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Title: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Coincomm on August 24, 2012, 03:36:21 PM
http://www.infowars.com/empire-state-building-shooting-more-fodder-for-gun-grabbers/


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Charlie Prime on August 24, 2012, 03:46:22 PM
Apparently this guy was unaware that carrying a gun in New York City is HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This person needs to be made aware that he violated a huge number of regulations, laws, and employer policies!





Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: vampire on August 24, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
http://www.infowars.com/empire-state-building-shooting-more-fodder-for-gun-grabbers/

Well looks like he didn't kill anyone at the scene, he shot his ex coworker earlier in the morning.

So it;s a victory for Bloomberg, since he play the tunes that NYPD will protect everyone. And in this case, they did.




Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Coincomm on August 24, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
http://www.infowars.com/empire-state-building-shooting-more-fodder-for-gun-grabbers/

Well looks like he didn't kill anyone at the scene, he shot his ex coworker earlier in the morning.

So it;s a victory for Bloomberg, since he play the tunes that NYPD will protect everyone. And in this case, they did.


There are reports that the Police injured a lot of bystanders while shooting the suspect.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Littleshop on August 25, 2012, 04:05:22 AM
http://www.infowars.com/empire-state-building-shooting-more-fodder-for-gun-grabbers/

Well looks like he didn't kill anyone at the scene, he shot his ex coworker earlier in the morning.

So it;s a victory for Bloomberg, since he play the tunes that NYPD will protect everyone. And in this case, they did.


There are reports that the Police injured a lot of bystanders while shooting the suspect.

Yes.  Actually the police are the ones who did the mass shooting.  The original shooter only shot his intended victim and fired no more bullets. 

http://gawker.com/5937745/the-empire-state-building-shooting-was-mostly-perpetrated-by-cops


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: nimda on August 25, 2012, 04:14:39 AM
Now this, this is why we need more gun laws. ::)
We can stop the shooter and the police in one go!


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: FirstAscent on August 25, 2012, 04:16:20 AM
http://www.infowars.com/empire-state-building-shooting-more-fodder-for-gun-grabbers/

Well looks like he didn't kill anyone at the scene, he shot his ex coworker earlier in the morning.

So it;s a victory for Bloomberg, since he play the tunes that NYPD will protect everyone. And in this case, they did.


There are reports that the Police injured a lot of bystanders while shooting the suspect.

Yes.  Actually the police are the ones who did the mass shooting.  The original shooter only shot his intended victim and fired no more bullets. 

Correction to your propaganda: The original shooter murdered someone. The police caused graze wounds, and flakes of concrete to hit some people. One person was actually hit with a bullet.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: URSAY on August 25, 2012, 04:24:53 AM
I don't want to make a joke out of this...

...but the guy was a graphic designer.  I read an article which showed his work and it was all about pirates.

Seriously.  Still trying to find the damn link...


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: myrkul on August 25, 2012, 04:30:26 AM
Yes.  Actually the police are the ones who did the mass shooting.  The original shooter only shot his intended victim and fired no more bullets. 

Correction to your propaganda: The original shooter murdered someone. The police caused graze wounds, and flakes of concrete to hit some people. One person was actually hit with a bullet.

Correction to your distortion of the facts: The original shooter murdered someone, and the police murdered someone and caused graze wounds to, and flakes of concrete to hit, a total of 9 other people.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Bitware on August 25, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: vampire on August 25, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.



Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Bitware on August 25, 2012, 01:55:11 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.



lol no it was tongue in cheek.

If guns are outlawed there can be no gun crime, which is a completely rediculous concept.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Coincomm on August 25, 2012, 02:00:46 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.


Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: vampire on August 25, 2012, 02:48:55 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.


Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

Lol wrong. I can easily own a gun in NYC.


Now if you mean a concealed carry permit...


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Herodes on August 25, 2012, 03:00:52 PM
Japan has very  strict gun laws, and less dead people pr. year from shootings. Look it up. The american way is horrible.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Coincomm on August 25, 2012, 03:04:59 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.


Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

Lol wrong. I can easily own a gun in NYC.


Now if you mean a concealed carry permit...


An in-home gun permit takes months.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: nimda on August 25, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Japan has very  strict gun laws, and less dead people pr. year from shootings. Look it up. The american way is horrible.
America already has a SHITLOAD of guns. It's too late to ban them now.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on August 25, 2012, 03:29:58 PM
Japan has very  strict gun laws, and less dead people pr. year from shootings. Look it up. The american way is horrible.
America already has a SHITLOAD of guns. It's too late to ban them now.

Switzerland and some north european countries have about the same amount of guns per habitants of US and extremely low gun killings.
Even Canada makes a stark difference.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRThQLSgHdXknZlOcpl9R1JTntzcCc6ie4CZ3rD7fVjpRWAkZoW8w


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Herodes on August 25, 2012, 03:33:12 PM
Japan has very  strict gun laws, and less dead people pr. year from shootings. Look it up. The american way is horrible.
America already has a SHITLOAD of guns. It's too late to ban them now.

It would never be too late. :)


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Coincomm on August 25, 2012, 04:10:18 PM
Japan has very  strict gun laws, and less dead people pr. year from shootings. Look it up. The american way is horrible.
America already has a SHITLOAD of guns. It's too late to ban them now.

It would never be too late. :)

I hope you enjoy a new American revolution.

http://www.history.army.mil/images/artphoto/pripos/revwar/BHill.jpg


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: Littleshop on August 25, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.


Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

False.  It is harder to get a gun in NYC legally but certainly not impossible.  The permit for premises only is not that hard to get. 

What makes NYC have a low gun crime rate (and it does) is not the laws restricting legal guns, it is the HARSH PENALTIES for using a gun in a crime.  Unlike some other jurisdictions, NYC has tough sentencing as well and keeps gun using criminals in jail for longer times then other jurisdictions. 

The message is simple, if you want a lower gun crime rate, treat gun using criminals harshly and do not restrict legal ownership.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: mdude77 on August 26, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
Apparently this guy was unaware that carrying a gun in New York City is HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This person needs to be made aware that he violated a huge number of regulations, laws, and employer policies!

If there were no guns in existence, then a no gun policy would work well.  Then we'd have a no spear, no bow, no crossbow policy, unless you're the police or military, of course.  Then we'd have crossbow free zones...

If guns kill people, we'd better disarm the military, police, and bodyguards, because those are mass murders waiting to happen!

M


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: 420 on August 28, 2012, 12:22:40 AM
I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?



Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.


Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

False.  It is harder to get a gun in NYC legally but certainly not impossible.  The permit for premises only is not that hard to get. 

What makes NYC have a low gun crime rate (and it does) is not the laws restricting legal guns, it is the HARSH PENALTIES for using a gun in a crime.  Unlike some other jurisdictions, NYC has tough sentencing as well and keeps gun using criminals in jail for longer times then other jurisdictions. 

The message is simple, if you want a lower gun crime rate, treat gun using criminals harshly and do not restrict legal ownership.

I was in NYC. I had a gun. End of some discussion


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: RodeoX on August 28, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance. :(


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: vampire on August 28, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance. :(

Not gun experts, better than average. A gun aficionado, like yourself, most like likely shoots much better.

One thing which I've learned about NYPD:

They used to have revolver with 12lb triggers, but for some retarded reason all of their current glocks require the same trigger.


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: 420 on August 28, 2012, 09:15:38 PM
Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance. :(

Not gun experts, better than average. A gun aficionado, like yourself, most like likely shoots much better.

One thing which I've learned about NYPD:

They used to have revolver with 12lb triggers, but for some retarded reason all of their current glocks require the same trigger.


12lb glock trigger?


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: vampire on August 28, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
12lb glock trigger?

Correct.

edit:


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/08/foghorn/nypds-choice-of-firearm-may-have-contributed-to-the-terrible-shooting/


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: myrkul on August 28, 2012, 09:47:09 PM

Isn't that a little much?


Title: Re: NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot
Post by: RodeoX on August 29, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
Yes it's crazy. With that kind of trigger pull you are going to consistently miss your target and, in the case of an officer, endanger those around you.  As an example of what a mess that rule has been; Kahr arms made a bunch of guns to meet NYPD standards. I think it was a min of 6lbs.? Then they changed the rules again and stuck Kahr with a bunch of guns no serious shooter wants.
P.S. you may be able to pick up a deal on one of these guns online.