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After they shoot him they promptly but a need to his dome.

Man died 1 hour later.

http://liberty.me/cops

Saying it was an 'accident' most likely doesnt disqualify them for what was probably a bounty on the guys head they wanted to collect.

Police are out of control in the states. Why did they even need to tase him when he's on the ground and seemingly complying? Does anyone know what gun and taser the police carry or have pictures of them? I want to see if they're the same shape or whatever because I don't understand how you could get them confused.

Apparently the guy who shot the suspect wasn't a police officer:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a0_1428891056

I had no idea they allowed rich civilian donors to play police officers without the regular formal training. It was a disaster waiting to happen, and now it happened.

What I also find strange is that he wasn't able to tell the difference between a gun and a Taser. But I guess that might be down to the fact that he isn't even trained to be a police officer.

daym, like they said if you have so much money, you can do anything that you want.

What the hell? That's a thing?

Apparently is in America. Money buys you everything over there. No doubt he'll be able to afford a good lawyer to get him off too. No idea why they would let him run loose with actual weapons. I bet he couldn't wait to use one of them and got over-excited about trying to catch a 'bad guy'.

What does it mean accidently ::) , c'mon guys all the cops are bastard. Another victim of a cops, maybe we must start to call them terrorist because they bring to the citizen a sort of terror.

 ??? Another person murdered by the police, and also in this case it was not necessary (also if it was accidently) they could stop it and handcuff him easily.

Some of the murders by police may be racial but one can not generalize it. A cop is also a normal individual and he/she also has to think about his/her own safety. It should be judged on case to case basis.

Yes I think cops should be trained in similar situations so they can handle it better and not by killing someone. They should implement more psychological tests aswell.

Lolwut? That guy PAYS to be the cop? What for? To feel some power over people? America fuck yeah!
That's a nonsense. How it's possible?

It really looks like they shot him when he was already on the ground. It's hard to get anything from the video but the suspect looked fine when he was running and being caught by the cop, so the shot must've happened later. He wasn't threatening them and was unarmed, weapons should've never been used in such situation.

The weapon should be only the last possibility, why murder/kill a person instead to chase it and stop. C'mon 4-5 cops against one and they can stop him without kill him ::) (also if it accidentally, if it was an incident who has shoot should pay and we know the cops will never pay for its mistakes).

This doesn't justify shooting people in the back when they present no danger at all.


He was.


They obviously just like shooting people. They've got stun guns and batons, right? If the people are unarmed use them if there's a present danger but there usually isn't even that half of the time.

Exactly why murder him?


I think one day people will get really bored and start a revolution against the system and the cops will in the first rank.

Where is this nonsense about pay to play cops coming from? This isn't true. Let's stick to the facts. He was a reserve deputy sheriff, perhaps because of his age (73 years old), but nevertheless he was a trained law officer.

And btw, he was charged with manslaughter today.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/updated-district-attorney-steve-kunzweiler-charges-reserve-deputy-with-second/article_883e0747-46e9-595d-9c4f-e1cb4fdabbf4.html?mode=story (http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/updated-district-attorney-steve-kunzweiler-charges-reserve-deputy-with-second/article_883e0747-46e9-595d-9c4f-e1cb4fdabbf4.html?mode=story)

This is F*cking crazy! SO if I give the cops enough money I can be a cop on the weekends?  Who gives this untrained old guy a gun and lets him play cop anyways? Even if he wasn't a cop the other cops are complete dicks and out ofline . Guy gets shot, the other cop puts his knee on the dudes dome. Guy is saying he cant breath and the cop replied "F*ck your breath". This is what the militarization of the police force does, it creates a us vs them mentality and them are treated below humans. It is the same principle with soldiers in Iraq, the decensitizing of the people you are fighting. No big deal with accidently killed that guy he was jsut a dumb ass haji.

No, this isn't true. See the link I posted directly above (or below!) for context. He was a trained law officer assigned to the Violent Crimes Task Force and had specialized training in homicide investigations.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/updated-district-attorney-steve-kunzweiler-charges-reserve-deputy-with-second/article_883e0747-46e9-595d-9c4f-e1cb4fdabbf4.html?mode=story (http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepage1/updated-district-attorney-steve-kunzweiler-charges-reserve-deputy-with-second/article_883e0747-46e9-595d-9c4f-e1cb4fdabbf4.html?mode=story)

Thanks for clearing that up, I was gonna say that is madness.

My favorite part of that article

Sheriff Stanley Glanz described Reserve Deputy Robert Charles "Bob" Bates as a longtime friend who made "an error" last week when he fatally shot an unarmed man trying to flee deputies during an undercover operation to retrieve stolen guns.


"He made an error," Glanz said. "How many errors are made in an operating room every week?"

An investigator retained by the Sheriff's Office found that Bates violated no policies. The case is now in the hands of the District Attorney's Office.

Asked if he thought the shooting was justified, Glanz said, "That is a hard word for me to answer."


What a bullshit excuse, if any citizen "accidently" shot someone it would be murder and the sheriff would be talking about how if you shoot someone you need to pay the price. They love nailing huge trumped on charges on people over petty shit. I was reading the other day somehwere in Florida a kid changed the windows start up screen on a teacher's computer he didnt like to two guys kissing. They are now charging him with felony computer crimes because somewhere on that computer was encrypted test files.

And the last thing I bolded, does he mean the guy that was shot was a piece of shit in his eyes so it was somewhat justified?

This is getting pretty crazy. These guys they are on Grand Theft Auto V or something, to be shooting random people like that.

Could you quote the relevant parts of the article? I couldn't find it with a quick read.

Look right under the guy's photo at the top of the article, that's where I got the information from:
"RESERVE DEPUTY Bob Bates: He was assigned to the Violent Crimes Task Force and had specialized training in homicide investigations."

Also, this from the article:

So the program he operates under is an accredited law enforcement program. I've never heard of a "reserve deputy program" before, but it seems like part time police officers.

Yeah, the way the Sheriff is defending this guy sounds like a couple of Good Ole Boys looking out for each other. His refusal to answer the question is probably because he knows he's in deep trouble. I'm glad the prosecutor had enough sense to bring charges, because the "independent" review by the police department shockingly found no violation of the law!

I love the way the other officer responded: F*ck your breath :P

This is really bad. We are talking about a dead man. He might have a family, kids and parents who were waiting for him.

Even if he did survive from that tragedy, he won't be coming home to his family coz he will go to jail for selling illegal firearms.

Ok, thanks for the info. It isn't as bad as previously thought then (as in, they are seemingly not sending rich guys onto the streets with no training after all). Of course, killing the guy is still bad.

What type of fucking person that carries a gun can't remember which side of their body, left or right, it is on?  These people shouldn't be allowed out of their house, let alone to carry a firearm.  Give the "cop" the death penalty.

theres to much of this happening now you dont hear of this in many other countries why is it only america?

Because the America is (supposed to be) the land of freedom  ::) or it is that I have heard about it in the past years. However I agree with you, those things (may) happen also in the other countries, not only in the USA.

This is precisely why we need body cams on every active officer during their shifts. The person who shot the person knew he messed up. Without that footage, he could have easily manipulated the situation to put the blame on the suspect rather than himself. Seeing as the suspect died, there would be no way to oppose.

Exactly! The fact that most municipalities are soooo slow to adopt the technology that would COMPLETELY EXONERATE their officers IF they were innocent makes me think that there is something fishy. I mean how hard would it be??

A interesting/sad twist possibly is showing up now. Read the article on CNN- http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/tulsa-shooting-robert-bates-volunteer-deputy/

It sounds like he possibly bought his way into being a cop by donating.   No matter what a sad story indeed.

It's indeed s sad story. Government and the department should do something about it so that incident like these should not repeat in future.

Do you think they are worried about that situation? In my honest opinion I think they aren't, because ever time it happens something like that and the 'cop' does not pay for his mistake. They should be more prepared in their work.

I would think they are worried about the fallout.  The more they seem to investigate the worse it sounds.  At first sounded like a horrible mistake.  But if it's true he bought his way onto police... makes you wonder on training.

I think it will continue to get airtime on news which will keep it in public eye.  Eventually I predict some kind of lawsuit and most likely settlement that will be under wraps.

And how can be they more prepared in their work? I think they are the best compared to cops of all the countries around the world.

On the new's it sounds like they cannot find all the documents showing trained properly.  This case sounds worse and worse. 

I predict a big cash settlement no matter outcome at this point.

Huh?  Who sez?  Maybe, maybe not.  Probably wise to expect the entire "investigation" to be as flawed as the shooting.

It will have so much of the public eye it will keep it more honest.  For example coming out hes a big time donor, and also some of his training papers are "lost".  I'm sure those would not have came out if it was not for public eye.

I have found this video:

https://i.imgur.com/bVgrOCD.png (https://www.facebook.com/mckinley.moyer/videos/10204465200742994/)


http://facebook.com/robhustle

The clip of them breaking the door reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iR2qXq9Rw

It doesn't always go smooth ;)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!! And the guy inside just opens it to see what's going on! :D

That video is pretty great when guy just opens door.   I cant figure out why they didnt just break the glass beside door .... reach in and unlock.   When you cant break through think it out :)

Yeah the video on youtube it is pretty funny but I hope you all understand the meaning of the other video on FB. What is the purpose to hit someone that he is handcuffed? I think there isn't the necessity to hit him or am I wrong?

There isn't, I think most people will agree with that, this is why that news article about handcuffs that can drug or shock you while you're in custody worry me the most, police officers are just completely out of control now and the politicians obviously don't give a shit because they use the old line of "If you have nothing to hide" along with others who support them.

This case just blows me away more and more.  New's on this  story - http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/21/oklahoma-deputy-bates-pleads-not-guilty/26119863/

He is being allowed to leave country, for Bahamas vacation! So not out of state.... but allowed to leave country.  Amazing.