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HK G3

It's a old one, but very reliable, resistant and easy operation and dumb proof :D

Galil. (Chose the related Kalash from the list.)

I'll say sg 550 even if I dislike I'll have to use that one as swiss.

With all the love for .308, I am surprised nobody has picked the M-14 over the M-16?

Original M1 chambering 30.06 ..... or M14 w/7.62x51 (7.62 NATO).

Everyone can keep their AK-47s.....

No vote for the M1 Garand? I am confused, why comment but not vote?

Because there are a bunch of Internet Kids under the impression that the M1 was a 7.62x51 Rifle....I SAID ORIGINAL M1.

I don't think I have ever seen a 7.62 M1? As far as I know they have always been 30.06, the M-14 was the first rifle to go to standardized NATO 7.62, right?

I've seen an aftermarket conversion.

Yeah, It's funny that Majority of people who havent carried ammo before, jsut forget or flatout dont know how damn heavy ammo is throughout the day...

Thats one of the primary reasons i prefer the 5.56mm, That and well, Less chance of an unwanted casualty. I sometimes consider the 7.62's to be Overkill, But hey, Im never shooting at kevlar targets... soo.. Yeah...

My favorite battle rifle has far more to do with the round it chambers, than the overall rifle itself. I am a sucker for 7.6x51/.308 for anything over 50 yards.
Inside of 50 yards, I would simply carry a submachine gun that shared a round with my pistol.

I would only need 2 rounds to fight....lol. I just would stock up on 7.62x51/.308 for my long and medium range rifles and 45cal for my 1911s and submachine guns ;)

So, when you go out on patrol you are carrying 4 guns, a bolt-action .308 sniper rifle for long range, a .308 assault rifle for medium range, a .45 submachine gun for short range, and a .45 pistol for backup? Are you going to grab a shotgun too for when you enter rooms?  :P

No.. I would carry an M14 and a single or pair of 1911s on patrol ;)

My Sherpa would carry all of my ammo, my submachinegun and assorted goodies...lol

Obv only three guns, Primary, Secondary, Last resort
Longrange Assualt Rifle
CQB gun like an smg or shotgun
Pistol, Always carry a pistol

Rifle on the back, Smg along the leg, Pistol at the hip, Ammo on the belt and vest aswell as other leg

Obv only three guns, Primary, Secondary, Last resort
Longrange Assualt Rifle
CQB gun like an smg or shotgun
Pistol, Always carry a pistol

Rifle on the back, Smg along the leg, Pistol at the hip, Ammo on the belt and vest aswell as other leg

The question to ask first is.. "what is the mission?"
Are we storming a city building or taking pot shots at each other in the desert. The right weapon is subject to a variety of factors, most importantly the engagement range.
Overall I would want the G3. I have an AK and a very good RECCE AR-15 on back order. But the fact is that military gun contracts go to the low bidder, not the best gun. For example the G36 or the Steyr Aug are great mil weapons that few armies can afford. I think Saudi Arabia still uses the Steyr, but then they use a Lamborghini made vehicle for their transport jeep. (no kidding)

since we are talking about military style rifles, here's a pic of my vector arms ak....

http://i47.tinypic.com/wmnfac.jpg

Evolve, why would you buy a AK-47 manufactured in America?

Wait, is this THE Atlas? You got unbanned?

Serious answer: it was the right price at the right time.  ;D

Why is a mosin nagant so cheap? I've been looking in some online shops an they are usually about 130 dollars.
How come a rifle could be so cheap?

Okay, Question, This is a poll for MILITARY rilfles right? So why are Non Military issued weapons on the list?
Who the hell loads up 2012 infantry with 1886 winchesters Etc!

It also doesn't say actual military rifles.

1886 Winchesters were once used in the army.

Best military rifle?

Whichever one is in my hands when the shit hits the fan.

When the shit hits the fan, which rifle would you most like to be holding? Which would you be most likely to be holding?

When the shit hits the fan, which rifle would you most like to be holding? Which would you be most likely to be holding?

When the shit hits the fan, which rifle would you most like to be holding? Which would you be most likely to be holding?

I'm most likely to be holding a Marlin 22lr, and considering that I have in my possesion thousands of rounds for the thing (as compared to merely hundreds for my Mosin-Nagant), I think that it's a fine choice for two legged game in an urban combat zone.

I'm not the only one, either....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdr14xVetXM

To be honest, I am now convinced to purchase a .22 handgun, Should i ever buy a handgun (i live in canada its kinda hard to legaly carry a handgun)
I just NEVER even Thought about it! I always had the "i dont want to fucking kill a guy who stole my wallet, I want to Stop him, So im gonna aim for the leg"
Well, Thats kinda hard... Swap to a less lethal bullet, And i should beable to hit the guy in the stomach or back without lethal consequences.

You just cannot justify "i only Shot at the burgler because i was defending my home!"
"You mean you killed a man who entered your house with the intent to steal"
"dude! He was robbing me! I didnt mean to kill him!"
"riighhttt... And im sure that john doe didnt mean to rob you"

This is why Travon Martin is facing felony charges in Florida, because that ongoing threat is under question.  If you shoot the guy in the back, it all but implies that he was running away, thus no further threat exists.

I tought Travon Martin was dead?  You must mean Zimmerman is being charged.

To be honest, I am now convinced to purchase a .22 handgun, Should i ever buy a handgun (i live in canada its kinda hard to legaly carry a handgun)
I just NEVER even Thought about it! I always had the "i dont want to fucking kill a guy who stole my wallet, I want to Stop him, So im gonna aim for the leg"
Well, Thats kinda hard... Swap to a less lethal bullet, And i should beable to hit the guy in the stomach or back without lethal consequences.

A 22lr can be lethal if you hit the right spot. There is a thread around here somehwere about a 92 year old man who killed an intruder in his house. He used a 22lr rifle. The guy apparently got a couple blocks away before dying, 22lr definately won't knock somebody down and keep them down like a bigger round, but you can still kill people with it.

...22lr definately won't knock somebody down and keep them down like a bigger round...

In the past, I've thought about the idea of a PDW that uses three 22lr barrels arranged in an equalateral triangle, wherein each of the three fires one round simulaniously.  I imagine, though I can't know because I've never actually tried it, the perfect shot group pattern of impact would create a prettly large trauma zone.

I'm going to guess you've never heard of the attempted Reagan assassination...

You know about Beehives, right?
http://media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com/upload/199073245999383459_GW5avAMk_f.jpg

Holy Crap!  I do now!  A shotgun shell would work as well, but do these things come as a shotgun shell?

Already tried looking, but couldn't find much. If it could, I'd imagine a max of 3 or 4 rounds could fit into a beehived 12ga shell.

A thread ending order arrived over the weekend! Best mil spec rifle? Mine!  :D

Looks nice. What caliber is it?

The AK, for all the reasons stated, is what you carry when you are zombie hunting, or don't want to stand out from the oppos.

If cost was no object, and I could drive to pick it up at the dealer in one of those Lambo jeeps... I would go with an HK416, with an M203 under-mounted, that way I can reach out and touch someone, or clear a room as needed.

If cost was no object, and I could drive to pick it up at the dealer in one of those Lambo jeeps... I would go with an HK416, with an M203 under-mounted, that way I can reach out and touch someone, or clear a room as needed.

And that is why "castle doctrine" laws exist in the US.  If someone breaks into your home, or otherwise forces their way in, the law assumes that they were there with criminal intent.

I want this so much in my nation!

How can you not have the M1918 BAR on this list? And how can you lump the AK-74 with the AK-47 when they are totally different?

They may not have had nifty toys like mechanized infantry, but at least all the Finnish troops had rifles and bullets — even if they often had to relieve the dead Soviets of some so that there were enough to go around and carry on. Indeed throughout the war the Finns made use of captured Soviet guns, ammunition, and tanks — a classic guerrilla tactic of relying on your enemy to supply you.

Moreover, the Finnish soldiers knew how to use their rifles. One Finn in particular, Corporal Simo Häyhä, became a living legend during and after the Winter War for his exemplary service as a sniper in the Finnish Army. The Red Army respectfully and fearfully nicknamed him the White Death.

During a period of just 90 days in the Winter War, in bone-chilling temperatures ranging from -20 down to -50 degrees centigrade, dressed completely in white camouflage and operating with a very limited amount of daylight per day, Häyhä went out to "hunt Russians" each day. He just in and of himself is credited with 505 confirmed sniper kills of Soviet soldiers, 542 if unconfirmed deaths are included. The unofficial Finnish front line figure from the battlefield of Kollaa places the number of Häyhä's sniper kills at over 800.

He did all this using but a bolt-action rifle with open sights, an almost incredible feat considering that he routinely engaged many of his targets from a distance of 400 meters or more. Besides his numerous sniper kills, Häyhä is also credited with over two hundred kills with a Suomi K31 submachine gun, bringing his confirmed kills to at least 705 — reportedly the all-time highest recorded number of confirmed kills in any major war.

As can readily be imagined, it wouldn't have taken all that many snipers like Häyhä to even out the odds a tad into the Finns' favor. Häyhä himself was such a menace to the invaders that the Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him specifically, including counter-snipers and outright artillery strikes. One week before the armistice was signed, they finally succeeded.

On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the face by a Soviet sniper. The bullet tumbled upon impact and left his head explosively, in the process crushing his jaw and blowing off his entire left cheek — the fellow soldiers who later evacuated him described the grave injury succinctly as "half his head was missing". Despite the near-lethal injury, Häyhä still somehow managed the fortitude to pick up his rifle and kill the Soviet who had shot him.

Häyhä regained consciousness the very day that peace was declared. It took him several years to recuperate, but he eventually made a full recovery and, honored as a national hero, lived to the ripe old age of 96.

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