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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 09:55:21 AM



Title: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 09:55:21 AM
What happened:
User clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 Bitcoins during a Sia-Altcoin deal. We agreed on a price and then he insisted that I send first, declined using any escrow, I even offered to pay the fees.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=392163

Payment Method:
Bitcoin --> Siacoin

PM/Chat Logs:
http://imgur.com/ahscXH6

Selling some siacoin?


How much are you willing to buy coins and at what price for a coin?

I can match the best price atm and buy 20-30 M for 0.05btc/Mil

Well, I'm selling you 30 M for 0.05btc / Mil,Here's my Bitcoin wallet -18xGjojXvqKFQGn5Wy6Jpbk4XavWrmQphV , here to submit your Bitcoins, and give me your wallet for your coins



we can do this with escrow, or with you sending first to my sia address.  

652752ae447e629e07d6d386ea945e257eba1d26bda48083809cbe086ea838b7

We can do it 5 mils at a time if you wish.

You can trust me, check my feedback and escrow thread. if you don't trust me we can use escrow like tomatocage, but you have to pay the 1% fee.

No, first you send me the money or I'm selling them in another place, I offered to buy them at a lower price, but once all 80 million.

so you don't want to use escrow? be careful here

I will buy all your siacoins for 0.05 mil if we use escrow; if you decline using escrow and insist that I send first to you, this means you are a 100% scammer.

I do not force them to buy from me.


Ok then, be aware you declined using escrow for a deal of 4 Bitcoins. I will now start a scam accusation thread, as it seems your intentions are to scam people.

PS. I am also willing to pay the 1% escrow fee, so you don't have anything to lose. You can chose the escrow as well. This is my last offer.

I do not want to have affairs with you.

Additional Notes:  

I advise you to not deal with this user!


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: syuhide on June 09, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
LOL he is online... ;D

clipman77 (http://clipman77) want to hear your reply here...


BTW thanks for your reply OP, will keep this in mind. :-X


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 09, 2015, 12:55:00 PM
This man is a swindler, he began to write to me and force me to sell him the coins that I have successfully sold to another person, maybe he was just hurt.

http://i70.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0609/db/1cc0af67b7e60df726344c65fa2451db.jpg


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: EcuaMobi on June 09, 2015, 01:14:41 PM
This man is a swindler, he began to write to me and force me to sell him the coins that I have successfully sold to another person, maybe he was just hurt.

[img ]http://i70.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0609/db/1cc0af67b7e60df726344c65fa2451db.jpg[/img]

Yes that PM was published by OP along with the one where he offers to pay the escrow fee and let you choose the escrow. It's extremely fishy that you changed your mind radically when he mentioned escrow. Can you explain why?

From the PMs it appears as if you preferred to sell at a lower price in order to avoid using escrow. Is any of the information posted by OP false? Can I ask whom you sold the coins to instead? Did he send first to you? Can he confirm he got the coins afterwards? If he's a somewhat trusted user his input would be useful.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 09, 2015, 01:42:45 PM
I sold coins man not from this forum, he turned to me via Skype, which I left in the announcements at an auction.Service escrow through which I was offered to make an exchange, I do not trust.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Quickseller on June 09, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
I sold coins man not from this forum, he turned to me via Skype, which I left in the announcements at an auction.Service escrow through which I was offered to make an exchange, I do not trust.
that sounds like 100% BS to me.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 01:46:25 PM
This man is a swindler, he began to write to me and force me to sell him the coins that I have successfully sold to another person, maybe he was just hurt.

*snap*

How exactly did I force you to sell to me? Read our whole message history please.



I sold coins man not from this forum, he turned to me via Skype, which I left in the announcements at an auction.

Can you prove you were ever in possession of 80 Milion Siacoins? Like show us the tx selling them? You posted in the main ANN thread and that's the reason I contacted you. Will remove this if you can prove you owned so many coins. Cheers.


 


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 01:50:55 PM
I sold coins man not from this forum, he turned to me via Skype, which I left in the announcements at an auction.Service escrow through which I was offered to make an exchange, I do not trust.
that sounds like 100% BS to me.

Yes indeed. Actually 80 Mil is about 10% of the total mined coins and yesterday he posted in the "How much you earned today":

I get one dollar a day.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 09, 2015, 01:58:05 PM
Yes indeed. Actually 80 Mil is about 10% of the total mined coins and yesterday he posted in the "How much you earned today":

I get one dollar a day.


It has been said about the signatures in the forum.


Quote
Can you prove you were ever in possession of 80 Milion Siacoins? Like show us the tx selling them? You posted in the main ANN thread and that's the reason I contacted you. Will remove this if you can prove you owned so many coins. Cheers.

I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not brag about your money here.



Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 02:00:13 PM
Yes indeed. Actually 80 Mil is about 10% of the total mined coins and yesterday he posted in the "How much you earned today":

I get one dollar a day.


It has been said about the signatures in the forum.


Quote
Can you prove you were ever in possession of 80 Milion Siacoins? Like show us the tx selling them? You posted in the main ANN thread and that's the reason I contacted you. Will remove this if you can prove you owned so many coins. Cheers.

I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not hvastatsya their money here.



What?


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: EcuaMobi on June 09, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
After all the nonsense, obvious lies and attempts to derive the subject of discussion posted by clipman77 it's clear he tried to scam OP.

I'm updating my feedback to negative. Someone from default trust should leave a negative feedback too to prevent more scam attempts.

Edit: Thanks TC


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Tomatocage on June 09, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not brag about your money here.

Wait, he robbed you? How?



Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not brag about your money here.

Wait, he robbed you? How?



Yes please explain, how?


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 09, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not brag about your money here.

Wait, he robbed you? How?



Yes please explain, how?

You have caused me damages.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Tomatocage on June 09, 2015, 03:08:20 PM
You have caused me damages.

Can you elaborate on this? How much did he steal from you, and how did he orchestrate the alleged theft?


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Quickseller on June 09, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
You have caused me damages.

Can you elaborate on this? How much did he steal from you, and how did he orchestrate the alleged theft?
It is simple really. The OP opened this scam allegation and as a result his reputation is ruined and will most likely not be able to scam someone else. The OP effectively "stole" 4 BTC from him because he can most likely no longer scam with this account

I use the word "stole" in quotations because the money was never his and the money would have been stolen itself.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 09, 2015, 03:13:26 PM
You have caused me damages.

Can you elaborate on this? How much did he steal from you, and how did he orchestrate the alleged theft?

I cant tell you anything because I threatened.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 03:20:14 PM
You have caused me damages.

Can you elaborate on this? How much did he steal from you, and how did he orchestrate the alleged theft?

I cant tell you anything because I threatened.

Why do you feel threatened? The only conversation we ever had is public in OP.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: syuhide on June 09, 2015, 04:38:46 PM
I'm afraid that you robbed me and I will not brag about your money here.

Wait, he robbed you? How?



Yes please explain, how?

You have caused me damages.

well thats really sounds funny..
i have heard of distance relationship,distance education...heard this time distance damage.. ;)


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 06:32:38 PM
So I just received a negative feedback from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=520476

"Beware scammer"

I guess this is his newly created account.



Edit:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey,

any idea why you gave me this feedback?

send 0.1 btc i will delete my feedback

this is my address 1KZrMMAaW5iiSEzh8Tfxcv6oiTEH72bQmR



Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 09, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
So I just received a negative feedback from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=520476

"Beware scammer"

I guess this is his newly created account.



Edit:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey,

any idea why you gave me this feedback?

send 0.1 btc i will delete my feedback

this is my address 1KZrMMAaW5iiSEzh8Tfxcv6oiTEH72bQmR


Not only did he try to scam you. Now he's trying to extort you. This guys a real piece of work.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 07:50:39 PM
So I just received a negative feedback from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=520476

"Beware scammer"

I guess this is his newly created account.



Edit:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey,

any idea why you gave me this feedback?

send 0.1 btc i will delete my feedback

this is my address 1KZrMMAaW5iiSEzh8Tfxcv6oiTEH72bQmR


Not only did he try to scam you. Now he's trying to extort you. This guys a real piece of work.

It seems Quickseller got negative feedback from the puppet as well, interested if he tried to extort him as well.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Quickseller on June 09, 2015, 07:55:52 PM
So I just received a negative feedback from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=520476

"Beware scammer"

I guess this is his newly created account.



Edit:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey,

any idea why you gave me this feedback?

send 0.1 btc i will delete my feedback

this is my address 1KZrMMAaW5iiSEzh8Tfxcv6oiTEH72bQmR


Not only did he try to scam you. Now he's trying to extort you. This guys a real piece of work.

It seems Quickseller got negative feedback from the puppet as well, interested if he tried to extort him as well.
I think I would be the worst person to try to extort with fake negative feedback, just look at how much untrusted negative feedback I have and this is after theymos removed a lot of spam negatives.

But no he has not tried to extort me yet.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Moebius327 on June 09, 2015, 08:11:59 PM
So I just received a negative feedback from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=520476

"Beware scammer"

I guess this is his newly created account.



Edit:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey,

any idea why you gave me this feedback?

send 0.1 btc i will delete my feedback

this is my address 1KZrMMAaW5iiSEzh8Tfxcv6oiTEH72bQmR


Not only did he try to scam you. Now he's trying to extort you. This guys a real piece of work.

It seems Quickseller got negative feedback from the puppet as well, interested if he tried to extort him as well.
I think I would be the worst person to try to extort with fake negative feedback, just look at how much untrusted negative feedback I have and this is after theymos removed a lot of spam negatives.

But no he has not tried to extort me yet.

Yes just noticed that  ;D


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: techgeek on June 09, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
Well theres no real threat here, since its not a trusted feedback.

But yeah, that person trying to scam is just asking for negativefeedbacks from all trusted people to ruin his account.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 10, 2015, 01:41:17 PM
Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 10, 2015, 01:57:42 PM
Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

That means clipman77 is alt of Dalyb aka fattyponzi aka nano-btc.

Quote
vafelcz email on his profile : jakubdalik@yahoo.com
fattyponzi used same email address, nano-btc and fattyponzi used same btc address. Dalyb and favelcz used same twitter address. All account connected to each other.

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186 (https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186)

1Ft9V8z6ELHTukPcFTs3eecfr5dqrQpTuu

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/548095548067446784

155Msr5mPUG1KnTei1uQjiniAexNwCBsmL

thank you

Hi there, i'm selling my own fully automated bitcoin ponzi script
Demo: https://www.fattyponzi.com
I can help you with any changes.
It is working like normal CryptoPonzi script.
You can change anything, from color to cryptocurrency.
Price is 0.21. If you want this script only for yourself price is 0.5, then i will delete it.
Script payout working in RawTX and use your main address for rest. Automatic fee collect. Major settings are stored in DB and can be update very simple.
This script is my and sou can't find it on internet!
You need PHP >= 5.4 | MySQL | Bitcoin daemon
http://satoshibox.com/54dcc28b4c347b0d63008450
For any help contact me here or on jakubdalik@yahoo.com

* Corrected a typo.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 10, 2015, 02:05:05 PM
Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

That means clipman77 is alt of Dalyb aka fattyponzi aka nano-btc.

Quote
favelcz email on his profile : jakubdalik@yahoo.com
fattyponzi used same email address, nano-btc and fattyponzi used same btc address. Dalyb and favelcz used same twitter address. All account connected to each other.

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186 (https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186)

1Ft9V8z6ELHTukPcFTs3eecfr5dqrQpTuu

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/548095548067446784

155Msr5mPUG1KnTei1uQjiniAexNwCBsmL

thank you

Hi there, i'm selling my own fully automated bitcoin ponzi script
Demo: https://www.fattyponzi.com
I can help you with any changes.
It is working like normal CryptoPonzi script.
You can change anything, from color to cryptocurrency.
Price is 0.21. If you want this script only for yourself price is 0.5, then i will delete it.
Script payout working in RawTX and use your main address for rest. Automatic fee collect. Major settings are stored in DB and can be update very simple.
This script is my and sou can't find it on internet!
You need PHP >= 5.4 | MySQL | Bitcoin daemon
http://satoshibox.com/54dcc28b4c347b0d63008450
For any help contact me here or on jakubdalik@yahoo.com

 He got me through is hibira1 alt. That's the one he used to try to extort Mobius327 with. He gave a neg to Möbius, QS, techgeek, me, and himself (clipman77). I guess he wants to disaccociate himself from his main account. Either that or he got carried away and gave himself neg rep. :)


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: clipman77 on June 10, 2015, 02:45:18 PM
You look fun, you direct all detectives  ;D


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 10, 2015, 02:55:20 PM
You look fun, you direct all detectives  ;D

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Don't you just hate Google translate? Some of the stuff that comes out makes no sense.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: nano-btc on June 10, 2015, 04:15:05 PM
WOW? Zakir, I hope your father died badly! You are abusing trust system SO MUCH! I don't even know WHO THE FUCK clipman77 is!
Do you have any evidence here, you little trust abuser? I'm probably going to start a thread about you, so everyone will know about your problems ( Your penis is probably so small that you have to compensate it here, but it's okay  :-* )

// And I can't see why should I scam Moebius327, because when I needed to get a small loan I got it from him really fast! And I repaid it, like yours Zakir, but he didn't give me negative feedback, and you did!


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Quickseller on June 10, 2015, 11:57:07 PM
Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

That means clipman77 is alt of Dalyb aka fattyponzi aka nano-btc.

Quote
favelcz email on his profile : jakubdalik@yahoo.com
fattyponzi used same email address, nano-btc and fattyponzi used same btc address. Dalyb and favelcz used same twitter address. All account connected to each other.

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186 (https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/550178785535197186)

1Ft9V8z6ELHTukPcFTs3eecfr5dqrQpTuu

https://twitter.com/mackonaut/status/548095548067446784

155Msr5mPUG1KnTei1uQjiniAexNwCBsmL

thank you

Hi there, i'm selling my own fully automated bitcoin ponzi script
Demo: https://www.fattyponzi.com
I can help you with any changes.
It is working like normal CryptoPonzi script.
You can change anything, from color to cryptocurrency.
Price is 0.21. If you want this script only for yourself price is 0.5, then i will delete it.
Script payout working in RawTX and use your main address for rest. Automatic fee collect. Major settings are stored in DB and can be update very simple.
This script is my and sou can't find it on internet!
You need PHP >= 5.4 | MySQL | Bitcoin daemon
http://satoshibox.com/54dcc28b4c347b0d63008450
For any help contact me here or on jakubdalik@yahoo.com
How do you make the connection between clipman77 and those other three accounts? I think I am missing the connection


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 11, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
WOW? Zakir, I hope your father died badly! You are abusing trust system SO MUCH! I don't even know WHO THE FUCK clipman77 is!
Do you have any evidence here, you little trust abuser? I'm probably going to start a thread about you, so everyone will know about your problems ( Your penis is probably so small that you have to compensate it here, but it's okay  :-* )

// And I can't see why should I scam Moebius327, because when I needed to get a small loan I got it from him really fast! And I repaid it, like yours Zakir, but he didn't give me negative feedback, and you did!

1. You said you weren't Dalyb first time and denied all of my claiming.
2. Do you call repaying after 4 months and 11 days after you lied my claims faster and honest?
3. The negative feedback is not only for late repayment.

How do you make the connection between clipman77 and those other three accounts? I think I am missing the connection

vafelcz left a negative feedback to sdmathis, me and a few others who left negative feedback to him. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085251.msg11582917#msg11582917 Apparently, it looks like he deleted all feedback except on mine. I couldn't archive it as trust feedbacks can't be viewed without logging in. If you don't trust me, you can ask theymos or BadBear. They maybe able to tell you.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Quickseller on June 11, 2015, 12:47:55 PM
Hibira1 had sent negative trust to everyone on the thread. I believe that Theymos previously has said that trust ratings/lists are not saved/backed up/tracked.

It looks like most of those accounts are scammers anyway so believing you is irrelevant.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: nano-btc on June 11, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
WOW? Zakir, I hope your father died badly! You are abusing trust system SO MUCH! I don't even know WHO THE FUCK clipman77 is!
Do you have any evidence here, you little trust abuser? I'm probably going to start a thread about you, so everyone will know about your problems ( Your penis is probably so small that you have to compensate it here, but it's okay  :-* )

// And I can't see why should I scam Moebius327, because when I needed to get a small loan I got it from him really fast! And I repaid it, like yours Zakir, but he didn't give me negative feedback, and you did!

1. You said you weren't Dalyb first time and denied all of my claiming.
2. Do you call repaying after 4 months and 11 days after you lied my claims faster and honest?
3. The negative feedback is not only for late repayment.

How do you make the connection between clipman77 and those other three accounts? I think I am missing the connection

vafelcz left a negative feedback to sdmathis, me and a few others who left negative feedback to him. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085251.msg11582917#msg11582917 Apparently, it looks like he deleted all feedback except on mine. I couldn't archive it as trust feedbacks can't be viewed without logging in. If you don't trust me, you can ask theymos or BadBear. They maybe able to tell you.
vafelcz is my account, yes, but clipman77 is not my! I didn't give negative feedback to anyone ( except you ) in this thread!
I'm not even posting from this account anymore, just claimed one giveaway! Please ask theymos or BadBear, because I really want you to know that I didn't delete any negative feedback!


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 11, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
sdmathis was talking about those feedback and sdmathis can confirm it. If I am wrong, I will remove negative feedback I left on nano-btc's account and his alts for sure.

Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

Hibira1 had sent negative trust to everyone on the thread. I believe that Theymos previously has said that trust ratings/lists are not saved/backed up/tracked.

It looks like most of those accounts are scammers anyway so believing you is irrelevant.

Your choice...

vafelcz is my account, yes, but clipman77 is not my! I didn't gave negative trust to anyone ( except you ) in this thread!
I'm not even posting from this account anymore, just claimed one giveaway! Please ask theymos or BadBear, because I really want you to know that I didn't delete any negative feedback!

You can't deny vafelcz is your alt as I have got proof but you can deny clipman77 as I don't have proof like the ones I have about your other accounts and fortunately, trust feedback are not saved.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: nano-btc on June 11, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
sdmathis was talking about those feedback and sdmathis can confirm it. If I am wrong, I will remove negative feedback I left on nano-btc's account and his alts for sure.

Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

Hibira1 had sent negative trust to everyone on the thread. I believe that Theymos previously has said that trust ratings/lists are not saved/backed up/tracked.

It looks like most of those accounts are scammers anyway so believing you is irrelevant.

Your choice...

vafelcz is my account, yes, but clipman77 is not my! I didn't gave negative trust to anyone ( except you ) in this thread!
I'm not even posting from this account anymore, just claimed one giveaway! Please ask theymos or BadBear, because I really want you to know that I didn't delete any negative feedback!

You can't deny vafelcz is your alt as I have got proof but you can deny clipman77 as I don't have proof like the ones I have about your other accounts and fortunately, trust feedback are not saved.
I'm not saying it's not my alt, I clearly said vafelcz is my! And you said that you can contact admins about feedbacks, so do it please..
I didn't even know who is clipman77 until I saw this thread..


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 11, 2015, 01:15:50 PM
sdmathis was talking about those feedback and sdmathis can confirm it. If I am wrong, I will remove negative feedback I left on nano-btc's account and his alts for sure.

Now he's giving everyone who commented in this thread negative feedback through his new alt.

Hibira1 had sent negative trust to everyone on the thread. I believe that Theymos previously has said that trust ratings/lists are not saved/backed up/tracked.

It looks like most of those accounts are scammers anyway so believing you is irrelevant.

Your choice...

vafelcz is my account, yes, but clipman77 is not my! I didn't gave negative trust to anyone ( except you ) in this thread!
I'm not even posting from this account anymore, just claimed one giveaway! Please ask theymos or BadBear, because I really want you to know that I didn't delete any negative feedback!

You can't deny vafelcz is your alt as I have got proof but you can deny clipman77 as I don't have proof like the ones I have about your other accounts and fortunately, trust feedback are not saved.

I'm sorry, but I may have confused things a bit. I meant that he left negative trust using his hibira1 alt. that's the one he used to extort Möbius with. I should have been more clear. I'm sorry that I confused things.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on June 11, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
I'm sorry, but I may have confused things a bit. I meant that he left negative trust using his hibira1 alt. that's the one he used to extort Möbius with. I should have been more clear. I'm sorry that I confused things.

Well, thanks for clearing that up! Though when I checked your profile, I saw feedback from vafelcz. Anyway, I will remove those negative feedback if you or anybody else haven't seen feedback from vafelcz.


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: nano-btc on June 11, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
I'm sorry, but I may have confused things a bit. I meant that he left negative trust using his hibira1 alt. that's the one he used to extort Möbius with. I should have been more clear. I'm sorry that I confused things.

Well, thanks for clearing that up! Though when I checked your profile, I saw feedback from vafelcz. Anyway, I will remove those negative feedback if you or anybody else haven't seen feedback from vafelcz.
Thank you..  ;)

( Sorry for the bad words I said, but I was really rude since it's not my account and I never saw him here! )


Title: Re: clipman77 tried to scam me out of 4 BTC
Post by: sdmathis on June 11, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
I'm sorry, but I may have confused things a bit. I meant that he left negative trust using his hibira1 alt. that's the one he used to extort Möbius with. I should have been more clear. I'm sorry that I confused things.

Well, thanks for clearing that up! Though when I checked your profile, I saw feedback from vafelcz. Anyway, I will remove those negative feedback if you or anybody else haven't seen feedback from vafelcz.

I didn't see the other feedback. I don't check very often and this was my first neg. it had me concerned for a while because it's my first neg. Actually, it's the only bit of trust anyone has left me because I don't do any trading.