Pirate that he'd be broke in just a few short weeks of interest + withdraws, so just stop now with 500k+ BTC. This makes no sense... I thought it was already confirmed that the big account belonged to silk road. It makes perfect sense. Why would the silk road: 1-Make 80k in withdrawals coinciding with pirate's attempt to "manipulate the market" with big selloffs when the price hit $9? 2-Suddenly decide to start emptying the address and laundering the coins as soon as BS&T collapsed? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Phraust on September 04, 2012, 02:52:39 AM Suddenly decide to start emptying the address and laundering the coins as soon as Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Micon on September 04, 2012, 10:21:28 AM Suddenly decide to start emptying the address and laundering the coins as soon as +1 biggest reason for it being Pirate booty is that nothing else - I mean nothing else in the entire BTC universe makes sense to have 5% of bitcoins in 1 wallet, built starting early this year until BCST busto. Nothing else it could be. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Grinder on September 04, 2012, 12:30:13 PM biggest reason for it being Pirate booty is that nothing else - I mean nothing else in the entire BTC universe makes sense to have 5% of bitcoins in 1 wallet, built starting early this year until BCST busto. Nothing else it could be. MtGox moved about 424242 coins at the same time after the hack to prove they were still in control of them, and they probably have more now. ArtFortz mined a huge amount of the coins in the beginning so if he hasn't sold as many as he said he may have twice that amount. Some unknown rich guy may even just have bought that amount speculating that the price will rise. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: sadpandatech on September 04, 2012, 12:36:25 PM biggest reason for it being Pirate booty is that nothing else - I mean nothing else in the entire BTC universe makes sense to have 5% of bitcoins in 1 wallet, built starting early this year until BCST busto. Nothing else it could be. MtGox moved about 424242 coins at the same time after the hack to prove they were still in control of them, and they probably have more now. ArtFortz mined a huge amount of the coins in the beginning so if he hasn't sold as many as he said he may have twice that amount. Some unknown rich guy may even just have bought that amount speculating that the price will rise. That and we have not done any technical analysis to link the 1Dky address definitively to any other entity at this time. With the publicly and not so publicly available addresses (very few thus far) that I have acquired from despositors/receivers of BS&T, there was only a superficial link to that address. It was not enough beyond what you can find with most active addresses to make a determination. Hopefully more data will come available soon and we can make that determination. And, Micon give it the fuck up already. You are not touching on anything new at all. We have been discussing the possible link to that address for months and many have been tracking coins in and out of it for even longer. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: P4man on September 04, 2012, 02:38:45 PM MtGox moved about 424242 coins at the same time after the hack to prove they were still in control of them, and they probably have more now. ArtFortz mined a huge amount of the coins in the beginning so if he hasn't sold as many as he said he may have twice that amount. Some unknown rich guy may even just have bought that amount speculating that the price will rise. While they may have such amount of coins, neither MtGox or ArtFortz would be likely to build up a wallet like this over the past 6 months, and then liquidate it just when pirate fails. We may never know for sure, but unless someone other than pirate stands up and proves ownership of that wallet, its definitely the best hypothesis available.. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: ErebusBat on September 04, 2012, 06:36:42 PM MtGox moved about 424242 coins at the same time after the hack to prove they were still in control of them, and they probably have more now. ArtFortz mined a huge amount of the coins in the beginning so if he hasn't sold as many as he said he may have twice that amount. Some unknown rich guy may even just have bought that amount speculating that the price will rise. While they may have such amount of coins, neither MtGox or ArtFortz would be likely to build up a wallet like this over the past 6 months, and then liquidate it just when pirate fails. We may never know for sure, but unless someone other than pirate stands up and proves ownership of that wallet, its definitely the best hypothesis available.. If this were some sort of MtGox cold/long-term storage then: 1. They would probably move large (10+k) batches at a time 2. As they were used in the exchange it would appear as laundering due to the wide audience of gox. Someone else used the term "bees with diabetes" So it is quite possible that it is something other than the pirate wallet, even though a lot of things do fit for BTCST Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: imsaguy on September 04, 2012, 08:17:11 PM MtGox moved about 424242 coins at the same time after the hack to prove they were still in control of them, and they probably have more now. ArtFortz mined a huge amount of the coins in the beginning so if he hasn't sold as many as he said he may have twice that amount. Some unknown rich guy may even just have bought that amount speculating that the price will rise. While they may have such amount of coins, neither MtGox or ArtFortz would be likely to build up a wallet like this over the past 6 months, and then liquidate it just when pirate fails. We may never know for sure, but unless someone other than pirate stands up and proves ownership of that wallet, its definitely the best hypothesis available.. If this were some sort of MtGox cold/long-term storage then: 1. They would probably move large (10+k) batches at a time 2. As they were used in the exchange it would appear as laundering due to the wide audience of gox. Someone else used the term "bees with diabetes" So it is quite possible that it is something other than the pirate wallet, even though a lot of things do fit for BTCST Has anyone asked magicaltux? Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: ehmdjii on September 10, 2012, 02:22:39 PM does anyone have a log from what has been said by pirate on #btcst last night?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: BrightAnarchist on September 10, 2012, 02:29:34 PM does anyone have a log from what has been said by pirate on #btcst last night? I was there, and he provided no information other than stating that he was not involved in zeek rewards. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: vampire on September 10, 2012, 02:32:50 PM does anyone have a log from what has been said by pirate on #btcst last night? 16:55 <@pirateat40> bot 16:56 <@pirateat40> I told him 16:56 <@pirateat40> TuxBlackEdo, no sorry you're stuck here. 16:58 <@pirateat40> tbcoin, I really wish I could, but don't have firm information yet and promised before I wouldn't give out details unless I knew for sure. 16:58 <@pirateat40> zeek? 16:58 <@pirateat40> Is that a new startup? 16:58 <@pirateat40> ??? 16:58 <@pirateat40> um 16:59 <@pirateat40> badbitcoin, i had no idea it was going on and no nothing to do with me. 17:00 <@pirateat40> lol 17:00 <@pirateat40> really 17:01 <@pirateat40> aq83, i didn't team up with anyone. I lost one bet, im not going to lose another. 17:02 <@pirateat40> badbitcoin, reading... 17:03 <@pirateat40> UncleScrooge, nope, those that didn't missed their chance and can battle it out on the high seas. 17:04 <@pirateat40> tbcoin, I wish i was the boss. 17:05 <@pirateat40> Phraust, no comment 17:05 <@pirateat40> BarnacleTsunami, no comment 17:05 <@pirateat40> OneFixt, no pm's, sorry. 17:06 <@pirateat40> OneFixt, you can email me anytime. 17:08 <@pirateat40> Oinsane1, nope those are clear 17:13 <@pirateat40> Have a good evening, night or morning guys. By for now. 17:13 <@pirateat40> Bye* Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: Shadow383 on September 10, 2012, 02:34:14 PM does anyone have a log from what has been said by pirate on #btcst last night? I was there, and he provided no information other than stating that he was not involved in zeek rewards. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: bitlane on September 10, 2012, 02:36:10 PM Something has recently come into my brain, that I am unable to let go of, as it almost seems plausible....
If he was in fact selling coins-for-cash, perhaps he's at a point now where he is having a difficult time getting money back onto/into the Exchange, in order to repurchase replacement coins on a large scale, while still remaining 'under the radar' of the IRS/AML Regs etc ? Obviously I am 'spit-balling' here....but as I said, it was an idea. So in short: If anyone was planning on flying a plane into his home, PLEASE DO NOT, as he could very well have a mattress stuffed full of $100 bills, ready to purchase bitcoins ;) Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: evolve on September 10, 2012, 02:45:07 PM Oooooooor, and stay with me now, he just stole your money and has no intention of returning it.
The fact that this guy still has supporters is, quite frankly, baffling. Your money is gone, dude, and its not coming back. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: mobodick on September 10, 2012, 03:01:42 PM Something has recently come into my brain, that I am unable to let go of, as it almost seems plausible.... If he was in fact selling coins-for-cash, perhaps he's at a point now where he is having a difficult time getting money back onto/into the Exchange, in order to repurchase replacement coins on a large scale, while still remaining 'under the radar' of the IRS/AML Regs etc ? Obviously I am 'spit-balling' here....but as I said, it was an idea. So in short: If anyone was planning on flying a plane into his home, PLEASE DO NOT, as he could very well have a mattress stuffed full of $100 bills, ready to purchase bitcoins ;) STFU and don't give the man any ideas. Before you know it he'll be paying back in bits of mattress. ... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: greyhawk on September 10, 2012, 03:12:13 PM I've been trying to mine mattresscoin and I don't think I'm getting enough gigasnores on my BFL (Bed with Fluffy Linen). Is there a technician or someone who could take a look at this?
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: mobodick on September 10, 2012, 03:36:08 PM I've been trying to mine mattresscoin and I don't think I'm getting enough gigasnores on my BFL (Bed with Fluffy Linen). Is there a technician or someone who could take a look at this? Maybe you haven't stuffed it with money enough... Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: mobodick on September 10, 2012, 03:37:34 PM --- please ignore
Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: ArticMine on September 10, 2012, 04:02:51 PM does anyone have a log from what has been said by pirate on #btcst last night? I was there, and he provided no information other than stating that he was not involved in zeek rewards. Some of us do pay attention to this, and by the way I do not have a single satoshi invested directly or indirectly with pirateat40. Something tells me however that we have not yet seen the end of this pirateat40 and his manipulations or attempted manipulations of the Bitcoin market. Title: Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 28th 6:16PM EST Post by: smoothie on September 10, 2012, 07:12:15 PM Something has recently come into my brain, that I am unable to let go of, as it almost seems plausible.... If he was in fact selling coins-for-cash, perhaps he's at a point now where he is having a difficult time getting money back onto/into the Exchange, in order to repurchase replacement coins on a large scale, while still remaining 'under the radar' of the IRS/AML Regs etc ? Obviously I am 'spit-balling' here....but as I said, it was an idea. So in short: If anyone was planning on flying a plane into his home, PLEASE DO NOT, as he could very well have a mattress stuffed full of $100 bills, ready to purchase bitcoins ;) I LOLed... Reality has not set in it seems. |