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I bought 4 graphics cards from BTC guy and I have heard nothing from him after making the purchase. I sent him 33 coins which can be seen here - http://blockchain.info/address/18JgZuNaW8hLV2uMGAcbUhHTVuPGfvA2jC and they appear to be in his wallet. However he has not seemed to log on here since the 1st of September. Can anybody give some advice as on what to do, or know of how I can contact him as he is not responding to my messages? He has a long list of successful transactions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66338.0 , so I don't think he has conned me, but I am not sure what is going on. I have quoted our most recent messages below.

Hmmm, Yes he does seam trustworthy, Scary thought, but It does not look like he got home!
The coins was sent two hours before he said he would check when he got home.

BTC guy has done a few transactions bigger than this, I dont think (or I hope not) that he has conned you.

If no-one has any direct contact with him, Then nothing you can do than wait.

EDIT - I know he was selling a BFL single 2gen for just under $2000 on bitmit, It's not their now, but at that price, does not seem right?

Someone else seems to be having problems as well - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106095.msg1165036#msg1165036

Damn, Does not look good, TBH 33 coins is not a fortune, but 420 coins is a hell of a bundle.

I'd agree that 33 coins is not enough to ditch and run, but if he was gonna scam someone out of 420, maybe the 33 was just an extra?

Sorry for your loss, TGJJ. Always use escrow whenever possible.

This is very unfortunate. I've learned my lesson with bitcoins. Time to move onto more safe practices like an escrow service.

Also delt in dodgy watches https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102351.0

Feel your loss, Escrow is so important.

Hello.

I have problems with this member too.

I have buyed from him at 28 august single + upgrade + 1 japaleno for 2000 $ equalent in Bitcoins. I have sent him total 185,47 BTC. 161.47 at 29 august. he even answered 2 pms that he has not much time and i have to be patient.

There was succesfull trades from him, so i trusted the guy.
Too bad i am in Europe, but this guy has been sent to me his personal information, like phone number, street adress, e-mail. I dont know if i can write it here, but it would be great i f someone located near him could check that to get back at least some our loss. If i would been located in America, i would definetly make a visit to this guy.

Edited: aadress that he gave me was : 16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n

as i can see, that is much bigger account http://blockchain.info/address/16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n

It looks like he moved my coins to a new wallet - http://blockchain.info/address/1JhBdR6ZbAqBDzEa6zpxZdGEntipDyRsBM .

Have you verified that his details are correct?

How can i verify that?
email- no answer
As about adress, it seems that it is valid, at least looking at google

Did you ever phone him?

phone number he gave me ,seems to be home number, did not want to disturb relatives, if he has some. Actualy i waited to do anything, planed to call him tomorrow.

Have you spoke with him on it?

no, planed to call him tomorrow as i stated above (pm'ed you his details)

asked here for help: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106490.0

LMAO,  I bought the same single and upgrade from the guy. Guess he fooled us all. A week ago he told me he was having personal problems.
Here is info in case anyone wants to pay him a visit:
Dean Munet
2449 n 72nd Court
Elmwood Park , IL   60707
shyster84@gmail.com

PM Sent to OP.

Is that his real adress? Did you payd him a visit?

I can offer a good reward in coins, if somebody can pay him a visit and get back my coins too, pm for details.


If i were atleast in america, i would do it myself, and would try to get all involved back their coins aswell.

I have managed to find out where the guy lives, how can I get my coins back now?

Pay him a visit with three or four friends.

Contact him and tell him to return the coins in 48hours - or you will go to the cops.

I'd visit him with some friends... No matter how big or bad he is, it's not nice to say "no" to 4 angry people.

It's been tried. I also live in a different country to the scammer, so I am really not sure what I can do.

We found his real address, name and phone, not the fake crap he provide and did that yesterday and he doesn't care.

you can also do some box flooding, phone in a couple of fake pizza deliveries, or last but not least, SWAT him.

As expected retropcdos is btc guy trying to throw false information. 

How do you Know?

No, three other members when to his real address already and confronted him directly, they came to my address first as that the address he gave them. Then they contact other members that had transactions with him and one had his real name, as they talk before on the phone then I heard the name as I knew him, as he scammed me a while ago and then they left and talk to another member and was able to get his real shipping address as they sent him 4 GPU's before and then they came back after the confronted him and gave me his real info, so I can go after him.

Moderator told me and marked him as a scammer.  Same IP as BTC GUY. 

I don't know how, but prove it? He live in Chicago like I do, so maybe same ISP, but likely doubt IP unless rotated as IP change, or asshoe sat in front of my house, but wireless has key ?

He doesn't, doing the same as your admin shoot before asking, just ask the guy out 4k, he confirm it as he the one that came over.

I put fake ads on craigslist with his phone# fake pizza a good idea.

Looks like the coins are moving - http://blockchain.info/address/16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n

Wow..... So this dude is BTCguy...... What a dumb shit...Probably crapping in his pants...

i thoght so already, want to truck him down even more, any suggestions?

I not him ask those three guy that came over already.

Naww, their fake....(fake and gay)

Ask someone that dealt with him and sold him a item, they will have his real shipping address, as he has to receive the item and compare it to the fake one he gave you which is mine, before he decided to scam you and you will clearly see they are different. Plus why the fuck would a scammer give you give real address and name before commiting the scam right out, when he just taking orders? Think people are you that stupid. 

Read it that his real info, hope that will clear up any misunderstanding?

Well according to mods, you're a scammer... You are using the same IP that BTC Guy used....

They said that to fish for info, thinking I am him, hoping that if they theated me that I would pay back people if I was him. I doubt it they even look at the logs their no way it could be the same IP and IP changes all the timw, it not static, maybe the ISP as he does also live in chicago and so so I, unless the guy was in front of my house stealing WiFi, but doubt it as have WPA key. 

Just look at someone else that sold him something and shipped to him and you will see the address not the same, as he has to receive his goods somehow? 

Here some more proof I am not him, here one of my listing from eBay, of those that did a transaction with him, tell me if any my listings look like his? You will clearly see I am not him.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110933258250&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Here another listing, look at the background and see if it match any of his listings of items he sold. I don't take bitcoin, only Paypal, cash or creditcard, as I had no idea it was around.   

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Cassette-Deck-Repair-and-Restoration-Service-belts-and-other-issues-/110910466007?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item19d2c767d7

Here one of his items he sold.

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=1094&tbm=isch&tbnid=wSRAozbZX4zp0M:&imgrefurl=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D97290&docid=vfitEs2Ne2mnDM&itg=1&imgurl=https://i.imgur.com/KmgBI.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei=4yBNUOCWL8OM2gXI_YGYAw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1193&vpy=199&dur=1257&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=96&ty=122&sig=102988575683051122763&page=1&tbnh=155&tbnw=212&start=0&ndsp=39&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:93

wow dude you fucked up and now your scared shitless.  Theres a simple solution, pay back or there will be payback. Dont be suprised if REAL people show up at you house next time.

By the way, in case anyone knows how i got the address.  BTC Guy sent me this as proof he paid for the BFL single I bought from him. There is a QR-Code on the receipt which I think he was clueless about the info inside the code. Inside the code was a bitpay URL which contains shipping details for his BFL Upgrade order. So unless he somehow got ahold of someone else's receipt from Bitpay, then this is his address. Rot in hell scammer!

https://i.imgur.com/bduPH.png

HAHAHAHA... What a fuck up....

For the final time it not fucken me and the address and name you provided was actually his real address and name, so don't see why you are pissed with me, READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE MAKING COMMENT.

The only reason why I am on here, because he gave my address and name at one point to the guys that showup from maryland as he screw him for $4600 from what one of the guys said for a butterflylab computer, can't put picture up for legal reason, but was japanese looking and look like in early 20's, but he called a few other member and someone told him the name Dean and of course I rememeber him from three years ago as he scammed me out of $2800 for GPU's, so they received his info from someone on here and when to his real address which was the one you said earlier which is the correct address and they confronted, hopefully soon they will be on here.

Now look at the listings and the address you provide which is his address and you will clearly see there no match to the fake one he provided to some, you guys are fucken hard headed.

That his real address, that why I said look at where the items was deliver and you will find him.

We're talking about whoever scammed... That's his address

 /popcorn

Honestly I dont give a shit if your BTCGuy or not. He will get whats coming to him.

I hope he does to, I been after this asshoe for a while as he moved and didn't have his address before.

He link for anyone that doesn't have phone to see link

https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=hk-jU0M0SfuGr0tGOdbTbw6Ic7wCaONIo05jOCXzh3E=

Go take a picture of his house and post it up if you're not him..... make sure to take a picture of the street sign as you pass.. Don't forget to take his picture as you knock on his door.. for good measure take a pic of you knocking on his door as he's answering it :D

I am going to take a picture of me beating his ass would be a better one.

uh huh..... I still don't believe it.... ...


You're BTCguy trying to buy some time.....

I not, but tried of fighting with you, that his address and name it the correct one, what more can I say. It's a receipt from a guy that he bought something off of, so it prove my point  Guy above prove my point and my listings are no where near the same or close to his and doubt IP even match. And never used bitcoin before.




 

Hey I could care less... Have fun.

Your a fucken prick.

There's the BTC GUY we know!

? That guy was being a asshoe and failed to look at the proof, so what point are you trying to make? I not him look at the address and name that member "bitarrow" shipped to and quick being hard headed already. I done trying to reason with you guys, you guys are idiots. I going to do what I have to do and can give a shit if you guys get your coins back from him or not, at this point.

I scammer-tagged retropcdos because he's very close to BTC Guy in IP space and I found his posts to be suspicious. It's possible he's just unlucky IP-wise and I misjudged his posts, though. I'll look into it more tomorrow.

retropcdos states that he IS at the street address in that genuine butterfly labs receipt which is also the address for BTC GUY.  It is possible that BTC guy paid real bitcoin for a BFL single and was going to donate it to retropcdos and that retropcdos is in the same ip space as well.  Not too likely though. 

When BTC guy shipped real product, his return address was the same address as well. 

In the end BTC guys BFL product will be shipped to that address where retropcdos states he lives.  Occam's razor anyone?

I received this message:


My gut feeling at the moment is that BTC Guy is trying to distract his victims. But I haven't investigated this enough. I'll think about it more tomorrow.

Just write your real adress and phone, name, and approve that.

He is just trying to get some time, not sur for what.

No you have it mixup that not my address that on that receipt, that his, mines is completely different, he only must have gave mines to the only people that showup, I took it as he use it in his account. Go to that address, it not mines so I could careless definally don't want to hold you back. Just trying to get enough details to file a police report on him as he also scammed me, then gave my address and name out to guys that showup, otherwise I would have never known and been on here.

What he did was gave my address and name in PM to a couple of members, one being "mobstrs", in the PM you fowarded to me, more likely did it to buy time and redirect people. The one in the butterfly receipt is different from mines and is his real address, the one in the PM's he sent you and details you forwarded to me is mines.

man, this comes as shocking news, I had done business with him in the past and everything turned out great. 

evidence is piling up against him though, this isn't looking good. 

Can you confirm one or another adress or name ? Thanks for help.

If you ever had to ship a item to him, can you please till us what address you shipped it to.

The only thing I will confrim is the address and name on the receipt from butterflylabs address is the scammers real address and not mines. Not going to put my address out on a public forum especially when people believe I am still him.

Plus my ebay and youtube is my user name "retropcdos" with real name and has been up for years with 100% positive with over 100's of transactions some being over 3k - 4k cash on one transaction and most in 100's of dollars and never a issue and youtube channel have 100's of video showing people how to do various repairs and restorations that took hours to do 1 video and alot of people know me, as I do repairs for them and more then my screen name on various forums to.

Why would I invest that kind of time, I am talking over 6 years just to scam this site and then give my real address in PM when I am planning to scam you? Even a pretty stupid scammer won't do that, their always more likely going to give you someone else, or fake info in this case he gave mines out via PM when people ask him for his contact info.

I am just on here due to people show up at my door around 8am looking for this asshoe and they made me aware that BTCGUY was giving out my name and address instead of his via PM, to other members to cover himseft. But he fuckup and forgot that you have to be able to receive items somehow if you bought items off the net using the stolen coins, like the butterfly receipt link below which shows his real info. That how those guys found his real address, as they made a few calls.   

https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=hk-jU0M0SfuGr0tGOdbTbw6Ic7wCaONIo05jOCXzh3E=

Yeah that is a cool youtube channel....


Well if BTCguy did scam ya.... and used your info.... That sucks.....



Dude is a total doucher...

Why not use escrow? You must demand escrow from the seller or no deal. In a non reversible currency like bitcoin, escrow is 100% required, even with trusted seller.

With people saying they have done past trades with him, Either 2 things are plausible, Either he was just building up rep to do this heist,
Or he was genuine, Then left for some reason, Someone close took his account and done the damage.

I really doubt he left, So IMO was building up to this all the time.
Shame, I do feel for you guys, But it does support the escrow service, And also proves that BTC is worth steeling.

Watching this, I really hope you get him (whoever him turns out to be)

I knew him for over a year, bought all kinds of stuff of him, LCD'S tv, laptops and computer parts, like CPU'S, GPU'S, found find on Craigslist, seem like a ok guy never had issues with him, so trusted him. He was suppose to buy a lot of GPU's, but he needed the money to pay for them, so I Paypal him the $2800 and when he receive the cards he was going to drop them off. That never happen and he moved out and lefted. It was Paypal did get them to refund me $1200, but still out the $1600. But for large payments escrow is the best way to go.   

I don't know if this is relevant, but retropcdos deleted this post:

I did at first because I didn't at first wanted to put his name out their for legal reasons, but someone else already did, so doesn't matter.

While certain parts of retropcdos's story seem suspicious, I'm not confident anymore that he's BTC Guy. That shipping receipt is especially convincing. I removed his scammer tag. I'm very sorry about that if you're innocent!

I understand your just doing your job, to protect the members on here.

Would just like to inform you that godchronic is a bit of twat. He sent me this message:

What a dick, some people just have nothing better to do then troll.

https://i.imgur.com/Sa9n0.jpg

Not something I'd brag about.

OK, I have done a lot of independent research and I am 99% confident in what I am about to disclose. I have each bit of information confirmed by a multitude of people.

I know BTC guy's name, address, phone number(s), transaction history, eBay ID, Dwolla Account and more.

As I know that BTC guy will read this, I will address it as a public message to him from here on.

I know that you will be reading this, because you have contacted admins pretending you are innocent, when you, Dean/Dan Munt/Munet, are a scammer and trying to pretend that you are not.

I have enough evidence to get you sentenced to several years in prison and will be filling reports in both the USA and the UK. I will also provide information to other victims of your crimes who will be able to press charges in their countries.

You only have one choice other than me reporting you to every single agency I possibly can and that is to return the coins. If the coins are not in my account within 24 hours from now, 2 PM Chicago time, I will contact every single police agency possible for your actions. I will also do my best to file a joint claim in Illinois and sue you with the other people you have scammed. This means that not only will you serve hard time, you will also have to give the money back and will most likely have to pay damages and legal fees. I may not be able to sue the money back, but I am sure that you will face time. This can all be avoided by just returning the coins.

If you no longer have the coins, we can arrange a deal where you can pay us back in cash in a public location for the exact monetary value of the coins. If you have the coins you can send mine back here 1BdtwdXquSQLF4hpDVKBDFzZHHZ61VAACd. I would also be prepared to distribute the other people’s coins if necessary.

To prove I am serious, I am posting your confirmed address here.

Dean Munt/Dan Munt/Dean Munet or whatever alias you are going by today
2449 N 72nd Court
Elm Wood Park Ill 60707-2018

This is a photo you:

https://i.imgur.com/Xjji3.jpg

If you do return the coins, I will remove all the information I have posted on the forum and also delete all the data I have on you on my computer, other victims have agreed to do the same.
You seriously picked the wrong guy to mess with, I will do everything legally possible to bestow justice upon you. You better return these coins.

 That him

The wallet address can be seen here, so everyone can see if you give back what you have stolen or not - http://blockchain.info/address/1BdtwdXquSQLF4hpDVKBDFzZHHZ61VAACd

theymos, please can you inform the sender of this post as to the current situation.

Great job TGJJ.

If you are reading this BTCguy, i will inform you that i am totaly supporting TGJJ on every legal way to teach you a lesson and have provided all information i know about you.
IF you will return my 185 BTC to my walet, i will get back all my accusions. My walet is: 192iDtR8zJwVRj57SRzvLzbbjqdwy4veAf .
If you have not coins anymore (i higly daubt about that) than contact me here or to email (jurisbaltalksnis@gmail.com) how you will return my loss.

agreed. I live in the US and I am also supporting legal action.
You owe me 255 btc   refund to: 1ExEngVptcsVDdDCztvCK2ohXJE8zHN2Gu   or my original btc address is fine.

To anyone serious about legal pursuit, I am happy to donate any money necessary. I don't have much time to take point on this, but I happily have money to blow. At this point its just about principal rather than lost money. Interested parties, if you need me, PM me.

ROFL.

This douchetard tried to get me to buy his pre-ordered SC's as well.

I required that I recieve confirmation from BFL of the order numbers as well as transfer of the order before I would pay.  He got all cranky and would not do that.  


I laughed at him and moved on.  

And that, ladies and gentleman, is called protecting yourself from scammers.  

I asked for this same info as well and thats how I received the BFL receipt. How is this protection? Escrow is only protection and I don't think we need more jackasses reminding us of that. At the time I felt the guy had earned enough selling rep to forego escrow, as Im sure others did. But I always say, "Everyone has a price!"

My apologies.....I re-read my post and can see it coming off a bit snarky.  That was not my intent.

BTCguy is the fucktard here, and I should not have piled on.

My offer was to pay for the single upon receipt, and for the upgrade upon verification from BFL that the order had been transferred.  Thus I had no risk of being scammed. 

Dude looks like he needs new clothing....

I PMed him.

Recieved this today:

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hey,

im here. im very sorry for how sloppy this deal was. i plan to return your coins. please PM me with all the details of our deal and i will make it right.


pmed him all the details, lets look if he makes it right.

I did the same. According to him, the coins are all gone. Lets see what his "plan" is.

3 Hours. I better see some coins moving.

People can see if I have been repaid by BTC guy here - http://blockchain.info/address/1BdtwdXquSQLF4hpDVKBDFzZHHZ61VAACd

1 hour and 30 minutes left.

It appears that you have failed to return the coins.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and my kindness will extend until Midday Chicago Time tomorrow, at the point I will act on everything I previously promised unless I see some coins returning to people's wallets.

This is your last chance, as if I don't see the coins returning by tomorrow, I doubt they ever will, so I will have no reason to not report it then.

The BTC guy has just sent me 2.67 BTC. Told him to send to another involved people. Transaction is here: http://blockchain.info/address/192iDtR8zJwVRj57SRzvLzbbjqdwy4veAf

Its not much, but atleast he is starting to do something. I hope he will not stop sending and will inform us of the shedule.

"its not much" ???  Its nothing. I tracked my transaction through a few hops and there is still money in his hands. He is full of shit

so he payed you too some part?
How much?
Can you share with that transactions where we can see that he still got coins?

That is one deep V.

Not pulling it off though. lol

Created special walet for btc guy to send coins: 1Ly6ugkbDkcRtrDMfACxRwV2LDyve7MVuV
He sent me already 2.67 BTC, total was 185.47, so 182.8 BTC to go

Quote from: sadpandatech on September 11, 2012, 05:17:24 AM
Quote from: Severian on September 11, 2012, 05:13:18 AM
Quote from: sadpandatech on September 11, 2012, 04:47:28 AM
Does he know yet?

What's that link referencing?

http://blockchain.info/tx/3288f2ea89f420f5af3e49acb7c3a243117cee6288193ce2d1723ab74d04bef2

just 415btc he received from Przemo a few weeks ago. I was wondering if Prezmo knows yet.

Thats me Ernest i was digging bitcoins with Przemo we sent him 415 btc from Przemo account for the hardware that never came. and we are just crushed, so many months of hard work seems to vanish :((((( . the way i see it,  i wait 2 weeks more and than my family which lives in US goes to FBI. No writing bad words for this guy will encourage him to send us back the money or coins. If he's honest but stupid and he writes truth that he made bad decisions and he wants to pay us back this will not help, if he's a scammer and wants to cheat us, this wont help either , only law enforcement can help in some way( worst case scenario - guy goes to jail and we dont get our money back because FBI or anybody wont give us our money back) the question is : is it worth for him to go to jail for such amount of money( if they catch him -which i predict they will because its too few money to let him hide effectively)

we just sold our rig which i advertised before on this forum and wanted to buy more compact one and we found this guy :(((( ahhh

a lot of times if someone is charged with a crime of theft or fraud a restitution order is put in place so the money is returned....


Good luck to you all

Anybody got some update from BTC guy ?

Las message i got from him at 14.september:

i sent anzjack 2.67 coins today. i just got tgjj shipping address for the cards. there isnt gonna be progress made every day. i need to hussle and make money before i can start paying back anything significant.

I offered him an ultimatum for Saturday. I don't think we can believe this attorney stuff. If he fails to make it, I will post everything I have on him.

I dont beliewve that attorney stuff eather. If he would continue to pay atleast some small amounts of BTC, i could be more patient, but he cant even post some plan how he imagines to pay us back.

I am not even sure he has really lost the coins.

Let me know how that ultimatum goes on Saturday.

Just a few hours left to act.

He's gone.. Probably in the process of renting another slum under someone else's name.

Most likely, but that photo and his name will be more than enough to get him arrested. And I have more than that.

Good... Looks like a jail bird....

Yep! That's you him. Now I'm curious as to what are the odds of three people living in Chicago owning the exact same coffee table resting on a hardwood floor with the boards running in the same direction, and all three are bitcoiners.

Probably not very high, for I once picked up the same hooker in two different cities a thousand miles apart, and they both asked me the same question--are you a cop? What are the odds? To be clear, I was just giving them a left to Walmart.

I find it funny how retropcdos registered the day after this thread was created.

This rockso guy can't seem to get a break with all these coincidences popping up. How somebody could take the time to build a viable eBay business, then fuck it up by scamming bitcoiners is beyond my comprehension.