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Anyone have any idea what the new BFL ASIC device's will look like?

Does it make a difference ?

Well since butterfly does not post much news at all., instead of kicking rocks all day we might speculate a bit on the design
so much money going into this it wont hurt to imagine.

sort of cubes?

I for one imagine it to be a hyper-cube design with a spinning torus suspended by magnets in the center.
It's powered by a magnetic resonance sender that is place between 1 and 50 feet away.
The usb connection is wireless of course.

 :P

gaze into the crystal ball, my friend. What do you see? :P

It's a bit bigger then the original single...

http://www.mentallandscape.com/Tesla_fig13.jpg

AY CARAMBA!! I see a UFO up in the sky sending radio waves down :P

At the end of the day, the ASIC chips are just a new chip, so couldn't it be the same as the BFL Single, but with a different chip?

I thought the power draw is expected to be similar, so I would imagine everything else would be similar plus/minus 10%, so that's what I'm expecting.

BFL just announced a new ASIC miner:

The Bamboo

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/Bigblock462/usb_fountain.jpg

Expected hashrate is 500 GH/s  :o

Watercooled & soothing sound  8)

Cost  ???    Priceless  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Ahh, Watercooling in a relaxing functional form.

The new units will be even more aesthetically pleasing than the originals. 

Pics or it didn't happen.

why? I mean you have seen some of the, er.. shall we say.. "function over aesthetics" gpu/fpga rigs. I dont think many care about looks.

my single is "cute" looking according to my wife. until it is turned on and is the noise kicks in. so now its the cutest thing in the basement where no one can see it. or hear it.

please, instead of aesthetics, how about stackable. and quiet.

The updated FAQ on your website list it as almost the same dimensions as the current Single. So they won't be using the same cases?

The original single was more than visually pleasing. The focus if not already, should be on reaching performance claims, and more importantly having inventory in stock. Especially inventory that can ship quickly. Maybe order limits should be considered for singles and cofee warmers to allow more people to have access to the product.

Josh was good enough to update the FAQ!


The Single was more than pretty enough. Look at the competition in comparison!
Spend that money on locknuts.

May I suggest  BFL write out an international design competition, give participants 6 or 12 months to submit designs?
Im a gpu miner hoping to buy some time :)

Originals  ?

So they are improved FPGAs ? Or do you already have some ASICs and are you going to improve on those ?

 ;)

Protoss reference?  :)

Will it require liquid hydrogen to cool the superconducting magnets, or will it use new high Tc superconductors and liquid nitrogen?  It will use superconducting magnets, right?  Otherwise how is it going to suspect the spinning torus?  Also, what will the fusion reactor run on?  I'm assuming it won't just run on garbage like the one in Back to the Future - that's clearly not possible in real life - so will it need a special fuel?  We need answers to these questions now, otherwise how are we to make estimates of mining profitability?

there you go:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--8cquRExMX0/T5DFVfvzr9I/AAAAAAAAAHU/pi1NEtf-krA/s1600/blackBox%2Bcopy.jpg



edit: random black box - not, in fact BFL hardware

The dimensions are going to be quite a bit different than the current single.  What page are you looking at that is quoting the dimensions as being similar to the current single?

http://www.butterflylabs.com/product-details/ Says that the current Single is:

http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/ Fourth from the bottom:

This made me assume they would use the same enclosure, but you've said elsewhere that they will use a new enclosure.

Wonderful! Getting real physical dimensions is a good start... Add in power/heat, and we'll have some useful planning data for the Bitforce SC. Getting the same for the 1TH/MaxiRig would be great.

The current single is about 110x110x80 ... I will have to review that part of the website. 

For the SC, that is the projected dimensions right now, but that is subject to change.  I am pushing for a slightly larger, but more aesthetically pleasing outer shell at the moment.

What about the jalapeno? It's really hard to sell something that doesn't exist, if you can't even show what it will look like you know!

I'm guessing it will be about the same dimensions as every other USB coffee warmer out on the market?  ;D ;D ;D

And ya, it's really hard to get 5000 orders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.msg987282#msg987282) with no pictures, isn't it?

There was talk of an 'internal PSU' for the SC single.

I hope that each SC single does not need to be plugged directly into the wall and instead will take a 12v supply.

The internal PSU bit on the website was a mistake.  It's since been corrected.  It will be an external PSU.

Concentrated magic, with a varying amount of 7970 gpu chips.

And unicorn blood.  It's one of our secret ingredients.

Not so secret anymore  ;)

He said one of, we may never know the true secrets.

Any details on PSU size/voltage/etc?

1.21 Gigawatts! At 0.25V, of course.

So is this then going to be the same system as the current Singles, whereby there's a 12V power brick for every unit?

Is it going to use the exact same voltage and barrel connector size/type as the current Single also? I would very much like to hook up all the units to an ATX PSU - in fact I'd have done this already with parts supplied by Cablez if I knew said cables would be compatible with the new unit.

If the power supply for the new SC single ends up being the same as used on the old singles, I hope they'll let us keep the old power supplies when we trade in the old singles.  That would save on shipping.

I'm set!

http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1708/mf_haarp2_f.jpg
Haap's array can beam up to 3.6 megawatts of energy into the sky.

But can you post the shell design of the jalapeno, so I can order one? I won't if it looks like a cupwarmer btw.

Silverhttp://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/437367543/-font-b-USB-b-font-font-b-CUP-b-font-font-b-WARMER-b-font.summ.jpg
Redhttp://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/542771942/portable_cup_warmer_with_usb_v0.jpg_200x200.jpg
Blackhttps://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREQrGRZW_C717Nb0GcIqv8lFEbganav1Txk-IiFuGKSEIlH3vh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evAFZKg5wpo


or maybe :)

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTB4u-ajpbiquE-PHD0u_5jvs7N84l63ERTT-Al-VgmbS8KwHzVhttps://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShyRXSE3BGpZp20H8C4_-V5SqDnwcfp-uVZOriZDN3MFFEJX0F3ghttps://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTV2OErw9lOjUA1o-Vma1XIIs4nkPaDIR_y9fd-hxbfHty6EOEI

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/USB_Beverage_Cooler.jpg/220px-USB_Beverage_Cooler.jpg

White http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qVsj0V9Ctg&feature=related
White Tested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmoivttof5g&feature=related
Black Tested http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=cMPd9DyTpKg <-- 111F Hot Setting  71F Cool Setting (Would heat up the asic so not recommended) :D

Whatever the case I suspect that it may be using Peltier Devices for Thermoelectric (http://www.tetech.com/Peltier-Thermoelectric-Cooler-Modules.html) Cooling/Heating

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Peltierelement_16x16.jpg/800px-Peltierelement_16x16.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

Edit: Disclaimer "all photos" and "videos" presented in this post are hypothetical representations of BFL future jalapeno product based on my own augmented reality (https://www.google.ca/search?q=augmented+reality&hl=en&rlz=1C1ASUT_enCA440CA440&prmd=imvnsla&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=UA5LULbyE4nwiwLMj4HoBg&ved=0CEEQsAQ), and may not have any relation with actual reality.

Can I get a red one?

What interests me is have the colours represent the status of the device. Silver or Blue when its not crunching, Red when its crunching, and Black when its not plugged in or lost power :)

LED's FTW <---- makes managing an group of these fairly easy.

Example of ASUS Radeon HD 5870 Matrix "LOAD LED"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaUoj3s8kDw&feature=related

That is actually a good idea.  However, as they are suppoosed to start shipping in 3 weeks, I doubt that it could be incorporated into the design!

I assume that they are still on track to stary shipping in Oct?  I havent heard any different.

End of October to early November was the last offici BFL update

So November now!

Pretty sure it was always late October.

Let us leave the Jalapeno aside. It can only warm a cup of coffee, so nothing great.

Look at leaked image of Single SC prototype (or is it MiniRigSC?):
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjA5WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqJ,!lgE9qduHUoTBPkD7V2FPg~~48_72.JPG
Hot and ready for cooking!  ;)

The Jalapeno's coffee warming ability is kind a secondary focus and of efficacious it might be is somewhat dubious... but it will hash, oh yes. :)

As far as power on the singles go, we are going with a different power brick, but your old ones should still be compatible with the new units.

Can you tell us what process you're using for these chips, eg 90nm SOI?

This is interesting. I could have sworn they said it would have an internal power supply. But their website is down (related to the godaddy outage?) currently so I can't check.
At least we can power the things with our efficient PC power supplies.

The bfl Site is up.

Ok, so can we look forward to the same industrial design?

This is really a dealbreaker for me, so you should provide pictures!

The real question is why aren't you, for you it's win/win?!

yes please!!!

I --love-- this idea!

You'd better make sure it doesn't look like an Apple product (rectangular with rounded corners).  Otherwise, you might get sued for patent infringement!