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Hello, need 0.008 loan to purchase some stock images for some ongoing design projects I have. Repayment will be made on 16th July. I can give my account as collateral. My address is 1DJUjoYkSwu6c5D8zMBED6LHBrQChCepjG.

Thank you.

How much interest do you offer? I can give you this loan if you can provide signed message from atleast 1month old address

I can offer 25% interest for this amount. You can send them to address I've posted here, don't have any older. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.1030;imode

I have send you  BTC 0.01 lending monies!

I didn't receive anything from you @ManyProof and I want to take the loan from Hexcoin, not you.

he did. don't lie
https://blockchain.info/tx/473f98c9ff5ef30cf56a527ecacb015fef8543473f87f7d91427daed7cdc3c5d

that address sent 0.02 loan to Digital_Lord also.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122260.0

U LIAR U SCAMMER!!!!!!!!! I PUT OF 0.01 btc in your!!

Why did you send him that btc without escrow holding the account?

Maybe this is to teach you a cheap lesson so that is good if nothing else.

Always use escrow and get a signed message from the person in question from an old address posted from the account. To many people will scam for even the smallest of amounts.

Good luck getting your returned funds.

u seem friend of scammer fo rsure

He actually give you some advice for ur future dude,
No chance he's the owner of the OP account

cheers, It's only 0.01 btc thou  :D

Did you not read all the warning posted at the top of this forum? You should have got the account credentials escrowed before you made the transaction.

not listen to freinds of scammer GO AWAY

No dude, we're not "friends" of the OP. You can't trust anyone on this forum. It's like the streets of Harlem.

there is something wrong to this person

I think you are the one who "wrong" here, why?
OP is Jr. member and you accept his offer, you actually give him extra 0.002 btc for nothing, you didn't use an escrow service, you didn't even confirm to the OP first....
Let's hope OP back and give your loan back with the interest..

I think so, Just let your money taken by him, and besides it's just a bit just think it as some alms or gift on.Howefer you also wrong send money without her know first

no, theres something wrong with you actually. people on here are giving you advice and telling you what you did wrong, yet youre assuming youre the victim and everyone here is out to get you. you need to realize you scammed yourself and sent him 0.01 BTC with no mutual agreement from op whatsoever. use your brain next time.

i have no opinion of you

Unless there was a loan agreement via PM with the OP that we don't know about i agree with everyone else on the forum, you were an idiot sending btc before any loan was agreeded apon.

And no im not friends with the OP but i know you will think that anyway.
OP should keep the coins for having to deal wih you at all.

loan agreements should never be done through pm, they should always be kept as public as possible. the more private it is the harder it is to prove the borrower ended up scamming.

I think it's a bit advice for us especially for you before making deals with some of the people here to avoid some scammer

Your right but a lot of people here do agree to loans via PM.
Just thought the OP may not be saying something but if there was PM's then i guess ManyProofs would have released them to us.

Haha. This guy is a joke. Been laughing like 30 minutes now, going back and reading his posts again and again. :) He probably doesn't know English and uses translator, that's why his answers are kinda out of topic. :D

when people agree to a loan through pm, loaners who know what theyre doing will not send funds until the details of the loan are disclosed to the public in either the loaner's thread or in a new thread. you can go through the pages in this section and see that people post this information when a loan is given out. in this case, even if manyproofs and op agreed to some conditions, there was no agreement on loan terms (duration, interest rate, repayment address, etc) nor was there confirmation from op that manyproofs would be giving him the loan. manyproof said "here i give u monies," not even a txid.

i also see form the loan he gave digital_lord he did the exact same thing; "here i give u monies" (not even exaggerating thats almost word for word.)
no naive.

surely there is NO exchange of PM's between them because OP posted that he is waiting for me but sadly i fell asleep before i give the loan to him, its kinda my mistake that this scammed happened

granted.
i will lend you .01 btc, payback .011 btc within 7 days.
let's see if you are legit.
after the loan, you go two way: lose trust or better trust.
reply if granted. plus i saw your trust telling that you lying about not getting loan while you got it.

Are you kidding? OP denies a loan he received from ManyProofs after he even spent it (https://blockchain.info/address/1DJUjoYkSwu6c5D8zMBED6LHBrQChCepjG). You can't send any funds to him until this issue is solved.
On a side note, why do ManyProofs and you offer 0.01 if OP asked only 0.008?

.-. kk

so youre taking out a loan here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1122175.0
but you suddenly have money to loan out? you havent even paid back your loan to KWH yet, who so nicely gave you a 0.03 loan with no collateral.

lolol .03 loan paid back.
i still have bitcoins in fact.

Yes, I agree with the terms.

About the whole MoneyPot case, I didn't settle an agreement with him and neither he specified on which of my addresses he sent it. Yes, I received them but saw where he sent them exactly after logging off my PC. I will refund that loan with 0% interest because we didn't agree on any loan, on night of 16th July

And lottery248, I am interested in taking your loan.

if you are lying, you know you need to face what consequences will be.
https://blockchain.info/tx/5338e18c1e7c0d6bc61db41f2e411cb66aa383173bf0e7c5d86f37865c12a0b6 paid, everyone here should know that i have lent.

except there are no consequences, what does he get if he defaults? more red trust on his account jr member account which is already worth nothing?

dude fine. lol, i guess that he just refunded the money.
plus i can afford it, i can sure that he is satisfied.

you should repay to
18gbWnuj3aVXokBb4jr6s7uP9yaSuFJaij

you blocked me from sending a PM.

where is my REFOUND !!

you did not put your payback address.

refound me now !!!!  1BYnjSWG4sPbRhqMVAkTE2QxkHoJBDxZ2s

Ha, your lucky the OP has even offered to refund your btc.
I wouldn't give you a single satoshi after the way you acted by sending btc with no agreement, i would consider it a donation.

i guess he did a wrong address.

u scum

im going to agree with ausbit; you quite literally said: "here i give you monies" (lol) and sent bitcoin to his address. no discussion of loan agreements, just you acting rashly. if op decides not to pay it back its entirely your fault as you gave away money. do you think banks or loan sharks just say "hey man heres some money go have fun now?" they get an agreement on repayment, interest rates, etc, none of which you bothered to even consider.

he DENY getting monies!! IT IS BLOCK CHAIN PROOFS ok

so shut down ok

nothing wrong from me

If I will have enough Bitcoin tomorrow besides paying back the loan from lottery248, I will also refund you. If not, you have to wait. Did I tell you to loan me?

If OP doesn't accept that TX as a loan then he must refund it immediately. There's no way it can be considered OK for him to keep it until the 16th, not to mention permanently. Obviously ManyProofs didn't mean to give it away regardless of how he wrote his message because of his lack of knowledge of English.
If I sent money by mistake to someone and he refused to refund it (minus any cost incurred by him) of course I'd consider him a scammer. This is a comparable case. I'd consider ManyProofs' actions as a mistake but of course it's not acceptable for OP to take advantage of that mistake.
The moment OP noticed that unexpected TX in his address he should have refunded immediately minus the TX fee if he didn't want to use it. Instead he spent it (getting a free gain of the coins) and now refuses to refund until the 16th as per the loan he requested (and didn't happen according to him). That's unacceptable. I hope he at least refund by then.

ManyProofs didn't even specify where he sent it to NEITHER made a agreement with me. I saw the money come into my wallet while I was on my phone and thought that Hexcoin loaned me as he agreed in his post here.

You published your address in the OP. Of course he sent there, where else could it be? And he posted saying he sent it, and you replied so of course you read that immediately. I keep everything I said in my previous post, I will consider you untrustworthy if you don't refund right away.

dud, if he do not have funds right now, he cannot refund right away.
he should grant refund as soon as he get funds to payback.

not saying that there shouldnt be a refund, in fact i do believe that he should get refunded, and hopefully learn from this mistake. but, i was just hoping to get the point across that in the case there was no refund, there would be no one for manyproofs to blame but himself.

i should clarify that when i agreed with ausbit's statement, i was referring to the first half that he was lucky to be offered a refund in the first place. but at this point, as the coins sent by manyproof has already been spent, it might be easier to just consider that as the loan taken and discuss terms instead seeing as how op has offered a refund.

If he doesn't have the coins it would mean he did need that loan. It wouldn't make sense not to accept it. He should be negotiating the terms instead. If he didn't want to negotiate then he shouldn't have spent the received coins in the first place.
It just doesn't make sense to accept a part of the loan (the part he keeps the money for a couple of days) and refuse other part (where he pays interests). And some people are even insinuating it would be OK for him to keep the coins for good!

ok then.
let's see if this guy successfully finishes his loan payback.

if he didn't get loaned once, why should we conclude that he is a scam for sure?
let him be, and let's see.

Unless OP also owns the address the btc was sent to after he received them, he doesn't have them, check his address:
https://blockchain.info/address/1DJUjoYkSwu6c5D8zMBED6LHBrQChCepjG

If i had coins sent to me by mistake then yes i would send them back if the righful owner contacted me.
A friend of mine once had something like 0.5btc appear in his account and did not know who sent it, next transaction was for 0.00001btc with a tx header explaining what happened, long story he returned the coins.

What manyproofs did was completely wrong and stupid, then he carries on and starts demanding his btc back straight away, that's why I say OP should just keep it if he feels that way, I imagine this mess has taken up a bit of the OP's time and why should he have to pay for someone else's stupidity.
At the end of day this is only a small amount of btc we are talking about and manyproofs should take it as a cheap lessoned learned.

Ok, let's get this straight:

1. I will first refund lottery248's loan since we agreed on the terms and then after if I have the necessary funds I will refund ManyProofs.

2. I posted an address in the first post then Hexcoin asked for an older address, so I replied with a link to an old one where I expected to receive the money, that's why I said he didn't even specify where he sent them

3. It's not my fault he proceeded and sent the coins right away, we had NO terms and I might have gotten a loan in the meantime, I simply didn't agree with him that he sends me the loan so it's not my fault

4. When I saw the coins arrive on my phone wallet, I thought it's Hexcoin who landed them to me so I proceeded to spend them since I had an agreement with him.

did you payback?

No. I will payback ManyProofs after paybacking you, that ONLY if I have the funds to do so.

He has said he will return the coins to ManyProofs after he has paid his actual loan back and if he has the funds, which i think is very fair and nice of him to do that.
As i said before this has probably taken up a bit of the OP's time and time ain't cheap especially when you have to deal with an idiot like MoneyProofs.  

That was posted yesterday.

u lamer!!! go away

Your too nice to me always ansering my post, thanks  :)
Anyway no, i think i will hang around and see how this plays out, i haven't seen a situation like this on the forum yet and it's interesting.
If you want to stop the just close the thread.

i am for executive loan master  u do not treat me lower than bridge! ok??

lamer go away

Ok i didn't insult or treat you low but i am sorry if you took it tha way.
Let's clear one thing in your post up though,
THIS WAS NOT A LOAN!
You are not the "loan master"

Your arrogance and language is unacceptable. I am not going to return your money as we had no agreement.

HJOW DARE U!! U HACKER U SCAMMER!
its MY MONIES

I walk into a bank to sign a credit card contract. You suddenly enter the bank, give me the money and walk away. After two days, you show up at my door telling me to pay your loan back.

Support the consequences of your non logical actions.

I got ya side side oiul.
You nicely offered to give his btc back then he got all arrogant and rude in the end taking up a lot of your time.
If it was a big amount i would say give it back but this is a good cheap lesson for MoneyProofs to learn.
Im sure he won't ever do it again.

see U are friends with SCAMMER!!! proofs positive

Please post this positive proof you have because i don't think i know oiul outside this thread.

i hate u so much

Lol, this thread really is keeping me entertained tonight.  :D

u be imprisoned with ur scammer friend i find suspecting

You are insane. Go check yourself.

GIVE MY MONIES!!!!!!

U SAID WALLET
I SEND WALLET

NO WRONG FROM ME

Yes i must be good friends with him, i couldn't find one thread outside this one where me and oiul have spoken.
Just look at where he spends his time on this forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515858;sa=statPanel
Then look at mine:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=390217;sa=statPanel

... This becomes funny. Dude, I don't even know who invited you here to give me a loan. Did you read the posts that were made when you sent the loan? I had an agreement with Hexcoin and suddenly you jump into here and loan me without even settling the terms.

u spoke for private!!!!!

u are taking share in his con!!

You should start a scam accusation here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
I've already left red trust to OP. The fact ausbit supports him not returning the coins at all seems very fishy too.

Just mind your words when doing so, try to be clear and respectful in the new thread, and make sure to use this format (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0).

asd

77 78 posts over less than $3?
This place......
 ::)

So he shall do. I keep my statement of not returning any money to this guy. And don't drag ausbit into this, the only thing that relates me to him is common sense, thing that ManyProofs lacks.

I have no problems with him starting a scam accusation thread and if he thinks he was clearly scamed then he should do so.
I do not know oiul and have never spoken with him via PM or outside this thread, i checked my post history.
I only support him because i do not agree with what manyproofs did or the way he has acted ever since.

i think ausbit to be a scammer also

That's a big step so if your going to call me out as a scammer then post proof of me scamming someone, anyone.

u already proven as scammer supporter

I don't believe oiul to be a scammer, what he is doing is a little gray maybe but not scamming.
I still support him i admit that no problems.

enough scammer

Can't you work out by now that this only keeps going because you keep answering me, lol.
Plus i told you before only call someone a scammer if you can provide proof, if you think im a scammer provide the proof!

u support sammer
u become scammer

proofs positive

Ah sorry i missed that "positive proof"   ::)
I guess now with all that proof you have of me being a scammer you should open a scam accusation thread about this.

this thread is getting funny  ;D OP is trying to scam people with 0.008
someone sent 0.01 with no info about the deal , and another one came and gave a loan after all these complaints
OP you are in signature campaign , you could make some satoshis without even trying here to borrow micros
was it necessary to make a negative trust  ???

he scame me of 0.01

he is not of trust!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should be reliable.
i would rather you to pay him(manyproofs) back first than pay to me first.

He is scamming all you.

Dude was supposed to send me images and didn't, loaded a fake file on payivy or w/e.

He doesn't need a loan from anyone for pennies and he probably isn't even a real artist, it s money grab and hes an obvious turd.

Just move on.

After searching his payivy name(iulianesp) he is some 19 year old kid from Romania, and he used a Romanian address on the order form.

He is a thief and scum just move on and be done with it.

Don't know why people take chances with micro loans anyways, risking your money for chump change.

he cannot go any far away, mate.
you have to be nuts to state that he/she is a scam for sure without risking a little.

I honestly have no clue what that means.

He can go far as in never log into his garbo account again

And if you mean I am stating he is a scammer without being scammed.

He did scam me and he is scamming both of you.

holy shit lel. i probably done 5-6% of all the scams of this forum :D. yeah ban my acc i got Sr. Member account and will stick to that one.

x5ploit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1124499.new#new) is me too. if u search "virtuachange" on forum  u will see another scam i pulled kek.

cya boyz. u will never know when u're dealing with me :D.

you just scammed me, huh?
it isn't good at all. just gimme back .01 btc, otherwise don't even think that people would lend.

Alhough i may support you in not paying ManyProofs back due to the way he acted.
I don't suppor your dission not to pay lottery248 back.
To do the right thing you really should and must pay lottery248 back the loan he gave you, that is a completly different story to what happened with ManyProofs and you guys made an aggrement.

To clear things up for anyone,
1) I believe that oiul must pay lottery248 back 0.01btc as agreeded apon.
2) I think oiul should do whatever he feel like wih the 0.01btc from ManyProofs because in this case there was no agreement, no loan.
3) I have never spoken with oiul outside this thread nor do i know him at all.

You may have other accounts to use but being a scammer is a low thing to do, you only owe lottery248, 0.01btc so just pay it and you still brake even because of ManyProofs stupidity.
You still win in the end.

support*
this guy must pay me back, all terms agreed together.

After reading the link oiul posted saying that he also owns account x5ploit i now admit that oiul is clearly 100% a scammer.
This is not saying that he should pay manyproofs anything, just that he should pay lottery248 back his 0.01btc but i don't think that is going to happen taken his attutide in both threads.

Why did you even lend him anything when you knew he already scammed another member?

WAOOOOHHH  famous 3 in 1 SCAM  world history

oiul x5ploit ausbit

Sherlock fucking holmes now, you should be staff as scam watch, can't get nothing past you.
Do ya homework before posting.
Still waiting for proof....

see he even talk like the scammer

Sociopath at its finest.

Also proud of his 3 dollar scams.

Children at their finest.

100+ posts for a 0.008BTC loan?

</mind blown>

Given that soon he was going to be Member, he could make that amount of money from his sig campaign doing 40 posts. That would take 2-3 days.

Some people are just born turds you can't help it.

Just have to shake your head and move on.

This thread... just pure entertainment. The things people will do for change money; sad, honestly.