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hi all...

i want to inform that bitcoincloudservices didn´t payout the last two days...
someone got informations about it ?

Same problem here... Have been looking for some kind of statement but there's radio silence... Scam???

yeah i got same problem too, but we need to wait before say it scam. is just 2 days they no update payout

u´r right... a few weeks ago there was a similar situation and after apr. 36 hours the payment was done...
i send a message to the support to get an info. automated mail arrived minutes later and there was written to give time to answer the next 24 hours...

lets see what happend...

:/

Their payout adress is empty:

https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1BTCPayb5AdF8fSsR7oews2PpuVpRtamk6

They are just gone, another scam....

found some informations ...

looks bad :(

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20702/exclusive-possible-500000-bitcoin-cloud-mining-ponzi-scheme-uncovered/ (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20702/exclusive-possible-500000-bitcoin-cloud-mining-ponzi-scheme-uncovered/)

Yes they wallet now no balance, that make me worry.


Very bad information, i hope that information hoax. But im not sure that news are hoax  :'(
I got scam again in cloud mining service

they turned into scam from past few days ..
i have sent them mail but no reply from their side..hope they ran away like earntomorrow.. 8)

i think the site will stay online to rip off some more people they don´t read this !!

i bought about 35 ths there 6 - 7 month ago so i got roi + apr. 50% plus but i run off at pbmining so ... :(((

i am pretty sure that you very well know the sucky ponzi coinsdouble.com which is 100% verified as ponzi...not only ponzi ..scam..
but it continue to be there on the site as sucking innocent people who dont know about it.

Hi All,

I just draw down my loan 12 bitcoin from BtcJam for mining at cloudservices, now I owe 14 BTC to investrors  :'( 

I think the site looks pretty legit im gona take the chance in case they are just having some technical difficulties like scrypt.cc

https://i.imgur.com/hKME0xs.png

What's plan B, as in repaying the loan just in case the unthinkable happens?

how can you guys fall for such obvious scam is beyond me, look at the damn photo, it is clear that is photoshopped like no other

has anyone at least verified that their office exist, they are providing the location on the map, so it should be easy

the office did really exists - until 4 weeks ... now its not on google maps anymore ...
try to reach the phone support right now ... will reply what happens !

basically Is bitcoincloudservices.com a scammer or not?

 I wana know cas I just placed a order, but I only invested half ( 6 bitcoins BTC) to be safe

uk number is available but only a voicemail is possible
us nummer seems to be a redirected line to uk number ...

if i was you i would NOT invest there anymore...
get your own hardware - so you stay clear to not being scammed !!!!

did you allready make the payment of 6 btc ???
f**k ....

how can I repay the BtcJam now because I only got 6 bitcoins and I borrowed 12 from the investors

thats too bad... i think u burned 6 btc and got to get them elsewere to repay :(
i´m sorry to say !!!

I think you're playing games here, Eddie, link to BtcJam please, or welcome to *ignore*

 ;)

And the same procedure as every cloudminingservice  ;D
I hit 85% ROI, so my lost is not too big  ::)

I searched a site online what i can do is invest the other 6 BTC I didnt sent to cloudservices to get my original 12 BTC back for BtcJam investors then I just owe 2 interest.


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i think there are 2 possibilities ...

you want to make an advice for a scam site here

or

you burn your other 6 btc when sending them ...

This?

i see...  ::)

guys what about scrypt.cc and cloudminr.io  are they a scammers too or legit?

dont know much about scrypt.cc neither cloudminr.io ...
but anyways ... buy your own miner and u are save that noone rips you off  ;)

Both scams and both will die soon.

DO NOT invest into anything which does not provide real photos or verifiable mining address.

You can always invest into PoS coins, like I do. DMD Diamond s my favorite. The price went up 100% in the last 2 months and you get 50% annual PoS interest. 

most likely a ponzi. use them like you would use a gamble site.

I should say that its more like of a throwing money into a trash can :)

You can read in here before invest
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0

99% cloudmining run ponxi scheme

me to my id herjahto8785@gmail.com

Hi everyone,
Same thing since the 7th there have been no payouts here after purchasing the 4th contract with Bitcoin Cloud Services. Just fired off a support ticket just for sh__ts and giggles. Hopefully this is just a glitch or hiccup and all will be well tomorrow. Do you agree that it sounded to good to be true ? And if nothing happens then well it is just an expensive lesson learned.

fool me once
shame on you
fool me twice
shame on me

Everything devotes to a grab and run, so the risk was high and everyone knew that. If these guys get caught in the future, i personally don't want to be in their skin that day  ;)
Maybe someone who lives nearby could visit them for a cup of tea and a nice chat  ::)

Who would even investigate the block-chain addresses to find the alleged perpetrator, I mean under what jurisdiction would even care if a bunch of dummies like me tosses some bitcoin to the wind although the R.O.I. was indeed very enticing. It seems that it would be a good business to truly invest in the miners and recoup by adding miners to a storage barn in a cool climate with solar or hydro electrical energy supplies. But hey I must be an idealist.   ;D

sorry to say - i got the same mind like you when the payout of pbmining fails... i thought there was hope, but ... nope !
on pbmining i loose apr. 10000 U$D
i think they are gone. maybe next week - if there is still no payout - i´ll make a trip to london if i find a adress or something like that... its not so far away from me (800 km), so a city trip ?! ;) lets see if i got time for that...

if someone gots more informations - whatever - pls msg me (privat ! - i dont want to break any laws / rules in here)

when i found nothing interesting i will go to local police station make it public.

enough is enough. those ba****ds s**ks

both are ponzis and will likely die soon; i hear nice things about bit-x though, might want to try that out, but I dont think you will get ROI fast enough to repay your loan.

well, from your own pocket its one idea ...

I have not received payments either.

Signed up with the 9 months ago so I already have ROI +150%

who has lost heaps of BTC here?

over and over you people fall for the same scams.  get over it.  cloud mining is the same as a ponzi.  you all know this so i dont feel bad for anyone who has lost their "gamble"

Sorry you feel that way, let me direct you to come visit us at GetHashing.com. Not all cloud mining is a Ponzi, ty :) ;D

Tell the people that lent you money that you learned that the only thing stupider than borrowing money to invest in a ponzi scheme is lending money to someone else so they can invest it in a ponzi scheme. Hopefully it wasn't an expensive lesson for them.

fuck you bcs very angree,,you not pay me i curse you you now the law of karma... :( :-\

some lost with new contract some win with Old contract (5year)
but average im still lost

you are lucky man can get ROI +150% but if you sell it with flat you can get lost too Price is very low than 9monts ago

Goodbye to your hard work and to your your precious money. Tsk tsk tsk.

What does the law of karma think about people who think they found a way to get free money?

Hi I was going to invest more in these guys yesterday but I read the posts.  Then I went to their offices in London - NOTHING, the girl said this is just a managed office for lots of firms.  A VIRTUAL OFFICE and never any computers or mining equipment there for sure.

What these guys have done is fraud, using documents, photos to defraud.  The best thing is to trace the bitcoin transactions, even if they mix them there is still a path to follow I am told.

Meantime I think cloudminr.io looks like a better bet, based in Norway

update:

noone answer phonecalls
no answer from support via mail ...

so i think thats the proof of scam !



btw... when you order now there is no payment with bitpay anymore ... you got to send by yourself - like pbmining in past times ...

Original message > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010670.40

Bitcoin Cloud Services is defiantly a ponzi scheme, they had a stable payout until the 7th of June.
After that they stopped payouts and are not responding to any tickets / emails.

A few days earlier (on the 4th of June) I had send a support ticket to the helpdesk and I noticed this strange subject ending to the automatic response "... - Delayed payout ", apparently they had already changed the settings on their email for when they would run off with all the BTC.

Those who follow the blockchain may have noticed the large volumes that stated moving yesterday. roughly 5000 BTC scattered into brand spanking new wallets and repeated scattering. (the tumbling proces might still be going but I stopt following transactions after a few hours).

Here are a few of those transactions:
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/15rq3QMt1XKpFKc9v8F3QbXgJAi7F91vaN
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1MT3x8UwEFKMpfM4fBJAWyBKvmaqmqUNav
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1DBx6zrDtdnaxKVpMfPq6JuZ8v4oQcd7Uv
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1EVe4JGf23r4R8fGrgfVzqVBzG6csetWTT
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1G6jpZ434An2CmXv14rjTNfHEYTPq1bfKt
https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1Q1BM3J97txmV8vbZpfGtVZUDKQzSbsH7S


Company background info:
The company is registered in London,
46-48 East Smithfield, Tower Bridge Business Centre Suite 313
London
E1W 1AW
Company No. 08935510
Date of Incorporation 12/03/2014
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Source: http://companieshouse.gov.uk/

The following people are involved in BCS

John Watt
- This is an alias name, though this person has the same writing style as Gabriel Kleiman.

Gabriel Kleiman
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gabriel-kleiman/a1/114/48b (removed his picture last night but i've save a screenshot)

http://

Born: somewhere in 1980
Director, Merchant
12 Mar 2014 — Unknown



Esteban Amador Soto Martinez
- Known scammer, involved in more bitcoin related scams.
- involved in bitcoincloudhashing.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414314.40
- In the earlier days of BCS when subscribing you would receive an email from Walter Strickland, but if you would reply to that email it got send to Esteban Amador Soto Marinez who forwarded the email to Walter Strickland who then responded.
Born: somewhere in 1980
Company Secretary
12 Mar 2014 — Unknown

Country: ENGLAND
Posttown: LONDON
Postcode: EC1V 4PW (150 John street)
Country of residence: MEXICO

Fernando Vazquez Doroteo
- Had a matching phone number mentioned on an other website called minerszone.com, this site turned out to be a scam.


Video interview with the CEO of BCS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAjzhILv_TU

If you know more about Bitcoin Cloud Services please share your info.

Links - anyone in the UK or globally can report the Bitcoincloudservices crime to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/btc-cloud-services

https://www.facebook.com/gabriel.kleiman

I just sent a mail to fraud@companieshouse.gov.uk (http://fraud@companieshouse.gov.uk)

https://i.imgur.com/pBN8baK.jpg

Hope they will respond

Cryptocoinnews has also reported about BCS scam, https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/scam-alert-bitcoin-cloud-services/ (https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/scam-alert-bitcoin-cloud-services/)

It was a ponzi scam and was listed as such in Cloudmining 101 thread..
The very thing that you pay for electricity upfront was looking very bad.. at least for me.. I mean legit services can hardly guarantee that..

"Gabriel Kleiman",
Your face is all over youtube, the block chain can be traced to you "sir" and you will get caught, then they will take away that monkey on your back who stole all of our bitcoins. Feel the sorrow and shame of your deeds your body only lives so long and then the reckoning will befall your spirit. Turn in your records and confess to get a plea bargain for yourself and your partners. "Gabriel" if that is your name or of whom you admire your only way out is to ask for help. For your eternal soul cries unto you to cleanse yourself and remove the evilness that has befallen you. Only you are shown as the representative of the ill gotten gains, your partners will be free unless they are implicated by you and of course spending from the diverse wallets passed down cannot be laundered as if it was cash you of all people should understand that the block chain has traces of everything you do!
 ???

I got some profit there. But i just invest more after i get my ROI. That´s a rule we should always respect.

Definitely a scam if you ask me

-All payouts have stopped.

-No response from support.

-"Miner" listed in the contract show no new mined coins obviously.

-They very recently have started advertising a new special rate if you buy more.  Most likely to rip off more people.

More interestingly, negative reviews are showing up on their site about not getting payouts and they are quickly being removed - this is probably why they have such a good rating because they are monitoring and removing bad ones.


EVERYONE who has ever dealt with this company should report them here:  http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

There is alot of information in this thread that you can use as reference, and also reference this article as well:  https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20702/exclusive-possible-500000-bitcoin-cloud-mining-ponzi-scheme-uncovered/

Good luck

i hate bitcoin cloud services his company judgement karma  i fuck you

I report them to British police on link above. I hope other victims of this robbery will report them too. I hope person behind this fraud will end up in jail.

That not mixer, i think he use Xapo to anonimity their transaction
because bitmixer or like that will be mix it in 24-48hours

Most importantly learn the lesson not to invest in any cloudmining that uses photoshopped images of their mining farm, do not require fee for maintenance and do not provide evidence for hashrate or have official confirmation by major asics manufacturer. Hashnest is all I need for now, no need to risk anywhere else. If you want to risk - choose hard and buy some altcoins in which you believe ;)

Well lesson learned on hard way.  I  wondered how they can make more btc per ghs then I can with my hardware, now I get an answer.It is shame I did not found this forum and threads about cloud mining before investing in this ponzi
scheme.

Web site bitcoincloudservices.com is down, domain is still active on name Gabriel Kleinman. Is he really Mark Anton Tur bitpay employee ?

Website is up und running  8)

Their site is down right now.... It definitely is a scam... BTCs gone, these guys are gone for good... they ran away with some 14,000 BTCs, some of them mine :( :)...!

It s not down but it does not make a difference for people who lost money on this one. The funny thing is that people who lost money on this one are generally also involved into cloudminr.io, which ll go down next. They say this is a risk differentiation, between Ponzi and Ponzi.

iam sad to your heart  :'(
but That very stupid, you borrow 12BTC to play ponzi ???
that like you sell your home to try gambling, Cloudmining have more potential scaming because he run ponzi and not have real hardware, are you search more information before invest?

That why price of bitcoin very hard to up, so many scamer get BTC from ponzi, This is like bitcoindouble in the last year,

Bitcoindouble, lol. That one did not even pretend to be legit. But I doubt that this is the reason for BTC price not going up.. I just think people who want BTC have enough already and unless there is a killer app or some major breakthroughs to trigger mass adoption nothing will change.. well maybe some minor changes after mining rewards halving but its already included in today price.., sort of..

I think soon they will launch a new site for the extraction of the coin, it can continue forever, people will always trusting.

trusting for they will run away again and take bitcoin who buy contract

people join cloudmining with small amount and than try use all he have,,, after that  they were late to realize it

"Gabriel Kleiman",
Your face is all over youtube, the block chain can be traced to you "sir" monkey ceo in jail forever your life + gain karma ,,,,,,,,,momkey pig ceo

hi everyone please report report report bcs on:
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud-including-online-crime
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/
any info that you need:
https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/btc-cloud-services
http://www.endole.co.uk/company/08935510/btc-cloud-services-ltd

coin digital is good prospek ibm make new coin digital ,,idon"t bcs have money make new coin digital ,,,,,,,scam alert by me ,hate ceo vodoo+black magic ceo you don"t sleep every day until died,,you no karma

bcs fucks you

are you forget with this article ?

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-operator-pleads-not-guilty-to-fraud/
Published on March 24, 2015 at 20:15 BST

and what do you think about bitcoin price in that moment ?

At that time BTC price was inflated by illegal market manipulations by a bot at MtGox, this is why the price well like a rock, not because there were some big scams. Today there are more scams than ever. Maybe 50-80% of btc projects are a scam (well depends what you consider enough developed to be a project of course) but there were no price movement even after major scams commenced like gaw, amhash etc..

coin digital bitcoin no safety company mining,bitcoin and many coin digital no safety 80% no safety 80% investasi true money

You should use English in non Local threads man :P
I understand that you are very pissed off that bitcoincloudservices scammed you of your hard earned money, but your rage distorts your thoughts and it's hard to understand the ideas you are trying to convey :D
Sort of...  ;D ;D ;D

Looks like yet another cloud mining ponzi scam. I was always wary of these guys from the start, and I seem to remember seeing some posts warning about them a while back.

I think i understand the point of what Hermanto said...he may said the bitcoin and the bitcoin mining company is not safety / scam or untrusted and many other altcoin is not safety / scam

and he said it is better to invest in true money ( fiat money )

I don't think there is any MR ESTEBAN AMADOR SOTO MARTINEZ or MR GABRIEL KLEIMAN.

Further to some research of Companies House records, I found out the following.

20/04/04

Change of Particulars for Director and Secretary

FROM : Mr Esteban Amador Soto Martinez

TO: Mr David James Smith - D.O.B 11/11/1980

09/06/2014

Change of Particulars for Secretary

FROM : Mr Esteban Amador Soto Martinez

TO: Mr Gabriel Kleiman

16/05/2014

Change of Particular for Director

FROM: Mr David James Smith

TO: Mr Esteban Amador Martinez

---

From here we have a new name of Mr David James Smith and a DOB. Though this information may have been falsely submitted to Companies House.

.....and? What do you plan to do with this?

SUE THAT BASTARD!

or get him locked up in jail at least

jail forever.....ceo bcs = transgender= working women sex/lonte ...but is man normal life ?????????????????