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What is there to invest Bitcoins in without having to cash out to fiat first?

I was looking for ways to buy physical gold (held in bank), stocks/shares, stuff like that, but options seem very limited.

Any ideas?

if you want to have bitcoin without using fiat, you can try mining, or some altcoin(always by mining)

or with some altcoin that do a giveaway

Sorry maybe I wasnt clear with my post :)

I want to spend my bitcoins on other investments to diversify a bit

eg pay for physical gold using my bitcoin


edit: but ideally I was thinking a certificate of ownership for gold held in swiss banks. Not just buying gold coins in the post.

assets which ownership is held digitally would be ideal (think certificates of ownership)

think services like this:

https://www.bullionvault.com/

something that can be invested in, and then sold for fiat if wanted in a few years time without having to take delivery and keep a bunch of assets lying around the house.

oh i get it, you need to buy virtual assets with bitcoin, maybe this is what you want? https://bullionbitcoin.com/faqs

i can't find many others

p.s. actually it seems that they deliver physical gold too..mmmh

that looks very interesting, thankyou.

The rates on bullion aren't bad, even when delivered at £50 postage

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1029179.msg11131373#msg11131373

anyone try bitcoin lending?

take a look at ARCH  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831777.0

the coins represent shares in the the ARCH Network companies, when there sales profits go toward market buying arch coins as a way of paying out dividends to share holders. 

http://moby.io/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774359.0
Deposit your bitcoin to earn bitcoin interesets.

Funding cool projects or lending money to interesting ideas might be possible. I'm not sure how much funding something Boost.VC needs but participating in those rounds might be good if you've got the BTC to participate.

A faucet. Many people who open faucet and earn more Bitcoin from there. However sometime faucet can also fail. It depend mostly on your payout and advertising.

There are a lot of scams risks around crypto world. Be aware of them.  Always research before investing your hard earned bit[Suspicious link removed]d luck for you!

loaning bitcoin is dangerous due to the high volatility of the currency.

If it goes down in value, sure you get paid back but you get less than you lent out.
If it goes up in value,  you risk the borrower defaulting as he now has to pay back double/triple+++ what he borrowed

Yes you can compensate for these factors to an extent but it seems like very low returns once you factor everything in, and quite labour intensive. Plus you are still dealing in bitcoins, so it does not diversify your portfolio at all.

Buying gold is a great example, and I will almost certainly do so :)



Next up, an S&P 500 index tracker paid for with bitcoins please!

This might be exactly what you're looking for.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1043118.msg11317850#msg11317850

With 1 broker you can trade the S&P 500. (and much more)

Solid post thankyou. The thing that puts me off is that everything is settled in Bitcoin, so the investment is still hinging on Bitcoins value.
I would prefer it to be settled in say dollars, euros, gbp, a currency of choice and then wired to bank or just converted back to BTC at withdrawal.

It is a good way to tuck some coins away if they pass due diligence though.

Yeah do your research on it.  I know a lot of traders who use it.

Well if you really wanted, you could short BTC to protect your investment.

You could hedge your investment by getting some PUT options OTC.

Finex margin shorts wouldn't work with the interest.

Okcoin quarterly shorts might work best.  They also sometimes trade at a premium so you get bonus interest.  But you'd be utilizing capital that could be invested in futures.  And you'd want your futures to have lower leverage to keep yourself safe.  3x leverage short?

Anyways that's all hypothetical.  This site is currently centered around settling in Bitcoin.  It doesn't work as well if you also want to hedge btc/usd.

i use BitReserve to protect from the volatility (& buy just about every other currency i could want -even gold/silver), and Coinarch to short/long (to hopefully make a few bucks, lol)....

I'm not sure whether your interest is purely gold or bitcoin but nevertheless the best way is still to diversify and put your holdings into both. You can actually convert your btc stash directly to physical gold coins and sites like amagimetals actually let you buy using btc.

Why not diversify some amount of your bitcoin to some promising altcoins, especially at this time their price is really attractive, Such as Dash, NXT etc. when Bitcoin's price rebound, altcoins may bounce strongly. Do your research carefully before making decision!

i find it risky to diversify too much into altcoin, you need to choose at best 3 altcoin carefully, and only the big ones, yeah i know that some unknown ones sometimes explode and give you x10-x25 but is too much of a gamble

i think that dash is just a pump and dump trash, nxt and monero may be better choice

ahh buy, send to paper wallet, store, profit. forget about altcoins, daily trading, mining or other fancy ways how to stress yourself. just HODL in long term and say thanks to me later.) thanks for attention.

altcoins in general are one big pump and dump scheme. altcoins, it doesn't matter which one are not investments. it's pure gambling.

You're not wrong, but gambling and investing are pretty much synonymous. That said, these are the equivelant of penny stocks. They are a high risk investment and not the sort I would want to have a significant part of a portfolio in

Investing into PoS coins, staking does seem to be very interesting option.

I like DMD Diamond, 50% annual interest

https://bit.diamonds/

Investing in POS coins can be quite risky.  Especially if they don't have utility.

One POS coin I support though is clams.  Just-dice uses CLAMS and it adds quite a bit of utility to the coin.  And it doesn't have a crazy interest rate.  You can also earn through investing in the bankroll of the site.

You could invest in cloud mining which potentially would increase your balance or decrease depending on the rise/fall of hashlet. I use scrypt.cc because its been out there for a long time and its not a ponzi, othewise it would close down when a close friend of mine deposited over 20 bitcoins there and kept it in there for over 3 months..... anyways Good luck with your choices:)

Renceny launched website bitgold.com might fit you. You can buy gold there using BTC.

Bitgold looks awesome. Need to see what the fees are like on ATM withdrawals before it gets a 10/10 but seems great :)

My idea is fast trade

You trade cryptocoin in 1-2 days
Put 10-20% profit and withdraw your bitcoin sell in usd
keep your usd

Repeat that 10-20 time per month and you get double your money :)

they talk about 1% fees for redeeming and buying gold, don't know for internal trading, but i think it is less than that

You might find Havelock useful, https://www.havelockinvestments.com/

I invest in coin ICO sometimes it makes me gain a lot and very fast but sometimes can also be a scammer

lol...

well did you tryed poloniex,you can offer your btc to be lended,currently a interest fee is around 0.04% and you got a collateral if something goes wrong i made 60ksatoshis with some low0.25btc but i dont sugest to invest more than 10btc on lending.... but well if i had i would use them on lending with colateral on poloniex

altcoin ipo's and ico's are 98% of the times scams. buying into such crap might give you a lot profit in 10% of the cases, but they mostly ends in huge losses for the buyers.

You can lend your BTC on www.BTCjam.com
or if you are good with forex trading try www.1broker.com

This way is not better than just sending BTC to paper wallet. You will end up getting nothing.

You can invest your bitcoins to digital assets, which are promising projects have a lot of features. Their development teams are creative and active, such as SuperNET, MaidSafeCoin, NuShares, InstantDEX etc.

Actually my personal opinion is without any kinds of thought should buy any kinds of BTC because it's never lost money which is invest for coins. I can give insured its very important and profitable investment for even small or big investors. Personally I did for myself for many kinds of coins. I always given advice all my well known and reliable person about this great BTC. By me if can get even a little bit of help anybody its very much great feeling to me.

even I am into investing kinda thing nowadays .
I am thinking to invest on stocks or other crypto currencies what do you say which one might be better ?

Investing in Bitcoin is most easily and directly done by buying BTC units however you can then storing them offline. If you are investing more than $5k - $10k, you might want to divert a small amount to developers of open source projects for Bitcoin or to tipping. If you want more leverage, you can invest a similarly small amount in one or two of the altcoins since these tend to rise and fall more than Bitcoin in the case of a genuine, new money bubble.

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There is an ad to sell bitcoin in exchange for solid gold on localbitcoins. Pretty good rate, too

Investing in Bitcoin is a pretty risky business, so you should only use a relatively small amount of capital that you can afford to lose entirely if things go badly. But these high risks could also come with high rewards.

You can still make money from mining coins, from buying and holding them, or from trading them on the financial markets.

I truly agree! Investing carries a significant amount of risk! But in the end it could pay off big-time if you use reasonable strategies. The best way to ensure you receive the highest RETURN ON INVESTMENT (ROI) is if you accurately follow your intuition, invest the amount you are willing to lose, and do not get overly engaged and addicted to such trading! I could also suggest that whatever method you use, be sure to allocate at least some minor portions of invested profits to good-causes. This could include - donations to charity organizations or giveaways of some SATOSHIs to random bitcoin addresses who are truly in need of some sort of capital. This could also pay off greatly, based on the golden rule to treat others like you want to be treated! Whichever method you use, know that investing in Bitcoins could some day turn out to be converted into lifetime supply of wealth! Happy Investing, And I Am Certain That Bitcoin Is The Place To Start!

mining coins is not in anyway risk free.  Nor is it the best investment opportunity.  Just because you're investing Bitcoin doesn't mean you need to invest in Bitcoin mining.

altcoin better to high profit with highrisk than bitcoin
you can see DOGECOIN
that coin is best to invest short time
i think invest is like trading if you get some profit you can sell it and wait to buy (invest) in perfect time :)

there was a time where mining altcoin was the best investment you can ever do, and without risk basically, you just need to instamine a good amount at launch and dump to one sucker on the thread of that alt

then repeat, it was one of the most profitable way, and the good part of it, is that it was possible with 1 gpu only, i think it's still possible, but to a much lower extent

Yes it is possible to day trade altcoins but you also have better things you can do like trade Bitcoin on leverage or forex, stocks, commodities and indexes.

In the real world, over 80% of new leverage traders lose all their originally allocated "investment" money, most within three months.
Why should it be any different in Bitcoinland?
The idea you can just rock up and make money trading complex derivative markets is ridiculous, and I would have a small bet that the people recommending it so offhandedly have never traded anything but Magic Cards in their lives.

I have just started lending it out to other traders. So far, the one person I lent to has an impeccable record with paying back her loans. I'll get 6% after a one month investment. Do that 12 times a year and you've effectively grown your bitcoin by 72%. Naturally there are risks, but these P2P lending sites are getting good at building a good dossier on the borrowers.

You can lose the same amount of money on alts too.

If you're lending it out to traders then why don't you just use an exchange?

i can't understand forex index trade, that very hard to me bittrex is simpler than it
Or Btc-e is better to trade with more volume every day

Yeah its better to diversify your investment so that you can earn in different investment. And that investment help your other investment financialy.

altcoins can give you a great return, but only a few people are lucky to achieve so. other brainless "altcoin investors" will most likely lose at least 50% of their investment.

But its ok to have 50% of lost because you can more money by failing sometimes you will know the strategies so that you can avoid this situation in your succeeding investment.

As others has mentioned you can always trade in alternative crypto currencies, this is a high risk option but there is profit to be made if you spend a good bit of time researching and monitoring your investment, I have seen coin values triple overnight but then also fall at the same rate so you do need to invest time as well as BTC into the altcoin market.  There are some decent exchanges that have been around for a while one of whch being Bittrex which I mainly use.

I recommend to invest your Bitcoins into promising assets on the Nxt Asset Exchange. There are a couple of services which pay weekly dividends.

15% is enough for me to get profit don't waiting you get 50-100 % profit that very high risk in altcoin

Yes you must use ALGORITHM so that you can earn or wait for that percentage of profit. You must follow step by step or the first thing to do or start with a small then you can proceed to your goals.

start from small profit and repeat it 10 time / month ;D

(Not meant as financial advise!) You could try becoming a maker for a mixing service like JoinMarket. Essentially others can use your coins for mixing - you can set your own fees, but since it's low-risk it's also low returns.

well there is currently around 10 hot altcoins soo you must search about them and learn the market interest..then choose the best time to enter ,and choose as diversy the investment lets say 2 bitcoins to trade put x on some and then more on other soo always choose and invest on more then one soo can avoid a big loss .

I think 10 times a month is too much. i think 5 times a month its ok to go further more or invest a enough money so that you can earn more but repeat at least 5 times a month.

since i dont wanna create a thread for this , i would like to ask you people whether
is it worth investing in cloud mining ?
i have been through some websites and noticed a very little profit in it.

===========Don't invest on cloudmining any more==========

you will lose your money, trading is better than it, you can trade BTC-USD/eur/Cny lowest risk but still can get profit

the mining time has already gone.... mining solo the same way is hard to ROI the equipment cost and pay the energy bill as mentioned try exchanges better results and easy to play with it

Just get a super mining rig. Watch the money flow in. However if you do decide to mine, you should mine altcoins. Bitcoin mining has been taken over by the rich.

You can also trade in alcoins.
but the best way to earn bitcoin is not to lose them first

well the best way is buy and sell it convert into others coins is a risky but can be almost profit instant since several btc invested on others coins....i made in 1 day 5x the money i had invested on a altcoin but i guess were lucky now i own others coins and waiting the right moment to sell them it will happen

better to use GPU at this point, everyone has at least one, they can still mine any last released alt efficiently, and you can always resell it later

or buy a cheap 750ti, even more convenient for that matter

it is just a bit time consuming, because you can't just fire it up and watch your earning rising(it isn't that simply), you need to follow every thread and check the code yourself soem times, for malicious code

So that you still waiting when the price of bitcoin will goes up and then you sell it. I think you can earn more if you invest it into bitcoin not in altcoins/

The best investment method is buying stocks.

Too bad, you can not buy them with bitcoins. It would be a bomb if such is possible.

Try Magnr, BTC.sx re-branded as them and now doing Bitcoin savings accounts

all weeks bitcoin as others altcoins changes around 10% soo just need to watch the market and follow them for a while and jump...

buy bitcoin :) is better than buy stock
you in wrong section and out of topic he say good ways to invest bitcoin

Yes keep calm and wait the time when the price of bitcoin goes up. Just follow the trend and also keep watching the stability of the market.

yeah i guess you are right .
what about trading in altcoins ?
will they return any profit or there is huge risk in it too ?

they are very rishy, because of the wide range that you need to deal with, i think you can go with some of the most notorious and be relatively safe with your investments, like monero/dash/litecoin(was a good bet now because of the halving)

well as already said there is some big crypto that worths the investment already over 5 months alive soo those is the most safe to invest new crypto is just too risky to put some btc in as it can die in 1 week or less

Yes its hard to stake your coins, and you know that it chance to success is low. because you work hard for it, you work hard to earn that coins so that you won't make a stupid things to loss your money.

I think the question might have been better phrased as "what are the best ways to cash out bitcoins, into any other form of asset?"
If one has a lot of bitcoins and does not wish to receive cash in hand or cash to bank for them, what other ways can one cash-out?

The gold bullion bars were a great example, they can then be stored in a security box.
The Stocks which are held in dollar currency so they do not rely on Bitcoins future were another good one, although one would still need to cash these out via BTC presumably at some point in the future which would rely on sufficient liquidity (maybe a problem if BTC flatlines)

well im present on a place where i can get montly interest of 15% soo i dont need to trade or move my bitcoins.... i trust the admin of the website and he his trading with my balance easy way,and well till the moment the most safe way to get a boost to my bitcoins :D

To buy physical Gold visit allcoin.com and buy some Goldreserve (XGR) then exchange this to physical gold, check London exchange website, you can also search for gold bullion websites online.

15% is so very high, how much you could earn from that? may i know what that website is? or its a scammed?

well not a scam is just a good place runned by an honest admin but main rule is NEVER INVEST MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOOSE,but he made a new coin run his site and now offering it 15% montly soo community trust is the way to go....

Are there any easy and secure ways of investing?

nothing is "easy and secure," if there was such a thing as "guaranteed profit" or "lots of free money" then everyone would be doing it. all investments hold risks and nothing is 100% safe. if any investment claims to have "guaranteed profit" or "quick roi" its most likely a scam.

Diversify your money in different investment.
Don't loan so that you can pay your loan into your investment.
You should have an extra money for incase of lost your money in investment.
Invest in no collateral investment, if theres some.

Thats only i know about investing. I hope you have learn or used to that ways to earn and secure your investment.

Earned much by posting.
Want to learn any other methods to earn.please suggest some methods other than faucets.

A frustrating amount of rubbish spouted in this thread! I suppose I am more used to tighter nit forums where the people who don't know, don't speak.
I hate to generalise since theres been some useful and well deliberated input on this thread, but some of the posts are just people saying words that they think have something to do with "investing"

well there is several ways to invest it ,and every day a new one comes live soo search about the projects before invest and then if you wanna try exchanges with some bitcoins only

like he said, it is very much the way mengemabangkan your bitcoin, such as trading, gambling, mining and others, tyapi every thing at risk, you should be careful in selecting

selling and buy account or create your own and use them for many signature

lending with 10% in max one week for return

do some trade, if you are good at it

the rest is pure gambling, not recommended

You can make an account then wait until its ranked become full member and up, its tooks only 100 days, then sell it so that you can earn, you can create many accounts but remember used it properly.

Yeah for bitcoin atm (at this price), but you can mine new altcoins.
A few go really high with the price, but you must have some luck to choose the right coin.  :)

better to use your account to gain trust without waiting for its rank to boost up, then you can sold it as a higher value, and save much time

but it may look like you are abusing trust, so do it only if you have something to sell or trade

PoS coins s the only smart choice ATM. You can keep the wallet offline and you control your investment.

I like DMD Diamond, 50% annual interest from staking, over 65% if you compound.

There are also a few other interesting stake coins and I definitely feel staking is the only way to "mine" for home miners.

Hahaha thats right, you can trade with someone and they can trust you , after you gain a trust you can now sell your account, but remember used it wisely and don't scammed. This will help you to sell or buy a stuff easily.

well the best way is search all information about the thing or project you willing to enter ,then invest a bit time and well its on yours hands the sucess or not

The one and only www.BitcoinDuplex.com

really someone keep making deposits on those programs making the scam get more precious coins,peole like to  loose money

You can do short term investment like doing short selling Bitcoins. Short selling allows you to profit from drops in the value of a commodity in the same way that you would profit from rising prices if you bought it. If you are clever then you can make money buying and selling alt coins/othercryptocurrencies. Depending on whether you think the price will rise or fall(has high risk in this one though.)

And also it may avoid the ponzi scheme, and also the scammed. And about short selling, i don't have any idea about that because i never used. can you explained it to me? Please?

short selling is just shorting nothing more nothing less, you sell because you think the price will drop a little or by a good rate, then you buy back

usually when someone buy, instead they are not aiming at short buying, they hold long term, for a much higher price, called also bull trend, the first is instead a bear trend

But how can we short bitcoin as we don't have any agent in between like in stocks who usually holds shares of other people. How can shorting be possible for bitcoin ?

yes, it is highly unlikely that shorting suitable for bitcoin. but we can benefit if we have a larger capital,
just imagine if each of your trading profit of more than $ 10 multiplied by the total of your capital in the bitcoin prices.
it is very profitable

you are right it's not like closing or opening a position for stocks/forex ecc...we are talking about opening an order which is different, in the latter you have less control on your trading over the market, and i find it less dangerous, than shorting directly bitcoin

but anyway shorting should be based on the technical analysis of the previous slice of the chart to see the possible new trend, if someone just follow the trend it should always come victorious(we are talking about small % of earning), but earning the maximum possible out of every situation is another thing

As at this morning bitcoin price is moving up and it seems it might get to $300 this week, so the best way to invest it right now is to keep and hold it. It will appreciate.

well that is one of the safest ways to invest the bitcoins waiting it raise as wait the dump to buy more ,but well several ways to invest and try luck

Ah ok, i understand your point, you mean that by earning a profit if it is small its a great help to earn more by the price of bitcoin in the market. But if the price of bitcoin goes down? how you can say that its profitable? so you are only depending on the price not the total profit you can get?

well bitcoin after a drop it recover it worth in some time ,those nowadays before it exploded on 1000 dollars and then started too loose it too fast

You have to remember Bitcoin is money just like the USD or the Euro. I find a lot of people coming here asking about there being any particular kind of "method" to get Bitcoin. I find the best thing for me to invest into is my time. I've joined a signature campaign, and my ranks are moving up, and yes you do learn more ways to earn Bitcoin as you go.

Yes thats right you can earned and also you can learned in this forum just join to signature campaign you can now earn, just post an constructive post with your own idea and help people now you can learned and also helped. Just do it until your ranked go up and then you can sell you account or used it.

Yes I see this as being viable. But is there a referral commission to get non-forum members to join under your referral link? I quickly was looking for that link yesterday but no luck.

well all must do is invest on altcoins that has interest on a week or two you will see the prices mooving soo may choose when to enter into them

You could register some good domain names for bitcoin, and sell them in the future.

choose a coin that was really nice, do not choose the coin because the price is rapidly changing or just feeling alone in your selection. because many altcoin that ended with a very cheap price.

But altcoin is the best but chose the greatest one, and the common coins because more buyers want that common altcoins and invest it correctly and diversify it.

I don't know if you can buy stocks or gold without turning it into fiat cash, I've never done that before. But bitcoin price is going up, you can buy large quantities and sell them for more, that's probably the best idea right now. Or simply hold some bitcoins, and they will bump due to the Greece banking collapse, that will help the price.

https://bullionbitcoin.com/
*CLOSED DOORS TO THE PUBLIC* :(

Just buy when ever you think prices are reasonable and hold it until you find a profitable margin. During this period you can loan these coins with proper collateral to increase your profit margins.   

You can do trading, you can earn some good profit there or you can just simply hold your bitcoins and wait for the price to pump out

Bitcoinlending is a good option either try: Bitcoinlendingclub.com or Btcjam! Both work fine! And interest rates start from 50% anually!

Loan is not a way to earn profit. And what you can refer to have a collateral? your name? or your wallet? The best way to earn or to buy coins, when the price of bitcoin goes down its the right time to buy bitcoin, and when the price of bitcoin goes up thats the right time to sell bitcoin.

I have thinking about to invest my several bitcoins into bitcointalk accounts,  what do you think guys?
You can try my method if you like. Since bitcointalk accounts was very stable or even getting better price on every single activity added once two weeks 14 activity. I think this would be one of the best way to invest bitcoins.

Make a paper wallet, forget it for a year or two. That's all.

Simply buying and holding would prove to be a very profitable investment opportunity. Of course, there is also a very real possibility that the price could crash and you could lose most of your money. Means you also need to watch out market once prices goes down for certain % then better to sell off and reduce you losses. Just buy and wait for years.

I think..!!
We should invest our bitcoins and can use it when it is needed.eg:when we are purchasing our accessories..and so on.The intrest money which we get from bitcoin deposit does not have any values.It simplifies our oppertunities of posting and using bitcoins in daily days!! :)

Do not just jump into trading. Just think people who brought at 1000+ and how long they need to wait for profit?

Yeah because maybe you will loss the opportunities that the price of bitcoin is too high and also when the price of bitcoin is too low and its the right time when you can buy many coins.

Buy altcoin at lowest price and sell it after a week with nice profit  :) Just check all altcoins in the market  ;D

i wouldnt recommend lending btc because the price fluctuations can actually end up with you losing money.
just hold on to them for a couple of years and wait for the price to rise.

I now use btcinvestment (http://dtsignals.com/btcinvestment/),
they have given me great returns this year.
I know they will have limited spots too but most off the time they will create a brand new fund.
Support is awesome to.

what if he does not have knowledge about trading, he'll lose if one chose altcoins, and certainly not easily see all altcoins

That`s why i pointed out btcinvestment (http://dtsignals.com/btcinvestment/) for him its hands off and works great  :o
Me to have made the big mistake to buy altcoins in the start whit 0 knowledge. it delivered me -11 btc in 6 months.
Now i don`t have to do anything except transferring my btc to btcinvestment.
best part is they are not trading crappy alt coins but real stocks, forex anything you like.

it is not a good choice buddy, give all bitcoin you to a site that may not be in the trust,
if the site is suddenly scam,? you certainly will lose all your bitcoin

Did i say he must put all his BTC in one basket?
its an option, like they do you always must spread the risk. (find more site`s look for new idea`s ect).
So basically your mind set is wrong if you put all eggs in 1 basket right?
But then again it`s your choose not mine to make where you put all the eggs.

i just given the option, my experience is pretty good whit that site. also good responsive support.
Payouts are on time, i get decent results whit there defensive funds.
around 30% to 40% profits each month and had 1 minus month off -20%.
this month it seems im getting 120% returns.

Also i still buy alt coins but i seems to be failing in that time after time.
Plus i have some alternative sites which are the same as btcinvestment (http://dtsignals.com/btcinvestment/) but they arent that good as my experience whit btcinvestment (http://dtsignals.com/btcinvestment/).

anyways that's just my 2 cents you always need to be on the look out for scammers, but if you wont take any risk you, then stop thinking of BTC.
because if you wont take risks you wont make a dime and you don't lose a dime.
The best option is to by btc and start looking at it when it reach 1000$ again over a few years.

and yes i got screwed scammed many time like every one else i think in the btc world thats the risk of btc, anyways compare it to paypal and you have a big ass official scammer PAYPAL.

I suggest you diversify some of your bitcoin.

the only good way is to invest in altcoins and then multiply bitcoins :)