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I e-mailed myself the address before I encrypted it...  I sent a 200 milli bits there.... 

Are they gone?

Why would they? Did you delete anything or have you lost your phone?

It doesn't make sense. What did you encrypt? why would you encrypt "an address"?

Haven't deleted anything... It might be a differnet wallet and not my new phone.. I was pretty positive it was my new phone though.   I figured as soon as I encrypted it that it scrapped the old wallet address thus.. I don't have the private key ne more.

Did you make a backup? Use that if you have it. But I'm not sure what you encrypted. Was it a public key?

I encrypted the wallet.  Well encrypted it / made a back up.  I was thinking it made a totally new wallet thus the old wallet is gone.  I am hoping I am wrong.

I do have that backup on my phone though but it's the same wallet.. I will try it and see what happens.

Ahhh I was wrong on what I did...

I send BTC to a paper wallet then imported it to my phone and recorded the paper wallet's address as my phone address by mistake :S.... 

The wallets don't keep the private keys they have swept in memory eh..?

I didn't actually understand what exactly is the problem. Can you answer these?

1) Which wallet are you using?
2) After you imported, you saved the public key in wallet and deleted private key?

Didn't get what you were trying to say but can figure out a few things, so you sent the money to paper wallet right?
And then how did you import the paper wallet to your mobile? Did you import the address only(without the private key)? Or did you import it with its private key?
Although it doesn't matter how did you import it, the balance should have been visible.
And if you sent the money to paper wallet and still have that paper wallet's address and private key intact with you(generally written on the paper wallet) then your money can be recovered.
Just open a blockchain.info wallet and import the key there(google out for instructions, blockchain.info is well documented), doing this will recover your wallet.

I depreciate using Blockchain.info for spending coins from a paper wallet especially if you are reusing. Either use Mycelium or import it to an Android wallet like Bither.

Hum... Version 4.24,  https://github.com/schildbach/bitcoin-wallet.

That help?

It was an actual peice of paper... I threw it out.. :S..  Pretty sure I am screwed lol, o well.  I sent coins to it from my one phone and imporated it with the other.. alas I recorded that address as my "new phone" address.. bad move.  Just thought maybe my old phone stored the private key it scanned but I have my doubts.

I really had no intention to reuse the wallet.

I mainly dislike this wallet because it is so slow...

Highly recommend either blockchain.info or even better mycelium. it's a great wallet for android :)

I've heard a lot about mycelium.  Blockchain has way to many things required to log in for my daily wallet use.

When you import private keys, it will be stored in root folder. I don't know if they removed private key from it. Can you tell me what exactly is your problem? Is there any other doubts?

I should try Mycelium again. I tried it quickly once but the dark theme put me off a lot. I usually like dark themes but somehow it didn't feel right for a wallet. Maybe there's an option to change? Anyway, I'll give it another try.

Been using Andreas Schildbach's wallet for almost a year now, and haven't got any problems so far. Reading from OP and the progressions of the thread, I still couldn't figure out what exactly is your problem. ???

There seems to be a bit of guessing going on in this thread.... regardless OP, you are unfortunately right. :(

The Schildbach wallet will not import private keys. It can sweep the current UTXOs, after which it discards the private key.

Regarding whether or not the Schildbach wallet is solid: I certainly think so. While there may be other wallets that offer some useful features not offered by this one, the Schildbach wallet offers superior privacy compared to any other android wallet (that I'm aware of). Only breadwallet for iOS offers similar privacy features. Edit: I forgot about Bither, sorry....

Humz.. I'll take a gander then.


Only problem is  I am a tool and sent BTC to an address with out double checking LOL. I thought it was my new phones address but it was the address of a paper wallet (from bitaddress.org) I was playing with moving BTC from one phone to another.

So this is what happend, I sent bits from my phone to a paper wallet, I swept the wallet with the other phone, I recorded that address as my new phone address(super tool move).  I sent bits to the paper wallet address(99% sure I burnt the wallet LMAO).

I will take a gander in the root folder but I've pretty much accepted I derped it and they are gone.

Thanks for the help guys!

electrum or blockchain
recomended wallet to use.

Can you tell what's the problem in using blockchain.info? I am really interested if you can explain it to me.

And I don't think he still has the private keys.

A lot of effort to log in for my spending wallet. 

I use:

Bitcoin-qt
bitaddress.org (on an offline harddrive, no USBs ever touch it, move stuff off it via CD)
and this android wallet.  (Andreas Schildbach's wallet) I guess it is called lol. (This one it would suck to get hacked/stolen/lost but I treat it as spending so if it gets owned I don't mind to much)

I have a blockchain account it needs that login number thingy.. odds are I've lost the 20 milibits on there :S..  Who knows I'll try to figure it out another time.  It has been ages since I've used it though.

There will be downtime and also they have a good history bugs and resulting in big loose. They cover it but that doesn't make a wallet good. Last time, because of reused R values, many BTC were lost. I am sure it would have been higher if the Bitcoins went to a wrong guy but they were lucky it went to a honest guy who sent Bitcoins to them. [1]

Their explorer is corrupted sometimes and because of it, we can't spend coins from wallet. [2]

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.0;all
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123726.0;all

Well yeah. They keep on getting bugs but those bugs can arise in any of the mini wallets that don't need you to download the blockchain(correct me if i am wrong), and basically its a good thing that they cover your loss(they did it when I found a bug and paid me a bounty and covered my loss), and its good that many people use it and so bugs are found easily(than the other micro wallets). Also you can use it on any platform.
If you want something foolproof(as they say it) you should download the whole blockchain and then run your wallet.

Update: since the last update it's a lot faster!

They also have downtimes. Isn't it better to use an SPV or HD client? There are manu clients which isn't buggy like theirs.

I've been using the wallet, albeit the TestNet version, and I have to say I find it quite good. I haven't experienced any of the issues people complain about. Feels like a great little project to me!

I don't understand why ppl still still trust bc.i. They've had more than their fair share of bugs[1][2][3], some of them serious and/or inept which have lead to actual btc loss.

All three of the wallets I mentioned above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1024575.msg11096020#msg11096020) are SPV and decentralized: the Schildbach wallet, breadwallet, and Bither. Electrum is also SPV, but it's not as well decentralized/worse privacy (no bloom filters). Greenbits is also SPV; it adds 2FA in exchange for being centralized, and it's a good (if somewhat confusing) option.

[1]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9888800#msg9888800 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9888800#msg9888800)
[2]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9940868#msg9940868 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581411.msg9940868#msg9940868)
[3]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/663#issuecomment-64975087 (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/663#issuecomment-64975087)

1) They covered users' looses if anything happens.
2) They are well-known and trusted.
3) Importantly, it is an online wallet.

Most people usually don't check how "secure" is a wallet. They check how "easy" is to spend from a wallet or to access it.


Adslot in this forum about electrum:

I can't get myself to try phone wallets, they are too insecure for my taste :/
Hope in future it will change

i think that a secure wallet for android/ios could be greenaddress wallet, with multisig, two-factor autentication and hardware wallet support  ;)

They have in the past covered users' losses when the fault was bc.i's, but nobody knows if they would have been able to do so during the last big one if not for johoe's saving 870btc on behalf of bc.i, nor if they'll be able to afford their next big one (which of course I hope will never happen!).


That's the whole problem. People who don't know any better trust that bc.i is both honest and competent. While the former seems likely IMO, the latter does not, and you need to have both to prevent loss.


I agree, and that's what I find unfortunate. There are more secure online alternatives.


Electrum's model would have some security benefits over a P2P SPV model if the Electrum servers were required to use SSL, but they aren't. As it is, I see no security benefits. P2P clients d/l headers & merkle branches from 8-ish full nodes (out of thousands globally), and Electrum clients d/l headers & merkle branches from 8(?)-ish Electrum servers (out of 14 globally). Could you or Adslot be more specific on why you think otherwise?

Electrum's model does have a privacy disadvantage when compared to P2P SPV—AFAIK, Electrum doesn't use bloom filters for monitoring addresses.

I like GreenAddress/Greenbits too, FWIW, although I do find it a bit confusing for beginners. Of course for mobile use, its 2FA is only effective if you have a separate phone/laptop/PC for the 2FA bit.