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Quickseller's feedback on my account:

"Openly stating that he is willing to back out of a deal prior to him committing his money to a trade if he were to find better terms.

This account was also likely purchased on or around February 2015, so the registration date and time online should not be considered to be accurate for this account."


@bold: Yes I said it. I have never done it but if the buyer doesn't respond for a day or delays the trade or abuses me, why shouldn't I walk out of a deal? I haven't robbed anyone and this is clearly a dominating statement by him. Prove that I have walked out of a deal before and then talk. Ask, MZ about my behavior as I dealt with him yesterday.

@MZ: Did I seem a person to back out of a deal? Did I seem fishy? Dint I try to complete my deal?




@green: I've never changed my password.  :D

Check my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0

And my post in 2013: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259765.msg2820123#msg2820123


@MZ: Please check the BTC address I sent you yesterday.

I won't spend a penny to buy any account when I can create an account for free. This account I myself created in 2013 and then I dint like bitcoins as it was not legal in my country and then I came back to sell my gift cards.


I'm shocked to see a reputed escrow to behave so immaturely. He has proved to give feedback based on personal gurdges because I told him I won't be using him as an escrow.


I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust. It's so immoral and unethical of him to make assumptions like this. I'm myself a reputed member of another forum and till date, I have never backed out of any deal. Instead people have backed out from my deals and have scammed me. I just gave quickseller an example that I can walk out if no money was exchanged but this is the limit of him giving me a negative feedback. The second statement proves how good he is in verifying scams.


Quickseller, I'm sad to see that you now dislike me for saying that I won't use you as an escrow. I won't ask you to remove my neutral feedback because I am matured enough to handle your dislike. I only want to tell you that the number of times I have been scammed, you can't even imagine. Not only in virtual life, in real life as well. You are quite arrogant and this dislike would get you nothing besides more dislike by other members. Sorry to see a reputed member behaving this way. I respected you for being a trusted member of this forum but now  :-\

It is a neutral feedback. So it isn't a big problem. He also left me one when there was a dispute regarding MS keys sale. If there is nothing, he will remove it. He removed mine and I didn't go after him for removing it.


Erikalui was good to deal with. When I send a new terms which ensures fairness and safety, she agreed to it. There was no problem and it finished well.


IMHO it is better not to state this in threads like this. See characteristic 8 in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0.


I confirm the address she sent me yesterday is same address in the post mentioned above.

Thanks MZ for confirming my BTC address and hope to deal with you again. I will remove that statement which you mentioned but I already stated that earlier. I'll find that thread and remove it.

Also, QS isn't in Badbear's trusted network anymore.

Interesting. His feedback still seems to be showing up as trusted but he doesn't seem to be on anyone else's list.

His feedback has been moved to 'untrusted' now. Must've just lagged a bit to update.

hilariousandco, are you quickseller?

The claim of the account being purchased is based on the fact that your account was used primarily for giveaways, (and made many very short posts) in its early days, in a fashion that is consistent with someone farming activity to build up "potential activity". The February date is when posting activity picked up substantially. Sure it is possible that you simply gained an interest in the forum around that time, however your account's posting history is consistent with a farmed account. I do not have access to IP addresses nor password changes greater then 30 days ago, so I will need to use evidence that is publicly available and that evidence points to a farmed account.

The feedback I left had nothing to do with your comment about my escrow services, although it was because of the same post that you wrote. The amounts I earn from escrow fees is literally dust amounts and the lack of an escrow fee is not going to have any impact on my financial well being.

In regards to my other part of my comment, if you agree to a specific deal and your offer is accepted prior to you withdrawing such offer (and a reasonable amount of time has not elapsed) then you have entered into a binding contract. Your willingness to openly state that you would back out of a deal if you found more favorable terms does make me believe that it would be a bad decision to do business with you. If you were to attempt to back out of a deal then it would be possible for you to be sued for your performance in such a contract, although due to the very small amounts that you deal in, it is unlikely that anyone would bother suing you.

In regards to BadBear removing me from his trust list, that is his problem, not mine (I am still in his trust network regardless) as my ratings are still accurate and my ratings provide warnings to members of the community. I would like to think that my reputation within the community is still high enough so that my opinion is valued enough for people to listen to what I say, default trust or not. I can tell you that getting me removed from his trust list is not going to change the impact of my rating on you.

I am also not surprised that you were so quick to open a thread about me considering that it was made so soon after you sent me a PM before you sent me a PM about it. You have been baiting me for a long time now however until now I have not found anything to support any kind of rating. I do however consider your behavior on the forum to be very sketchy to say the least (often refusing escrow, doing a large number of very small deals, early posting history consistent of farming activity, among other things). It shouldn't be a secret that you have been discretely trying to get me removed from default trust for a long time now. I would also point out that I was previously excluded from your trust network and that you have very few trust ratings so I would think it would be unusual to have discovered my rating as quickly as you did.

I don't know what BadBear was waiting for to remove QS from his list. Having him in there has proved disastrous. Quickseller is obviously an individual obsessed with witch hunting and your case is a crystal clear example.

While you've probably never caused any harm, he felt that it was appropriate to give you such a vague rating only after you expressed your thoughts against him. It's also funny how he goes that far to justify such a rating when he's clearly based it on speculation and personal bias. Not surprisingly though, his comment above where he tries to justify this rating comes with more accusations and a personal attack. Seems like someone didn't learn his lesson.

I really do hope that no one like Qiockseller receives a spot in default trust ever again.

You are another one who has been baiting me for a long time. Although I do not have any evidence of this besides the fact that you both often troll me and are critical of my ratings, I speculate that you are one and the same of the OP.

I have been a controversial person to be on default trust because I have been so effective in finding and outing scammers and alts of scammers. Adding to the controversy is that fact that I have sold/trades a large number of accounts in the past which until recently was very much frowned upon within the community. However I can assure you that some of the most reputable members here also engage in account trading to at least a small extent, just not under their main accounts. 

The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior.

Thanks for your reply.

I don't purchase accounts as I myself has stated that many times that I dislike account sales on this forum. I have many other forum accounts with the same username. It's my wish if I make small posts or large posts and how does that affect any other member? I asked Badbear to prove that it's my account and now MZ also has proved it as my bitcoin address is the same. The post in 2013 is not edited FYKI.

I dint even know about Signature Capmpaigns nor about bitcoins till I came here and since I had an exchanger, I tried earning bitcoins. I am an active member of EMS emoneyspace.com/forum/ and that's the place I am comfortable with as there the trust system and scams are moderated unlike here where you or any other person can accuse me of anything I haven't done.

I constantly refuse from escrow as why should I trust someone with my money? I haven't scammed anyone till date and so I don't get scared of anyone's claims. You may leave me even 1000 negative feedback and I'd proudly accept it because if anytime I am scammed because of this, you and no other member would give me a penny.

I do large trades as well but only limited to $10-$15. I am shocked that me trading small amounts is an issue. I don't earn much from my online work. If you know about any sources or work that would help me earn more, please tell me. I would be more than happy to do larger trades here. I have traded with the get-paid owner who is a member of this forum and even bitboy11. Ask them how much I have traded with them till date.


"In regards to my other part of my comment, if you agree to a specific deal and your offer is accepted prior to you withdrawing such offer (and a reasonable amount of time has not elapsed) then you have entered into a binding contract. Your willingness to openly state that you would back out of a deal if you found more favorable terms does make me believe that it would be a bad decision to do business with you."

Reasonable time is 1 day? Or more than that. I usually take 3-4 hours as a reasonable time to respond and if the buyer doesn't respond, I send him a message to cancel the deal. Is that behavior fishy? It has never happened till date but I want to know if I am exchanging my money with someone, how does it make me a scammer? I have no right to withdraw from any deal? That's why I say that you are immature even though you are working as an escrow. MZ is more professional in his deals.


" If you were to attempt to back out of a deal then it would be possible for you to be sued for your performance in such a contract, although due to the very small amounts that you deal in, it is unlikely that anyone would bother suing you. "

Please read the law dear. Learn the meaning of being sued. "institute legal proceedings against (a person or institution), typically for redress." It's only if I sign an agreement then I can be sued. Such poor knowledge won't help you in life. My mother is a criminal lawyer and she is my guide and with her being in my life, I will never do anything wrong for which I will need to be sued. I am myself a Software Engineer and I have spent 20 years of my life in reading books. I know what I do and what is wrong or right. I stand by my statement in that thread even now and I did not delete it nor did I leave you any feedback for your behavior. That proves what I am.




"It shouldn't be a secret that you have been discretely trying to get me removed from default trust for a long time now. " I am shocked with this statement. I wanted the entire default trust to be removed. I have nothing against you. I remember TheGambler insulting me for supporting you. I also commended you for tracking down scams and this is what you think about me. Thanks again.



Again I say the same thing. Trading in small number of trades is because I don't earn much on this forum or any other forum. I don't believe in Gambling or HYIPs/Ponzis. Please tell me any legal methods to earn more money. I would be greatefull if you do so else don't accuse me of doing small trades. I honestly don't earn enough. Check my bitcoin address: https://blockchain.info/address/15kADsBTud7qMKqD6cBcvGpnJX37Lznuhh I have earned barely $168 in these few months which is not a lot of cash but it's only earned from signature campaigns and by selling my gift cards.


Don't mock me for the less amount I earn. I am proud that I earn it by working honestly on the forum and not by doing anything wrong.



"The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior."

Negatively many times? I have criticized your behavior of leaving negative feedback many times. I haven't crossed my limit in this matter and have no personal grudges against you.


I am also not surprised that you were so quick to open a thread about me considering that it was made so soon after you sent me a PM before you sent me a PM about it. You have been baiting me for a long time now however until now I have not found anything to support any kind of rating. I do however consider your behavior on the forum to be very sketchy to say the least (often refusing escrow, doing a large number of very small deals, early posting history consistent of farming activity, among other things). It shouldn't be a secret that you have been discretely trying to get me removed from default trust for a long time now. I would also point out that I was previously excluded from your trust network and that you have very few trust ratings so I would think it would be unusual to have discovered my rating as quickly as you did.


You seriously think I am trying to get you out of the default trust? I'm least bothered what you do or do not do. Whenever I find anything fishy in your behavior or anyone else's behavior, I voice my opinion. It may have made you feel that I am against you when I'm not.

I always check my feedback and I noticed something neutral. I sent you a PM after opening this thread as I was so upset about you claiming me purchasing my account. I sent a PM to MZ as well but he received it after posting here.


You will be shocked to know that I dint get you removed from Badbear's trust list. It was his decision. I just asked him to confirm that this is my account. I knew that you would blame me for it but I have never ever asked anyone else on this forum to get you out of the trust list. Why would I do that when your trust ratings have been accurate to an extent? Your feedback only for worshiper was something that made me feel bad about else the scams you have stated have always been true/might be true. Didn't I send you a PM stating the same earlier when you contacted me about Twipple? If I try to ask you your reasoning for leaving a feedback, it means I dislike you?


I have criticized the ISIS as well on this forum and atheists as well as they abused me. So what does that prove? I guess I have a right to debate on this forum or only I am meant to shut up?


I own this account since 2013 and then I left and came back in 2014 November. I dint even bother about bitcoins till then. I guess now again I need to leave this forum. I'm unhappy with the way poor people like me are treated by reputed members here. Thanks for the hate.

No Quickseller, what's making you a controversial figure in this forum is your actions and nothing more. It's accusations like that that make you look bad. Outing a scammer is not controversial, spewing out accusations like it's a hobby for you is more controversial. You're even doing that by talking about me in such a way but it's probably hard for you to realise that. It's hard for you to stop personal attacks, it's hard for you to tell trolling from criticism.

This is why me and several other people are happy that you're out of default trust.

@bold: Thanks again for this comment.

It shows that you do not dislike me but HATE me and other people who don't earn much and go about criticizing you. I have criticized the forum rules of account selling/buying but why would you care checking that.

It brought tears in my eyes to see so much HATRED for me because I earn less. Yes, I'm not rich and I haven't cheated anyone in my life but have been cheated even by my own family members. You would not be able to understand me and I will never be able to understand you.

The only thing I can get out of this is that you aren't a good human being but only a trusted human being. I don't know why Badbear removed you from the trust network but it may be because you have posted a false trust on my profile. I don't ask you to remove it. Keep it if it gives you peace.

It clearly proves from your words that you have just been waiting for an opportunity to leave me a negative feedback. It shows you as a desperate person and you can stoop so low to prove yourself as trusted. I am not happy that you are out of the default trust but I am happy that Badbear now doesn't trust you. He is the admin and I respect his decision.


I stand by my statement that I will never use you as an escrow. I will not even pass by a shop where you might sell your goods/items (if you do so). You will probably scream out "Cheat Cheat Cheat" if I walked out of your store after confirming a purchase. Stores even offer 15 day return warranty but you wouldn't support that.

You have been removed from the default trust list because of your own behavior and don't blame me for that.

Not correct.

'Treitel defines an offer as "an expression of willingness to contract on certain terms, made with the intention that it shall become binding as soon as it is accepted by the person to whom it is addressed"'

Does the typical Bitcointalk account seller intend that?

In this hypothetical example you're using, erikalui is the seller and the person making the offer.

If erikalui does not intend for the contract to be binding the moment someone verbally accepts it, then it's not a formal offer but rather an invitation to sell. There's a fine difference.

Given that a high percentage of deals fall through over anonymous forums, then you will find that the courts will agree that the seller may reasonably intend acceptance to be conveyed through payment.

If you don't believe this, just look at Amazon.com.

(1) You add something to your cart
(2) You proceed through the checkout process
(3) The price of an item has increased, you are notified and prompted if you wish to continue the checkout process.
(4) You pay for the order

When does acceptance occur?

(Hint: It's at 4, not at 2).

Thanks dear.

I was wondering why my comment was wrong. I have never cancelled my deals when I got a higher offer as my prices have originally been high. I sell my $5 card for $5. Why will anyone offer me $6? People here insult me for that and still I don't mind.

I was just giving him an example which he dint appreciate. He should check the feedback I've received on the other forum "http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php?action=trader&id=245976"

QS, haven't we argued about leaving trusted feedback after 1 deal? You were the person to say that Escrows need feedback and not me. I said that I don't care about feedback and I stand by it even now.

IMO, it's prefect legal to back out of a deal at any time before the trade has actually started - it's called due diligence (thanks Shark Tank!).

It could be offensive to the other side if they had already spend a considerable about of time preparing the deal - but that's a risk you take any time you deal with another person.

I edited my comment to say that your early post history is consistent with that of a farmed account. A signed message does not mean that the account was not purchased however the editing of my comment makes this a moot point now.
You should be able to trust an escrow because they have shown in the past that they have acted honestly and because they have incentives to continue to do so. If you are not going to accept escrow then others have incentives not to trade with you because of the high chances of getting scammed.
The trading small amounts a large number of times is consistent with someone trying to build up a lot of trust reports. This may have been a way that you wrote the amount you are trading however I am fairly certain that I have seen you offering $0.50 (50 cents) worth of skrill before. Maybe you live in a part of the world where 50 is worth more however I think the average person would wait until they had a larger amount to trade as transaction fees would make up a large percentage of any amount you would receive.  

The law does not specifically define what a reasonable time is however the amount of time that is "reasonable" increases as the value of the trade increases. If you have accepted an offer to trade with someone, it probably would have been a good idea to get a timeframe as to when a deal will be completed by so if it is not completed by then it would be the other party who failed to meet their obligations.

Your previous comment did not say that you would withdraw an offer if you did not receive an acceptance of a deal. Your previous comment said that you would back out of an accepted/confirmed deal because you found better terms. Your above statement is an example of you withdrawing an offer to trade, your previous comment was you saying that you would not trade with someone after both parties have come to an agreement.

You can be sued for any reason despite its validity. Contracts can be written or verbal and do not require any kind of signature to be binding upon you. Verbal contracts are more difficult to enforce because what exactly was agreed to may be difficult to prove. The same is true for contracts entered via an email or a forum post as you can always claim that your account was hacked, it wasn't you, ect.



If you really want to dispute this then I can dig up old posts that back up my statement.


I am not mocking you. My point is that you are making a large number of small trades with apparent high frequency. It appears that you intentionally trade in smaller amounts then you can with the intention of making two (or more) deals.  

Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to.

Address associated with an account can also be sold when selling that account but when I acted as escrow for a trade between him and another user, the funds were released to his address posted in July, 2013. (post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259765.msg2820123#msg2820123)).

Using a bought address is insecure and nobody would do that except for testing purposes.

Amazon does not give the option to accept their offer without first paying for your order.

A better example would be a person signing a contract to buy a house that does not have any kind of contingencies, being accepted by the seller and then the seller backing out of the deal. The buyer would have the right to force the sellers performance in the contract. This kind of agreement is that a deal will take place at a certain point in the future. Your example is one where the offer is contingent on actually receiving payment.

Edit after:amazons offer is actually for you to pay them immediately for what you are buying  

edit2: unless the terms of a trade specifically say that the deal is not binding on the parties then the law (and legal precedent) says that it should be assumed that the deal should be binding on all parties. Additionally if escrow is contacted to have escrow setup then it should be reasonable to say that he offer is not an invitation to sell, and/or it could be interpreted that the offer was an invitation to trade, the verbal acceptance was actually the offer and erikalui either contacting escrow or telling the other party to contact escrow to be an acceptance.

Like I said it is a moot point because the comment about it being a purchased account was removed.

Either way I think it is fair to say that I am allowed to be wrong every now and then as long as I correct myself when shown to be wrong.

@bold: If that's the case, then probably I wouldn't use you as an escrow. If I am not comfortable with the attitude of the buyer/seller or the attitude of the escrow, I am free to cancel the transaction. Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? Why shouldn't I go for a deal that would save me from paying the escrow fee?

The above is my statement. I haven't mentioned anywhere that after a deal is confirmed, I will back out. You are adding these words from your mouth.

I haven't ever stated to withdraw from a transaction after it was confirmed. I said that if in between if I feel uncomfortable before the terms are stated and the deal is confirmed, I can walk out. I won't cheat the buyer/escrow by doing that not has the trade been confirmed. It is still suspended as I did not confirm the trade.

I always state this in my deals that the person should respond in time. If I don't get a reply for over 3-4 hours, I send him a message saying that I cancel the deal. He needs to read the message for his behavior. I cannot keep waiting for his response till dooms day.


Yes, I have traded $0.5 as well. For me it's an amount which can buy me a biscuit packet. I wanted to exchange it as I don't want it in my account as Skrill can shut down. The fact I do this as I have been scammed by Liberty Reserve of $15. I know others will laugh at the amount but I earned it and did not rob it and hence it was a big loss for me.

If you feel that I bought this account, fine. Live with that suspicion as it was you who said via your alt account that where does it show that it's against the rules? You are more intelligent than me when it comes to the rules right. I dislike account selling even today as I wouldn't bare anyone else to be "erikalui". It's my and my mother's name that's attached to my username.


TheGambler deleted his posts and I can't prove that he told me that I am supporting you (used an abusive word) because you are from the default trust list. I guess I criticized you because you were lying about your alt account which I felt weird. I know about alt accounts and how they reply to themselves which is not appreciated.



"Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to."

Again the bolded statement is your assumption. Why do you love assuming things dear? I have criticized even ISIS, atheists, theists and even MZ for the religious beliefs. They did not leave me negative feedback else my account would be full of their feedback.


"You can be sued for any reason despite its validity. Contracts can be written or verbal and do not require any kind of signature to be binding upon you. Verbal contracts are more difficult to enforce because what exactly was agreed to may be difficult to prove. The same is true for contracts entered via an email or a forum post as you can always claim that your account was hacked, it wasn't you, ect. "


Again an assumption that I want to back out of a deal after confirming the terms. I never said that.

My statement: "I have cancelled real deals as well where I needed to rent an apartment and after setting the terms with the broker, I cancelled it as the buyer was a nuisance. "

Here the owner was a cheat. He agreed to cancel the deal and after cancelling it, he deposited the cheque of about $1000 which would make me lose that amount.


"Your previous comment said that you would back out of an accepted/confirmed deal because you found better terms." My statement made earlier "Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? "


This is what I said. It's no where mentioned that I will back out of the deal after agreeing to the terms. Where did I say that terms were agreed or a deal was confirmed? It's one deal without escrow, one deal with escrow. I choose the former. No deal terms/conditions/no confirmation was ever made. Your feedback statement is itself wrong.

I will only backout after confirming with the seller and escrow if there is any kind of issue and not because I got a better offer.

Your statement was in response to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone. At that point the terms of a deal would have had to be confirmed and agreed to. Escrow cannot be setup until that happens (they wouldn't be any way for escrow to be setup without terms agreed to and confirmed first).

The sale of accounts is not against any rules, however that does not mean that people do not buy accounts for doggy reasons. My revised comment does not mention that your account was potentially sold.

Then that's a misunderstand as I set up MZ as an escrow before the deal was confirmed. I dint confirm the deal with the buyer and just asked MZ if he was willing to escrow the deal. MZ can confirm this.

I don't confirm my deal till the buyer says "I agree" and once he says that, I send him the code/money. If you think that setting up an escrow is a deal set in stone, then the person who backed out from my earlier deal deserves to get negative feedback. I had contacted MZ and then the buyer backed out of the deal and I had to inform MZ about it.

I am still immature when it comes to using escrow and yesterday was the first time I used an escrow.

Asking someone if they can escrow a deal is not setting up escrow. Setting up escrow, in my eyes would be to have both parties confirm the terms of the trade and requesting an escrow agreement.

Maybe it is a miscommunication issue, maybe it is you backpedaling. I'll go ahead and revise it to reflect your apparent lack of understanding of my terminology. 

I don't know what you think about me whether I'm lying or not. In my posts, nowhere did I mention that I'll back out of a confirmed deal. It was your misunderstanding thinking I want to and that's what you wrote in the feedback you left. I dint edit my statement on that thread which makes you feel I'm backpedaling.

You also are blaming me of buying my own account and that Badbear removed you because of me. You blamed that other user of being my alt. You blamed me of criticizing you and said you were waiting for a chance to give me negative feedback. What should I conclude QS?


I haven't ever told anyone to get you removed from the trust system nor have left you a negative feedback. I have never insulted you or abused you and have only criticized your actions which I felt were wrong and hence you wanted to leave me negative feedback.

Thanks for the revised feedback "Openly stated that he will back out of a deal after the terms of a deal were confirmed and escrow is setup if he can find someone who can offer better terms.

He later said that his statement was regarding the time when terms are still being discussed and not yet confirmed. His original comment was in response to a comment saying that terms of a trade were confirmed."

Please someone pinch me. I deserve this for someone else's misunderstanding :D

you responded to me saying that once escrow is setup that a deal is set in stone saying that you have the right to cancel a deal. I don't know why you would make that statement in response to my statement if you would not be willing to cancel a deal after the terms were confirmed.
I didn't ask BadBear the reason he removed me and I am not sure I will ask.

I said that your posting history is consistent with that of a purchased account, however as MZ pointed out the chances of that are unlikely due to the reuse of an old address.

I said that I was speculating that you are the same as the other person and I specifically said that I did not have any evidence besides the fact that you both are often trolling me and are critical of me. The list of the people that do that to me is pretty small that have not received a negative from me and you both tend to make it into most QS threads.

I did say that I thought you were trying to bait me into giving a negative in a similar way that tspacepilot was, however the difference is that I was able to find information that proved tspacepilot is a scammer. 

Yes you did.

Setting up an escrow as asking the member to escrow the deal. Now what I know you have your own definition of words like "setting up". You have your own definition of "getting sued" as well. You don't even post from an account with your real name unlike me.


I just bolded the statement that "asking an escrow about a deal" doesn't mean that the deal is like a stone. You interpret the statements as per you understanding and leave a feedback which is irrelevant.

You still find me worthy of that feedback which openly proves that because I was criticizing you earlier, you dislike me. Leaving negative feedback for personal reasons is abusing the trust feedback. There is no accusation against me till date which proves that I backed out from a confirmed deal.

I never leave a person a feedback even if he has abused me. I don't even abuse him back even though I feel like. That's me. I will only leave a person a negative feedback is he has scammed me as I have the right and proof as well. I don't leave feedback which does not make any sense.


Wow! Excellent comment. All the people in this entire world who criticize you are my alts. I'm loving your way of judging people.  ;)

You forget when I said that QS uses proper grammar. But what to do? According to you I have been criticizing you from previous birth.

Trolling you? I'm trolling ISIS and atheists as well. How if I say that I doubt you are an ISIS member? You would love that too as I constantly post in their threads.



You are so mean. You want me to be accused of scamming or want to search an evidence where I have scammed a user. How much hatred dear and for what? Did I do anything wrong to you before? I don't even remember insulting you before and I have only voiced my opinion as a neutral user. I guess you would love to see me getting scammed. Proves what kind of a person you are. Not a trustworthy or reputed person but only a person who spreads hate and hates those who criticize him. This attitude won't help you dear.



You are forgetting something QS. I made this post after you gave me negative feedback. Although you claim that I always wanted you out of default trust. That was something you had against me as I used to criticize you. If I can remember, shorena also found fault with your feedback earlier.




You know what QS. People send me over $100 before confirming a deal with me and before getting a response. If I can't fulfill the deal, I refund their money. These are people whom I've never met in my life but it proves that how much they trust me and don't mind risking their money with me. I've earned their trust and not asked for it unlike you said in your earlier thread that an escrow needs trust.

No. That is not what is reasonable to say is what setting up escrow means. It would be ridiculous to think that a deal would be set in stone if someone were to simply help as escrow for a deal that may not even have a buyer yet - there wouldn't even be any deal to potentially be set in stone yet.

I do not have my own definition of getting sued.

No it does not. My feedback is fact based and does not reflect any personal opinions.

You do not need to have actually scammed to receive a negative. That however does not matter because I have never left you a negative trust rating, it was neutral the entire time. IMO the fact that you are making such a big deal out of a neutral rating is pretty clear evidence that your prior comments criticizing me was in fact baiting me to leave a negative in order to have a reason to complain to get me removed.

I am saying that the only two people who always show up in the QS threads are the same two people. That is my conclusion.

Too busy to look... has he been AXED finally? Is the wicked WITCH dead?

Oh so sad.

Erikalui keep fighting the good fight don't let QS bully you and know that many in the community support your efforts to call out this jerk.

Why are you quoting my religion? Please keep me being a Christian away from this and I am not interested if you are a Christian or not. I believe in being good in life and I don't believe in criticizing a person for no reason. Don't know for how long have you been carrying this dislike for me.

Negative or neutral doesn't make a difference. You gave me a feedback just based on a comment makes it look silly.


@bold: Why are you acting like a kid? I am actually imagining you jumping and running from one place to another that erikalui got me removed from the default trust. Mummmaa please help me. I got removed from the default trust.  So childish :D Please grow up dear. The default trust doesn't make a difference to you in real life nor does my feedback matter to me. (You have said this statement so many times in this thread that I have stopped the count  :D)

I never expected to get a negative rating from you nor did I try to provoke you. You got provoked on your own. LOL!

I don't care about the feedback you left me but your accusations were what made me upset and you calling me an alt and that I make small trades to earn trust. You yourself have admitted that my criticism has affected you. You finally lost your cool with my remarks and your mistake costed you to lose your position in the trusted feedback.

"Yes you have criticized me previously. I did not leave any kind of trust any of those large number of times. The fact that I left you a neutral in response to a post that you made that was critical of me is a consequence as the reason for the trust was because you openly stated that you were willing to back out of deals after all terms were agreed to." "The OP has spoken negatively about me a large number of times and the reason for the feedback just so happened to be on a post that was critical of me. Speaking critically of someone does not give them a free pass to say or engage in other scammy behavior."

I dint even write any such thing in my this thread and asked you a reason about the feedback. You have been holding a negative place in your heart for me and we eager to counter attack me which is hilarious.

Don't blame me for provoking you. I'll start laughing now.



Sorry but I don't support your words. I don't hate QS but his actions are not justified. His anger, arrogance and the way he assumes someone to be suspicious/scammer has led to his removal. I used to request him not to assume but he never listened to me and see his frustration now. He is blaming me when it should be the opposite.

There is a huge difference between a negative and neutral rating. A negative rating affects your trust score directly while a neutral is just comments. To say that I left you a negative is an outright lie. Period.

If you claim to not care about the feedback that I left you then what was the point of opening up this thread? ::)

The clear reason was this "This account was also likely purchased on or around February 2015, so the registration date and time online should not be considered to be accurate for this account."

How much time does it take a person to understand English?

Now I will keep this thread open as you made other accusations too against me and did not remove your feedback. Now it affects me as you are blaming me for your removal. Called me a sketchy user, suspicious and went on with your baseless claims. I don't feel I deserve it. Simple.

What reason do you have to leave me a negative feedback? There are people here who do not find it reasonable. Why do I deserve the feedback when you had a misunderstanding about me? I never even said that I will backout from a deal after confirming the trade so your feedback does not make any sense.


And yeah, I did not lie. By mistake I wrote negative feedback which will keep affecting you now.

Just remove it and the matter is closed. I don't want your name in my account. It will keep haunting me.

You don't have a negative rating. Nor have you ever had one from me. You saying that I have a negative against you is libel.

Your post history is consistent of a farmed account and farmed accounts are almost always either sold it for sale. My logic was valid.

If you don't care about feedback I left you then you would not care above the above statement. ::)

You do act very sketchy as you have often not accepted escrow while having a very limited trade history. Now why don't you tell me what user group is that consistent with?

I don't believe my interpretation of your statement was a misunderstanding however I am willing to compromise and note that you claim it to be a misunderstanding.

Be in the DefaultTrust list is an obsessions for everyone, if BadBear thought that remove quickseller was a right thing then probably he's right. However he can still continue leave trust, the unique thing is that his trust will not be trusted (from the point of view of the 'trust system) anymore.

You have a dislike for me that's what I meant.

@bold: Now who can understand this better than QS who has been doing this for ages. Account selling/sales are just ridiculous and mainly bought to scam others. Doesn't your behavior seem fishy as you might have sold accounts with feedback as well?

@blue: Appearing fishy or sketchy is fine. I don't want to get scammed by members over here and mind you, I have been inactive for 1.5 years and when I came here, people started screaming escrow escrow and recommending me their personal escrows. That's why I wasn't sure to use escrow till I was sure with whom I'm dealing with. MZ seemed cool and considerate and hence I chose him. It takes me time to understand who is trusted and who is not as my money was earned and not gifted to me. I often take precautions before trading as I've been cheated by my own family members so who are members here? I don't even know you personally nor others here.

@green: I would just request you to remove the rating. If anytime in future I do seem fishy with an escrow or in my trades, don't hesitate to add it but now it just seems senseless as I've not even backed out of my deals not have tried to. Me stating an example and you giving me a feedback for the same is weird. My having a sketchy behavior has nothing to do with your feedback rating. At least give me a chance to survive without having your account name on my account without having any dealings/trades that are fishy.


If you check my trades, you'll always realize that my prices are exact or too high. $5 Amazon for the same price, 1:1 transactions. I simply don't accept deals that will make me bear a loss and hence backing out of deals because I'll earn a profit is silly. MZ also knows that when I sold my Flipkart voucher worth Rs. 500, I sold it for the same rate $7.9.



I did not understand this before but now I can see the effect it has on members here.

Accounts are not mainly sold to scam others, however when combined with your sketchy behavior, I think a warning is appropriate if your account is in fact purchased.

I am not going to remove my rating. You got what you clearly wanted and got me removed from BadBear's list. My comments are factually accurate and give you a lot more leeway then is appropriate IMO. I am not going to remove my rating. You can petition theymos to get it removed if you want however I think it would be extremely unlikely considering that it is not spam.

You are welcome to try to figure out who is appropriate to trust with your money however that doesn't mean that you establish sketchy trading practices in the meantime.

I did not say in my comment that you backed out of a deal, I said that you openly admitted that you would back out of a deal if you could find another one on better terms. The context of the conversation was that of when the terms of a trade were confirmed and agreed to by all parties.

REply please ?

Glad that Badbear doesn't trust you anymore and this behavior will only bring you down in life QS. You have stooped so low in my eyes.

And regarding my account being purchased. I am a criminal lawyer's child and I don't hide using my alt accounts unlike you with your QS, AS accounts and you don't bother to fight with your real name. My account name has my real name as I have nothing to hide. I'm definitely more educated than you as I don't have any personal grudges against you and as you say that I wanted you out of the trust list. I don't care about you as a member QS. I don't know why are you giving yourself so much importance. I wouldn't even care about the PM of my country and get him out of the seat even though he is wasting my country's money. Why would I care about getting you out of a virtual trust list? Is this forum even so important in my life? May be it's important for you as you have the habit of creating multiple accounts and posting through each of them in order to earn some bitcoins. I still have my brain intact to use only my main account to post and not like you to create alt accounts and earn through them.

Don't remove your feedback as that gives you peace. I'm not going to lock this thread and will keep it open to show others what kind of a person you are.

Why would anyone want to use the services of someone that is anonymous. What is the great scam buster QS hiding? Clearly the sketchy person is the one hiding behind aliases.

OMG has quickseller actually been removed from default trust? 

The masses of scammers and would be, could be's, and those just under speculation must be celebrating in the streets. 

I can't say I disagree with the move but it is an interesting turn of events.

I agree but QS may need to be slow when leaving feedback. He is a good scambuster and I think he still can by posting evidences in Scam Accusations and someone else may leave negative feedback.

P.S. Looks like my rating is red. ;D

Actually I support quickseller on default trust. He's good to busting all scammer with well explanation reason.
Nah...I still can add quickseller into my trust list anyway


This is shocked  :o

The scammers are celebrating, just take a look at this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065498.0) as well as the OP of that thread's signature.

I think it is pretty clear that the OP had an agenda of wanting to get me removed from the default trust network. I looked through the last 7 pages of meta, and found 12 posts made by the OP that were critical of me (while ignoring posts in this thread) in various QS threads. I did find one post that spoke positively of me, however that was speaking positively of my grammar. To further test my hypothesis, I checked all other trust dispute related threads in the last 7 pages of meta and found a total of two posts made by the OP, neither of which were critical of the controversial trust ratings (despite what I think would be reasonably concluded that many/most trust ratings in other trust dispute threads are more controversial then the QS threads).

Additionally, this thread was opened on May 19, 2015, 09:57:50 AM, at which point I had received 0 PM's regarding my trust rating I had left the OP. At May 19, 2015, 10:09:52 AM, I received the first of which would become three PM's regarding the rating (it should also be noted that this thread was posted at 6:00 AM local time, and according to my posting stats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020;sa=statPanel), was the single hour where I made, by far the fewest posts, which would result in the greatest likelihood that I would not respond to this thread for a long time), and I saw this thread prior to having a chance to respond to the PM's and as a result I did not.

Furthermore, the OP has made several contradicting statements regarding her opinion regarding the trust rating I left her, even going as far as saying that she does not care about my rating:

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I would recommend adding me to your trust list. I went through my sent trust with an account that uses DefaultTrust in it's trust list and found 24 accounts that I left negative trust for that are showing as having neutral trust. This list does not include newbie accounts that were likely abandoned that had asked for a loan with no collateral, it is actual scammers (and their alts).I am working on gathering evidence about these accounts, and am trying to figure out what to do with them (opening 24 scam accusations would probably a) be considered spam, and b) would take up too much of my time).

I sent a PM to BadBear regarding his trust list, however I have yet to hear back from him. I would like to say that we have worked together on various issues enough that he would at least respond, however I haven't received any kind of communication from him regarding my sent ratings, so it is hard to say if he will respond or not.

From the looks of it, it looks like Meta is going to be a little bit quieter in the near future, while Scam Accusations will be much more active ::)

Oh come on QS. I still don't care about your trust rating but I'm happy that an arrogant person like you is affected by the default trust position. I did not know that you were obsessed by this position and you got removed because of your own bad deeds of cursing and criticizing me. I haven't done anything wrong on this forum nor will I ever do. People who want to trade with me will still do irrespective of my trust rating. I won't turn into a bad person just because of your arrogance.


You are trying to quote my contradicting statements? LOL! It shows me what kind of a person you are in real life.


1.The fact that you supported the cheat who wanted to scam me and my mother of $1000 and then you wanted to get me sued proves that it's not me who is wrong, it's you.

2. You went on to support a ponzi signature campaign as you were serving as an escrow. You did not even leave a negative on his account because you dint consider it important. Excellent as you served as an escrow right?

3. You created so many accounts and kept on posting through all of those accounts just to earn money to sell them. Selling accounts is unethical and immoral which you showed that you are.

4. You abuse people and hate those who criticize you. The fact that it is you who is screaming here on my thread that I kept criticizing you and wanted you out of the DF proves that you think so small of me when I haven't done anything wrong to you.

5. You make so many assumptions that anyone can be a scammer here which proves that your judgement cannot be trusted.



The issues you had with me:

1. I don't support escrow (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

2. I make the buyer go first (Makes me look like a scammer agree)

3. I said as an example that if I get a better trade, I can back out (I agree but I never said that it was a confirmed trade. That you wanted to assume so that you could leave a feedback which you were dying to do for so long. This got you out of the DF and you keep blaming me for that.)

4. You claim that this is a purchased account.

Anything else that's wrong with me?

1. I used MZ as an escrow for a deal.

2. I went first with MZ and even with another member of this forum who owns get-paid website.

3. I never backed out of any deal till date.

4. Badbear knows the truth and even MZ has proven that the BTC address is the same.


You can note the clear difference between me and you. All your claims have been proven false.



Now you are trying to message Badbear and talk bad about me to get your position back? Go ahead and show me your real side. That's what you are. Not a scam buster but just a show off.

Can we see evidence to support those scam claims?

That would be huge if it exists.

I can vouch that erikalui is a legitimate account. I have known this individual for a number of years as we were both members of EMS forum and did trades back then.

Even though I am no longer with that forum, I will also state that EMS reputation system is far superior to BCT's system as their's was a fair process(until you challenge the admins ;D). Bitcointalk seems to have a "Pre-crime" unit where people get blackballed before they commit an offensive deed. We as members are being subjected to unjust scrutiny and handed negative trust like candy if we "appear" suspicious to any "power-player" with an unknown agenda. In my opinion, this is an abusive reputation system which has already become exploited with corruption.

Quickseller is just another shady thief with way too much time on his hands and way too little respect for his own life. As the forum's most notorious account seller, he tries to shroud his reputation-damaging tomfoolery by pretending he is also a scam artist exposer. There's no quicker way to take the heat off yourself than by putting it on somebody else.

As he sells accounts for a living he single-handedly enables more scammers in this forum than anybody else, and if he doesn't like the words you have to say about him he will have a moderator delete your post.

Don't ever put Quickseller back on default trust again if you want this forum to have any credibility whatsoever. Its 99% gone by this point. Don't let QS take the remaining 1%.

I don't much about the politics here, I think Quickseller should be back on that  defaulted trust again everybody talk about. Now all the scammers light up all green again.  I saw a trust-farmer-scammer earlier which Quickseller has marked red, it was green today. And the little boy pretend that all the accusations against him is not true, if you just spend 2 minutes on the evidense Quickseller has posted then will you know the accusation is true.... Some say he is too quick to pull the trigger... I think it is best to pull the trigger first and ask later...... I like vod since he was always resonable...... If quickseller also gets resonable then is he a worthy guy to take vod's position.

If there was no valid reason for him being removed from the DF trust, then I guess he would have stayed but now it's not the case. The admin has removed him for a valid reason (which I feel is right).

This forum needs a person to track SCAMS only. I bolded the word as one needs to only track scams and not leave a warning on accounts just because a member has been critical of your ratings.

This members gets too personal if one disagrees with him and this statement proves it:


He doubts anyone to be anyone's alt. Why does he jump to conclusions so fast? TC was the one who added him in the DF trust list and he shouldn't forget that.


It's only a fantasy for members here to be in the DF trust list but they forget that they are here to track scammers instead of accusing every member as a scammer. There's a vast difference and not 100% of the members over here are here to scam others. I believe that there are sensible people as well who perform trades genuinely. If this member finds a scammer, he/she can report the same to Badbear or post in the scam accusation thread. It makes no difference if he/she is in the DF trust list. We all should contribute equally and make others alert of any scammer.

It's the lack of moderation which leads to scams and instead of asking for people to be in the DF trust list, I would like a moderator to be appointed and outlist scammers. Till then we have TC, Badbear and Theymos to save the community from scammers and I wouldn't blindly trust the feedback of a person and in doubt, escrow is an option for me.


Thanks for the vouch dear  :)

EMS is 100 times better in terms of the trust feedback and in my case when a scammer left me a revenge feedback, the admin removed it. The trust system and scams are moderated and hence very less people get scammed. Here the case is the opposite where all members are considered scammers. It seems one doesn't have any work in life except to scam  :D

well quickie boy... wait you're a GIRL ??

In the "real world" someone that can make decisions quickly, and think on his feet is valued and these are qualities that are generally considered good.

If you don't mind, can you give a few examples of when I was not reasonable with my ratings? There have been plenty of times when I removed my ratings after having a discussion with the person I gave a negative to, or after receiving additional evidence, etc.. Few of these ratings have a 'quickseller' thread about them because it never came to that, and also many scammers that receive a negative from me go straight to creating a thread trying to inflame me without ever sending a single PM