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Title: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: Chef Ramsay on June 11, 2015, 05:48:20 AM
The families of an anti-Al-Qaeda cleric and a police officer killed in a US drone strike in Yemen in 2012, have filed a lawsuit in Washington, DC, seeking an official apology and acknowledgement that innocent civilians were mistakenly killed.

Faisal Ali Jaber, an engineer, who lost a brother-in-law Salem and his nephew Waleed in a drone strike, has filed the lawsuit. He is asking the District Court to declare the attack by the unmanned aircraft unlawful. The international human rights group Reprieve is giving Ali Jaber assistance.

The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

“Since the awful day when I lost two of my loved ones, my family and I have been asking the US government to admit their error and say sorry. Our pleas has been ignored. No one will publicly admit that an American drone killed Salem and Waleed, even though we all know it. This is unjust,” said Ali Jaber.

Faisal’s brother-in-law Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber, was a cleric who had delivered an anti-Al-Qaeda speech just days before the strike. Three young men had driven to the village with the intention of trying to find Salem and asked to speak to him several times. Salem finally agreed to meet with them with Waleed as protection. As the five men talked, four Hellfire missiles killed them, as villagers watched on August 29, 2012 in eastern Yemen.

“The bodies of all five men were blown apart,” according to the complaint. “Salem and Waleed could be identified only be people who knew them well and could recognize body parts – such as distinctive hair on portions of the heads of Salem and Waleed found in the blast area.”

Salem is survived by a widow and seven children and Waleed, 26, had a wife and child.

More...http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/ (http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/)


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2015, 09:03:49 AM
The Americans never got punished for killing thousands of innocent children during their bombing campaign of Serbia in 1999. The NATO jets selectively bombed kindergartens and hospitals in Serbia, to force Milosevic to withdraw from Kosovo. The families of those dead children so far has got no compensation. And now these families of some dead Al Qaeda nutjobs expect that they'll get the compensation from the Americans. Funny.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: gentlemand on June 11, 2015, 10:51:07 AM
It's a mind boggling demonstration of one rule for us and one rule for everyone else. I was watching a documentary where they appear to have a type of drone forecast on Pakistani TV to let people know whether they're likely to be wiped out that day.

I can't imagine mom and pop in Iowa would be too happy if they had to wait for a cloudy day for their barbecue to avoid a Hellfire up their arses.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: spazzdla on June 11, 2015, 07:07:50 PM
The Americans never got punished for killing thousands of innocent children during their bombing campaign of Serbia in 1999. The NATO jets selectively bombed kindergartens and hospitals in Serbia, to force Milosevic to withdraw from Kosovo. The families of those dead children so far has got no compensation. And now these families of some dead Al Qaeda nutjobs expect that they'll get the compensation from the Americans. Funny.

The "merciful angel"...

When the recoking comes I hope it's the politicians and leaders of MERICA that get what they deserve not the public.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 11, 2015, 07:17:54 PM
The families of an anti-Al-Qaeda cleric and a police officer killed in a US drone strike in Yemen in 2012, have filed a lawsuit in Washington, DC, seeking an official apology and acknowledgement that innocent civilians were mistakenly killed.

Faisal Ali Jaber, an engineer, who lost a brother-in-law Salem and his nephew Waleed in a drone strike, has filed the lawsuit. He is asking the District Court to declare the attack by the unmanned aircraft unlawful. The international human rights group Reprieve is giving Ali Jaber assistance.

The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

“Since the awful day when I lost two of my loved ones, my family and I have been asking the US government to admit their error and say sorry. Our pleas has been ignored. No one will publicly admit that an American drone killed Salem and Waleed, even though we all know it. This is unjust,” said Ali Jaber.

Faisal’s brother-in-law Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber, was a cleric who had delivered an anti-Al-Qaeda speech just days before the strike. Three young men had driven to the village with the intention of trying to find Salem and asked to speak to him several times. Salem finally agreed to meet with them with Waleed as protection. As the five men talked, four Hellfire missiles killed them, as villagers watched on August 29, 2012 in eastern Yemen.

“The bodies of all five men were blown apart,” according to the complaint. “Salem and Waleed could be identified only be people who knew them well and could recognize body parts – such as distinctive hair on portions of the heads of Salem and Waleed found in the blast area.”

Salem is survived by a widow and seven children and Waleed, 26, had a wife and child.

More...http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/ (http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/)

Anti-alqueda...LOL sure

Muslim lies are plain for all to see. These 'families' should watch themselves from now on - they have been marked now.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: cryptocoiner on June 11, 2015, 07:50:53 PM
Oh, yeah. C'mon, sue them for millions of innocent victims. And where is the court placed? America itself? LOL


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: pureelite on June 16, 2015, 01:48:03 PM
The families of an anti-Al-Qaeda cleric and a police officer killed in a US drone strike in Yemen in 2012, have filed a lawsuit in Washington, DC, seeking an official apology and acknowledgement that innocent civilians were mistakenly killed.

Faisal Ali Jaber, an engineer, who lost a brother-in-law Salem and his nephew Waleed in a drone strike, has filed the lawsuit. He is asking the District Court to declare the attack by the unmanned aircraft unlawful. The international human rights group Reprieve is giving Ali Jaber assistance.

The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

“Since the awful day when I lost two of my loved ones, my family and I have been asking the US government to admit their error and say sorry. Our pleas has been ignored. No one will publicly admit that an American drone killed Salem and Waleed, even though we all know it. This is unjust,” said Ali Jaber.

Faisal’s brother-in-law Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber, was a cleric who had delivered an anti-Al-Qaeda speech just days before the strike. Three young men had driven to the village with the intention of trying to find Salem and asked to speak to him several times. Salem finally agreed to meet with them with Waleed as protection. As the five men talked, four Hellfire missiles killed them, as villagers watched on August 29, 2012 in eastern Yemen.

“The bodies of all five men were blown apart,” according to the complaint. “Salem and Waleed could be identified only be people who knew them well and could recognize body parts – such as distinctive hair on portions of the heads of Salem and Waleed found in the blast area.”

Salem is survived by a widow and seven children and Waleed, 26, had a wife and child.

More...http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/ (http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/)

If there were any justice, the ''global policemen'' would pay for what they have done in the world. Serbia!!!, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Egypt... Innocent civilians have died because of their interests, and that's why I'm supporting these law suits!


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 16, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
Oh, yeah. C'mon, sue them for millions of innocent victims. And where is the court placed? America itself? LOL

A small correction. The court is located in one of the American vassal states, and not in the United States itself (in the city of Hague, Netherlands to be precise). That said, the United States was one of the 7 countries that voted against the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (the others were (China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, and Yemen).


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: mikaljan on June 16, 2015, 03:43:48 PM
The families of an anti-Al-Qaeda cleric and a police officer killed in a US drone strike in Yemen in 2012, have filed a lawsuit in Washington, DC, seeking an official apology and acknowledgement that innocent civilians were mistakenly killed.

Faisal Ali Jaber, an engineer, who lost a brother-in-law Salem and his nephew Waleed in a drone strike, has filed the lawsuit. He is asking the District Court to declare the attack by the unmanned aircraft unlawful. The international human rights group Reprieve is giving Ali Jaber assistance.

The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

“Since the awful day when I lost two of my loved ones, my family and I have been asking the US government to admit their error and say sorry. Our pleas has been ignored. No one will publicly admit that an American drone killed Salem and Waleed, even though we all know it. This is unjust,” said Ali Jaber.

Faisal’s brother-in-law Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber, was a cleric who had delivered an anti-Al-Qaeda speech just days before the strike. Three young men had driven to the village with the intention of trying to find Salem and asked to speak to him several times. Salem finally agreed to meet with them with Waleed as protection. As the five men talked, four Hellfire missiles killed them, as villagers watched on August 29, 2012 in eastern Yemen.

“The bodies of all five men were blown apart,” according to the complaint. “Salem and Waleed could be identified only be people who knew them well and could recognize body parts – such as distinctive hair on portions of the heads of Salem and Waleed found in the blast area.”

Salem is survived by a widow and seven children and Waleed, 26, had a wife and child.

More...http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/ (http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/)

Land of the free-mason ... home of the drone pilot.

Was it Newton who said "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction", whoever said it, much as I'd like to witness the final opposite reaction to the never-ending USA Action, I get the feeling it would be so large you'd have to watch it from space.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: maku on June 17, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
Oh, yeah. C'mon, sue them for millions of innocent victims. And where is the court placed? America itself? LOL

A small correction. The court is located in one of the American vassal states, and not in the United States itself (in the city of Hague, Netherlands to be precise). That said, the United States was one of the 7 countries that voted against the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (the others were (China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, and Yemen).

Could You please stop writing that every country that thinks differently then You is a USA vassal state? The world is full political and social ideas on how to live and if some countries think alike they tend to work together, but that doesn't mean that they are someone's vassal.


As for the topic itself, some of those claims are true and some of them are not. Remember that many terrorists uses civilians for their ideas (and sometimes civilians are actually supporting terrorist of their own will).


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2015, 01:48:49 PM
Could You please stop writing that every country that thinks differently then You is a USA vassal state? The world is full political and social ideas on how to live and if some countries think alike they tend to work together, but that doesn't mean that they are someone's vassal.

I refer countries such as Germany and the United Kingdom as vassal states of the United States, because they are not fully sovereign nations. For example, there are American soldiers stationed all over Germany, and the German gold reserves are currently being held by the US. And without the American permission, Germany can't enhance its armed forces, or take important foreign policy decisions.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: Daniel91 on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
I'm really sorry for their lost.
US govt. with this drone attacks, killed much more innocent, civil people than terrorists, and didn't accomplish much.
But, I really doubt they will ever receive official apology or compensation from uS govt.
They never do this and always believes that the ultimate goal justifies the occasional mistakes and the death of innocent people.



Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2015, 01:59:14 PM
But, I really doubt they will ever receive official apology or compensation from uS govt.
They never do this and always believes that the ultimate goal justifies the occasional mistakes and the death of innocent people.

Hmm... Let me ask one question. The United States has given asylum status to thousands of Chechen "refugees" from Russia, many of whom were involved in crimes against the civilians and security forces there. Imagine a scenario in which a Russian drone attacks one of these Chechens, and results in the deaths of some innocent bystanders. Will the Americans accept it, since the ultimate goal justifies the occasional mistakes and the death of innocent people?


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: brendanjhwu on June 18, 2015, 03:12:33 AM
This is sad, I feel terrible for him, and I hope the U.S compensates him. Nothing will probably fill the gaps though. Murica' might just cover it all up and kick some dirt on it over the next few years, before it totally fades away.

I don't think they will compensate him, because It will be like paying someone just to be shunned yourself. This will look terrible on the news. Dunno if it already is.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 18, 2015, 06:37:21 AM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

Gotta laugh my voice hoarse seeing all these muslim btches wailing and moaning about 'atrocities'. Just another reminder to the world why muslims must be exterminated down to the last seed.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 18, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: needFREElunch on June 18, 2015, 01:09:53 PM
I'm really sorry for their lost.
US govt. with this drone attacks, killed much more innocent, civil people than terrorists, and didn't accomplish much.
But, I really doubt they will ever receive official apology or compensation from uS govt.
They never do this and always believes that the ultimate goal justifies the occasional mistakes and the death of innocent people.



I agree. The nation is not one of those which admits mistake, they probably have clean up teams and think tanks which help them to escape such 'situations'.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 18, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?

LOL :)

95% of the so called native americans were killed by disease way before their contact with europeans became significant. I bet you are stupid enough to believe in the pathetically selective 'blanket theory' too.

Natives did much to exterminate themselves as much as any 'christian' did to them - and from what I recall there's nothing stopping them today from having more children or gaining rights the same as any other man in US - even more advantageous than a recent immigrant like myself certainly. They are certainly not required to pay special taxes or are forced to live somewhere. Your assertion that christian missionaries played an important role is like saying potato peel is at fault for being cut by a knife - no one was running away or afraid of missionaries, certainly not 'natives'. If the so called natives paid for their ignorance, bigotry, and racial attitude against others with their lives, isn't that justice? Or does your standard only apply on the EVIL white/west? ;D

Why not find blame with how the japs wiped out the native population before their mainstream ethnic group made japan? Why not china, india, russia? There isn't a single decent sized country on earth that didn't rise out of some conflict or another that resulted in a dominant faction taking over.

The key difference is that there hasn't been a single significant movement or will for muslims to rectify their ways, as opposed to other peoples, and not only endorses the practice of racial and cultural warfare, but fully supports it with both silent consent and active reinforcement.

When the hell was the last time a significantly christian country rose up to declare a crusade?

Your pathetic attempt at trying to equivocate the supposed western 'sins' with that of an active rapist and murders speaks volumes about your ulterior motive and lack of independent thought :D


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: criptix on June 18, 2015, 08:36:41 PM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?

LOL :)

95% of the so called native americans were killed by disease way before their contact with europeans became significant. I bet you are stupid enough to believe in the pathetically selective 'blanket theory' too.

Natives did much to exterminate themselves as much as any 'christian' did to them - and from what I recall there's nothing stopping them today from having more children or gaining rights the same as any other man in US - even more advantageous than a recent immigrant like myself certainly. They are certainly not required to pay special taxes or are forced to live somewhere. Your assertion that christian missionaries played an important role is like saying potato peel is at fault for being cut by a knife - no one was running away or afraid of missionaries, certainly not 'natives'. If the so called natives paid for their ignorance, bigotry, and racial attitude against others with their lives, isn't that justice? Or does your standard only apply on the EVIL white/west? ;D

Why not find blame with how the japs wiped out the native population before their mainstream ethnic group made japan? Why not china, india, russia? There isn't a single decent sized country on earth that didn't rise out of some conflict or another that resulted in a dominant faction taking over.

The key difference is that there hasn't been a single significant movement or will for muslims to rectify their ways, as opposed to other peoples, and not only endorses the practice of racial and cultural warfare, but fully supports it with both silent consent and active reinforcement.

When the hell was the last time a significantly christian country rose up to declare a crusade?

Your pathetic attempt at trying to equivocate the supposed western 'sins' with that of an active rapist and murders speaks volumes about your ulterior motive and lack of independent thought :D

much bullshit, many idiocy. it's not even worth a reply.

btw. it is just 75 years ago since the catholic church supported hitler and nazi germany  ;)


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: blablahblah on June 18, 2015, 09:26:02 PM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?

The only way in which that piece of trivia is relevant is that it shows how extremist/delusional your overall mentality is. Most (if not all) of the people responsible for killing the (real) Americans are long since dead, and modern US people don't carry responsibility for the crimes of their ancestors. If you disagree, then that would mean that you also carry responsibility for the crimes of your ancestors, even if they hid behind the "USSR" mask.

In some countries, people with a criminal history can have their criminal record erased after a certain period of time so they can re-start their life without ongoing discrimination by vigilantes. The same should apply here and this thread is ONLY about getting justice for a crime that's new and relevant.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 18, 2015, 09:28:34 PM
If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?

LOL :)

95% of the so called native americans were killed by disease way before their contact with europeans became significant. I bet you are stupid enough to believe in the pathetically selective 'blanket theory' too.

Natives did much to exterminate themselves as much as any 'christian' did to them - and from what I recall there's nothing stopping them today from having more children or gaining rights the same as any other man in US - even more advantageous than a recent immigrant like myself certainly. They are certainly not required to pay special taxes or are forced to live somewhere. Your assertion that christian missionaries played an important role is like saying potato peel is at fault for being cut by a knife - no one was running away or afraid of missionaries, certainly not 'natives'. If the so called natives paid for their ignorance, bigotry, and racial attitude against others with their lives, isn't that justice? Or does your standard only apply on the EVIL white/west? ;D

Why not find blame with how the japs wiped out the native population before their mainstream ethnic group made japan? Why not china, india, russia? There isn't a single decent sized country on earth that didn't rise out of some conflict or another that resulted in a dominant faction taking over.

The key difference is that there hasn't been a single significant movement or will for muslims to rectify their ways, as opposed to other peoples, and not only endorses the practice of racial and cultural warfare, but fully supports it with both silent consent and active reinforcement.

When the hell was the last time a significantly christian country rose up to declare a crusade?

Your pathetic attempt at trying to equivocate the supposed western 'sins' with that of an active rapist and murders speaks volumes about your ulterior motive and lack of independent thought :D

much bullshit, many idiocy. it's not even worth a reply.

btw. it is just 75 years ago since the catholic church supported hitler and nazi germany  ;)

LOL I bet this btch doesn't even know muslims were actively supporting Nazis, unlike some sniveling conspiracy theory about catholic church 'supporting' the nazis (most likely meek ignorance, very slim splinter faction playing  politics).

Just tryin to find an excuse to btch and moan :)


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2015, 02:46:43 AM
95% of the so called native americans were killed by disease way before their contact with europeans became significant. I bet you are stupid enough to believe in the pathetically selective 'blanket theory' too. Natives did much to exterminate themselves as much as any 'christian' did to them

OK. So you are saying that the Native Americans committed mass suicides, so that the Europeans could colonize the Americas. Great. I admire you for your colorful imagination. Then perhaps we should forget about the Roman Catholic extermination camps, which were set up for the natives, such as Mission San Gabriel Arcángel, where millions of them were tortured to death.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 19, 2015, 03:00:57 AM
95% of the so called native americans were killed by disease way before their contact with europeans became significant. I bet you are stupid enough to believe in the pathetically selective 'blanket theory' too. Natives did much to exterminate themselves as much as any 'christian' did to them

OK. So you are saying that the Native Americans committed mass suicides, so that the Europeans could colonize the Americas. Great. I admire you for your colorful imagination. Then perhaps we should forget about the Roman Catholic extermination camps, which were set up for the natives, such as Mission San Gabriel Arcángel, where millions of them were tortured to death.

Millions? LOL

You fools trying to hope that some fcking excuse to btch can come up if you talk large enough. I know what genocide is. I also know what war camps look like. This is nothing like that.

The entire study regarding that could easily be turned around against the so called natives. Ever heard of Iroquois Huron war?

'Millions tortured to death' - by same logic I can easily argue that every single mexicans, blacks, non-whites in US bear collective blame for daily crime activities that has killed more people than any period of 'colonialism', never mind how they exterminated, raped, kidnapped, and committed war crimes as per natural order of things according to their customs

In fact, colonialism is a selective morality at its best that is a sad attempt at trying to villainize the west, while same thing is either ignored or selectively moralized by stupid fcks like you in non-western nations.

The contact with the old world inhabitants caused a great epidemic among siberian-migrant populations such as aztecs and north american tribes. Get the picture?

Now if you want to blame spread of germs on europeans, than I wonder how many chinese and slanty eyed people we have to kill for all the plagues that rose from the east asian region and spread across the world (black plague, avian flu, sars, list is endless - china for one is a fckin cesspool of disease origins)? In fact, mongols knowingly used biological warfare tactics on caffa, a genoses city in crimea that mongols KNEW to be a trading post with connections to lands beyond. They flung over plague ridden corpses while being fully aware that it would certainly spread beyond the city walls.

Your complete lack of objectivity and flailing attempts at btching at others with imaginary self-righteous indignation is pretty damn cute for a 1st worlder :)


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2015, 03:18:24 AM
Millions? LOL

You fools trying to hope that some fcking excuse to btch can come up if you talk large enough. I know what genocide is. I also know what war camps look like. This is nothing like that.

Blah blah blah... you know this and you know that. So everyone should believe you.

Not as simple as that. Take California for example. In the 1770s, when the Roman Catholic missionaries first started rounding up the natives to the war camps, there were some 325,000 of them. The population declined by 90% in just 100 years, as the missionaries engaged in torture, rape and murder. This is what I call genocide.

Now coming back to the topic, give me an example of similar genocide conducted by the Muslims, or any other religions.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 19, 2015, 03:21:43 AM
Millions? LOL

You fools trying to hope that some fcking excuse to btch can come up if you talk large enough. I know what genocide is. I also know what war camps look like. This is nothing like that.

Blah blah blah... you know this and you know that. So everyone should believe you.

Not as simple as that. Take California for example. In the 1770s, when the Roman Catholic missionaries first started rounding up the natives to the war camps, there were some 325,000 of them. The population declined by 90% in just 100 years, as the missionaries engaged in torture, rape and murder. This is what I call genocide.

Now coming back to the topic, give me an example of similar genocide conducted by the Muslims, or any other religions.

LOLOL this btch

it doesn't even register on the scale of things - 325000 in 100 years? Try 3 million in 5 years - jewish pogrom and diaspora from arab nations? Arab muslims campaign of slavery against africans? Indians? Genocide of local population by mongols so much that genetic material of middle east was changed irreversably?

Yea you hate christians, but you haven't got the balls to btch at real slavers or genocidal criminals because you are easily swindled.

1st world btch material right here.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2015, 03:31:18 AM
it doesn't even register on the scale of things - 325000 in 100 years? Try 3 million in 5 years - jewish pogrom and diaspora from arab nations? Arab muslims campaign of slavery against africans? Indians? Genocide of local population by mongols so much that genetic material of middle east was changed irreversably?

Exterminating 90% of the population is not genocide for you? And regarding the other facts pointed out by you:

1. Jewish pogrom and diaspora from Arab nations: True. But pales in comparison to the Holocaust.
2. Arab Muslims campaign of slavery against Africans & Indians: I think that most of the slave traders were European. But a sizable number was from Oman, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
3. Genocide of local population by Mongols: Yes. This one was also a genocide.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 19, 2015, 03:38:34 AM
it doesn't even register on the scale of things - 325000 in 100 years? Try 3 million in 5 years - jewish pogrom and diaspora from arab nations? Arab muslims campaign of slavery against africans? Indians? Genocide of local population by mongols so much that genetic material of middle east was changed irreversably?

Exterminating 90% of the population is not genocide for you? And regarding the other facts pointed out by you:

1. Jewish pogrom and diaspora from Arab nations: True. But pales in comparison to the Holocaust.
2. Arab Muslims campaign of slavery against Africans & Indians: I think that most of the slave traders were European. But a sizable number was from Oman, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
3. Genocide of local population by Mongols: Yes. This one was also a genocide.

This brain dead 1st world fool...

Arabs and muslims were the first slavers of black africans from ancient times, with arab slavers being the first 'white' slave masters across the african continent. Zanji rebellion - 'Black Rebellion' first occured in modern day iraq around 10th century specifically against arabs by blacks. Europe never got into african slavery seriously until 16th century, where as arabs were conducting slave raids from beginning of time, and even than the undocumented and even documented numbers of african slaves taken pale in comparison to arab and muslim slave trades during the same time frame.

You foolishly embellish and exaggerate small supposed abuses with your primary motive being to villainize another, while real atrocities are made excuses for or even somehow you delude yourself into deflecting them by using HOLOCAUST?

Maybe west should rightfully tell the world to fck off with their btching because china doesn't even acknowledge 5000 years of naked sinocentric han ethnic imperialism, indo racism that persists today, muslim and arab crimes against humanity that are never addressed, japanese extermination of ainu peoples, etc etc etc

You are welcome to leave the west and fck off to whatever righteous country and culture you think is better at lying about being clean and blameless. The only real fault I find with the west is that they are too willing to allow their flaws to be exaggerated compared to others who are bent on harming the west on racial and cultural grounds, and giving fckin fools like you an idea that you can btch freely without consequence.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2015, 03:45:15 AM
This brain dead 1st world fool...

Learn some manners first. I had enough of your BS. Added to the ignore list.

Now back to the topic. The CIA has decided to increase the frequency of drone strikes in Yemen. Recently, a top Al Qaeda militant, Nasser al-Wuhayshi was killed in the US drone strikes. He was the head of the Al-Qaeda in the Arabia Peninsula (Aqap), which is active in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Eastern Yemen.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: AJMax on June 19, 2015, 04:23:06 AM
This brain dead 1st world fool...

Learn some manners first. I had enough of your BS. Added to the ignore list.

Now back to the topic. The CIA has decided to increase the frequency of drone strikes in Yemen. Recently, a top Al Qaeda militant, Nasser al-Wuhayshi was killed in the US drone strikes. He was the head of the Al-Qaeda in the Arabia Peninsula (Aqap), which is active in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Eastern Yemen.

Better learn to watch that mouth of yours if you want decency from people. Respect is a two way street, something you disregard every time you open your hole :)

The level of ignorant bigotry acting the moral pillars LOL

Pssy out and hit that ignore button ;D


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: blablahblah on June 19, 2015, 08:39:07 AM
Repeating my earlier post because the Rusky troll obviously missed it the first time...

If muslims were forced to compensate for every killing they have done for the last 1400 years, there won't be a single muslim left on earth. Every strand of hair, every teeth and blood will be used to repay the world for their ignorance, bigotry, racism, slavery, and genocide.

The United States of America was created after exterminating the native American Indians who lived there for many thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. Christian missionaries played a large role in the extermination, and people such as the "blessed" Junípero Serra single handedly wiped out entire ethnic groups (such as the Tongva). Does that mean that some one should kill all the Christians using whatever means available?

The only way in which that piece of trivia is relevant is that it shows how extremist/delusional your overall mentality is. Most (if not all) of the people responsible for killing the (real) Americans are long since dead, and modern US people don't carry responsibility for the crimes of their ancestors. If you disagree, then that would mean that you also carry responsibility for the crimes of your ancestors, even if they hid behind the "USSR" mask.

In some countries, people with a criminal history can have their criminal record erased after a certain period of time so they can re-start their life without ongoing discrimination by vigilantes. The same should apply here and this thread is ONLY about getting justice for a crime that's new and relevant.


Title: Re: Families sue US govt, seek official apology over drone killings in Yemen
Post by: criptix on June 19, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
@AJMaxDaMan

yo motherfucker bitch bro, did you learn all that stuff in the book you found under the bridge you live?

what i told you is common knowledge which kids learn in german history classes when they are 12 years old :-\