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Title: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: ak111in on May 27, 2015, 05:04:59 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Update:
Just to clarify this is not expected to replace your regular email. This can be used in specific cases like when you want to contact with someone whose bitcoin address is only known or in cases where you do not want to give your regular email address this can be an easy replacement. Eg:
>If you send bitcoins to some incorrect address, this can be used to send a message to the owner of that address.
>If you receive bitcoins from address and want to send some message to the sender this can be used.
>It can be used to register on untrusted services/websites.
Hope it clarifies the purpose of this service.



Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: twister on May 27, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Not a bad idea but I don't know if Gmail or other emails like it will allow so many characters as username. I'll try and see if it works.

They can be also used as twitter handles, again if they allow it i.e.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kexkey on May 27, 2015, 06:27:12 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...



Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: hasmukhrawal on May 27, 2015, 06:30:21 PM
it seems a bad idea to me because joining a btc address to an email address would create a bigger address and people don't like bigger email addresses.
they like it short.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: The Bad Guy on May 27, 2015, 06:36:30 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .
Also people prefer the short adresses because they are easy to remember instead of that . however it's not that bad , like the idea afterall


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Slark on May 27, 2015, 06:41:55 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...


No. Email is something you need to remember and use with ease, so good luck remembering these lines of numbers and letters of bitcoin address. For normal daily uses bitcoin address as email is total overkill and is counterproductive, too long, case sensitive. Maybe it will be only liked by ultra bitcoin nerds who want some geeky looking emails...


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: redsn0w on May 27, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...


No. Email is something you need to remember and use with ease, so good luck remembering these lines of numbers and letters of bitcoin address. For normal daily uses bitcoin address as email is total overkill and is counterproductive, too long, case sensitive. Maybe it will be only liked by ultra bitcoin nerds who want some geeky looking emails...

I know some people (in real life) that know their personal bitcoin address and they can spell or say it without any problem and especially by heart. I know it is against the bitcoin philosophy, 1-time-use but a I also think email address with a bitcoin address is not really a good thing (we need an alias system added directly in the bitcoin code).


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: twister on May 27, 2015, 06:59:01 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .

This is correct, it will not be the same. And bitcoin does care about that, every upper and lower case letters are different.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kexkey on May 27, 2015, 07:00:16 PM
It is tested with gmail and works fine, email id length is not an issue.

It is not expected to replace everyday email but to be used in cases where you do not want to share your actual email id.
Also in many cases the email id of a user is not known and only bitcoin address is known this can be useful in that case. Eg: You received bitcoins from some address and you want to send a message to the person,  it can be used in that case.

Exactly, the idea is good for certain use cases, as long as the e-mail provider supports case-sensitive local-part e-mail addresses.



Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: The Bad Guy on May 27, 2015, 07:04:34 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .

This is correct, it will not be the same. And bitcoin does care about that, every upper and lower case letters are different.

Well then it can be an issue I guess , it's not that useful after all .
Maybe it is for emailing but for sending bitcoins it's totally screwed up :o


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: amiryaqot on May 27, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...


No. Email is something you need to remember and use with ease, so good luck remembering these lines of numbers and letters of bitcoin address. For normal daily uses bitcoin address as email is total overkill and is counterproductive, too long, case sensitive. Maybe it will be only liked by ultra bitcoin nerds who want some geeky looking emails...

I know some people (in real life) that know their personal bitcoin address and they can spell or say it without any problem and especially by heart. I know it is against the bitcoin philosophy, 1-time-use but a I also think email address with a bitcoin address is not really a good thing (we need an alias system added directly in the bitcoin code).
yes that is nice suggestion to use an alias instead of bitcoin address because that will be against of privacy of us by using this email address we can easily traced from hackers and many people will be out of their bitcoins by this kind of method.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 27, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .
Also people prefer the short adresses because they are easy to remember instead of that . however it's not that bad , like the idea afterall

Are you allowed to start your email address with a number?
As far as I know some email providers do not allow that.
Apart from that, how are you going to handle the case sensitivity?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: spud21 on May 27, 2015, 07:34:14 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .
Also people prefer the short adresses because they are easy to remember instead of that . however it's not that bad , like the idea afterall

Are you allowed to start your email address with a number?
As far as I know some email providers do not allow that.
Apart from that, how are you going to handle the case sensitivity?

Gmail allows you to put a full stop anywhere in your email address. For example all the addresses below are treated as the same address by gmail.

Joe.bloggs@gmail.com
Joeb.loggs@gmail.com
Joeblo.ggs@gmail.com
Joeblog.gs@gmail.com
Joeblogg.s@gmail.com

Can the system handle that?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 27, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
But Bitcoin is anonymous, it means that no one will know your account just by read the address.
If you make this kind of thing, so it means that Bitcoin is not anonymous anymore :(


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: unamis76 on May 27, 2015, 07:50:04 PM
I can't really see why this is an advantage. It's another incentive to address reuse, and it makes an email huge as hell and non-memorizeable...


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: NorrisK on May 27, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...


No. Email is something you need to remember and use with ease, so good luck remembering these lines of numbers and letters of bitcoin address. For normal daily uses bitcoin address as email is total overkill and is counterproductive, too long, case sensitive. Maybe it will be only liked by ultra bitcoin nerds who want some geeky looking emails...

I know some people (in real life) that know their personal bitcoin address and they can spell or say it without any problem and especially by heart. I know it is against the bitcoin philosophy, 1-time-use but a I also think email address with a bitcoin address is not really a good thing (we need an alias system added directly in the bitcoin code).
yes that is nice suggestion to use an alias instead of bitcoin address because that will be against of privacy of us by using this email address we can easily traced from hackers and many people will be out of their bitcoins by this kind of method.

The alias was also the First thing that popped into my mind.

Using the alias email, and when you want to send funds to someone, just press the send coins button in the address.

Really easy and practical for instance when repaying a friend or so!


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Amitabh S on May 27, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: coinpr0n on May 27, 2015, 08:09:47 PM
If there was a cool TLD (hmmm like .bit? or maybe .xbt) and they were cheap enough it could become a thing to register your address 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.xbt (http://1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa.xbt) and have email autoresponders or forwarding with them. Of course due to case-sensitivity again there wouldn't be enough domains for EVERY address.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: luv2drnkbr on May 27, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.

You can already do this right now with namecoin integration.  Bitmessage does this.

What we need to make this spread far and wide is a method of making the namecoin current name set SPV compatible.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: dollarneed on May 28, 2015, 01:37:38 AM
It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.

yup multitasking, not bad :)


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: BIT-Sharon on May 28, 2015, 01:56:08 AM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info


Maybe @bitcoinm.info is better for short.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: thebenjamincode on May 28, 2015, 02:31:19 AM
in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: bornil267645 on May 28, 2015, 04:02:36 AM
Why go through so much trouble while you can have a simple and easy Email address. And why put your BTC address on the line, we have plenty of things to put in our email address. I like it mine simple, not zigzag like my BTC address.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kprawn on May 28, 2015, 06:20:32 AM
My idea with a email address is to keep it as short as possible. Imagine giving that BTC email adress to someone over the telephone... :o

In many sites, you have to login with your email address, and to have to copy and paste it, every time you have to use it, will become tedious.

It might be a good idea, if you want to link email messages from certain services to your BTC address, but it's making things more complex.

The only positive thing... The uniqueness of the address {The chance is VERY low, that it would have been used before}  ;D   ....I would rather use it as a Username on sites.  ::)


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: XCASH on May 28, 2015, 06:32:47 AM
My idea with a email address is to keep it as short as possible. Imagine giving that BTC email adress to someone over the telephone... :o

In many sites, you have to login with your email address, and to have to copy and paste it, every time you have to use it, will become tedious.

It might be a good idea, if you want to link email messages from certain services to your BTC address, but it's making things more complex.

The only positive thing... The uniqueness of the address {The chance is VERY low, that it would have been used before}  ;D   ....I would rather use it as a Username on sites.  ::)

That's a good point, if we took it further and used Bitcoin addresses as user names here then it would create extreme confusion. Nobody would know who they were replying to because all the addresses look so similar. Also, it would be easier to fake a username/email by using vanitygen to generate an address with exactly the same first few characters as somebody else's address. People would be tricked by it because they would probably get lazy and only check the first few characters of an address.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: The Bad Guy on May 28, 2015, 06:34:59 AM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

I just tried to create something simillar using gmail and they allowed me , however gmail don't put upper and lower cases as should be . so basically if you send one your email .. and you tell him that it is your adress and he want to send you a TIP or whatever ... how he will know the upper cases ? (Not sure if Bitcoin care about that too) .
Also people prefer the short adresses because they are easy to remember instead of that . however it's not that bad , like the idea afterall

Are you allowed to start your email address with a number?
As far as I know some email providers do not allow that.
Apart from that, how are you going to handle the case sensitivity?


Yes you are able to do that (I mean adding number at the start of the email) . However you can't handle the case sensitivity so it's useless basically . means you can get the email from a bitcoin adress (because emails don't care about case sensitivity) but you can't get the Bitcoin adress from the email (because Bitcoin does care about the case sensitivity) .



Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on May 28, 2015, 06:46:49 AM
If the actual e-mail address aka alias e-mail was redirected towards a Bitcoin e-mail address then that would be a bit interesting
Not sure it would really add a layer of security having a name layer easy to remember address to give out then a Bitcoin address to forward to and read messages from it but it would be amusing to forward e-mails to it and see hackers break the wrong e-mail account if you constantly delete the alias addresses messages.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 06:47:51 AM
in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: The Bad Guy on May 28, 2015, 06:58:15 AM
in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.
Why do you say that case sensitivity cannot be handled, as far as I have tested all the email services pass "to email address" with the correct case so once my server gets the case sensitive "to email address" it handles it correctly in case sensitive way. You can check by sending the email to 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu@bitcoinmessages.info and it will be received at addresses 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu respectively.
If you are thinking the other way like from 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu@bitcoinmessages.info to your gmail address, still you will see the proper sender as gmail does not have to resolve case sensitive receiver as in this case the receiver is your gmail address. Please correct me if I am missing something.

You probably didn't understand me right on the first place man .
Try to create a Gmail account now with any of your Bitcoin adresses , once it's done your adress will showup with low cases once again. so let's say you give that adress with low sensitive to someone , yes he will be able to send you an email but imagine if he wants to send you some BTC's while he know that your email = your BTC adress ,he couldn't because the adress of email is low sensitive while bitcoin should have upper and lower cases .


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Amph on May 28, 2015, 07:24:06 AM
It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.

how this can work without a specific domain? you mean an integrated email fuction in the client directly? it could work only in that case, without using third party


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 07:25:50 AM
in my own opinion its very hard if your email address is bitcoin

because if a friend of mine needs my email and we are just talking to each other using a telephone then it will be hard to get our mail

That is true.
But then again, and once again, that is something you will have to worry about if you can sort the case sensitivity problem first.
Why do you say that case sensitivity cannot be handled, as far as I have tested all the email services pass "to email address" with the correct case so once my server gets the case sensitive "to email address" it handles it correctly in case sensitive way. You can check by sending the email to 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu@bitcoinmessages.info and it will be received at addresses 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu respectively.
If you are thinking the other way like from 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info and 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRu@bitcoinmessages.info to your gmail address, still you will see the proper sender as gmail does not have to resolve case sensitive receiver as in this case the receiver is your gmail address. Please correct me if I am missing something.

Yeah, well, the server mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: pooya87 on May 28, 2015, 07:36:36 AM
i think this is a good idea but has some flaws in it.

the long address might create some problems, while sending email you might not be able to put so many characters as the receiver's address. besides the long address makes it hard to remember or give to anyone.

also there is no difference between lower case and upper case letters in email address so it can be a problem since bitcoin address has both.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: sima_sara on May 28, 2015, 07:51:13 AM
Thanks for clarification.  was a bit confused on the concept of email and relation to email. 


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 07:56:08 AM
Yeah, well, the server mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?


Ok so I sent a mail from 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info to my gmail address and it is showing the sender email address fine (in proper case). I also tried reply on the email and it was successfully received at my bitcoin email address.
However currently email ids at bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails.


OK, I am a little bit confused here...
You have sent an email to your Gmail account which arrived to your Gmail with the sender address as is shown above (both Upper and lowercase),
yet bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails?

How does that work?

EDIT: Also, how do you plan on handling things when 2 or more addresses are the same with the only difference some capital or lowercase letters?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
Also, this is how you would give out your email address (1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long.....  ::)

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Josef27 on May 28, 2015, 08:11:25 AM
And way more easier to get spammed by e-mail advertiser. ;D


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: dsyahputera on May 28, 2015, 08:12:14 AM
Also, this is how you would give out your email address (1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long.....  ::)

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?
Just give your regular email address to someone ;)

Just to clarify this is not expected to replace your regular email. This can be used in specific cases like when you want to contact with someone whose bitcoin address is only known or in cases where you do not want to give your regular email address this can be an easy replacement.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Kyraishi on May 28, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
Yeah, well, the server mail client will probably automatically turn everything to lowercase.
That is not your bitcoin address though.

Example: You own 1XXxxXxXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxxxX
You mail someone using that email address...
What they get is: 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So, you tell me...
Do you see the problem there?


Ok so I sent a mail from 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info to my gmail address and it is showing the sender email address fine (in proper case). I also tried reply on the email and it was successfully received at my bitcoin email address.
However currently email ids at bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails.


OK, I am a little bit confused here...
You have sent an email to your Gmail account which arrived to your Gmail with the sender address as is shown above (both Upper and lowercase),
yet bitcoinmessages.info can only be used to receive emails?

How does that work?


I sent the mail through test account and in general sending email through bitcoinmessages.info email addresses is not available.
EDIT: Also, how do you plan on handling things when 2 or more addresses are the same with the only difference some capital or lowercase letters?

You can read it in my previous messages.

Also, this is how you would give out your email address (1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info) to someone:

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u @bitcoinmessages.info

Well, that didn't take long.....  ::)

Oh, did I get everything right, or did I get a letter wrong there?

As I have explained earlier this is not a replacement for your general email and thus this is not how it is supposed to work unless you tell everyone your bitcoin address 1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU like :

One, Capital k, capital w, lowercase d, two, three, capital g, capital z, four, capital b, lowercase m, capital t, capital m, lowercase o, nine, lowercase z, lowercase c, lowercase s, capital u, capital z, capital x, lowercase p, capital w, capital p, four, capital m, eight, lowercase h, lowercase m, lowercase x, capital z, lowercase w, capital r, capital u

Then hope to recieve your funds :)

OK, gotcha.
I have just noticed that you have updated your OP.
Sorry bout that  :D


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Josef27 on May 28, 2015, 08:20:36 AM
And way more easier to get spammed by e-mail advertiser. ;D

Thats the point you give your bitcoin address so that all the spam goes there and not into your actual email address. Then you move to new bitcoin email along with your new bitcoin address.

Or just create another e-mail account..?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Ingatqhvq on May 28, 2015, 09:36:21 AM
It is too long to be remembered. So it's not a good ideas. beside, people really want a special address not a serial nonsense letters.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: cassini on May 28, 2015, 12:35:29 PM
Just to clarify this is not expected to replace your regular email
The solution is: Bitmessage. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128230.0

And if you don't like those long bitmessage addresses then attach the Bitmessage client to a local Namecoin client and make use of Namecoin's id/ (https://nameid.org/) feature. You get a system that:

  • is censorship-resistant
  • is 100% decentralized
  • doesn't leave traces on the network ("meta data")
  • solves Zooko's Triangle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko's_triangle)

If you still insist on using a Bitcoin address for sending a message, this would require a small piece of software (actually a simple Python script) that searches the id/ directory for a Bitcoin address.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Amph on May 28, 2015, 12:38:14 PM
And way more easier to get spammed by e-mail advertiser. ;D

Thats the point you give your bitcoin address so that all the spam goes there and not into your actual email address. Then you move to new bitcoin email along with your new bitcoin address.

actually you will receive more spam in the form of bitcoin fee, like the recent ponzi spam of 10k satoshi, so you can see it as a way to make money, without doing nothing...


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: maheshmahi on May 28, 2015, 05:50:08 PM
Sounds interesting but i think it's not good to use like that because using that email may become long and crappy and also not easy to remember....


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: bitllionaire on May 28, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
It would be interesting to use bitcoin addresses as email address.
Try it out:
"yourbitcoinaddress"@bitcoinmessages.info

Eg:
1KWd23GZ4BmTMo9zcsUZXpWP4M8hmxZwRU@bitcoinmessages.info

Could be a good idea, the problem is that even if the RFC states that local-part (before the @) of the address is case sensitive, most e-mail providers make the e-mail address case insensitive to avoid confusion.

And we know case sensitivity is crucial in a Bitcoin address...


No. Email is something you need to remember and use with ease, so good luck remembering these lines of numbers and letters of bitcoin address. For normal daily uses bitcoin address as email is total overkill and is counterproductive, too long, case sensitive. Maybe it will be only liked by ultra bitcoin nerds who want some geeky looking emails...

I think like you,What would be the purpose of using bitcoin addresses like emails?
Ithink bitmessage is a better solution


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: dsyahputera on May 29, 2015, 01:32:46 AM
Sounds interesting but i think it's not good to use like that because using that email may become long and crappy and also not easy to remember....
Don't you understand about the case?

Just to clarify this is not expected to replace your regular email. This can be used in specific cases like when you want to contact with someone whose bitcoin address is only known or in cases where you do not want to give your regular email address this can be an easy replacement.

By the way, you said that will not easy to remember, that's same with your Bitcoin address.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: pereira4 on May 29, 2015, 08:01:30 PM
It would be better if the bitcoin address is the email address. So I can send some bitcoins to 1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC or send an email to it.
You can use Bitmessage or just sign a message with your transaction, just send a tiny amount of BTC. I don't see any benefits doing what OP suggests IMO. Linking personal information with BTC signatures is not a good idea generally.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: bitcoinwhoswho on May 29, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
Can everybody see the messages on the block chain (if choose public message type)? Could be a way of public shaming fraud/scam involved addresses.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: coinpr0n on May 29, 2015, 11:05:19 PM
Can everybody see the messages on the block chain (if choose public message type)? Could be a way of public shaming fraud/scam involved addresses.

I don't think Bitmessages actually runs on the blockchain if that's what you're asking. They probably have their own database to store public / private messages.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: cellard on May 29, 2015, 11:20:36 PM
Can everybody see the messages on the block chain (if choose public message type)? Could be a way of public shaming fraud/scam involved addresses.

I don't think Bitmessages actually runs on the blockchain if that's what you're asking. They probably have their own database to store public / private messages.

I think this is the case. In any case one could sign an encrypted message.
In general emails aren't safe, there is a reason why this forum doesn't require email confirmations. Even satoshi's email ended up compromised.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: real789 on May 30, 2015, 02:54:13 AM
That not bad
Good idea but i think very hard to remember email

why if no internet near but some one want to know your email to share some document ?


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: BADecker on May 30, 2015, 03:01:20 AM
it seems a bad idea to me because joining a btc address to an email address would create a bigger address and people don't like bigger email addresses.
they like it short.

Mabe we could start spamming people, and use fake Bitcoin addresses to do it.

 :D


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: redsn0w on May 30, 2015, 08:40:18 AM
yes that is nice suggestion to use an alias instead of bitcoin address because that will be against of privacy of us by using this email address we can easily traced from hackers and many people will be out of their bitcoins by this kind of method.

Like the NXT alias system, but I think it will be really difficult to add this option to bitcoin (waiting someone with more knowledge of me, to reply...).



The alias was also the First thing that popped into my mind.

Using the alias email, and when you want to send funds to someone, just press the send coins button in the address.

Really easy and practical for instance when repaying a friend or so!

This, it can be added to the bitcoin core client so people can send email/messages direclty from the wallet... but maybe I'm dreaming  ;D.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: amiryaqot on May 30, 2015, 08:50:20 AM
yes that is nice suggestion to use an alias instead of bitcoin address because that will be against of privacy of us by using this email address we can easily traced from hackers and many people will be out of their bitcoins by this kind of method.

Like the NXT alias system, but I think it will be really difficult to add this option to bitcoin (waiting someone with more knowledge of me, to reply...).



The alias was also the First thing that popped into my mind.

Using the alias email, and when you want to send funds to someone, just press the send coins button in the address.

Really easy and practical for instance when repaying a friend or so!

This, it can be added to the bitcoin core client so people can send email/messages direclty from the wallet... but maybe I'm dreaming  ;D.

i hope so in future we will see this feature to send receive just need to add this one into bitcoin core client but i think any person from technical staff can help us about this it can be added to there or not, decentralized mail system will be great addition to bitcoin network. 


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: xiionqz on May 30, 2015, 12:13:48 PM
it would be hard to remember if using bitcoin address as gmail


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: real789 on May 31, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
How about add note in blockchain addres with your email,,,? I think that simple than use adress btc


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: hasmukhrawal on June 16, 2015, 02:46:34 PM
it seems a bad idea to me because joining a btc address to an email address would create a bigger address and people don't like bigger email addresses.
they like it short.

Mabe we could start spamming people, and use fake Bitcoin addresses to do it.

 :D
may be you are joking , may be not. but the thing is,i dont like spamming !! ;D


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: jacktheking on June 16, 2015, 02:53:15 PM
Sent a message to myself (1K3JttmxEQkKZGvdm9pSm6Rx8R42ftKok3). Anyway, is this decentralized? I dont think it is. If it is decentralized, I would attract more people.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: ranochigo on June 16, 2015, 03:29:32 PM
How about add note in blockchain addres with your email,,,? I think that simple than use adress btc
You can't really add a note in using Bitcoin transaction or anything. Those messages you see on Blockchain.info is embedded by users who adds them using Blockchain.info wallet and isn't visible on other block explorers. Pretty worthless I would say since a data loss will result in the messages being lost.


Title: Re: Using bitcoin adddress as email
Post by: Argwai96 on June 16, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
Using my wallet address to receive emails could be a bit to crazy when it comes to give out my email over the phone or people, then again is pretty cool.