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Title: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 15, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
I'm interested in selling stuff on a website to people who have no idea what Bitcoin is, but I want to get payments in Bitcoin.
So basically something as simple as PayPal for the buyer. They use their credit /debit card to pay, however it is converted into bitcoin and sent to my bitcoin address.

Does anyone know of a service or company that can do that? Is that something that Coinbase or Circle can do?

It would be nice if something like this was an optional payment method for eBay. It would also flip the tables around, instead of merchants taking our bitcoin and converting it to cash at the end of the day, we could take cash from buyers and convert it to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: BTCevo on May 15, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
I'm interested in selling stuff on a website to people who have no idea what Bitcoin is, but I want to get payments in Bitcoin.
So basically something as simple as PayPal for the buyer. They use their credit /debit card to pay, however it is converted into bitcoin and sent to my bitcoin address.

Does anyone know of a service or company that can do that? Is that something that Coinbase or Circle can do?

It would be nice if something like this was an optional payment method for eBay. It would also flip the tables around, instead of merchants taking our bitcoin and converting it to cash at the end of the day, we could take cash from buyers and convert it to bitcoin.

Do you mean that automatically convert dollar to bitcoin directly after the payment has been made? I guess there are no such thing auto convert bitcoin to cash or vice versa because the algorithm is to hard to make, it its not easy like other systems. And they need to match the current volatile price of this bitcoin


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 15, 2015, 04:04:19 PM
I'm interested in selling stuff on a website to people who have no idea what Bitcoin is, but I want to get payments in Bitcoin.
So basically something as simple as PayPal for the buyer. They use their credit /debit card to pay, however it is converted into bitcoin and sent to my bitcoin address.

Does anyone know of a service or company that can do that? Is that something that Coinbase or Circle can do?

It would be nice if something like this was an optional payment method for eBay. It would also flip the tables around, instead of merchants taking our bitcoin and converting it to cash at the end of the day, we could take cash from buyers and convert it to bitcoin.

Do you mean that automatically convert dollar to bitcoin directly after the payment has been made? I guess there are no such thing auto convert bitcoin to cash or vice versa because the algorithm is to hard to make, it its not easy like other systems

Yes that's kind of what I would like. Or simply just the reverse of what Coinbase or Snapcard does for retailers. That people could pay with dollars and we could withdraw or receive that payment directly in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: BTCevo on May 15, 2015, 04:18:40 PM
I'm interested in selling stuff on a website to people who have no idea what Bitcoin is, but I want to get payments in Bitcoin.
So basically something as simple as PayPal for the buyer. They use their credit /debit card to pay, however it is converted into bitcoin and sent to my bitcoin address.

Does anyone know of a service or company that can do that? Is that something that Coinbase or Circle can do?

It would be nice if something like this was an optional payment method for eBay. It would also flip the tables around, instead of merchants taking our bitcoin and converting it to cash at the end of the day, we could take cash from buyers and convert it to bitcoin.

Do you mean that automatically convert dollar to bitcoin directly after the payment has been made? I guess there are no such thing auto convert bitcoin to cash or vice versa because the algorithm is to hard to make, it its not easy like other systems

Yes that's kind of what I would like. Or simply just the reverse of what Coinbase or Snapcard does for retailers. That people could pay with dollars and we could withdraw or receive that payment directly in Bitcoin.

Sorry, I made a mistake. There are already got system for automatically convert the payment to bitcoin or vice versa but I can't recall what it is


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: countryfree on May 15, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
Are they many non-BTC users willing to receive any payment in BTC?
The opposite service would probably get more customers.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 15, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
Are they many non-BTC users willing to receive any payment in BTC?
The opposite service would probably get more customers.

Ok.

So I want to receive bitcoin instead of cash because I hate banks and stuff.

Bob and Mary have no idea what bitcoin is.

I want to sell something to Bob. And Mary.

Bob pays with credit card.

I get the amount from the transaction in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: BTCevo on May 15, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Are they many non-BTC users willing to receive any payment in BTC?
The opposite service would probably get more customers.

Please read carefully before you post. The OP wants to get payment in bitcoin since he doesnt want to convert cash to bitcoin so he asking whether there are some exchanges or system that can automatically convert the buyer payment to bitcoin so he doesnt need to wasting time to convert cash to the bitcoin again.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: RussianRaibow on May 15, 2015, 05:40:38 PM
I'm interested in selling stuff on a website to people who have no idea what Bitcoin is, but I want to get payments in Bitcoin.
So basically something as simple as PayPal for the buyer. They use their credit /debit card to pay, however it is converted into bitcoin and sent to my bitcoin address.

Does anyone know of a service or company that can do that? Is that something that Coinbase or Circle can do?

It would be nice if something like this was an optional payment method for eBay. It would also flip the tables around, instead of merchants taking our bitcoin and converting it to cash at the end of the day, we could take cash from buyers and convert it to bitcoin.

What you want is simply reverse of BitPay. I remember long ago BitPay tweeted that this is difficult because most of the FIAT payment methods are reversible in nature. Still, I think, you may use OKpay for this. There your customers will pay in USD/EUR etc. and you'll be able to withdraw in BTC. Please do research yourself in detail regarding OKpay before you implement it.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: thebenjamincode on May 16, 2015, 01:28:57 AM
try to use this https://bitpay.com/pricing


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: cakir on May 16, 2015, 01:34:14 AM
Yes you can do it but it's not an automatic process and it has some fee.
There's a service called payeer like paypal.
It accepts lots of payment methods, users may pay with cc via payeer and you can create btc-e codes from yout balance (fee was around %2 or sth like that)

Also there's payza that accepts btc but I'm not sure if they're paying out bitcoin.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: bitbaby on May 16, 2015, 03:09:28 AM
Yes you can do it but it's not an automatic process and it has some fee.
There's a service called payeer like paypal.
It accepts lots of payment methods, users may pay with cc via payeer and you can create btc-e codes from yout balance (fee was around %2 or sth like that)

Also there's payza that accepts btc but I'm not sure if they're paying out bitcoin.

AFAIK Payza does allow withdrawals in Bitcoin and they accept credit cards and other payment methods also. Although I am not sure how much fee they would add to it. So OP do your research, have a talk with their support and make sure you understand the T&Q clearly prior to adding that to your site.

But other than that you can just use payment methods like Skrill to accept credit card payments and convert them to bitcoin yourself by finding a trader either on this forum or LBC.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
i think you should use something like the merchant tools of coinbase or shapeshift,.io

Coinbase doesn't have the option in the merchant tools and shapeshift is only among other cryptos, not cash.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
Yes you can do it but it's not an automatic process and it has some fee.
There's a service called payeer like paypal.
It accepts lots of payment methods, users may pay with cc via payeer and you can create btc-e codes from yout balance (fee was around %2 or sth like that)

Also there's payza that accepts btc but I'm not sure if they're paying out bitcoin.

AFAIK Payza does allow withdrawals in Bitcoin and they accept credit cards and other payment methods also. Although I am not sure how much fee they would add to it. So OP do your research, have a talk with their support and make sure you understand the T&Q clearly prior to adding that to your site.

But other than that you can just use payment methods like Skrill to accept credit card payments and convert them to bitcoin yourself by finding a trader either on this forum or LBC.


Nice. Payza looks like what I'm looking for - at least it will hold me over until another startup does it better!

Thanks, you rule!



Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
This is what I found on Payza.

So... any other options?

Quote
Payza Review
August 22, 2014

We are currently able to locate over 150 negative Payza reviews on various websites, and nearly all of these complaints accuse Payza of being a fund holding scam that signs new customers up for service with the intention of holding their funds and gathering interest on them… Payza does not appear to be a reliable merchant account alternative for business owners at this time

https://www.cardpaymentoptions.com/alternatives/payza/


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 16, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
When you do that it means that you use double currency, why do you even want to do that? Why don't you just ask the buyer to start using Bitcoin? It would be simpler for me ;)


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: infovortice2013 on May 16, 2015, 06:58:59 PM
i think GoUrl can do that


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: Bitcoin_BOy$ on May 16, 2015, 08:06:39 PM
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its a bitcoin debit card  , so you can receive on it payment and exchange them if you want
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Hope I helped you ,
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Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 09:44:34 PM
When you do that it means that you use double currency, why do you even want to do that? Why don't you just ask the buyer to start using Bitcoin? It would be simpler for me ;)

So I want to be paid in bitcoin.
I want to sell stuff to people who are "bitcoin challenged" and find it too complicated to use.
I need a service who can collect payment from them and pay me in bitcoin.

Without my using a bank.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 10:09:11 PM
i think GoUrl can do that

GoUrl is nice - very nice - but doesn't do cash, just bitcoin and altcoins


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on May 16, 2015, 10:20:15 PM
BitPay can't do that?


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 16, 2015, 11:30:14 PM
BitPay can't do that?

No, they don't from what I'm seeing on their site.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: bitbaby on May 17, 2015, 03:05:02 AM
This is what I found on Payza.

So... any other options?

Quote
Payza Review
August 22, 2014

We are currently able to locate over 150 negative Payza reviews on various websites, and nearly all of these complaints accuse Payza of being a fund holding scam that signs new customers up for service with the intention of holding their funds and gathering interest on them… Payza does not appear to be a reliable merchant account alternative for business owners at this time

https://www.cardpaymentoptions.com/alternatives/payza/

Didn't know about this, although that is an old review and they only recently started accepting BTC but it is still enough to stay away from them. I think just go with skrill, there are so many trusted traders of skrill on the forum itself and you'll find more on LBC. Until you find a decent automatic service which does this, Skrill will have to do.

Here's a comparison between Skrill & Payza, Skrill seems be to the right choice.
http://payment-gateways.credio.com/compare/9-21/Skrill-vs-Payza-Business

But make sure you start the verify process asap, it may take a while and it can be a pain in the ass.

One other service I found http://www.paystand.com/ but I don't know if they're trusted or not, haven't really heard about them, so as always check it out and see if it works.


Title: Re: Service to receive payments in Bitcoin from non-Bitcoin users?
Post by: fryarminer on May 17, 2015, 04:10:52 AM
Ok thanks, I'll check out Skrill.

I doubt I'm the only person who wants to do transactions like this. Just as we want merchants to accept bitcoin, who then turn around and convert the BTC to fiat, I am sure there would be room to market the option to accept fiat payments, but withdraw the payments into bitcoin.