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well we advanced soo fast on the last years ,we need really to slow down otherwise the future will be compromised already feeling  year by year the sun gets more hot and the cold getting more cold.... soo enviroment will affect economy global if people just dont stop think on money.... the bills of abuse EARTH will come slow but we cant recover anymore after taking the first step.


Several countries started to face problems about green moviments that should be respected over the world...

Why does the speed of recent technology innovation impact climate change? If anything, wouldn't it limit climate change as better technology becomes impactful on the use of oil and gasoline?

we are already doing something, in the way of beginning to attempt at colonizing other planet like mars, check mars one it's an awesome attempt to send 100(50 men and 50 women) to build there a new facility and start a new human era

we could restart the whole green factor(forest, jungle and everything with it) on mars inside special buildings that will work as greenhouses

it's also obvious that precious metal or resoucers on earth can't last forever, and the only solution is to conquer other planet

Economy up and Earth invisible. That too, the richest surviving, the poor gone. Trend these days seems to be going that direction only. Everyone wants to build sky-scrapers, big industries, modern houses, latest cars. Nobody focussing on reversing these things.  >:(

The last two winters have been quite mild in comparison to previous years where i am. I fail to see the problem and if indeed there is a problem i dont understand it in order to fix it. So i will take the easy option and ration my energy use.

There's an article claiming that the project was a big scam and will never happen.

Anyway, the future have its pros and cons.

Pros:
New inventions to make human's lives easier.

Cons:
The nature will be at rage. Soon the trees will be rare.

"Global Warming Petition

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists."

http://oism.org/pproject/

Define scientist.  I am a scientist, but an immunologist, not a climate scientist.  If I sign the petition (I wouldn't) then would I count on your list?  My opinion on climate science is no more valid than anyone elses who has not studied the subject...

Even if you aren't sure that CO2 is a bad thing, or that humans are causing the rise in CO2, the safer bet would be not to continue using fossil fuels, in case the consequences are actually what the majority of climate scientists think they will be. 

An example I use is: I have never been in a car that has run out of petrol/gas.  Therefore I think that cars do not actually need petrol/gas to run.  Lots of people tell me that they do, but that is not the case in my experience.  Should I fill up my car with petrol before driving across death valley?  If I am right, then all good.  If I am wrong and don't fill up, I die.  If I fill up my car as the majority say I should, it doesn't matter who is right, I will be fine.  I would fill up my car, better safe than sorry.

Al Gore Sued By 30,000 Scientists For Global Warming Fraud

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/tidbits/45-tidbits/249-al-gore-sued-by-30000-scientists-for-global-warming-fraud.html

well the enviroment is changing year by year i can fell the changes on the body,more cold more hot.the things is happening too fast,the mars project will cost a fortune and some people will die on earth since to make the trip to mars need money.. soo we human first use,then abuse then destroy and move into other planet?we are smarter then that.... we should stop ,but no one wanna know about world the thing NOWADAYS IS JUST MONEY,WORK AND MONEY TO CHILL OUT ,and well glaciars are going.... storms getting stronger... tsunami and others... at brazil people just made a such invasion that you can see from the last 10 years the change several trees gone ... the glaciar are disappearing.......how can countrys just think on money...they offer such plans to face economy problems but no one think on EARTH... brazil has sun almost all the year ,ask me if there is solar energy here?companies just dont let that happen,solar panels are costing like 10 or 20 years bill of energy... and no companies investing on it.... at portugal new buildings has solar energy,and some olds is getting them the cost , the bill they would pay on 5 years i dont get why people  buy a car instead invest in energy ?

If we exchange environment with economy, we are happy to see the prosperity and economic success. Although we get richer and live better, but the air and water quality becomes worse! We don't have clean air to breathe and clean water to drink! Even we got plenty of money and we still cannot recover the damaged environment!

From my point of view,advancing in technology is good for our planet as more and more people buy electronic cars and the oil consumption and that means less pollution. Also more and more people and companies use green energy(solar,wind,etc.). Of course that this proccess should be faster as we are destroying the earth`s environment and by the time we realise what bad we have done it will be too late...
I highly encourage the "green" organizations who are trying to help to make a better world but not the ones who are just looking for money.

Green movements will die so as the earth. I do not think that most of the countries will last for more than 40-50 years. Either most of those will get abandoned by the people themselves, or those places will not remain healthy enough for a human being to survive.

Elon musk has plans to colonise mars and other planets and has already started extensive work which seems really promising.

Conquering another planet is rational as resources another earth won't last forever.

the point is we maybe get mars to move into it but we will do the same thing as we did on earth even with new tecnologies ... the car solar energy ,wind or any other would be great ,to see like some moovies such technology but i guess we are too advances at virus that can kill all of us from day to night.... they should be doing such research to improve our ecosystem not raise the money they had

22 years ago I made my first charitable contribution.  I wasn't sure what to donate to but there was a book with all sorts of charitable organizations and one of them jumped out at me.   It's called the Negative Population Growth organization.  I was impressed by the idea alone but the idea is also supported by trending numbers in population growth and many of their predictions have been correct.  Basically, the world population has been steadily growing and is expected to eventually hit 11 to 12 Billiion before leveling off and then declining again.  That's roughly double the current population. 

Can you imagine what it will be like with 12 Billion people?  The evil in the world will not be linear with this population growth.  It will be exponentially worse than it is now. 

IMO the environment policy should be based on the different area's situation, such as poorest or war-hit countries in Africa, Middle East. The ppl there are striving to live. So the priority for them is to fix their issues and develop their economy. When ppl get basic living standard (enough food to eat, house to live, basic entertainment), they will develop economy and put focus on the environment at the same time!   

the only good things besides bitcoin and crypto coins that allow normal people to get an easy extra income is that our mind is changing year by year soo WE CAN THINK AT EARTH and try to repair some things to avoid destroy it.

Sorry, I cannot get your logic. How do you refer crypto to earth?

Automation will improve quality of goods and building efficiency, but less jobs will be available, making the remaining ones an ultra competitive cesspool, that is the living contradiction of capitalism. We are headed towards a very interesting future, and also shitty for the common folk. I don't see no way to stop riots on a daily basis unless an universal welfare plan is started. Unfortunately the rich will keep getting better and the common folk will keep getting poorer (us).

money is impressed..... bitcoin is just technology soo for sure bitcoin is already above any coin over the world

We are going to need some high end technology to get some realistic expectations to colonize a planet and live on there. Right now, the candidates for an habitable planet are too far for us to reach, living in Mars is not viable unless only specialized people go for research purposes.

Can they go together? for a better future

The environment has always been an economical and political factor. In the future, it will have more sway in those types of affairs. Probably when global warming won't be argued as a myth but rather a reality. As of now for the economy, most corporations that use the earth's resources (like gasoline companies) don't give a rats ass about earth. They wish organizations like the EPA didn't exist as they continue to carelessly pollute our world for cash.

yes it is feasible, check Mars one, it is a very interesting project

there are 100 partecipant, that will be sent on mars in the 2025, then after those, other 10 people will be sent every year, and they will start to colonize mars there, by deplying a heavy structure like the one in alien 2

no one of those will return anymore it is one way trip

Have you heard about the genius entrepreneur Elon Musk? He's literally a real life Tony Stark! He is the CEO and CTO of SpaceX, CEO and product architect of Tesla Motors and chairman of SolarCity. The founder of SpaceX and a cofounder of Zip2, PayPal and Tesla Motors. If you don't know what these companies do, you don't know the future.

the future raelly have impact both of economy and earth,actually new invention make our live easier but the earth (nature) will be at rage, just dont to imagine, right now global warming is our big problem thats the one impact by the economy

Great Social thinking, there are some programs and campaigns still going on across the world to make attention of the climate changes to save the EARTH, do note that, every paper you print or produce it will have bad impact on global warming, so there should be some process which will have every methods in digital technology for instance... Bitcoin digital transactions.

yes bitcoin is ahead doesnt need paper to know you got paid or sent payment all digital.... like some banks offering it via mobile or computer.....but bitcoin there isnt a paper to watch to print anyway,people buy a car just to show other how he is doing great and drive it alone..... people keep liking to show their income with those kinds of things.... i have money and i dont need a car my work is 5 minutes away my house.... if i live away i would maybe go on bus or other transport...

earth will still be earth.

Heck if you talking about the enviroment, look at the oil industry on fracking or any past spills. Everything corrects itself.

I thought this is the present where he is about send us to space commercially and then bam bitcoins price goes up.

cause they all need bitcoin to go to the moon!  :D

well we advanced and the tecnology keeps too expensive ... should be cheaper.... to all be able to buy ,solar energy at brazil just some companies work with it and ask too many.... like 10 or 15 years of energy you pay without solar energy.... and hell brazil has sun almost all days...wind...... not get it at all.

People having an argument stating that technology has destroyed the earth is so ridiculous, wrong use of machinery for greed has destroyed the earth. Besides, there have been tech projects being developed/already in use to save the environment and protect the biosphere. Stopping ourselves from using technology doesn't sound so bright either.

Why are you tripping about that? Maybe the end is already kinda near. A MONSTER-sized asteroid that could wipe out life on Earth if it struck is set to brush past our planet in less than a MONTH.

Complete story: http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/587608/Mountain-sized-asteroid-wipe-Earth-heading-our-way-month-Brian-May-Brian-Cox-meteorite

Bitcoin and litecoin will seve the earth from destruction :)

Over the years , yes, we have evolved to an enormous extent such that this is the future now. But I don't consider it a bad thing. Advanced technology is not the reason for the disaster of our planet. In fact , it is the source that is pushing us more ahead to explore and make life better.

It is perhaps the most fundamental fact of our existence that without a healthy living Earth, there will be no humans. Without humans, there will be no money and no corporations. The right and responsibility of humans to secure the rights and well-being of nature is the most fundamental of all human rights and responsibilities. Sad to say that some people don't care about more the "Whole World" anymore , there will be time the world will kill us all.

Its True,
   Peoples are becoming aware about care world because is our home, it is unique,instead off fight wars,countries must want comprehensive solutions to solve damages causes by ourselves.A campaign of global reforest or massive  look be neccesary with never seens scales.....

Maybe you could ask the world leader to fix it, just like Caesar did.

One fine evening he thought about his armies using up all the woods. Let's build some hydro electric power plants, he thought, and then wind generators covering about ten percent of electricity usage. But maybe we should make some iron smelters first, to have steel for the bolts needed in the machines. Oh shit, I forgot someone has to invent those things, better set up a research center. And on and on, you get the idea.

So to take the world a step further, no, to find the final solution, our world leader has to do the same thing now. But maybe he can't, it is rather a lot to know and decide. He needs a committy, named the final answer committy, to find the solution. Maybe our world leader could hire elon musk as chief operating officer.

Or, my personal favorite: all people decide for themselves and let the market solve it.

Mars one is a shit project which ahs been delaying from a long time disregarding all the deadlines it sets for itself. If you are really interested in space colonization, you should follow Elon Musk. He is the real life Tony Stark... Owner of Tesla industries and SpaceEx, he has been revolutionizing the space industry with all his contributions and inventions. He has plans to colonize mars and I think he is the only capable man to do it. Oh, and also check out his net worth xD

Combustion of Fossil Fuels, for electricity generation, transportation, and heating, and also the manufacture of cement, all result in the total worldwide emission of about 22 billion tons of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere each year. About a third of this comes from electricity generation, and another third from transportation, and a third from all other sources.

That's so true! It's sad but true that in some parts of the world scientists are toiling day and night to save the environment while in the other, people are living in self consumption, obsessively spending and living lives as they hardly care, but they fail to understand that nature knows how to get the shit off its back. Earthquakes, tsunamis etc doesn't spare any ass...whether rich or not it gets beaten.

It is very vital to take such issues seriously. Consumerism has gripped its ugly hands on the humans and we are unable to free ourselves from its clutches. When there are workshops and meetings to discuss such issues people do attend it but rather than taking concrete steps all they do is blame each other. If every human checks himself half the problem gets solved.

Are you kidding? technology is literally pushing us ahead of the time. Environment today is being redeemed to it's fullest because of technology. We ARE living in the future right now. Because of tech. we were able to explore not only Earth but also the outer world , the whole universe. I agree that global issues are rising,  but it has nothing to do with how advanced we've become.

We are damaging the earth in the name of Economic progress. I believe we must focus more on our survival than on our wallets. Earth over Economy anyday!

I think economy, technology and nature can all work together with hand in hand, as they all co-depend on each other in one way or other. What we need is proper rendering of plans, allocation and protectionn of resources and proper economic strategies.

Who knows what the future will hold and what role the economy will play in it, but I do believe that humans one day will need to leave planet earth in order to further and insure the species' survival. Kind of like how they do it in the movie Interstellar.

A project called MARS One has been initiated to begin civilization outside Earth, on planet mars. They plan to take the finest humans from Earth and begin creating a new world in mars, expanding humanity to another planet. It has never  happened before, such an initiative has never been even made before. It would be exciting to see humans go destroy another planet now hahaha :P

Dude, I've heard about Mars one but I find it real shit. They have kept delaying their dead lines and I even heard the seats of all those prestigious individualists to begin civilization in mars have been bought by a group of rich secret millionaires. This kind of shit really upsets me and I don't really find any vision and belief in the CEO of Mars One.

The only person I feel capable enough of putting the human race on earth on any other planet is none other than Elon Musk. He is the CEO of Tesla industries and SpaceEx. He is totally a real life Tony Stark. Young, philanthropist billionaire. I believe in him and his projects. He has plans to expand humans out of earth and I think he can really fucking make it happen, not some mars one bullshit.

What''s the point of all the money if you're not alive to spend it? That's the situation today. However people are dumb enough to value their money over the very earth that's keeping them alive. The so called Economical progress is destroying the earth already. We should focus on sustainable use of resources at the moment.

Wow, that's a dark perspective. I think there are hundreds of years to come, don't you worry about it. However, I would like to believe that machines learn new things through AI (artificial intelligence) and take over something which we created, our earth. Soon we become their slaves and our population reduces and we become extinct in a thousand years. We were destroyed by something we gave birth to. Irony.

Yeah, I find a lot of trust and sincerity in the works of Elon Musk. Genius, philanthropist billionaire ;) Owner of SpaceEx and Tesla Industries. His recent work regarding colonizing mars sounds like a really elegant, organized and great plan. I think he has the right capabilities to take humans out to civilize on another planet, I have no faith in Mars One project.

What is the point of having money and not living? I mean how can we even compare these two. A sane person would lend his land for saving the earth rather than using it to grab a bundle of notes which will render useless to him in the long run. Behind this illusion of 'progress' we are causing a lot of damage to our earth. Sustainable development is what we need at the moment. People should realize that survival is more important than economy and should work for it!

"with my mind on my money and my money on my mind". Most of the people have only one thing in their mind - "MONEY". But what are you going to do with that money when you're sleeping forever in a grave? People need to wake up and realize that saving the earth is the priority at the moment. It doesn't mean that we stop earning but simply implies that stop destroying the earth for some money. If you cannot contribute to saving the environment, you have no right to damage it as well.

I agree to your point. It is true and so ironic. But it is unlikely that that is going to happen . Machines are created  to make human life easier , not to ' take over' their life . Although looking at all the things  happening 'round the world, there's a chance it might  be a possibility.

Dude what are you talking about? There is a robot out there which can learn to have new 'emotions and feelings' regarding others. That was the only thing which kept us different from humans. There are robots out there learning from their own mistakes. If all these machine expand and humans start RELYING over them, it won't be far that machines take over the world. LOL. Go watch terminator :P

Natural resources cannot be replaced, that's  the inevitable truth. We have advanced technology at our perusal and scientists are still advancing in their quest at supersonic speed with newer tech savvy gadgets etc but as we all have studied in Environmental Studies that some natural resources just  cannot be replicated and replaced. Some natural disasters also signal us at our lacuna but are we paying attention?

You're wrong I think. It is not the "fast" the problem but the "way in which the world goes fast". In other words I believe that faster we can go forward in every field of life (including the economy) better will every human being. But this faster must be fair with environment. We must adopt the technologies which don't damage it. There are to many and there will be even more in the future. If we adopt this kind of technologies we will not have any kind of problem and the environment will be friendly with us. If wen will see only for the profit and not the other specifics in a adopted technology then can be problems. About the today days are to many the initiatives which require the substitution of the technologies which damage the environment with others friendly with it. One of those is the agreement about the reduction of the carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere (The Kyoto Protocol) which is a very important agreement. But there are even to many other more local or less known initiatives which want the friendship with environment. Such initiatives must be increased and not the reduction of the going forward of the world development.

The way our debt-money system works, almost all money is debt.  You might own your money outright, but whoever paid you that money, or whoever paid that entity the money (if you keep tracing back), borrowed the money.  So, there's always some investor still waiting to be paid back those dollars you own.

If the system as a whole doesn't generate enough profits to pay back those investors, it will implode, since investors will liquidate.  So, in countless ways, the system nudges everyone to pursue profit and economic growth at all cost.  (You notice that growth is universally loved by politicians of all parties.)  Issues such as the environment get addressed only when there is enough outcry from the public.  They are routinely ignored by the hands on the levers of power.