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Title: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: McArshur on May 06, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Hi guys, I'm looking to rent away a senior account. It has no negatives and should do well in a signature campaign for senior rank.

Looking as the average rate of pay per post now is ~0.0012, making easy 300 constructive posts would give about 0.36 per month (not including avatar and personal text campaigns), my rates are:

0.02 per week; (you get ~78%)
0.06 per month; and (you get ~83%)
0.09 for 2 months; (you get ~88%)


My Terms
1. I'm only renting one account (at a time for the time being).
2. Escrow a must. In fact, the escrow will have to secure a safe deposit of 0.35 from renter just in case everything turns sour. (eg. epic flame-war, neg trust, disputes etc.)
3. You must at all times end your posts with your name/nick-name/initials/what-ever. Or maybe consider having a 'Rented Account' sign as the personal text.
4. Always post constructively.  :P
5. If you want to return the account before term is up, rates paid in extra will be forfeit to me or maybe we'll discuss about it.
6. Rates should be paid on receiving account. Leeway of 2 days at most to pay up for the term or deposit is forfeit. You have 2 days to return account details to escrow after term is up or deposit shall be forfeited.
7. Terms subject to change.
8. Voiding terms means your deposit could be forfeited to me. Discussion first of course.

Steps
1. Discuss terms on thread.
2. Have all parties agree on terms.(Quoting).
3. Send safe deposit to escrow.
4. I send account credentials to escrow.
5. After confirming everything, escrow sends account credentials to renter.
6. Within 2 days, send the amount stated above based on terms.
7. Happily post away without waiting time and earn big.
8. Term ends.
9. Contact escrow (or me) to inform us about term's end.
10. Send account credentials to escrow, escrow must switch credentials (obviously).
11. Safe deposit returned to renter.
12. Escrow returns account to me.


Escrow Welcome!!!
 :) :) :)

Edit: Rates changed (again)!!!  :) :) :)


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Twipple on May 06, 2015, 09:20:16 AM


My Terms

2. Escrow a must. In fact, the escrow will have to secure a safe deposit of 0.50 from renter just in case everything turns sour. (eg. epic flame-war, neg trust etc.)


You should mention that any such negative trust or dispute happening after the account has been given to the renter as any previous dispute would get him to lose his deposit . Also have a less amount for deposit, maybe something like the actual value of a Senior member account.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Zorrocoin on May 06, 2015, 09:24:30 AM
Hi guys, I'm looking to rent away a senior account. It has no negatives and should do well in a signature campaign for senior rank.

Looking as the average rate of pay per post now is ~0.0012, making easy 300 constructive posts would give about 0.36 per month (not including avatar and personal text campaigns), my rates are:

0.02 per week; (you get ~80%)
0.06 per month; and (you get ~83%)
0.11 for 2 months; (you get ~85%)


My Terms
1. I'm only renting one account (at a time for the time being).
2. Escrow a must. In fact, the escrow will have to secure a safe deposit of 0.50 from renter just in case everything turns sour. (eg. epic flame-war, neg trust etc.)
3. You must at all times end your posts with your name/nick-name/initials/what-ever. Or maybe consider having a 'Rented Account' sign as the personal text.
4. Always post constructively.  :P
5. If you want to return the account before term is up, rates paid in extra will be forfeit to me or maybe we'll discuss about it.
6. Rates should be paid on receiving account. Leeway of 2 days at most to pay up for the term or deposit is forfeit. You have 2 days to return account details to escrow after term is up or deposit shall be forfeited.
7. Terms subject to change.
8. Voiding terms means your deposit could be forfeited to me. Discussion first of course.

Steps
1. Discuss terms on thread.
2. Have all parties agree on terms.(Quoting).
3. Send safe deposit to escrow.
4. I send account credentials to escrow.
5. After confirming everything, escrow sends account credentials to renter.
6. Within 2 days, send the amount stated above based on terms.
7. Happily post away without waiting time and earn big.
8. Term ends.
9. Contact escrow (or me) to inform us about term's end.
10. Send account credentials to escrow, escrow must switch credentials (obviously).
11. Safe deposit returned to renter.
12. Escrow returns account to me.


Escrow Welcome!!!
 :) :) :)

Edit: Rates changed!!!  :)

Good terms (for you) but one question: Why renter gives (extra) 0.5 BTC to the escrow when he can buy a Sr member for 0.18-0.2 BTC.
I think rent price is also high.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: McArshur on May 06, 2015, 09:27:51 AM


My Terms

2. Escrow a must. In fact, the escrow will have to secure a safe deposit of 0.50 from renter just in case everything turns sour. (eg. epic flame-war, neg trust etc.)


You should mention that any such negative trust or dispute happening after the account has been given to the renter as any previous dispute would get him to lose his deposit . Also have a less amount for deposit, maybe something like the actual value of a Senior member account.

Thank you.
"8. Voiding terms means your deposit could be forfeited to me. Discussion first of course."

Deposit is negotiable. But i feel safer with a 0.50 cause for sure nobody would want to lose that much over a senior account. Plus, I've seen some senior accounts go for that much.. Also, it's not like I'm keeping the safe deposit myself. If you've got nothing to be afraid of, you've got nothing to lose. Perhaps I could consider a deposit of 0.40.

PS:// before somebody questions or wants to know, this account was recently purchased


-snip-

Good terms (for you) but one question: Why renter gives (extra) 0.5 BTC to the escrow when he can buy a Sr member for 0.18-0.2 BTC.
I think rent price is also high.


Hmm... I'll drop the price and deposit a little just so I can get some passive funds.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: KimNam on May 06, 2015, 09:31:26 AM
Interesting idea to rent out sr. Member account for participate in signature campaign. User get more than 80% from campaign earnings is good options too.

But for 0.5 BTC safe deposit, I think it's better to buy sr. Member account from marketplace instead rent it from you. With 0.5 BTC we can get 2 sr. Member account with low activity point i think :D

Consider lowering your safe deposit amount :)


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: McArshur on May 06, 2015, 09:32:54 AM
Interesting idea to rent out sr. Member account for participate in signature campaign. User get more than 80% from campaign earnings is good options too.

But for 0.5 BTC safe deposit, I think it's better to buy sr. Member account from marketplace instead rent it from you. With 0.5 BTC we can get 2 sr. Member account with low activity point i think :D

Consider lowering your safe deposit amount :)

Just did that. Thank you for your idea.
Raised potential ROI. And lowered deposit by 0.15!!


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: pokerowned on May 06, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
ive not seen 1 sr member acct sell for .180-.2 unless theres bad rep involved. a clean account will sell for .250-.3 all day long. dont let these guys fool ya on your pricing


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: McArshur on May 06, 2015, 09:36:30 AM
ive not seen 1 sr member acct sell for .180-.2 unless theres bad rep involved. a clean account will sell for .250-.3 all day long. dont let these guys fool ya on your pricing

Yeah, I think 0.35 is pretty decent for me. Anymore pressuring and I'll go to my lowest which is 0.30 but i think 0.35 is already pretty low, considering the larger potential ROI now !!! Come on constructive posters!  ;D


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: pokerowned on May 06, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
ive not seen 1 sr member acct sell for .180-.2 unless theres bad rep involved. a clean account will sell for .250-.3 all day long. dont let these guys fool ya on your pricing

Yeah, I think 0.35 is pretty decent for me. Anymore pressuring and I'll go to my lowest which is 0.30 but i think 0.35 is already pretty low, considering the larger potential ROI now !!! Come on constructive posters!  ;D
its a win/win for everyone here IMO. youll still be receiving activity points while they use acct further increasing value and they be able to earn a decent amt of btc participating in signature campaigns and whatnot. although personally i woulda had to get a bigger piece of the pie here.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Zorrocoin on May 06, 2015, 09:42:35 AM
ive not seen 1 sr member acct sell for .180-.2 unless theres bad rep involved. a clean account will sell for .250-.3 all day long. dont let these guys fool ya on your pricing

Of course ,you are right.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040030.0
In this link , guy sells a FM at 0.175 BTC , so Sr member deserves more price , right?

For signature campaigns, you need just 240 activity and link that I gave has ~230 activity(250+ posts) which means after 5 days just by posting 1 post , it will be a Sr.
But If you want a Sr I can sell it to you for 0.3 BTC.

Edit: In the OP , I think 0.25 BTC for escrow is more fair assuming you have more activity than 300. 


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: ajareselde on May 06, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Don't mean to bash thread, but i gotta say that its not only rank that gets you into campaign, it post quality also.
If the posting quality is anything but best, there's no chance buyer is going to hop into any of the highest paying campaigns, probably only less paying ones.
Also, OP did you consider that there's a good chance that the person taking your account get it banned ? Especially if hes some newbie that has no idea what he's talking about and what he's doing..
But, GLWS, i'm really interested in how this is going to turn out, since AFAIK it's the first service of this kind.

cheers


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Lboss on May 06, 2015, 10:04:12 AM
ive not seen 1 sr member acct sell for .180-.2 unless theres bad rep involved. a clean account will sell for .250-.3 all day long. dont let these guys fool ya on your pricing

Yeah, I think 0.35 is pretty decent for me. Anymore pressuring and I'll go to my lowest which is 0.30 but i think 0.35 is already pretty low, considering the larger potential ROI now !!! Come on constructive posters!  ;D
its a win/win for everyone here IMO. youll still be receiving activity points while they use acct further increasing value and they be able to earn a decent amt of btc participating in signature campaigns and whatnot. although personally i woulda had to get a bigger piece of the pie here.

IMHO , I agree with win/win but the owner wins much more than renter. Since owner raise his account's activity and this causes to incease at sell price of it, even owner gets nothing for rent - I believe- its enough for him.

However, renter should be highly trustable person. This is the biggest problem for the OP.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: AT101ET on May 06, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
Quite an innovative idea. I must say well done OP for coming up with a easy way to make some coins. I advise you to lower your pricing though.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: UNBTC on May 06, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
I think this is a new service and has potential. All the conditions you offer looks good. However, only 2 things I feel you need to discuss thoroughly .

Firstly , there is the issue of safe deposits of 0.35 BTC . If you must deposit 0.35 BTC, rather that buy accounts Sr. Member in the market

(even buy 2 acc Sr Member).

Second, if the lease term that happen the account is banned, it will solve like? What compensation?

I think it was two issues need to be considered carefully


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: diodio1 on May 06, 2015, 10:51:14 AM
damn this forum goin insane  ;D , many weird things appear , ranging from the useful and unique things like this.
you are really bussiness mind , everything made for bussiness.

goodluck mate  :D


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: louise123 on May 06, 2015, 11:38:20 AM
damn this forum goin insane  ;D , many weird things appear , ranging from the useful and unique things like this.
you are really bussiness mind , everything made for bussiness.

goodluck mate  :D

Yeap, many crazy things happening in these forums.

Apart from that, OP 0.35BTC safe deposit is not going to work.
You can buy a Sr. Account for half of that.



Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: PWRSeller on May 06, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
If this works, there will be more offering. I have Sr. member accounts in campaigns which need posts to increase rank. Renting them out for no fee benefits both.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: SirLolicon on May 06, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
I'm not sure how this'll work :/ Can't you just make the account public so we can all monitor it?


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: MUFC on May 06, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
Quite an innovative idea. I must say well done OP for coming up with a easy way to make some coins. I advise you to lower your pricing though.

I don't think it's innovative. It's been mentioned before but the only reason it hasn't been tried (to my knowledge) is it's not really feasible. Senior accounts seem to be going for less than 0.35 so giving that as a deposit is silly when you can just buy your own account from that and return on investment within a month. Lending out accounts is just asking for trouble in my opinion. I'd just either sell the account or use it yourself.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: blumangroup on May 06, 2015, 12:35:58 PM
I am really not sure about this renting your account out, what is your activity and current posts? Roughly of course. Anything under 370 activity the account would not be worth the 0.35 and you could buy one which is yours for about the same price, I just don't see the benefit for either you or them loaning a senior account. The fee you are asking is not profitable for you and for them they run un needed risks. I would forget this OP but if you have a friend or two you trust then, help them out and get a tip or something. I have high potential accounts and would consider this only because I would benefit then but only to class posters because you can ruin your account. If you have potential on the account I like the idea.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: louise123 on May 06, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Shindo1988 on May 06, 2015, 12:41:41 PM
Account rentals?
Hehe, I have seen everything in the forums - that is what I always say but there's more and more crazier things popping up all the time.



Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: blumangroup on May 06, 2015, 12:43:28 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?

Then I assume the 0.35btc that the renter put in escrow gets given to the OP so he doesn't lose out. Did you not read the thread because all your information was on there mate? The Op would want this to happen I reckon would be a nice price depending what activity the account is.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: louise123 on May 06, 2015, 12:55:16 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?

Then I assume the 0.35btc that the renter put in escrow gets given to the OP so he doesn't lose out. Did you not read the thread because all your information was on there mate? The Op would want this to happen I reckon would be a nice price depending what activity the account is.

And did you not read what most members posted/commented?
There is NO chance ANYBODY will accept to put 0.35BTC safe deposit + the "rent", when they can buy a Sr. account with half of the safe deposit.

He might find someone to rent it, but not with that safe deposit.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Omikifuse on May 06, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?

He will lose money because one can buy a senior account with less than 0.35 BTC


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: blumangroup on May 06, 2015, 01:09:58 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?

Then I assume the 0.35btc that the renter put in escrow gets given to the OP so he doesn't lose out. Did you not read the thread because all your information was on there mate? The Op would want this to happen I reckon would be a nice price depending what activity the account is.

And did you not read what most members posted/commented?
There is NO chance ANYBODY will accept to put 0.35BTC safe deposit + the "rent", when they can buy a Sr. account with half of the safe deposit.

He might find someone to rent it, but not with that safe deposit.

Don't answer a question with a question trying to wriggle out of not reading the OP before posting to bump your pay per post. You cannot buy a decent senior account for 0.175! So fail. Also if you read my post then you would know unless the activity is high then it is a bad deal for all involved you little parrot. Why the CAPS "NO chance ANYBODY" of course there is a chance, just not a high one. Ignore because you have trouble with communication.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: louise123 on May 06, 2015, 01:24:24 PM
OP, what happens if the "tenant" has changed the locks to your rental?
In short what happens if the buyer changes the password and refuses to return your account?

Then I assume the 0.35btc that the renter put in escrow gets given to the OP so he doesn't lose out. Did you not read the thread because all your information was on there mate? The Op would want this to happen I reckon would be a nice price depending what activity the account is.

And did you not read what most members posted/commented?
There is NO chance ANYBODY will accept to put 0.35BTC safe deposit + the "rent", when they can buy a Sr. account with half of the safe deposit.

He might find someone to rent it, but not with that safe deposit.

Don't answer a question with a question trying to wriggle out of not reading the OP before posting to bump your pay per post. You cannot buy a decent senior account for 0.175! So fail. Also if you read my post then you would know unless the activity is high then it is a bad deal for all involved you little parrot. Why the CAPS "NO chance ANYBODY" of course there is a chance, just not a high one. Ignore because you have trouble with communication.

What's up?
Are you having withdrawal symptoms or are you always such a dick?

Sure you can, I bought a few.
Last one I got was for 0.165BTC
You can also score one cheaper in an auction.



Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: Twipple on May 06, 2015, 04:39:56 PM
Still sounds like a risky proposition for the person renting the accounts. 0.02 BTC per week means 0.08 BTC per month, and the amount you quote is probably the absolute maximum that the renter will have to post.
Considering its just around 2 months of posting , that amount they end up giving to you 0.16 is what they can use to just buy a senior member account.
And in this case they are risking their 0.35 BTC incase the account gets banned, and are relying on the fact that they can make those maximum posts.


Title: Re: [FOR RENT] Senior Account
Post by: McArshur on May 08, 2015, 04:30:02 AM
Thanks everyone for the feedback, but after a few days of consideration I've decided to lock this thread for now. Perhaps when I've gotten more accounts then this service would be more viable (for me). Also, in future, the safe deposit will be lower of course, perhaps a little in the middle of 0.25? Anyways, topic closed.