NYC Gun Laws Ignored; 10 Unarmed People Shot

[Littleshop]

I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?

Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.

Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

False.  It is harder to get a gun in NYC legally but certainly not impossible.  The permit for premises only is not that hard to get. 

What makes NYC have a low gun crime rate (and it does) is not the laws restricting legal guns, it is the HARSH PENALTIES for using a gun in a crime.  Unlike some other jurisdictions, NYC has tough sentencing as well and keeps gun using criminals in jail for longer times then other jurisdictions. 

The message is simple, if you want a lower gun crime rate, treat gun using criminals harshly and do not restrict legal ownership.

[mdude77]

Apparently this guy was unaware that carrying a gun in New York City is HIGHLY ILLEGAL.

This person needs to be made aware that he violated a huge number of regulations, laws, and employer policies!

If there were no guns in existence, then a no gun policy would work well.  Then we'd have a no spear, no bow, no crossbow policy, unless you're the police or military, of course.  Then we'd have crossbow free zones...

If guns kill people, we'd better disarm the military, police, and bodyguards, because those are mass murders waiting to happen!

M

[420]

I dont understand...

Guns are illegal there. How can there be shootings?

Because guns aren't illegal there. LOL.

Nobody gets issued a gun permit in NYC except for the politically connected.

False.  It is harder to get a gun in NYC legally but certainly not impossible.  The permit for premises only is not that hard to get. 

What makes NYC have a low gun crime rate (and it does) is not the laws restricting legal guns, it is the HARSH PENALTIES for using a gun in a crime.  Unlike some other jurisdictions, NYC has tough sentencing as well and keeps gun using criminals in jail for longer times then other jurisdictions. 

The message is simple, if you want a lower gun crime rate, treat gun using criminals harshly and do not restrict legal ownership.

I was in NYC. I had a gun. End of some discussion

[RodeoX]

Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance.

[vampire]

Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance.

Not gun experts, better than average. A gun aficionado, like yourself, most like likely shoots much better.

One thing which I've learned about NYPD:

They used to have revolver with 12lb triggers, but for some retarded reason all of their current glocks require the same trigger.

[420]

Why do people always think cops are gun experts? I shoot my gun more in a month than an NYC cop shoots in a year.
These cops were scared shitless when they saw a gun pointed at them. So they just started blasting away with little regard for bystanders. I think they should loose their badge for this incident. Super poor performance.

Not gun experts, better than average. A gun aficionado, like yourself, most like likely shoots much better.

One thing which I've learned about NYPD:

They used to have revolver with 12lb triggers, but for some retarded reason all of their current glocks require the same trigger.

12lb glock trigger?

[vampire]

12lb glock trigger?

Correct.

edit:


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/08/foghorn/nypds-choice-of-firearm-may-have-contributed-to-the-terrible-shooting/

[myrkul]

12lb glock trigger?

Correct.

Isn't that a little much?

[RodeoX]

12lb glock trigger?

Correct.

Isn't that a little much?

Yes it's crazy. With that kind of trigger pull you are going to consistently miss your target and, in the case of an officer, endanger those around you.  As an example of what a mess that rule has been; Kahr arms made a bunch of guns to meet NYPD standards. I think it was a min of 6lbs.? Then they changed the rules again and stuck Kahr with a bunch of guns no serious shooter wants.
P.S. you may be able to pick up a deal on one of these guns online.