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Title: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 08:43:17 PM
So I had 1 bitcoin in a paper wallet. I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account, then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet. That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed. What should I do???

Did sweeping the coins cause some delay or something??


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: AgentofCoin on May 08, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
Sweeping coins should not cause any delay.

Do you see your transaction from your blockchain address to your mycelium address?

Are you asking about a problem with waiting for a single confirmation?



Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 08:54:16 PM
Yes my wallet says it is receiving from block chain. I just need one confirmation and it has been way over 10 minutes. If it doesnt confirm soon I am screwed.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
Um, what the heck?  Watch https://blockchain.info/.  Give us a clue, e.g. Bitcoin address of source or destination.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 08:57:52 PM
143gQ8WnHPNyqaYDAke3PXsfCNuQNtd8FB

That is the destination.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 08:58:03 PM
Did you configure the transaction with a transaction fee or not?  Heck even with one it can take an hour or more for a block to be mined.  10 minutes is just the target average.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 08:58:31 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/143gQ8WnHPNyqaYDAke3PXsfCNuQNtd8FB


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: OROBTC on May 08, 2015, 08:59:27 PM
...

chaoman

Sometimes a long confirmation (eg, one hour, happens more often than you would think) can happen.  It is usually best to put some "slack" into your plans, do not assume that everything will go "as it should or normally does".

blockchain.info is sometimes slow to update without refreshing the page too.

*  *  *

Also, NEVER EVER take any BTC on any boats.  They say that there is much heartbreak among many owners of Bitcoin who have lost them in boating accidents.

Why that happens to owners of precious metals even more!  They take their shiny with them, knowing that it is safer with them rather than in some dark hiding place at home.  Until disaster strikes...

;)


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
https://blockchain.info/tx/005777305d6058fbb52f78793d9c2a7c299cc47c52cd11640d90962793f9c2f8 --> it did include a fee; good, it's more likely to get committed sooner.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: Shattered on May 08, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
10 mins isnt that long...
I have done many, many transfers between BlockChain wallet and MyCelium and have never had any issues ever.

Just like David Rabahy said, make sure you have something set for a transaction fee- this greatly speeds up the transaction times at least in my experience.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 09:02:55 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1KvmcX8VqrVxkabVgGiWV2yMZXanVKZfqu --> ah, there are large transactions that are clogging up the works in front of your transaction.  A miner can't mine your transaction into a block until the inputs are themselves confirmed (or at best they have to be mined together).  Getting those big transactions, e.g. 35KB, into a block will come eventually.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 09:04:52 PM
Well it needs to confirm now or this deal is going to fall through.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 09:07:25 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1KvmcX8VqrVxkabVgGiWV2yMZXanVKZfqu --> ah, there is a large transaction that is clogging up the works in front of your transaction.

If that last transaction is unconfirmed then how was I able to send the coins? I own both addresses.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: Meuh6879 on May 08, 2015, 09:07:35 PM
I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account,
 then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet.
That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed.

write TX transaction and receive adress ... instead of crying  ::)


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: ticoti on May 08, 2015, 09:07:51 PM
You only have to wait,anyway don't worry becuase your coins are not going to be lost anyway


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: escrow.ms on May 08, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
@Chaoman you tried to spend a unconfirmed transaction
https://blockchain.info/address/1KvmcX8VqrVxkabVgGiWV2yMZXanVKZfqu (You can see input and output transaction here)

So this transaction needs to get confirmed first
https://blockchain.info/tx/66a06c54deaad937b56ce0750f72c2f0d4a061a9e131b3198b523691eeb13305?show_adv=true

which will gonna take some time (Approx 15 minutes or more) because there are mutliple small inputs in both transactions.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 09:09:20 PM
I wonder if those large transactions are pool block reward distributions.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: Meuh6879 on May 08, 2015, 09:09:59 PM
and need 100 confirmations for pool reward ...  ;D


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: escrow.ms on May 08, 2015, 09:10:05 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1KvmcX8VqrVxkabVgGiWV2yMZXanVKZfqu --> ah, there is a large transaction that is clogging up the works in front of your transaction.

If that last transaction is unconfirmed then how was I able to send the coins? I own both addresses.

You can send unconfirmed transactions from blockchain.info wallet.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 09:10:37 PM
https://blockchain.info/es/tx/66a06c54deaad937b56ce0750f72c2f0d4a061a9e131b3198b523691eeb13305

The problem is that transaction, it is to be confirmed in next 6 blocks, and after that the next one will get confirmed


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
To avoid these sorts of delays I suppose one could enter the private key into the wallet instead of sweeping.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 09:24:10 PM
There we go -- assuming it isn't orphaned, mined into block 355566 https://blockchain.info/block-index/878113.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: David Rabahy on May 08, 2015, 09:26:22 PM
... and with https://blockchain.info/block-height/355567 sitting on top of the original commit we're essentially golden.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: shorena on May 08, 2015, 09:31:29 PM
https://blockchain.info/es/tx/66a06c54deaad937b56ce0750f72c2f0d4a061a9e131b3198b523691eeb13305

The problem is that transaction, it is to be confirmed in next 6 blocks, and after that the next one will get confirmed

Yes, the bigger TX inputs had been confirmed for ages. This one was probably the one that was swept from the paper wallet.

Anyway...

... and with https://blockchain.info/block-height/355567 sitting on top of the original commit we're essentially golden.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: MRKLYE on May 08, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
So I had 1 bitcoin in a paper wallet. I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account, then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet. That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed. What should I do???

Did sweeping the coins cause some delay or something??

The easiest way to do what you want is to just grab your private keys off the paper wallet you had and import it into blockchain.info
I primarily use electrum for my BTC transactions but have backups of my important privkeys on blockchain.info in case electrum bugs out (often)

I suggest re-trying to sweep your keys.. But make sure you are on the real blockchain.info site.. lest you lose you coins to phishers,.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 09:39:18 PM
ok well it got through. I think this highlights an issue with bitcoin though. If the 20mb blocksize can be changed why not faster confirms too?


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 08, 2015, 09:45:09 PM
Relax man.
You included a fee so it'll be confirmed.
Just explain it to the person you're making the deal with, good things come to those who wait.
Why is it so urgent that the deal is closed immediately?
Explain the situation, it shouldn't take much longer.

Edit - Deal went through as I was typing this - Doh!
I was right though wasn't I :D
The one word that fits to bitcoin like a glove - PATIENCE :D


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 09:59:35 PM
well I had him meet me at a del taco and he had stuff to do so he couldn't be sitting around all day.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on May 08, 2015, 10:04:19 PM
well I had him meet me at a del taco and he had stuff to do so he couldn't be sitting around all day.

You have a substance abuse issue.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: chaoman on May 08, 2015, 10:28:16 PM
what happens when you make assumptions?


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: odolvlobo on May 08, 2015, 10:38:57 PM
ok well it got through. I think this highlights an issue with bitcoin though. If the 20mb blocksize can be changed why not faster confirms too?

Its not that easy. Faster confirmations come at the cost of lower security.

For the next time, here are two tips:

1. Import the paper wallet directly into Mycelium instead of going through blockchain.info.
2. Confirmations are not instant. Plan ahead.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: StevenS on May 08, 2015, 11:16:23 PM
If you use localBitcoins.com as your "escrow agent", then you won't have this problem, because transactions are instant.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: achow101_alt on May 08, 2015, 11:58:29 PM
what happens when you make assumptions?
You make an ass out of u and me. :)


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: fryarminer on May 09, 2015, 01:20:09 AM
Next time just go to the "cold storage" option in your phone's Mycelium wallet. Save you the headache, and it's cleaner.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: tss on May 09, 2015, 04:12:56 AM
stupid "why does bitcoin take so long to confirm?" shill post.. just saying.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: louise123 on May 09, 2015, 04:46:40 PM
10 mins isnt that long...
I have done many, many transfers between BlockChain wallet and MyCelium and have never had any issues ever.

Just like David Rabahy said, make sure you have something set for a transaction fee- this greatly speeds up the transaction times at least in my experience.

As far as I know if you are using the blockcahin.info the fee is always paid.
So i doubt it was a fee thing.
Probably just took a little longer for a block to be found that includes his transaction.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: defcon23 on May 10, 2015, 08:02:10 AM
just try to extract your privates keys, and import them into a lightweigt client , ie: electrum or multibit..


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: mayflor2 on May 11, 2015, 05:39:47 AM
So I had 1 bitcoin in a paper wallet. I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account, then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet. That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed. What should I do???

Did sweeping the coins cause some delay or something??

Blockchain.info has not implemented the new variable fee system yet as it seems.   Even though it should suggest a fee to make your tx a high priority, it still just suggests the standard fee.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on May 11, 2015, 08:18:41 AM
So I had 1 bitcoin in a paper wallet. I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account, then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet. That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed. What should I do???

Did sweeping the coins cause some delay or something??

Blockchain.info has not implemented the new variable fee system yet as it seems.   Even though it should suggest a fee to make your tx a high priority, it still just suggests the standard fee.

Are you sure? I once swept a lot of inputs and I put a custom fee. Blockchain.info gave a warning saying it is not recommended/enough fee.*

* Not exact sentence.


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: notlist3d on May 11, 2015, 09:43:48 AM
So I had 1 bitcoin in a paper wallet. I swept the funds into my blockchain.info account, then I sent it off to my mycelium phone wallet. That was 40 minutes ago. There are people waiting on me RIGHT NOW to do a transaction and my coins are not confirmed. What should I do???

Did sweeping the coins cause some delay or something??

Blockchain.info has not implemented the new variable fee system yet as it seems.   Even though it should suggest a fee to make your tx a high priority, it still just suggests the standard fee.

Are you sure? I once swept a lot of inputs and I put a custom fee. Blockchain.info gave a warning saying it is not recommended/enough fee.*

* Not exact sentence.

I think there are two way's to send they have the regular, it pays it automatically.   Then I believe there is "custom" i think they called other one and you can select fee on it.  I do think it warns on to low when using custom, i don't think it warned if you did a little high (don't know what happens if you do insane high amount) but I could be wrong it's been a while since used it. 

Cold storage :)


Title: Re: somebody help!!!
Post by: numismatist on May 11, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Also, NEVER EVER take any BTC on any boats.  They say that there is much heartbreak among many owners of Bitcoin who have lost them in boating accidents.

Why that happens to owners of precious metals even more!  They take their shiny with them, knowing that it is safer with them rather than in some dark hiding place at home.  Until disaster strikes...

Found a soaked cellphone at the beach once.

The disaster on precious metals is their lack of replication-ability. Try to backup a goldbar (gold wire 3D printer anyone?). If the usual precautions are applied on your wallet.dat like on any other valueable data, it should be undestroyable, unbreakable.