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Economy => Securities => Topic started by: redbeans2012 on September 15, 2012, 01:31:11 AM



Title: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 15, 2012, 01:31:11 AM
Someone put a fake asset of GLBSE on a while back.  I bought 80 shares.  Nefario honored them anyways. 

I dont know how much they are worth.  Its not traded on the market.  Would rather trade with some extra BTC's.

Just throwing it out there. 

PM me if interested with a bid. :)


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: theymos on September 15, 2012, 01:48:55 AM
Those shares were not issued legitimately. Anything Nefario said about honoring them has not been approved by the GLBSE shareholders. They might not be honored, and I certainly hope they're not honored at an equivalent value to actual shares.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 15, 2012, 01:50:46 AM
Those shares were not issued legitimately. Anything Nefario said about honoring them has not been approved by the GLBSE shareholders. They might not be honored, and I certainly hope they're not honored at an equivalent value to actual shares.

Well i'm not making it up.  I'm sure if you go back you can find the thread.  I'll search.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: theymos on September 15, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Well i'm not making it up.  I'm sure if you go back you can find the thread.  I'll search.

I know that's what Nefario said, but he didn't say it with shareholder approval. Nefario can't unilaterally make such decisions.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 15, 2012, 01:57:58 AM
Well i'm not making it up.  I'm sure if you go back you can find the thread.  I'll search.

I know that's what Nefario said, but he didn't say it with shareholder approval. Nefario can't unilaterally make such decisions.

Are you a shareholder?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: theymos on September 15, 2012, 02:01:58 AM
Are you a shareholder?

Yes.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 15, 2012, 02:04:27 AM

would you like to buy the 80 shares that I bought off your companies exchange with your companies ticker?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Monster Tent on September 15, 2012, 02:53:00 AM
Since it was nefario's screw up the shares should come from his personal holding and not affect other glbse shareholders imo.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 15, 2012, 03:34:26 AM
Can I start the bidding at 1 satoshi per share?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: puffn on September 15, 2012, 05:13:18 AM
20


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Monster Tent on September 15, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
Well i'm not making it up.  I'm sure if you go back you can find the thread.  I'll search.

I know that's what Nefario said, but he didn't say it with shareholder approval. Nefario can't unilaterally make such decisions.

I bought the GLBSE stocks cuz of what Nefario said, did he scam me?    :)

If he acted to dilute glbse shares without  a shareholder vote then I dont know what you would call it. One would think he is only capable of promising his own personal holding in the company if anything.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 16, 2012, 12:32:28 AM
Bump


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: BinaryMage on September 16, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
I'd like some clarification from Nefario before, but I'd certainly consider bidding if these are indeed valid.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 16, 2012, 02:06:55 AM
I'd like some clarification from Nefario before, but I'd certainly consider bidding if these are indeed valid.

Nefario last said they were no good, however that would not really be fair...

So he said they were good, then he said they were no good? lol


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: fcmatt on September 16, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
The website can be used to sell spoofed or fake shares on it? Is that fail or what?
or am i misunderstanding?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 16, 2012, 02:36:12 AM
The website can be used to sell spoofed or fake shares on it? Is that fail or what?
or am i misunderstanding?

Well to be fair it was over a year ago, and glbse was more of a wild west.  But I thought for sure when I saw an actual GLBSE stock on there it was for real and bought some.  Who wouldn't? lol


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: puffn on September 16, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
I would like 1 as a novelty.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 16, 2012, 08:14:54 AM
The last 3 shares I sold were for an average of over 10 BTC each.

Maybe that says something about the value of actual glbse shares  :D



Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: theymos on September 16, 2012, 03:28:49 PM
The last 3 shares I sold were for an average of over 10 BTC each.

That's way overvalued. Actual shares aren't worth that much.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 16, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
The last 3 shares I sold were for an average of over 10 BTC each.

That's way overvalued. Actual shares aren't worth that much.

Could you give an idea what you value your actual shares at? Just curious.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: fcmatt on September 17, 2012, 01:50:28 AM
The last 3 shares I sold were for an average of over 10 BTC each.

That's way overvalued. Actual shares aren't worth that much.

Could you give an idea what you value your actual shares at? Just curious.

Hmm.. 50 dollars a share will buy a blue chip stock paying 3-5% div per year on nyse.

Gblse pays how much per year?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: bullioner on September 17, 2012, 06:09:59 AM

Hmm.. 50 dollars a share will buy a blue chip stock paying 3-5% div per year on nyse.


General statements about the properties of 50 dollar shares are entirely meaningless.  The value per share is arbitrary, because it depends on what proportion of the overall asset each share represents.  It could be an enterprise worth $100, with two shares issued.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 17, 2012, 02:07:07 PM
Is Nefario out of town?


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: redbeans2012 on September 19, 2012, 04:16:39 AM
 :-\

Bump for answers, I think this is a legit topic to discuss. Since this whole category is about the GLBSE.



Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: LoupGaroux on September 19, 2012, 05:08:26 AM
The very few that were sold out of fraud were never acknowledged by the real GLBSE owners as valid. Nefario did offer to convert them, but they were to be held accountable to the same restrictions that the original private shares of GLBSE, specifically that they were not to be offered on the open market, and that existing holders of the private equity would have first right of refusal on any share that were offered up. So any shares that made it out into the open, may or may not have value, depending solely on how Nefario wants to handle them, and if they do- then they need to be offered to Nefario and the other partners in GLBSE first, and cannot be sold to the general public until approved by GLBSE.

And yes, one of the few that was sold went for 10 btc. I know because I sold it. Others sold after that time for a whole lot less. And none of those transactions show up in BLBSE records for version 1.0 or 2.0, so good luck transferring something that has no record of every having been properly sold in the first place.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: theymos on September 22, 2012, 04:37:18 AM
I'll be selling some real GLBSE shares within the next few days. :)


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Nefario on September 22, 2012, 04:56:01 PM
We will be executing a forced buyback for all the outstanding shares of the asset GLBSE that was a scam asset, we will be paying the same price per asset that was paid when the scam happened (0.1BTC).

When the event happened, I didn't have the power to declare those assets as legitimate and doing so was a mistake on my part.

Nefario.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Nefario on September 22, 2012, 05:13:04 PM
We're not responsible for the price that people bought or sold on this asset.

It's being bought back at the price that it was initially sold at.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: LoupGaroux on September 22, 2012, 08:18:58 PM
Oh my, looks like some lovely popcorn times coming up... Goatse is going to be taking on GLBSE and asking scammer tags for Nefario, theymos and the rest of the folks that run it!

One wonders if you could be any more of a public ass?



Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: BadBear on September 22, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
Oh my, looks like some lovely popcorn times coming up... Goatse is going to be taking on GLBSE and asking scammer tags for Nefario, theymos and the rest of the folks that run it!

One wonders if you could be any more of a public ass?



He made a thread here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112071


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: LoupGaroux on September 22, 2012, 09:49:53 PM
Oh my, looks like some lovely popcorn times coming up... Goatse is going to be taking on GLBSE and asking scammer tags for Nefario, theymos and the rest of the folks that run it!

One wonders if you could be any more of a public ass?



He made a thread here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112071

While your link is accurate, I think it would be better described as Goatse committed ritual suicide there. Somebody needs to up his meds in a serious way, and soon.


Title: Re: 80 shares of Glbse for sale.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on September 23, 2012, 04:31:18 AM
We will be executing a forced buyback for all the outstanding shares of the asset GLBSE that was a scam asset, we will be paying the same price per asset that was paid when the scam happened (0.1BTC).

When the event happened, I didn't have the power to declare those assets as legitimate and doing so was a mistake on my part.

Nefario.

So the people who paid 11 BTc are fucked?

You know this is more or less scamming and we should make public your ID?

What did the contract for those scam assets say ? It would be interesting if there even was one.