Title: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: GTA on June 09, 2015, 08:57:45 AM http://i59.tinypic.com/hs126w.jpg
There is just no general consensus on the profitability of cloud mining. Some cloud mining companies are just not trustworthy. Experts say there's a simple way (http://cointelegraph.com/news/114485/is-bitcoin-mining-really-a-ponzi-scheme-op-ed?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=bitcointalk&utm_term=evg) to tell if a cloud mining company will turn out a scam. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 09, 2015, 10:13:32 AM Unless they've proven they actually have hardware the chances of them being a scam is pretty high. As with everything else invest wisely and only what you can afford to lose.
Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: marcotheminer on June 09, 2015, 10:17:00 AM No, not all cloudmining services are scams/ponzis.
https://bit-x.com and hashnest are those that come to mind that are legitimate. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Bitdonator on June 09, 2015, 11:09:55 AM No, not all cloudmining services are scams/ponzis. https://bit-x.com and hashnest are those that come to mind that are legitimate. +1 Bit-x is still new, but very trustworth website. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Xialla on June 09, 2015, 11:18:34 AM No, not all cloudmining services are scams/ponzis. https://bit-x.com and hashnest are those that come to mind that are legitimate. yeah, you are one of examples, that it can work, anyway generally "cloud mining" is for me: 1* non profitable 2* ponzi scam :( Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: ajareselde on June 09, 2015, 11:36:39 AM No, not all cloudmining services are scams/ponzis. https://bit-x.com and hashnest are those that come to mind that are legitimate. yeah, you are one of examples, that it can work, anyway generally "cloud mining" is for me: 1* non profitable 2* ponzi scam :( Agreed. The only difference is the time it will be needed for you to loose you investment (in 99.9% cases). With ponzi you loose fast, and with legitimate cloud mining your death is slow and painful to watch. Just think about it; you are no longer mining yourself, but are involving third party to do the mining, it's obvious to see that you are the last one in the food chain in that case, which comes with little or no reward at all. My advice is; if you can't mine yourself, don't mine at all. cheers Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: zecexe on June 10, 2015, 02:42:52 AM Is Bitcoin Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme?
Obviously from the experiences of most people it is because people are getting ripped off! Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Alley on June 10, 2015, 02:51:02 AM Why would a cloud mining service not just mine themselves and keep bitcoins? Answer: they make more contracting to suckers.
Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: MCHouston on June 10, 2015, 02:51:24 AM Is Bitcoin Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Obviously from the experiences of most people it is because people are getting ripped off! No, just a lot of so called Bitcoin cloud mining companies are Ponzi schemes. Bitcoin mining itself is not a Ponzi scheme. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: BTCjust on June 10, 2015, 04:33:34 AM all cloud mining are scams, not only ponzi
Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: anderson00673 on June 10, 2015, 06:02:40 AM I must disagree that cloud mining is not profitable. Using hashnest I was getting a pretty good return, then when the price of hash went up I sold. Their market has no transaction fee. I didn't have to wait until ROI, because the hash does not expire on a specific date. It expires when it no longer exceeds the maintenance fee.
If a cloud miner charges a maintenance fee that is generally a good thing. Of course there are many shady looking sites out there but to say that cloud mining is not profitable by nature is incorrect. You just have to understand what the investment is and how to best use it. DO your own calculations and decide for yourself. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Vitamin King on June 10, 2015, 02:29:12 PM http://i59.tinypic.com/hs126w.jpg There is just no general consensus on the profitability of cloud mining. Some cloud mining companies are just not trustworthy. Experts say there's a simple way (http://cointelegraph.com/news/114485/is-bitcoin-mining-really-a-ponzi-scheme-op-ed?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=bitcointalk&utm_term=evg) to tell if a cloud mining company will turn out a scam. I like this quote in the article... Quote “If you draw an analogy between recent projects that have deceived their clients and closed down, you will notice that they all share several traits: short lifespan and the promise of a very high ROI, such as 200-400% per year.” Being an user of www.CloudMining.website for several months, I can now comfortably assume that it does not satisfy any of thee traits... 1. Lifespan: It is paying consistently for seven months now. Payment proof: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php 2. ROI: It does not promise anything on ROI at all. In fact, it took ~125 days for me to ROI on CMW, whereas a third party mining monitor reported to have ROI with them within ~114 days... http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/03/02/cmmonitor1.png Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 10, 2015, 03:06:21 PM http://i59.tinypic.com/hs126w.jpg There is just no general consensus on the profitability of cloud mining. Some cloud mining companies are just not trustworthy. Experts say there's a simple way (http://cointelegraph.com/news/114485/is-bitcoin-mining-really-a-ponzi-scheme-op-ed?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=bitcointalk&utm_term=evg) to tell if a cloud mining company will turn out a scam. I like this quote in the article... Quote “If you draw an analogy between recent projects that have deceived their clients and closed down, you will notice that they all share several traits: short lifespan and the promise of a very high ROI, such as 200-400% per year.” Being an user of www.CloudMining.website for several months, I can now comfortably assume that it does not satisfy any of thee traits... 1. Lifespan: It is paying consistently for seven months now. Payment proof: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php 2. ROI: It does not promise anything on ROI at all. In fact, it took ~125 days for me to ROI on CMW, whereas a third party mining monitor reported to have ROI with them within ~114 days... [ img]http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/03/02/cmmonitor1.png[/img] @OP: If you haven't seen a ponzi promoter, see above. He is one of the active ponzi promoter. I highly recommend not to invest in that site. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: SpanishSoldier on June 10, 2015, 06:44:33 PM @OP: If you haven't seen a ponzi promoter, see above. He is one of the active ponzi promoter. I highly recommend not to invest in that site. Any specific reason of your silence behind Bit-X inability to show their mining address so far ? Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: rammy2k2 on June 10, 2015, 06:48:45 PM so far all cloud mining companies turned out to be 100% PONZI / SCAM
Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: marcotheminer on June 10, 2015, 07:31:15 PM so far all cloud mining companies turned out to be 100% PONZI / SCAM There are still some (Bit-X, Hashnest) operating legitimately. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: mrhelpful on June 10, 2015, 07:53:33 PM Id just pick the ones that actually produce the asics, meaning they should be a mining company as well.
but its based on your homework, and what precautions you take. like if they accept credit card, you also have a protection on purchases. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: waterpile on June 10, 2015, 08:15:33 PM Why would a cloud mining service not just mine themselves and keep bitcoins? Answer: they make more contracting to suckers. I agree, waiting for 6months ROI is just a bother.. you don't know whats the price of BTC in that time Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: techgeek on June 10, 2015, 08:44:30 PM Why would a cloud mining service not just mine themselves and keep bitcoins? Answer: they make more contracting to suckers. I agree, waiting for 6months ROI is just a bother.. you don't know whats the price of BTC in that time Well thats why its a risk right lol. Anything you invest has some levels of risk, just have to know how to off-set it. I wouldnt really bother cause 6 months is really a long time. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: tmfp on June 10, 2015, 09:45:35 PM @OP: If you haven't seen a ponzi promoter, see above. He is one of the active ponzi promoter. I highly recommend not to invest in that site. Any specific reason of your silence behind Bit-X inability to show their mining address so far ? Any specific reason for Cloudmining.website's inability to show any proof that they mine at all so far? Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: waterpile on June 10, 2015, 11:19:04 PM @OP: If you haven't seen a ponzi promoter, see above. He is one of the active ponzi promoter. I highly recommend not to invest in that site. Any specific reason of your silence behind Bit-X inability to show their mining address so far ? Any specific reason for Cloudmining.website's inability to show any proof that they mine at all so far? Its really the same with all cloud ponzi mining services, they don't need to provide evidences of their miners because there are suckers that are willing to give them free money.. Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Phildo on June 11, 2015, 01:10:58 AM http://i59.tinypic.com/hs126w.jpg There is just no general consensus on the profitability of cloud mining. Some cloud mining companies are just not trustworthy. Experts say there's a simple way (http://cointelegraph.com/news/114485/is-bitcoin-mining-really-a-ponzi-scheme-op-ed?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=bitcointalk&utm_term=evg) to tell if a cloud mining company will turn out a scam. I like this quote in the article... Quote “If you draw an analogy between recent projects that have deceived their clients and closed down, you will notice that they all share several traits: short lifespan and the promise of a very high ROI, such as 200-400% per year.” Being an user of www.CloudMining.website for several months, I can now comfortably assume that it does not satisfy any of thee traits... 1. Lifespan: It is paying consistently for seven months now. Payment proof: www.cloudmining.website/payments.php 2. ROI: It does not promise anything on ROI at all. In fact, it took ~125 days for me to ROI on CMW, whereas a third party mining monitor reported to have ROI with them within ~114 days... http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/03/02/cmmonitor1.png That guy made a roi on his 2 dollar investment, everyone run and give them all your money, we'll all be rich in no time!!!! Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Phildo on June 11, 2015, 01:11:58 AM If the miners are profitable why would they rent them out to you for less than they can make plugging them in?
If the miners aren't profitable why would they waste the money they spend on the miners, electricity, bandwith, etc when they can just give you your money back slowly over time? Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: waterpile on June 11, 2015, 01:21:51 AM Why would a cloud mining service not just mine themselves and keep bitcoins? Answer: they make more contracting to suckers. I agree, waiting for 6months ROI is just a bother.. you don't know whats the price of BTC in that time Well thats why its a risk right lol. Anything you invest has some levels of risk, just have to know how to off-set it. I wouldnt really bother cause 6 months is really a long time. I know that it has a risk but i can't understand why people would willingly risk their money and wait for 6months to ROI when it is an obvious scam.. so lets say you got your ROI but afterwards they suddenly vanished.. you've waited for 6mos and got nothing LOL Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: bajing on June 12, 2015, 01:42:39 AM yes, some company cloud mining now is ponzi scheme. many cloud mining ending with scam after 6-8 month
Title: Re: Is Cloud Mining Really a Ponzi Scheme? Post by: Amph on June 12, 2015, 08:29:44 AM if they can't provide a video or a photo of their machines(and not fake foto like that infamous ponzi cloud), one could argue about that, it would be too easy to just build a site and set it like a cloud and then call it a cloud, while behind the scene there is nothing to backup it, thus making it a blatant ponzi
still some companies are legit and some of them deploy their miners only if you use their service, like hashnest, so maybe the above rule isn't working for every site... |