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Title: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ammy009 on June 27, 2015, 08:36:53 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ComboChris on June 27, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Hexcoin on June 27, 2015, 08:43:45 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

If you love using martingale as method, it will be better if you will play on a game with less house edge like dice. One more thing, there is no such winning strategy on gambling


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: SyGambler on June 27, 2015, 08:46:13 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

Well technically there is no working strategy
it's all about your luck , of course if you are using martinagle u may need a bigger bankroll and in some point a streak will come and your all money would be gone
I would recommend you to check this site , of course you won't find a winning strategy but at least you may find something interesting about other strategies
http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/ (http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/)


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: elm on June 27, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.

would you mind please to explain the 3.6% roulette house edge? thanks


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: lottoitaliano on June 27, 2015, 09:02:37 AM
Roulette have no method, only lucky. I have see in one night to the live casinò , 14 time consecutive the black number. Play with martingale is impossible, because more roulette have table limit and you can lose all


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: magicmexican on June 27, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

To own the Roulette site and have people trying to figure out the best winning method of Roulette on it


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: waterpile on June 27, 2015, 09:05:01 AM
There is no winning method and of course if there is one existing method, people wouldn't share that secret.. Don't use martingale if you only have small bankroll..


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: newcripto on June 27, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
There is no strategy in gambling especially in Roulette,Slot machines and Dice on long term.All what makes you money is purely your luck . If it is your day you will take just right decision when place bets all will go in right way.If you win some amount, better take little break and then start playing again this way may be you succeed to make some amount.If you keep playing continuously you are for sure going to end at loss.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: WhatTheGox on June 27, 2015, 09:07:28 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.

would you mind please to explain the 3.6% roulette house edge? thanks


Depends what roulette wheel you are using euro or USA style but lets say it has a single zero:

You have 36 numbers and a 0, you get 35-1 paid out on any number but the true odds of hitting any single number are 36-1.  

You get 2-1 payout on a red or black but the 0 = green.   The zero is basically the house edge.



Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ShamrockHannah on June 27, 2015, 09:20:33 AM
Use the Martingale but with lower bets. That way you get away with more consecutive losses before you go bust. Yes it takes a lot longer but at least you don't end up completely skint!


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: boopy265420 on June 27, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
Were you placing the bets on same color or odd/even ? Or you changed one of your betting after seeing continuous losing results ? European Roulette has advantage where only one green can appear where on American Roulette are 2 greens.When you use the martingale method you must stick with same strategy with what you are playing from the start.I am with positive balance on Roulette with this strategy although I do agree there is no 100% strategy in Roulette.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: magicmexican on June 27, 2015, 09:27:02 AM
While we are on this important and innovative topic about beating Roulette (and martingale), we might as well try to figure out if the wheel has a memory or not.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: trafficolaa on June 27, 2015, 09:38:03 AM
Using martingale is dangerous in gambling where the house edge exist, if we compare your losing streak with the house edge than this is nothing i have personally experienced 21 losing streak in Roulette by using martingale method, one and only important thing in gambling is luck even we can lose at dice game too with martingale where the hose edge very low compare to Roulette.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: elm on June 27, 2015, 09:40:00 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.

would you mind please to explain the 3.6% roulette house edge? thanks


Depends what roulette wheel you are using euro or USA style but lets say it has a single zero:

You have 36 numbers and a 0, you get 35-1 paid out on any number but the true odds of hitting any single number are 36-1.  

You get 2-1 payout on a red or black but the 0 = green.   The zero is basically the house edge.



that is correct but single zero roulette has 2.7% house edge and house edge is less according to single chance handling in case zero shows up. will the bet be caged or lose half immediately. therefore I wanted to know where the 3.6% are coming from?



Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: photon_coin on June 27, 2015, 09:43:47 AM
Remember when playing roulette, dice, flipping coins ... one thing


The wheel/dice/coin does not 'remember' what came up previously.

So if playing roulette and red comes up seven times in a row human nature is to think that black is 'due' or 'overdue' to come in and while from a math standpoint rolled up to very large numbers things will average out if the wheel is fair.....

Gambling boils down to risking a wager where if you play long enough the house always wins.....

Gambling is ok for entertainment but don't get carried away.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 27, 2015, 09:51:35 AM
There is no proven method to win on roulette mate, it's just a game of luck. Maybe put your chips on a split section, like across two numbers to give you double the chance to win.
I normally have 5 or 6 chips (split) on each spin to give me 10-12 opportunities to win.
I don't play roulette online any way, I never trust it.

It's better to play in a casino but even then there is no proven method to win, if anybody tries to tell you that there is then they're either a very lucky gambler or lying.

I've had mixed luck playing roulette, I went to Vegas back in March & had fun, stayed at The Bellagio & played on a few tables, just remember only bet what you can afford to lose & looking at the losing streak in your OP maybe roulette isn't for you ;D Give dice games a go - https://dadice.com


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: FanEagle on June 27, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
I already showed my short term strategies.
I will post them once more.
https://i.imgur.com/qf2My2A.png
https://i.imgur.com/N1vg7eR.png
https://i.imgur.com/TLlBJh7.png
Most of the times I go for third or first dozen, rarely on second dozen.
I like live roulette more, even if most of the times it's more expensive.
Good luck.
My free 2 bits.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: kronkodil on June 27, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
I play only to the live roulette with girl in cam, if i win i'm happy, if i lose, i have see nice girl  ;D

Roulette is very azzard, to Venice Casino i remember three times consecutive 0


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: lexuz on June 27, 2015, 10:31:33 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Roulette just needed big lucky if you want win when you play roulette. If you feel lucky go head but dont spend much money just for play roulette. No the way for winning just needed big lucky


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Ruzka on June 27, 2015, 10:45:23 AM
Winning method roulette you say?

No legit legal way of beating the devils game, if you have connections in live casino's and they want to risk spinning for you that would be one method but the chances are almost 0 they would do that for you.

BTC roulette unless you hack the site there is no winning method, stop looking for things that do not exsist the next thing you will buy a "winning roulette strategy" from an honest soul who just wants you to win :)



Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ammy009 on June 27, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  ;D :D :)


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: subSTRATA on June 27, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  ;D :D :)

what did you expect? all there is to roulette is randomness; theres no strategy to that and there can't be. I thought this question was ridiculous to be honest.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: FanEagle on June 27, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
Martingale or fibonacci methods are good only if you have a budget of like 3000 btc and you start with like 0.01 bets.
With my method at least you get some profitin short time, don't expect my method to work for 3 hours straight

The only way to make in good use of those methods are probably blackjack, on live dealers.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulettein gambling. Thanks to all  ;D :D :)

Corrected that part for you, not only roulette but it is for every luck based game

Martingale or fibonacci methods are good only if you have a budget of like 3000 btc and you start with like 0.01 bets.

JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: FanEagle on June 27, 2015, 11:39:26 AM

JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools

Well, I was speficing with an example.. let's take this example: Doges, on the site I usually use, min bet is 1 doge, max bet is 1500000 and internal bet is max: 250000 so, in that case, you can test the methods "safely" still it doesn't worth so much.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 11:49:54 AM

JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools

Well, I was speficing with an example.. let's take this example: Doges, on the site I usually use, min bet is 1 doge, max bet is 1500000 and internal bet is max: 250000 so, in that case, you can test the methods "safely" still it doesn't worth so much.

Each time you win there is an increase of 1 doge to your bankroll and each time you lose , you doubled up your lost amount which eventually "may" hit the max bet if you are unlucky. I wouldnt say that this is safe but the chance to hit the max bet is pretty low but then judging from the gained amount each time you win, I'd say it is not worth to try

Worst is that when someone trying to martingale at roulette which has around 2.x ~ house edge for a single zero roulette and 5.x ~ house edge for a double zero roulette. Although the probability for that small "bet" to hit the max bet is close to zero that doesnt mean that it wont happen and with the high house edge in roulette it will be much easier to happen

So in conclusion : not worth to use especially if it is roulette

Nothing is much better than owning a gambling sites or be a part of of their bankroll if someone is asking for a winning strategy in gambling


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Phildo on June 27, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
every bet on a roulette table (except the "first five" 0,00,1,2,3) is equally stupid (that bet is worse).

There is no strategy to win, you need to be lucky and guess the right number.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: siwakotisaurav on June 27, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
Well personally I don't even play roulette, way less house edge at dice and even if you want to play roulette , playing at an actual casino rather than an online one would be better . And you get to try many strats at many payouts. Well I could keep going at the advantages of dice.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: WhatTheGox on June 27, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  ;D :D :)

Nope because generally casinos dont want to pay someone to sit on their butts.  If it was possible for people to beat games in simply ways then the whole economy would crash.  There are things you can gain edge over like counting cards in black jack for example. 

If you are just playing for fun i suggest dice since it has the lowest house edge of all but just play for fun only.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
playing at an actual casino rather than an online one would be better .

How is that playing an actual / live roulette would be better? It is not better but actually that you will feel much more suspense if you are playing a live one. Some risk of playing live roullete is that most roulette operator are trained to land the ball in a specific area which means that your chance to lose is actually higher than an online provably fair roulette ( only if the site is totally fair ).
Another risk would be that some roulette wheels could be biased, this is actually a good thing for gamblers if they could identified this but if they cant then this is a sure way to lose more often

In most licensed land casino there will be montly inspection for roulette wheels to prevent players from taking an advantages of a biased wheels however some gamblers actually see through this and took the advantage of the biased wheel

If you are just playing for fun i suggest dice since it has the lowest house edge of all but just play for fun only.

Wrong, the lowest fix house edge game is BlackJack ( this depends on the house rules but mostly it is always below 1 % ). Lowest variable house edge game is Bustabit

For references on BlacJack's house edge , use this http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: HeroCat on June 27, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Just expected up to 25 - 30 red strikes with martingale, from here just calculate your BTC starting balance  ;)


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: srgkrgkj on June 27, 2015, 01:10:02 PM
the best youll get from roulette is managing your losses as placing chips on both colours and splitting up in right amounts can mean that you minimize losses if you happen to incur many, with roulette so far im lucky and the colours are always predicatable only seen a 0 once in my entire life :D


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 27, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
placing chips on both colours and splitting up in right amounts can mean that you minimize losses

Heard of this before and it is not really minimizing your loss and it is just some kind of different form of "martingale". Basically by doing this you are going to put 1 chip on red and 2 chips on black. This depends on what your choice is so if you choose red to win than put 2 chips on red and 1 chip on black

First sequence :
If black is hit then you get 4 chips back but net profit is 1 chip because you lost 1 chip on red .

If red is hit then you get 1 chip which means that you are still losing 1 chip because you wagered 2 chips on black.

Second sequence and so on :
You will then need to double up your bet to cover up what you lost so this time it will be 2 chips on red and 4 chips on black and so on . If black is hit then you get 4 chips and net profit will be 1 chip because you wagered 2 on red and lost 1 from the previous roll but if red is hit then you get 2 chips but your loss keep on doubling up this time you are -3 chips

See the bolded part? No difference with martingale-in with 1 chip I guess  :) . This is some kind of martingale for roulette I'd say


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ajareselde on June 27, 2015, 08:48:54 PM
What i like to do is to make a bunch of minimum wagers on a 50% chance, red-black,even-odd or high-low, and then wait
for 4 or 5 consecutive losses, then i place my first real wager, and double it up from there.

In the end, it's all about luck, but some might argue that this is a bit better than straight up entering with first bet, due to statistics.

cheers


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: bitbaby on June 28, 2015, 02:29:03 AM
It all comes down to luck but I have been really lucky with roulette in the past (don't have the time to play now) but first thing you should do is only play at sites which are provably fair. Second thing is don't play the colors (Red,Black), if you choose a certain numbers and try martingaling on them, you'd still have a better chance of winning but that been said nothing is for certain, so don't go in over your head, play with only amount of money you can afford to lose. When I play I use different personal strategies and so far they have worked in my favor but they take a bit of time and are not based on martingale.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Coef on June 28, 2015, 03:51:20 AM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.

would you mind please to explain the 3.6% roulette house edge? thanks


Depends what roulette wheel you are using euro or USA style but lets say it has a single zero:

You have 36 numbers and a 0, you get 35-1 paid out on any number but the true odds of hitting any single number are 36-1. 

You get 2-1 payout on a red or black but the 0 = green.   The zero is basically the house edge.



that is correct but single zero roulette has 2.7% house edge and house edge is less according to single chance handling in case zero shows up. will the bet be caged or lose half immediately. therefore I wanted to know where the 3.6% are coming from?



The 3.6% number is just wrong.
Just as WhatTheGox mentioned, you have a 1 in 37 chance to get 36x of your wagered back, and so the EV is 36/37 = 97.3% and the house edge is 1-36/37 = 2.7%.

With the presence of "La Partage" or "En prison" rule, the house edge will be halved and become 1.35%.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: erpbridge on June 28, 2015, 05:29:57 AM
Obviously being negative Expected value, there isn't any any method to win. But to not lose your bankroll, I like playing on the 2/3 chance by betting on 2 rows out of 3. And I sort of martingale from there. You could also try around 90% by betting on all numbers except for 0 , and 3 other numbers. But in the end its only upto your luck and nothing can guarantee winning.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 28, 2015, 08:41:07 AM
if you choose a certain numbers and try martingaling on them, you'd still have a better chance of winning

A numbers? If you actually meant to select 1 number and martingale them all up then it is a complete disaster as the probability to win is low enough especially if you are playing it in roulette

Obviously being negative Expected value, there isn't any any method to win.

Having a negative EV isnt always a guarantee that you will "always" lose and having positive EV isnt a guarantee that you will "always" win ( in the long run then it is almost always ). You cant turn your negative EV into positive EV unless you become part of the house by investing on their bankroll however there is a method on turning that negative EV closer to zero "if you know how to do it properly" . Im merely pointing it to bustabit for example because it is pretty easy to turn the tide there with the bonus for each rounds

But to not lose your bankroll, I like playing on the 2/3 chance by betting on 2 rows out of 3. And I sort of martingale from there.

Betting 2 out of 3 colums or dozens and martingale them if you lose strategy is pretty much the same as betting on either red and black and martingale them all out with slightly higher chance to win





Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: kronkodil on June 28, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
For speak in casino staff, i play in the past to one live roulette to italian tv live, and the camera is only to the legs of woman croupier, and see very bad a roulette, nodoby understand if win or not, later ball stop, the camera see the roulette


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: shanem on June 28, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
There is no method to win for the Roulette in online casino.
However, it is possible for the experienced dealer to rig the game to allow the roulette land on certain numbers more often.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: zz11 on June 28, 2015, 02:16:44 PM
Einstein once said :

“No one can possibly win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn’t looking.”


Unless you are clever than Einsten, you won't find a winning method. And the house edge is pretty big


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: grendel25 on June 28, 2015, 08:12:50 PM
The Labouchere/Cancellation method is a good alternative to Martingale that is more resistant to long losing streaks.  Instead of incrementing by double the last bet, it just adds one betting unit until you win and then it subtracts one betting unit if you win until you finally win the original bet.  It's sort of like going up and down a ladder.

So, if all you were trying to do is win "1" unit and started betting 1 here's an example of that:

1 - W
1 - W
1 - L
2 - L
3 - L
3 - W
2 - L
3 - W
2 - W
1 - W

End of sequence.  In this you can see the +1 progression on Losses and -1 digression on Wins.  At the end of this example sequence the bettor would be up 3 units.

Usually, there is a more complicated sequence of bets such 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1.  The sequence doesn't finish until each starting bet is finally won.



Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: melody82 on June 28, 2015, 08:35:04 PM
Roulette is imo one of the worst games as far as winning money, however for me it is also one of the most fun games.  I don't like playing it online, but if yo play it in person it is exciting to see everyone stack up their best, and then wait in anticipation as the ball slowly stops rolling.  But the odds are much better to make money with blackjack and poker (if you know how to play), and even dice sites.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Indamuck on June 28, 2015, 09:54:26 PM
First things first:

Define what your objective is. Nobody here has seemed to do that.


Is your objective to to maximize the probability of walking away with a gain?
Is it to blow off 1 hr spinning the wheel, and enjoying the thrill?
Is it to devise a 'strategy' that is likely to win more often than not, over multiple gambling sessions?

Each of these objectives leads to a different 'strategy.'

Nobody can answer your question until you've clearly and honestly stated your objective ... all the prior answers assume some objective, and not everyone is making the same assumption.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Indamuck on June 28, 2015, 09:57:45 PM

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

The best winning method is to never play. Never bet your chips, never spin the wheel. Do this, and in the end you will have done significantly better than average.

Alternately: buy some casino stocks and stand on the 'house' side of the wheel.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: brow_eye on June 28, 2015, 10:11:57 PM

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

The best winning method is to never play. Never bet your chips, never spin the wheel. Do this, and in the end you will have done significantly better than average.

Alternately: buy some casino stocks and stand on the 'house' side of the wheel.
or you can always do some good old martingale for some bets and hope that you will not loose and will make at least some profit


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ivanst776 on June 28, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
if there was any flawless 'method' to beating roulette, don't you think we'd know about it and casinos would have stopped offering it?


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: grendel25 on June 29, 2015, 12:45:50 AM
if there was any flawless 'method' to beating roulette, don't you think we'd know about it and casinos would have stopped offering it?

And yet that obvious point doesn't stop people from asking.  And yet there are many gamblers that continue to play roulette despite the fact there is no perfect system.  The thing is that gamblers see when they have won and always second guess themselves to think that maybe if they had stopped gambling at this point or that point then maybe they'd have a profit. 

And actually, that's true.  But mastering when to stop is a difficult task but also part of a winning 'system'.  I look at it this way.. If I'm up $100 in a casino, I look at that $100 and I think about what it's useful for (other than the next bet).  Half the time I'll go cash it in and maybe go spend some of it.  As long as it's not more than I was ever willing to lose then it's okay.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ammy009 on June 29, 2015, 06:05:09 AM
The Labouchere/Cancellation method is a good alternative to Martingale that is more resistant to long losing streaks.  Instead of incrementing by double the last bet, it just adds one betting unit until you win and then it subtracts one betting unit if you win until you finally win the original bet.  It's sort of like going up and down a ladder.

So, if all you were trying to do is win "1" unit and started betting 1 here's an example of that:

1 - W
1 - W
1 - L
2 - L
3 - L
3 - W
2 - L
3 - W
2 - W
1 - W

End of sequence.  In this you can see the +1 progression on Losses and -1 digression on Wins.  At the end of this example sequence the bettor would be up 3 units.

Usually, there is a more complicated sequence of bets such 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1.  The sequence doesn't finish until each starting bet is finally won.



wow good idea. now I'm going to try this method ......


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 29, 2015, 06:28:41 AM
it is possible for the experienced dealer to rig the game to allow the roulette land on certain numbers more often.


Roulette operators are trained to land the ball in some specific area of the wheel however you cant used this to your advantages as this will be a backfire for you. The moment you put in your wheels in the 1st column, they will land it on the second column and so on. If you wish to  grab an advantage of a live roulette then best thing is to examine the wheels for few hours to know if the wheel is biased or not and use it to your advantage

First things first:
Define what your objective is. Nobody here has seemed to do that.

People just dont realize that they are a winner the moment they gain 10,001 satoshi in a gambling site ( considering the site use 10k standard miners fee ) . People just wish to have more and gamble blindly (most people) while they could actually "win" by knowing on how to turn the favor of those edge to them which being part of the bankroll is one of it or know how to lower the edge to be closer to zero by taking advantages of bonuses and such


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Pony789 on June 29, 2015, 06:41:59 AM
Firstly, roulette is about luck and there is a house edge to make sure the house will win more likely than to lose. The more you play, the larger the effect of house edge will be.
Secondly, even if there is a winning method, you should use it on dice sites which have lower house edge.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: ammy009 on June 29, 2015, 06:48:03 AM
Firstly, roulette is about luck and there is a house edge to make sure the house will win more likely than to lose. The more you play, the larger the effect of house edge will be.
Secondly, even if there is a winning method, you should use it on dice sites which have lower house edge.

So, there is any wining method for dice ??? I have no idea about dice game actually. I've played several times Roulette, Blackjack, Poker & Slots in the non btc gambling sites.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: Pony789 on June 29, 2015, 07:15:15 AM
Firstly, roulette is about luck and there is a house edge to make sure the house will win more likely than to lose. The more you play, the larger the effect of house edge will be.
Secondly, even if there is a winning method, you should use it on dice sites which have lower house edge.

So, there is any wining method for dice ??? I have no idea about dice game actually. I've played several times Roulette, Blackjack, Poker & Slots in the non btc gambling sites.

No. Both roulette and dice are about luck only, and they work pretty much the same way.
In roulette there are 37 (single zero) or 38 (double zero) possible outcome and you can choose to bet on any one of them, while in dice the possible outcome are from 0.00 to 99.99 and you can choose to bet on "<1.00" or ">95.51" or anything like that.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: arallmuus on June 29, 2015, 07:19:48 AM
So, there is any wining method for dice ??? I have no idea about dice game actually. I've played several times Roulette, Blackjack, Poker & Slots in the non btc gambling sites.

Dice, roulette, blackjack and slots is much of a luck-based game which means that everything will be based on your luck. There isnt any winning method as because if there is anything sort like that then there will be no one to operate a gambling sites anymore ( it will be a charity instead of gambling site ) .
You can have a strategy from A-Z but that doesnt mean that it will always work and you will keep on getting profit with it. Best method of winning is to become part of the bankroll and have the edge for yourself .

Poker ( I assume you mean peer-2-peer poker ) is not only luck based but it is skill based as well so you could turn the tide for this game if you know how to do it properly as the house is taking neutral stand for this game by only getting profit through rake

P.S : if you actually meant it is a video poker than it is a luck-based game as well


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: pureelite on June 30, 2015, 02:22:46 PM
I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?

I honestly believe that electronic roulette would not be able to win, and he gives a certain percentage of the invested money, the rest is taken for himself. I think you should try to live roulette. Play output numbers of all series. For example,
On one half of play 18,22,9,31,14,20,1,33,16
In the second half of play 13,27,6,34,17,25,2
So skipping all the numbers in the center of the series, and the play ends only.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: tsoPANos on June 30, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
That has been discussed so much here on bitcointalk.
Martingale will not help you in any way.
The best way to be a winner is to NOT gamble.
It just doesn't work. there is a house edge there, wich wins steals you.
It know how you fell I lost more btc withmartingale.
The only thing you cando is to stop, accept your defeat and never gamble more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: [HELP] what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
Post by: subSTRATA on June 30, 2015, 04:28:46 PM
Roulette is imo one of the worst games as far as winning money, however for me it is also one of the most fun games.  I don't like playing it online, but if yo play it in person it is exciting to see everyone stack up their best, and then wait in anticipation as the ball slowly stops rolling.  But the odds are much better to make money with blackjack and poker (if you know how to play), and even dice sites.

its that buildup of suspense as you watch that makes it so addicting; same principle with that pachinko game that came out recently; the suspense of watching the ball drop to a multiplier has to be one of the more fun experiences I have had with gambling. I've also won around 0.5 BTC from that site so that help too.