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Title: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 07:46:32 PM
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If you are a lottery player, we want to know how much you might play if offered an Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿.

  • Purchase price per pick would be 1 m฿ (฿0.001)
  • 10% bonus on purchase (given as a random quick pick)
  • 90 minute refund window or until 1 hour prior to drawing
  • Drawing hold every 5 days
  • 18 different ways to win, overall odds of winning 7.39:1 (Jackpot odds similar to PowerBall)
  • Proof of Jackpot (Ability to pay)
  • 100% Provably Fair
  
Lottery play would be through website or mobile with SSL.  

(EDIT: 17:43:00 PDT)

Gathering statics for feasible of this lottery, so please vote honestly.

Feel free to ask any questions, and will answer if possible.

PLEASE NOTE: Will delete any posting not related to this question


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: anderson00673 on June 22, 2015, 08:28:02 PM
Hi, I see lottery games as something of an entertainment, but not something that is easy to win.  At those prices I would buy 5, maybe 10 entries just for fun.  It could be a good game.  I like the 10% bonus thing.

So do you mean that the payout is guaranteed, like it is held in escrow, or do you mean that someone is guaranteed to win each game, so that the jackpot will be claimed every time?  I really like that idea, it would make things more interesting.  If no one hits the numbers would you just award it to the closest winner, or divide it up amongst the top draws?


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
Hi, I see lottery games as something of an entertainment, but not something that is easy to win.  At those prices I would buy 5, maybe 10 entries just for fun.  It could be a good game.  I like the 10% bonus thing.

So do you mean that the payout is guaranteed, like it is held in escrow, or do you mean that someone is guaranteed to win each game, so that the jackpot will be claimed every time?  I really like that idea, it would make things more interesting.  If no one hits the numbers would you just award it to the closest winner, or divide it up amongst the top draws?

The payout is guaranteed like escrow, and would be paid to the winner.

As for any lottery we have lower prizes for non-jackpot wins.


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: yahoo62278 on June 22, 2015, 08:39:19 PM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 08:42:38 PM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out

You are correct that is BTC2000, as stated we would offer proof for guarantee.


The reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: vennali on June 22, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out

You are correct that is BTC2000.  


The reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.
Feasable yes, but it is quite imporbable that it will happen. 2000 BTC is a pretty large prize money. Most of the lottery sites already shutdown due to lack of interest. Say if the deposit or tickets bought amounted to 200 BTC today and the draw was tomorrow which would be paying out a GTD 2000 BTC, then I am sure most would be interested in buying tickets as long as its provably fair.


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 08:50:14 PM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out

You are correct that is BTC2000.  


The reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.
Feasable yes, but it is quite imporbable that it will happen. 2000 BTC is a pretty large prize money. Most of the lottery sites already shutdown due to lack of interest. Say if the deposit or tickets bought amounted to 200 BTC today and the draw was tomorrow which would be paying out a GTD 2000 BTC, then I am sure most would be interested in buying tickets as long as its provably fair.

Drawings are 100% Provably Fair, with absolutely no way for site or customers knowing the draw outcome before hand.


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: katerniko1 on June 22, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
lets say like this.
you can have proof of 2000btc (like cold storage) but how can we know you will give it if someone wins.
if you put that amount in (escrow like quickseller or someone like that) and he confirm he will hold it untill someone win im sure i would buy tickets always. + that needs to be fair lottery.
if all this is completed im sure i would play it :)
regards.
-Katerniko1


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: trafficolaa on June 22, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
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First you have to fix the problem with your site SSL connection because it showing warning when i tried to access the website, Second i am also interested to see the proof of funds for jackpot amount, you have to also fix the date on login page because it is out dated.


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Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
lets say like this.
you can have proof of 2000btc (like cold storage) but how can we know you will give it if someone wins.
if you put that amount in (escrow like quickseller or someone like that) and he confirm he will hold it untill someone win im sure i would buy tickets always. + that needs to be fair lottery.
if all this is completed im sure i would play it :)
regards.
-Katerniko1

You are correct that there are many scammer out there.  Our group has been legally licensed in the online gaming since 1999 and had many bingo jackpot won during our run.

Again, the reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.




Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 22, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
First you have to fix the problem with your site SSL connection because it showing warning when i tried to access the website, Second i am also interested to see the proof of funds for jackpot amount, you have to also fix the date on login page because it is out dated.

The question is would you play, and how much?  

We are targeting early September for a complete overhaul.  Current website has been in hiatus for some time now, and
is basically a stub.

So please don't let the website current state influence the poll.



Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: marioantonini on June 22, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
The problem is the escrow, you can't have only one escrow for 2000 btc. How many different escrow you add? 10? 100 ?
for me, is most plausible (and i can buy different ticket) a lottery with less btc win


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: ShamrockHannah on June 22, 2015, 11:19:58 PM
I would probably get 5. The chance of winning is so slim that I never really see the point.

Although on the other hand, my boyfriend, my aunty and my brother all won something the first or second time they played the lotto, I'm only talking about small prizes, not some mad jackpot or anything. We were talking about this and they all agree that when they first start playing lottery (any one, doesn't matter) they seemed to be winning little bits here and there. To the point of profiting by small amounts.

I know that is obviously just a coincidence but it's just a bit unusual. In a good way.

Maaybe I will have a go and just cross my fingers, see what happens.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: PM Poker on June 23, 2015, 12:19:46 AM
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If you are a lottery player, we want to know how much you might play if offered an Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿.

  • Purchase price per pick would be 1 m฿ (฿0.001)
  • 10% bonus on purchase (given as a random quick pick)
  • 90 minute refund window or until 1 hour prior to drawing
  • Drawing hold every 5 days
  • 18 different ways to win, overall odds of winning 7.39:1 (Jackpot odds similar to PowerBall)
  • Proof of Jackpot (Ability to pay)
  • 100% Provably Fair
  
Lottery play would be through website or mobile with SSL.  

(EDIT: 17:43:00 PDT)

Gathering statics for feasible of this lottery, so please vote honestly.

Feel free to ask any questions, and will answer if possible.

PLEASE NOTE: Will delete any posting not related to this question

There have been over 100 views already with only 8 submissions.

This poll is critical to know if a real traditional lottery is viable.

We are very aware of all the concerns about getting paid should someone win.  All we are asking is, if Provably Fair, and Proof of Jackpot would you actually play and how much.

Should we elect to proceed with this, we then would handle everyone’s concerns to make sure they trust the site.

Again, thank you



Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: sirtof on June 23, 2015, 01:00:15 AM
I love this idea and would purchase 10 or more  8)


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: monbux on June 23, 2015, 01:17:47 AM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out

You are correct that is BTC2000.  


The reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.
Feasable yes, but it is quite imporbable that it will happen. 2000 BTC is a pretty large prize money. Most of the lottery sites already shutdown due to lack of interest. Say if the deposit or tickets bought amounted to 200 BTC today and the draw was tomorrow which would be paying out a GTD 2000 BTC, then I am sure most would be interested in buying tickets as long as its provably fair.

2000 BTC is unheard of, I've never seen a bitcoin lottery offer that much in guaranteed winnings.  I would buy 10 tickets just for fun. 
Please also note that although this is the biggest bitcoin forum currently out there, you won't get everyone's opinions on one thread. 

One question, how would the 2000 BTC be kept prior to the drawing?  In multiple escrows?

Good Luck!


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: pooya87 on June 23, 2015, 03:40:32 AM
i love a fair and true lottery. they are fun and i think i would buy 5-10 picks since i like to try my chance.
but unfortunately i haven't seen any good lottery so far. and honestly i feel like 2000BTC is too good to be true.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: RHavar on June 23, 2015, 04:27:41 AM
I'd definitely purchase a few tickets, but I'd want to see it completely on-chain, fully provably fair, and include the scripts to reproduce the drawings. And to believe you're going to pay, I think more than just have the money you'd have to escrow the jackpot in say 2-out-3 multisig. (Where you could hold one, and two very trusted people from the bitcoin community each hold one each)


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: jeannemadrigal2 on June 23, 2015, 05:00:07 AM
I would buy 10, but only if the funds were held with a trusted escrow ahead of the draw.  I like the idea of such a large jackpot but I am skeptical that you will sell enough tickets for such a large jackpot to happen.  What about a raffle style drawing, where the winnings scale with how much is put in?


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: boopy265420 on June 23, 2015, 05:55:54 AM
I would like to buy 11-25 picks for each dawings to have multiple chances to win jackpot.Question is same how would you assure the players that in case of hitting the jackpot the prize will be delivered to the winner without any problem. Many people have demanded the escrow and would second them to put the jackpot amount at multiple escrow as this is huge amount.


Title: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: PM Poker on June 23, 2015, 12:23:22 PM

When making your selection, please just consider your actual playing habits.

One might hypothesize yet another scam; nonetheless we are just seeking informational data. 

If this project comes to fruition, we would have to assure players confidence in all areas of the game.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: lexuz on June 23, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
The prize is 2000btc, you have alot money bro. I would buy 10 pick if using escrow service. Hope lucky i am for this lottery


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: oser41eric on June 23, 2015, 12:48:19 PM
Well I play the normlal lottery every weekend so I could give this a try also, to pride me away from my hard earned money though I would need to see proof that you could pay the 2000btc assuming of course that I am super super lucky and win the jackpot, can you provide a signed message from an address with 2000btc in it? If you could I would have no problem buying 25-50 picks :)


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: oser41eric on June 23, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
Well I play the normlal lottery every weekend so I could give this a try also, to pride me away from my hard earned money though I would need to see proof that you could pay the 2000btc assuming of course that I am super super lucky and win the jackpot, can you provide a signed message from an address with 2000btc in it? If you could I would have no problem buying 25-50 picks :)

Could you please put that amount into our poll.

Right if you read what I wrote "I would have no problem buying 25-50 if you can sign a message with 2000btc in the wallet", asking me to make the vote I have to assume you can infact provide a signed message with said amount in the wallet? Please answer me as this is more important than making a vote. Why you delete your post?


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: newcripto on June 23, 2015, 12:57:36 PM
Well I play the normlal lottery every weekend so I could give this a try also, to pride me away from my hard earned money though I would need to see proof that you could pay the 2000btc assuming of course that I am super super lucky and win the jackpot, can you provide a signed message from an address with 2000btc in it? If you could I would have no problem buying 25-50 picks :)
I would buy 10 picks for this jackpot on each draw without disturbing my budget.I am also used to play local lottery in my country.I will stop that fro a while to try my luck here.I think this is not big amount so everyone can afford to play 10 picks for 2000btc.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: PM Poker on June 23, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Well I play the normlal lottery every weekend so I could give this a try also, to pride me away from my hard earned money though I would need to see proof that you could pay the 2000btc assuming of course that I am super super lucky and win the jackpot, can you provide a signed message from an address with 2000btc in it? If you could I would have no problem buying 25-50 picks :)

Could you please put that amount into our poll.

Right if you read what I wrote "I would have no problem buying 25-50 if you can sign a message with 2000btc in the wallet", asking me to make the vote I have to assume you can infact provide a signed message with said amount in the wallet? Please answer me as this is more important than making a vote.

As we stated, if this project comes to fruition, we would have to assure players confidence in all areas of the game.
This would also include proof of the BTC2000. 

This is just a fact finding mission at this time.  Polling result (given ample size) should show if there is enough support for such a lottery.   Our goal would be to have this type of lottery within a few months.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: PM Poker on June 23, 2015, 08:25:30 PM
Bumped...  We need more polling, at least 200 votes would give us a semi-accurate idea from this forum.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: oser41eric on June 24, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
Well I play the normlal lottery every weekend so I could give this a try also, to pride me away from my hard earned money though I would need to see proof that you could pay the 2000btc assuming of course that I am super super lucky and win the jackpot, can you provide a signed message from an address with 2000btc in it? If you could I would have no problem buying 25-50 picks :)

Could you please put that amount into our poll.

Right if you read what I wrote "I would have no problem buying 25-50 if you can sign a message with 2000btc in the wallet", asking me to make the vote I have to assume you can infact provide a signed message with said amount in the wallet? Please answer me as this is more important than making a vote.

As we stated, if this project comes to fruition, we would have to assure players confidence in all areas of the game.
This would also include proof of the BTC2000. 

This is just a fact finding mission at this time.  Polling result (given ample size) should show if there is enough support for such a lottery.   Our goal would be to have this type of lottery within a few months.


Glad to hear it because if it does come to fruition then a signed message from an address with 2000btc would be the only way I personaly would part from any of my funds, that is a lot of money in a lottery jackpot. $500,000,00 'ish' massive maybe the biggest btc lottery jackpot? Good luck getting your required amount of votes, I would love to see this get started.


Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: NeuroticFish on June 24, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
is my math wrong here? youre guaranteeing 2000btc? most lottery ideas havent gone far on here because noone trusts it will be paid out

You are correct that is BTC2000, as stated we would offer proof for guarantee.


The reason for this poll is to see if it's actually feasible.

The amount is too big to be true. And you know the saying about "too good to be true".
With 2000BTC even the most trusted escrow could run with the money.
You must gather that amount (plus your margin) to actually give that out and it would take enough time for you to play around with the 5-20 BTC you'd actually gather from the ones that'd try this out.



Title: Re: Lottery Question
Post by: PM Poker on June 24, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
The amount is too big to be true. And you know the saying about "too good to be true".
With 2000BTC even the most trusted escrow could run with the money.
You must gather that amount (plus your margin) to actually give that out and it would take enough time for you to play around with the 5-20 BTC you'd actually gather from the ones that'd try this out.

We are not stupid, and been a licensed online gaming business since 1999.  

We know all the requirements to assure players that such a prize would be paid.  Yes it is unheard of in the Bitcoin community, but that's one reason we want to have a true traditional lottery that players can and will trust.

A lottery system must be mathematically sound, and with one of the top professors at UNLV, and over 5 Billion picks simulated; we were able to come within 0.0001% of the actual odds.  

All we want to know is there enough interest from the  Bitcoin community to even offer this type of prize.

(With the current sampling of 23 votes and over 500 views, it does not look promising)


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: lexuz on June 24, 2015, 11:31:29 AM
Im interested to trying but im confused with lottery in poker gambling. What thats means, and one again my question pm poker can play in my browser, i mean html version


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: IanQuinn on June 27, 2015, 08:21:06 PM
Would love to try this.  Spend about $20 a week already on lottery and would like to see a Bitcoin Lottery that's just as enjoyable.


Title: Re: POLL: Lottery Question Regarding Guaranteed 2,000,000 m฿ Jackpot
Post by: Pastafarian on June 27, 2015, 09:02:20 PM
Would definitely try this out  :D