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Title: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 05, 2015, 06:19:04 AM
Recently I have been hearing a lot of russian threat to the west. Obama said ISIS and Russia are two most evils in this world right now. What about you? What do you think?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: jayce on July 05, 2015, 07:30:04 AM
I think that US is a true threat to this world since US always involve their selves in many world problems, like invasion on Afghanistan - Iraq, civil war in Vietnam and Korea, ISIS, etc or maybe that problems were made by US itself. I don't think Russia is a threat, and imo Putin is one of the great leaders in the world.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 05, 2015, 07:49:32 AM
I think that US is a true threat to this world since US always involve their selves in many world problems, like invasion on Afghanistan - Iraq, civil war in Vietnam and Korea, ISIS, etc or maybe that problems were made by US itself. I don't think Russia is a threat, and imo Putin is one of the great leaders in the world.

Don't forget to vote for this.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 05, 2015, 08:07:18 AM
Russia has invaded zero countries in the last 70 years. On the other hand, the Americans have invaded more than 70 sovereign countries during the same time period. So it is clear who is a bigger threat to the world peace. That said, I have to admit that the United States had become a little bit Pacifist ever since Obama took over as the POTUS. Unfortunately, that will change in 2016, when the Pinocchibitch becomes the new POTUS.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: jayce on July 05, 2015, 08:22:47 AM
I think that US is a true threat to this world since US always involve their selves in many world problems, like invasion on Afghanistan - Iraq, civil war in Vietnam and Korea, ISIS, etc or maybe that problems were made by US itself. I don't think Russia is a threat, and imo Putin is one of the great leaders in the world.

Don't forget to vote for this.

Previously I thought to just vote 'no', but since you have 'US is a threat' choice, then I prefer it.


Unfortunately, that will change in 2016, when the Pinocchibitch becomes the new POTUS.

Yeah I think no good candidate for become a next POTUS. The middle east countries must prepare to get invaded by US after US people choose new president.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 05, 2015, 08:49:03 AM
You forgot Ukraine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso), but Putin doesn't admit that. It wouldn't be a democratic annexation if he admitted it....

A civil war is ongoing in Ukraine, where Eastern Ukrainians are kicking the asses of the neo-Nazis from Western Ukraine. Russia is not officially involved in any of this. That said, Some 80% of the Ukrainian population speaks Russian as their first language, and have close family ties to Russia. What sort of family ties the Americans had with the Libyans, Iraqis, Afghans.etc?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 05, 2015, 09:29:24 AM
It's not a civil war. Russian soldiers occupied Ukraine.

As far as I know, there are no active duty Russian soldiers in Ukraine right now. Stop watching propaganda channels such as MSNBC, BBC and the CNN.

There's enough evidence – do you think EU/US/Australia/Canada are introduced trade sanctions just for fun?

Sanctions should have been imposed on the EU/US/Australia/Canada for overthrowing a democratically elected government and replacing it with one composed of the Neo-Nazis.

The U.S. had several wars without the support of the international community

What do you mean by the international community? You mean NATO allies such as Canada and the United Kingdom? As far as I know, none of the American invasions were sanctioned by the United Nations, or any other international body.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: freemind1 on July 05, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
I think the results of the poll speak for themselves and not to add any more.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: kneim on July 05, 2015, 09:38:46 AM
@chmod755

How do you think about 9/11?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: chmod755 on July 05, 2015, 09:40:42 AM
How do you think about 9/11?

I think it was terrible, but that's not the topic of this thread.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Balthazar on July 05, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/09/20140901_isolated.jpg


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 05, 2015, 09:42:18 AM
I didn't say right now. 'Propaganda' against war is so bad huh? One of us is brainwashed and it's not me.

Yup... you are not even realizing that you have been brainwashed by the NATO propaganda.  ;D

I guess you're only accepting Interfax / RT news / Moscow Times as a credible source.

Most of my information comes from the social media.

Approved by your great leader Putin who doesn't allow opposition or homosexuals

I live in South Asia, and Putin is not my president. And regarding the treatment of sodomites in Russia, at least the Russians treat them better than your allies, the Right Sector.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: kneim on July 05, 2015, 09:44:14 AM
How do you think about 9/11?

I think it was terrible, but that's not the topic of this thread.

Thank you for this "answer", I do not need more information about you.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 05, 2015, 09:52:58 AM
A civil war is ongoing in Ukraine, where Eastern Ukrainians are kicking the asses of the neo-Nazis from Western Ukraine. Russia is not officially involved in any of this.

It's not a civil war. Russian soldiers occupied Ukraine. There's enough evidence – do you think EU/US/Australia/Canada are introduced trade sanctions just for fun?

The U.S. had several wars without the support of the international community, but that doesn't justify the invasion of Crimnea. Family ties are not an excuse either. If Germany attacks Austria the same could be said.

I agree with you on the fact, that crimes of others dont justify criminal acts of yourself. I am also aware, that Russia started meddling in ukrainian affairs after U.S. backed putsch occured in Kiev last year.

Thing is, you have no moral high ground here. Since the end of Cold war US and its allies were destabilizing in some cases destroying entire countries, that western elites considered "evil" (for the time being). Remember, when Al-Qaida was still considered "evil" and not an ally against ISIS? Remember the same about "Kosovo liberation army"? I do. Westerners nowadays have attention span, that Orwell would be proud of.

Countries such as China, Iran and Russia really have no choice but play dirty too. They were on the shorter end of the stick so far and there really was no possibility for them to be accepted as partners and not vassals into New World Order... so they do the next most logical thing - attempt to create NWO of their own.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 05, 2015, 09:54:15 AM
A civil war is ongoing in Ukraine, where Eastern Ukrainians are kicking the asses of the neo-Nazis from Western Ukraine. Russia is not officially involved in any of this.

It's not a civil war. Russian soldiers occupied Ukraine. There's enough evidence – do you think EU/US/Australia/Canada are introduced trade sanctions just for fun?

The U.S. had several wars without the support of the international community, but that doesn't justify the invasion of Crimnea. Family ties are not an excuse either. If Germany attacks Austria the same could be said.

You are wrong. This is civil war going on in Ukraine. And there is no proofs for russian forces in ukraine. There is also an american soldiers in Ukraine. Does this means that NATO moved its forces in Ukraine?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Amph on July 05, 2015, 10:04:47 AM
no, crazy religions are the real threat , they are followed by crazy fanatics and lunatic, who commits suicide for stupid reason in the name of something that even exist

people that can be so easily subjugated should not exist , i think that, they are part , of the discard of the evolution


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: countryfree on July 05, 2015, 11:15:54 AM
Russia has invaded Afghanistan which triggered the rise of muslim fighters all over the planet. I'd say this was the most important event in the end of last century. The world remembers Bin Laden as the enemy of the West, but he started his career fighting Russia. Then I have friends in Kiev and Estonia, and I trust them. To all of them, Russia is a huge menace.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 05, 2015, 12:06:08 PM
Russia has invaded Afghanistan which triggered the rise of muslim fighters all over the planet.

You seems to be suffering from short term memory loss. It was not the Russian intervention in Afghanistan which triggered the rise of Muslim fighters all over the planet. Actually, it was the short-sighted American support to the fanatical Islamists in Afghanistan, which triggered it. There were both secular and Islamist groups fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan. With the American support, the fanatics were able to wipe-out the secular groups.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: ridery99 on July 05, 2015, 12:55:02 PM
USA is a declining sodomy-economy, Russia and China will soon take over and that's a good thing.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: countryfree on July 05, 2015, 06:37:22 PM
Russia has invaded Afghanistan which triggered the rise of muslim fighters all over the planet.

You seems to be suffering from short term memory loss. It was not the Russian intervention in Afghanistan which triggered the rise of Muslim fighters all over the planet. Actually, it was the short-sighted American support to the fanatical Islamists in Afghanistan, which triggered it. There were both secular and Islamist groups fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan. With the American support, the fanatics were able to wipe-out the secular groups.

??? Osama Bin Laden started his career fighting Russians. With his own money. Many Arabs followed, volunteers, with American support coming way after that. Check history books.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 06, 2015, 03:21:19 AM
??? Osama Bin Laden started his career fighting Russians. With his own money. Many Arabs followed, volunteers, with American support coming way after that. Check history books.

What an idiot.

So who is to blame here? Should we blame the Russians for fighting the Mujaheddin? Or should we blame the Americans for providing arms and ammunition to people such as Osama bin Laden? And BTW, without the American support, the Mujaheddin would have been toast. Even with the CIA support, they could not defeat the Russians.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 06, 2015, 08:37:12 AM
Russia has invaded zero countries in the last 70 years. On the other hand, the Americans have invaded more than 70 sovereign countries during the same time period. So it is clear who is a bigger threat to the world peace. That said, I have to admit that the United States had become a little bit Pacifist ever since Obama took over as the POTUS. Unfortunately, that will change in 2016, when the Pinocchibitch becomes the new POTUS.

You are correct. America is a way more agressive country than russia or any other country on this planet. But I must admit Putin's actions is also agressive. By the way, may I ask you? Are you a russian speaker? I mean, do you know russian language?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: BillyBones on July 06, 2015, 08:51:10 AM
On contrary, The United States of America is the massive hypocritically dangerous threat to the entire world and whole human community. The founders of the ISIS is the most evil in this world at present and future, that founders are none other than Saudi Arabia and the United States of America.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 06, 2015, 08:53:17 AM
By the way. For those of you who voted for "yes - russia is a threat to this world". Would you please explain why do you think so. Why do you think Russia is an evil?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: RappelzReborn on July 06, 2015, 08:55:24 AM
Best poll ever with a lot of options for me it's USA is a threat to this world & Obama is an idiot and basically putin is more powerful then Obama . Usa is the only threat looking at what they are doing , they even spy on their allies such Germany & France , each time we hear about new shit NSA does and the leaked documents of Snowden is just another proove of how USA is dangerous .


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Daniel91 on July 06, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
No large country in the world today is ideal and absolutely on the side of good, so there is no black and white, only different shades of gray.
For example, During the war in Iraq, the Americans were responsible for the political collapse of the state and the killing of civilians.
China pursues a minority in their own country.
Russia has made serious crimes in Chechnya and is now fighting against the legal government in Ukraine.
Who is responsible for the tragic situation in Syria and Libya?
Of course, America and UK.
In the world today only economic and political interests exist, nothing else.
The struggle for democracy and ideals? Do not make me laugh?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 06, 2015, 11:45:01 AM
You are correct. America is a way more agressive country than russia or any other country on this planet. But I must admit Putin's actions is also agressive.

Putin might be aggressive, but it is prefectly understandable given the provocations being made by NATO.

By the way, may I ask you? Are you a russian speaker? I mean, do you know russian language?

Why this is important here? No. I am not a Russian speaker and I live in South Asia. I know a few words in Russian, and I can read the Cyrillic alphabet with some difficulty.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Balthazar on July 06, 2015, 12:02:03 PM
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/russia_wants_war_look_how_closely_they_put_country_to_our_military_bases.jpg


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Snail2 on July 06, 2015, 12:55:19 PM
Sad thing, but at this moment the US is the biggest threat to the world. The ruling elite over there are seems to be out of its mind or seceded from the everyday reality.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 06, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
Sad thing, but at this moment the US is the biggest threat to the world. The ruling elite over there are seems to be out of its mind or seceded from the everyday reality.

The United States has remained as the no.1 obstacle for the world peace, ever since they nuked Nagasaki and Hisorshima in 1945 killing close to 300,000 people. The United States represent a real threat to the very existence of mankind, and the situation is unlikely to change, at least for the next 100 years.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: jayce on July 06, 2015, 01:35:21 PM
[quote author=RappelzReborn link=topic=1110026.msg11802179#msg11802179 date=1436172924]
Best poll ever with a lot of options for me it's USA is a threat to this world & Obama is an idiot and basically putin is more powerful then Obama . Usa is the only threat looking at what they are doing , they even spy on their allies such Germany & France , each time we hear about new shit NSA does and the leaked documents of Snowden is just another proove of how USA is dangerous.
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Well I think its not Obama's faults alone, it always happen no matter who the president is. I think NSA is spying on him also and everyone in US. Fortunately Snowden has leaked the information about what NSA has done, so we can aware about it.



If you said Obama is an idiot, what about him?  ;D

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/18/blob9bcc3ff217ccf2de.jpeg





Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on July 07, 2015, 09:36:45 AM
=snip=
If you said Obama is an idiot, what about him?  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/8VDrKK9.jpg

Maybe he's in distress and calling for help!  ;D

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§ 176. Respect for flag: No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 07, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
if by world you mean the Earth as a whole then no. russia is not a threat to this world, they're just a threat to people's freedom.
I think we are the real threat, the people, and not any governments


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 07, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
Best poll ever with a lot of options for me it's USA is a threat to this world & Obama is an idiot and basically putin is more powerful then Obama . Usa is the only threat looking at what they are doing , they even spy on their allies such Germany & France , each time we hear about new shit NSA does and the leaked documents of Snowden is just another proove of how USA is dangerous.

Well I think its not Obama's faults alone, it always happen no matter who the president is. I think NSA is spying on him also and everyone in US. Fortunately Snowden has leaked the information about what NSA has done, so we can aware about it.



If you said Obama is an idiot, what about him?  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/8VDrKK9.jpg


He is not a president anymore, so it's doesn't matter. But yes, Bush was a bigger idiot than Obama while he was a president. In american system president can be a complete idiot. It's not changing anything. Bankers and corporations rule the game.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: ifightformerkel on July 07, 2015, 12:02:49 PM
I think russia is a thread to the world, because of the war games in ukraine.

They infiltrate the ukraine with russian soldiers, but cover or remove badge and say there are no russian soldiers.
But the hunderts of funerals of young russian soldiers in russia speaks another language.

It is a sad thing what putin is doing there.
But he will get his bill. (with sanctions and more)


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Blawpaw on July 07, 2015, 12:59:37 PM
The real threat is the States. The United States drive a War Economy, and are the main cause for scattered wars around the Globe.
They promote war to sell their war machinery and feed on the blood of the innocent.
The USA is a Terrorist country; The US Government is run by secret societies who put puppets in front to fool the citizens.
"Land of the Free" yeah right.... Land of a bunch of cold-blooded killers... Iraque would be in Peace if they never had set feet on their floor...
Thankfully, the vietcongs kicked their asses...

USA = STAIN


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: jayce on July 07, 2015, 01:32:17 PM
I think russia is a thread to the world, because of the war games in ukraine.

They infiltrate the ukraine with russian soldiers, but cover or remove badge and say there are no russian soldiers.
But the hunderts of funerals of young russian soldiers in russia speaks another language.

It is a sad thing what putin is doing there.
But he will get his bill. (with sanctions and more)

The borders issue is very common between the two neighboring countries, so we can't immediately say they are a threat to this world. And what do you think about US? Afghanistan and Iraq are not US neighbors, and UN didn't anything to prevent the US invasion. So, who is the threat then?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Mehek on July 07, 2015, 05:39:05 PM
no, crazy religions are the real threat , they are followed by crazy fanatics and lunatic, who commits suicide for stupid reason in the name of something that even exist

people that can be so easily subjugated should not exist , i think that, they are part , of the discard of the evolution

Religions which teach people to take lives rather than help others is no religion, and people are fooled on the name of religion to kill others or to kill themselves and call it a sacrifice. It is no religion, it is no temple, it is a fucking slaughterhouse.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 08, 2015, 05:18:09 AM
The real threat is the States. The United States drive a War Economy, and are the main cause for scattered wars around the Globe.

Yes. That is the real reason why they create all those wars. So that the American corporations can make more and more profit.

The USA is a Terrorist country; The US Government is run by secret societies who put puppets in front to fool the citizens.

The US is a terrorist country, and at the same time a sponsor of terrorism all around the world.

"Land of the Free" yeah right.... Land of a bunch of cold-blooded killers... Iraq would be in Peace if they never had set feet on their floor...

1 million dead so far in Iraq, and 5 million driven from their homes. And remember that Iraq was a peaceful country before the American invasion.

Thankfully, the vietcongs kicked their asses...

Viet Cong set the example. More of them will follow.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 08, 2015, 04:08:38 PM
My answers would be obvious from my previous postings.

One thing worth commenting. Obama is definitely NOT an idiot. He's a puppet without his own say in the matters of running of the USA Inc. I pity him...


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Balthazar on July 09, 2015, 09:34:02 AM
russia is not a threat to this world, they're just a threat to people's freedom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ09YqtP9ZY

Sorry, but your message seems almost equally stupid.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: Ingatqhvq on July 09, 2015, 12:01:19 PM
Sure, Russia is a threat to this world.
Their idiot president invade Ukraine may lead another world war.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 09, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Sure, Russia is a threat to this world.
Their idiot president invade Ukraine may lead another world war.

What about murrica then? Did you count how many coutryies america has invaded for the last 30 years? And there is no proof for russian forces in ukraine. Who is idiot now?


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: GregH37 on July 10, 2015, 06:40:30 AM


US is a threat to this world because they are directly or indirectly participating in war. US is also more keen to interfere in the world's matters than Russia so i think US is the real threat.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: PenguinFire on July 10, 2015, 06:44:58 AM
Sure, Russia is a threat to this world.
Their idiot president invade Ukraine may lead another world war.

What about murrica then? Did you count how many coutryies america has invaded for the last 30 years? And there is no proof for russian forces in ukraine. Who is idiot now?

It is sort of a standard and believed that both of those countries how monitored themselves enough to both be braking international law.  Haha


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: cryptocoiner on July 10, 2015, 06:57:18 AM
Sure, Russia is a threat to this world.
Their idiot president invade Ukraine may lead another world war.

What about murrica then? Did you count how many coutryies america has invaded for the last 30 years? And there is no proof for russian forces in ukraine. Who is idiot now?

It is sort of a standard and believed that both of those countries how monitored themselves enough to both be braking international law.  Haha

I don't remember america was annexin lands or something. And what about breaking international law? What international law america did broke? Russia yes for sure. But still it's not a threat to this world. Putin did what he had to do. But America is a threat. they makein everything to start another big war.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: freedomno1 on July 10, 2015, 08:40:29 AM
Russia has invaded zero countries in the last 70 years. On the other hand, the Americans have invaded more than 70 sovereign countries during the same time period. So it is clear who is a bigger threat to the world peace. That said, I have to admit that the United States had become a little bit Pacifist ever since Obama took over as the POTUS. Unfortunately, that will change in 2016, when the Pinocchibitch becomes the new POTUS.

Indeed the fact is that the USA is a greater threat to the world than Russia is at present.
(Geh PinnocchiBitch) I know that the election is pretty much determined in 2016 it still makes me shudder, technically Bush Obama and likely Clinton would be accused of war crimes if the world was being fair but unfortunately it isn't.


Title: Re: Russia is a threat to this world?
Post by: CoinFoxs on July 10, 2015, 10:52:57 AM

I think USA is real threat to this world. US is actively participating in the world's politics and the biggest treat to the world's peace.