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June 27, 2015, 10:45:23 AM
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Winning method roulette you say?

No legit legal way of beating the devils game, if you have connections in live casino's and they want to risk spinning for you that would be one method but the chances are almost 0 they would do that for you.

BTC roulette unless you hack the site there is no winning method, stop looking for things that do not exsist the next thing you will buy a "winning roulette strategy" from an honest soul who just wants you to win Smiley


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June 27, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
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after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  Grin Cheesy Smiley

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after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  Grin Cheesy Smiley

what did you expect? all there is to roulette is randomness; theres no strategy to that and there can't be. I thought this question was ridiculous to be honest.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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June 27, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
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Martingale or fibonacci methods are good only if you have a budget of like 3000 btc and you start with like 0.01 bets.
With my method at least you get some profitin short time, don't expect my method to work for 3 hours straight

The only way to make in good use of those methods are probably blackjack, on live dealers.

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June 27, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
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after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulettein gambling. Thanks to all  Grin Cheesy Smiley

Corrected that part for you, not only roulette but it is for every luck based game

Martingale or fibonacci methods are good only if you have a budget of like 3000 btc and you start with like 0.01 bets.

JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools

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June 27, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
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JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools

Well, I was speficing with an example.. let's take this example: Doges, on the site I usually use, min bet is 1 doge, max bet is 1500000 and internal bet is max: 250000 so, in that case, you can test the methods "safely" still it doesn't worth so much.

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June 27, 2015, 11:49:54 AM
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JUst so you are aware that this only works if a site has no restriction to the max win per round. Most sites has 20 BTC restriction for the max win which means that martingale with 0.01 BTC base bet will only get you 11x loss streak before you hit the max win allowed and that would be 12x loss streak with a 40 BTC max win restriction

Even if you are playing at PRCdice which has 270~ max win that would be 15x loss streak before you hit the max win amount and you should already aware that it is pretty normal to have more than 20x loss streak in martingale so I could say that this wont work even if you have 3000 BTC or so

For references on how to calculates it http://dicesites.com/tools

Well, I was speficing with an example.. let's take this example: Doges, on the site I usually use, min bet is 1 doge, max bet is 1500000 and internal bet is max: 250000 so, in that case, you can test the methods "safely" still it doesn't worth so much.

Each time you win there is an increase of 1 doge to your bankroll and each time you lose , you doubled up your lost amount which eventually "may" hit the max bet if you are unlucky. I wouldnt say that this is safe but the chance to hit the max bet is pretty low but then judging from the gained amount each time you win, I'd say it is not worth to try

Worst is that when someone trying to martingale at roulette which has around 2.x ~ house edge for a single zero roulette and 5.x ~ house edge for a double zero roulette. Although the probability for that small "bet" to hit the max bet is close to zero that doesnt mean that it wont happen and with the high house edge in roulette it will be much easier to happen

So in conclusion : not worth to use especially if it is roulette

Nothing is much better than owning a gambling sites or be a part of of their bankroll if someone is asking for a winning strategy in gambling

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June 27, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
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every bet on a roulette table (except the "first five" 0,00,1,2,3) is equally stupid (that bet is worse).

There is no strategy to win, you need to be lucky and guess the right number.
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June 27, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
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Well personally I don't even play roulette, way less house edge at dice and even if you want to play roulette , playing at an actual casino rather than an online one would be better . And you get to try many strats at many payouts. Well I could keep going at the advantages of dice.
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June 27, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
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after reading all replies in this discussion , now, I realized that there is actually no wining trick for roulette. Thanks to all  Grin Cheesy Smiley

Nope because generally casinos dont want to pay someone to sit on their butts.  If it was possible for people to beat games in simply ways then the whole economy would crash.  There are things you can gain edge over like counting cards in black jack for example. 

If you are just playing for fun i suggest dice since it has the lowest house edge of all but just play for fun only.
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June 27, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
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playing at an actual casino rather than an online one would be better .

How is that playing an actual / live roulette would be better? It is not better but actually that you will feel much more suspense if you are playing a live one. Some risk of playing live roullete is that most roulette operator are trained to land the ball in a specific area which means that your chance to lose is actually higher than an online provably fair roulette ( only if the site is totally fair ).
Another risk would be that some roulette wheels could be biased, this is actually a good thing for gamblers if they could identified this but if they cant then this is a sure way to lose more often

In most licensed land casino there will be montly inspection for roulette wheels to prevent players from taking an advantages of a biased wheels however some gamblers actually see through this and took the advantage of the biased wheel

If you are just playing for fun i suggest dice since it has the lowest house edge of all but just play for fun only.

Wrong, the lowest fix house edge game is BlackJack ( this depends on the house rules but mostly it is always below 1 % ). Lowest variable house edge game is Bustabit

For references on BlacJack's house edge , use this http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

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June 27, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
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Just expected up to 25 - 30 red strikes with martingale, from here just calculate your BTC starting balance  Wink
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June 27, 2015, 01:10:02 PM
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the best youll get from roulette is managing your losses as placing chips on both colours and splitting up in right amounts can mean that you minimize losses if you happen to incur many, with roulette so far im lucky and the colours are always predicatable only seen a 0 once in my entire life Cheesy

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June 27, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
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placing chips on both colours and splitting up in right amounts can mean that you minimize losses

Heard of this before and it is not really minimizing your loss and it is just some kind of different form of "martingale". Basically by doing this you are going to put 1 chip on red and 2 chips on black. This depends on what your choice is so if you choose red to win than put 2 chips on red and 1 chip on black

First sequence :
If black is hit then you get 4 chips back but net profit is 1 chip because you lost 1 chip on red .

If red is hit then you get 1 chip which means that you are still losing 1 chip because you wagered 2 chips on black.

Second sequence and so on :
You will then need to double up your bet to cover up what you lost so this time it will be 2 chips on red and 4 chips on black and so on . If black is hit then you get 4 chips and net profit will be 1 chip because you wagered 2 on red and lost 1 from the previous roll but if red is hit then you get 2 chips but your loss keep on doubling up this time you are -3 chips

See the bolded part? No difference with martingale-in with 1 chip I guess  Smiley . This is some kind of martingale for roulette I'd say

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June 27, 2015, 08:48:54 PM
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What i like to do is to make a bunch of minimum wagers on a 50% chance, red-black,even-odd or high-low, and then wait
for 4 or 5 consecutive losses, then i place my first real wager, and double it up from there.

In the end, it's all about luck, but some might argue that this is a bit better than straight up entering with first bet, due to statistics.

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June 28, 2015, 02:29:03 AM
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It all comes down to luck but I have been really lucky with roulette in the past (don't have the time to play now) but first thing you should do is only play at sites which are provably fair. Second thing is don't play the colors (Red,Black), if you choose a certain numbers and try martingaling on them, you'd still have a better chance of winning but that been said nothing is for certain, so don't go in over your head, play with only amount of money you can afford to lose. When I play I use different personal strategies and so far they have worked in my favor but they take a bit of time and are not based on martingale.

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June 28, 2015, 03:51:20 AM
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I'm recently playing bitcoin roulette. I'm currently using martingale method, but, it seems to be very risky to me, because 6-7 consecutive losses in total is huge

0.001 BTC loss
0.002 BTC loss
0.004 BTC loss
0.008 BTC loss
0.016 BTC loss
0.032 BTC loss
0.064 BTC loss

Total = 0.127 BTC loss in 7 rounds

So, what's the best wining method of Roulette ?
The best way of winning is simply getting lucky. I would recommend playing for fun and listening to your guts. Though the 3.6% house edge on Roulette is pretty huge compared to industry standard in the bitcoin gambling world, so if you want a better chance of winning you should move to a game with less house edge than that.

would you mind please to explain the 3.6% roulette house edge? thanks


Depends what roulette wheel you are using euro or USA style but lets say it has a single zero:

You have 36 numbers and a 0, you get 35-1 paid out on any number but the true odds of hitting any single number are 36-1. 

You get 2-1 payout on a red or black but the 0 = green.   The zero is basically the house edge.



that is correct but single zero roulette has 2.7% house edge and house edge is less according to single chance handling in case zero shows up. will the bet be caged or lose half immediately. therefore I wanted to know where the 3.6% are coming from?



The 3.6% number is just wrong.
Just as WhatTheGox mentioned, you have a 1 in 37 chance to get 36x of your wagered back, and so the EV is 36/37 = 97.3% and the house edge is 1-36/37 = 2.7%.

With the presence of "La Partage" or "En prison" rule, the house edge will be halved and become 1.35%.

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June 28, 2015, 05:29:57 AM
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Obviously being negative Expected value, there isn't any any method to win. But to not lose your bankroll, I like playing on the 2/3 chance by betting on 2 rows out of 3. And I sort of martingale from there. You could also try around 90% by betting on all numbers except for 0 , and 3 other numbers. But in the end its only upto your luck and nothing can guarantee winning.
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June 28, 2015, 08:41:07 AM
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if you choose a certain numbers and try martingaling on them, you'd still have a better chance of winning

A numbers? If you actually meant to select 1 number and martingale them all up then it is a complete disaster as the probability to win is low enough especially if you are playing it in roulette

Obviously being negative Expected value, there isn't any any method to win.

Having a negative EV isnt always a guarantee that you will "always" lose and having positive EV isnt a guarantee that you will "always" win ( in the long run then it is almost always ). You cant turn your negative EV into positive EV unless you become part of the house by investing on their bankroll however there is a method on turning that negative EV closer to zero "if you know how to do it properly" . Im merely pointing it to bustabit for example because it is pretty easy to turn the tide there with the bonus for each rounds

But to not lose your bankroll, I like playing on the 2/3 chance by betting on 2 rows out of 3. And I sort of martingale from there.

Betting 2 out of 3 colums or dozens and martingale them if you lose strategy is pretty much the same as betting on either red and black and martingale them all out with slightly higher chance to win




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June 28, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
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For speak in casino staff, i play in the past to one live roulette to italian tv live, and the camera is only to the legs of woman croupier, and see very bad a roulette, nodoby understand if win or not, later ball stop, the camera see the roulette
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