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Title: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: KriszDev on July 21, 2015, 03:55:50 AM
The Times of Israel reports that researchers at Tel Aviv University found that rats with broken bones healed much quicker when given the non-psychotic marijuana component, cannabidiol or CBD.

The study, published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research on Thursday found that the bones not only healed quicker, but were also stronger and more resilient against a repeated fracture, meaning the bones treated with marijuana were much less likely to break again.

Read More (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/marijuana-can-heal-broken-bones-says-new-study-10398529.html)

It's just stupid and funny.
Marijuana. Is there anything it CAN'T do?
But can it heal a broken heart?
If not I don't need it at all.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Adamsux on July 21, 2015, 04:03:11 AM
Marijuana. Is there anything it CAN'T do?

It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Blackeye433 on July 21, 2015, 04:03:53 AM
It can make you feel good and feeling good improves healing. Petting a dog or cat will do the exact same thing. If a rock makes you feel good, the effects of that rock are the same as a joint.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Juliozz on July 21, 2015, 04:04:48 AM
It can't make me smarter. Such stupid statements of studies just prove how fool and naive smokers are to believe these studies.
I smoke weed some times and I felt becoming slower at my mental activity. I am sure weed is not for me...


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Sithara007 on July 21, 2015, 09:27:00 AM
It can't make me smarter. Such stupid statements of studies just prove how fool and naive smokers are to believe these studies.
I smoke weed some times and I felt becoming slower at my mental activity. I am sure weed is not for me...

The results are from a scientific study, which was conducted by well known researchers from around the world. And we are talking about the ability of marijuana to heal the wounds and fractures faster, and not about its ability to slow down the mental activity. There is a big difference between the two, in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Lauda on July 21, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
This still doesn't justify using it. I'm pretty sure that addicts are super excited when they hear news as this one. Pretty much everything has pros and cons (alcohol, cigars, etc.).
This doesn't surprise me though, there have been stories from time to time about its healing effects.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: tiggytomb on July 21, 2015, 11:00:31 AM
It really is a stupid society where we have made this illegal when it does have benefits and side effects which are far less than that of the 'legal' tax bringing drugs such as your alcohol and cigs.  There's more money in the war on drugs I suppose.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: darkangel11 on July 21, 2015, 11:51:51 AM
It really is a stupid society where we have made this illegal when it does have benefits and side effects which are far less than that of the 'legal' tax bringing drugs such as your alcohol and cigs.  There's more money in the war on drugs I suppose.

Not "we". Most people who made it illegal aren't even alive. Still, it's interesting how hard it is to change the law and people's mentality. Most of us know the law is stupid but it's still there.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: tiggytomb on July 21, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
It really is a stupid society where we have made this illegal when it does have benefits and side effects which are far less than that of the 'legal' tax bringing drugs such as your alcohol and cigs.  There's more money in the war on drugs I suppose.

Not "we". Most people who made it illegal aren't even alive. Still, it's interesting how hard it is to change the law and people's mentality. Most of us know the law is stupid but it's still there.

The royal 'we' :) it does seem to be turning around though little by little especially in the states where they have a lot of places allowing some use of it, I am hoping in the next decade you can walk into a shop, tell them what you are looking for and walk away with a bag and a receipt.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Loqkani07 on July 21, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
Obviously, no one read the article. The component of marijuana that was studied is CBD, which is non-psychoactive. So, you won't flunk a drug test, and it won't make you "feel better." There is no one so naïve as to dismiss a scientific study based on personal bias against a drug.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: jeckman on July 21, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
Obviously, no one read the article. The component of marijuana that was studied is CBD, which is non-psychoactive. So, you won't flunk a drug test, and it won't make you "feel better." There is no one so naïve as to dismiss a scientific study based on personal bias against a drug.

Its bullcrap BS. The high ons rats didnt get off the couch for weeks.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rodzimajid on July 21, 2015, 03:47:32 PM
The Times of Israel reports that researchers at Tel Aviv University found that rats with broken bones healed much quicker when given the non-psychotic marijuana component, cannabidiol or CBD.

The study, published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research on Thursday found that the bones not only healed quicker, but were also stronger and more resilient against a repeated fracture, meaning the bones treated with marijuana were much less likely to break again.

Read More (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/marijuana-can-heal-broken-bones-says-new-study-10398529.html)

It's just stupid and funny.
Marijuana. Is there anything it CAN'T do?
But can it heal a broken heart?
If not I don't need it at all.

Indeed it can heal a broken heart. Back in 1968 my hippee chick girlfriend broke up with me. I was in the pits of depression, but later that night her best friend, a gorgeous hippy chick turned up at my door with this big cheech and chong sized doobie, Acupulco Gold. As I nursed on that joint and she nursed on my joint suddenly a little time later my broken heart was healed. I ended up marrying her a few years later.

The powers of good herb is just amazing.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: little.cheekie on July 21, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
Yeah sure pot heads claim pot can cure anything from zits to cancer. But then if your brain is addled by pot I supose you could believe that.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
Here's how it is for some people. If a person has a chronic illness or pain they can be not in there right mind and a little slower on the pills the doc gives you or weed. Your choice but I don't know what the hell is in those pills.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: CarlesPuyol on July 21, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
"We found that CBD alone makes bones stronger during healing"
The CBD is non-active in the cannabis. It can be made in labs and I believe it is the future of healing bones.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 03:51:25 PM
Here's how it is for some people. If a person has a chronic illness or pain they can be not in there right mind and a little slower on the pills the doc gives you or weed. Your choice but I don't know what the hell is in those pills.

If one buys weed from someone else ya don't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the pests like spider mites, thrips, aphids, white flies and caterpillars off the plants, all of which will eat the pot as it grows. One also doesn't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the diseases like botrytis, powdery mildew, leaf septori and rust off it either. The goal for the grower is the biggest yield possible. Who know what sort of chemical compounds are created when pesticides/fungicides are burned.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
If one buys weed from someone else ya don't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the pests like spider mites, thrips, aphids, white flies and caterpillars off the plants, all of which will eat the pot as it grows. One also doesn't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the diseases like botrytis, powdery mildew, leaf septori and rust off it either. The goal for the grower is the biggest yield possible. Who know what sort of chemical compounds are created when pesticides/fungicides are burned.

You are right. Grow your own organic marijuana. Most people have a house plant and pot is easy to grow. 2 plants can keep most high for a year. The greed to grow the most is because of big business. The government need not be involved. BTW mint plants help keep many bugs out of plants, including spider mites.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: peterson33 on July 21, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
The healing power of CBDs is only now becoming known. How many stories of people with chronic (heh) seizures who's re-seizure rates drop like a stone in water upon ingestion of cannabis high in CBDs (and generally low in THC)


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: abasin on July 21, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.

And get you arrested and put in jail as a political prisoner. Other than that it is safer than alcohol and tobacco 10 times fold or more.

I sense some of you didn't even read the article.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: tiffany8 on July 21, 2015, 03:55:48 PM


It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.

It can make you not be a grouchy old man.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: morin on July 21, 2015, 03:56:47 PM
You are right. Grow your own organic marijuana. Most people have a house plant and pot is easy to grow. 2 plants can keep most high for a year. The greed to grow the most is because of big business. The government need not be involved. BTW mint plants help keep many bugs out of plants, including spider mites.

Pot is not a plant you want to grow in your house. Unless you LIKE the smell of skunk spray.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 03:58:42 PM
Pot is not a plant you want to grow in your house. Unless you LIKE the smell of skunk spray.

You don't have to grow it in doors and all pot does not smell like skunk. Some even smells fruity. I was just trying to make the point that it is easy to grow.
As a teen I smoked some but quit before I was out of high school, around 1981. Well life happened things changed over the years. Now I'm 50 and disabled for years now. Was drinking to much because of pain and depression and I can get morphine from the doc but I don't like that stuff plus withdrawals ( I've gone through many times) sucks. I always felt weed should be legal just never smoked it and thought the whole "it helps with this and that" was B.S. But decided to try it and now I see that it does help. I just didn't know it before because nothing was wrong with me. That being said I like to be sober because my mind is much clearer, but at the end of the day it makes life much easier with no health risk that I know of. I eat it. Any one hungry? lol
P.S. I am not a liberal I'm closer to a redneck.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: shevon on July 21, 2015, 03:59:30 PM


It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.

"The Times of Israel reports that researchers at Tel Aviv University found that rats with broken bones healed much quicker when given the non-psychotic marijuana component, cannabidiol or CBD."

well that is just stupid then isn't it, if this is true, why should you be fired for taking your medicine

proof the war on drugs ruins more lives then the drugs themselves


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: BillyBobZorton on July 21, 2015, 03:59:51 PM
I've been reading about the vast and endless amount of advantages the consumption of THC has in the body, but for those advantages to remain I suspect the consumption would need to be not casual but almost daily, which in return will have cons as well if you are prone to certain genetic conditions such as schizophrenia. Not sure how the overall pro/con balance falls at.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Spendulus on July 21, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
It can make you feel good and feeling good improves healing. Petting a dog or cat will do the exact same thing. If a rock makes you feel good, the effects of that rock are the same as a joint.

I seriously doubt this.   It's more likely that the extract used, cannabiol, has properties that stimulate bone growth and strength, and that this has nothing to do with pscyho active properties.

It's worth reading the study though to see the experimental protocol.  Was the amount of food eaten controlled, set the same between the group given the extract and the control group? 

If the effect of the extract was simply to stimulate eating, that could explain the experimental results.  Maybe rats with broken bones don't exactly feel like eating, and rats with broken bones given the extract want to do nothing other than munch on doritos in sheer blisss....


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
You are right. Grow your own organic marijuana. Most people have a house plant and pot is easy to grow. 2 plants can keep most high for a year. The greed to grow the most is because of big business. The government need not be involved. BTW mint plants help keep many bugs out of plants, including spider mites.

Legalization will inevitably lead to Big Tobacco taking over Big Pot, the big government types will see it as a new revenue stream.. They have the money and the clout to do what Big Alcohol did.....corner the market. You can bet along with legalization "of use" growing your own will become VERY illegal. Having a still can land you in jail unless you meet all the regulations and have prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: steve.reimer on July 21, 2015, 04:02:27 PM

It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.

They will be changing soon as it has already in several States.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:04:24 PM


Legalization will inevitably lead to Big Tobacco taking over Big Pot, the big government types will see it as a new revenue stream.. They have the money and the clout to do what Big Alcohol did.....corner the market. You can bet along with legalization "of use" growing your own will become VERY illegal. Having a still can land you in jail unless you meet all the regulations and have prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant.

Again you are right, but your really talking about money. If you make alcohol and grow weed for your own use not money the likelihood of getting in trouble is very low. I can get both within 10 min if I want it. The government creates criminals.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 04:08:27 PM
Again you are right, but your really talking about money. If you make alcohol and grow weed for your own use not money the likelihood of getting in trouble is very low. I can get both within 10 min if I want it. The government creates criminals.

Yes, I am talking about money. Property seizure is quite lucrative for the Government, just another great revenue stream. That won't change, they'll take everything you have.

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If you make alcohol and grow weed for your own use not money the likelihood of getting in trouble is very low.

One can get away with it with alcohol, but Pot requires electricity hogging grow lights. That shows up on your electricity bill.



Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Yes, I am talking about money. Property seizure is quite lucrative for the Government, just another great revenue stream. That won't change, they'll take everything you have.

One can get away with it with alcohol, but Pot requires electricity hogging grow lights. That shows up on your electricity bill.

No pot does not require all that. Big indoor pot businesses do, but again we are talking about money. Anyone can grow a few plants right next to there tomatoes.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: krenare on July 21, 2015, 04:11:06 PM


"The Times of Israel reports that researchers at Tel Aviv University found that rats with broken bones healed much quicker when given the non-psychotic marijuana component, cannabidiol or CBD."

well that is just stupid then isn't it, if this is true, why should you be fired for taking your medicine

proof the war on drugs ruins more lives then the drugs themselves

I think this issue is something that most of us on the liberal and conservative side can rally around. Whether you like weed or not, the fact that it can land you in jail is just stupid. Employers can decide their own policy. I'm glad my company doesn't have a drug test policy and I still make more than the national average.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: IDKwhatimdoing on July 21, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
There is another plant that is very helpful for broken bones...comfrey. Great to hear this may be possible with marijuana.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:12:09 PM
Not sure if it will mend broken bones, but if you smoke enough if it, you might not care (or remember) that your bone is broken.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ezly on July 21, 2015, 04:13:37 PM


Its bullcrap BS. The high ons rats didnt get off the couch for weeks.

You realize CBD is not psychoactive right? As in it doesn't get you high at all?


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ezly on July 21, 2015, 04:20:27 PM
If one buys weed from someone else ya don't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the pests like spider mites, thrips, aphids, white flies and caterpillars off the plants, all of which will eat the pot as it grows. One also doesn't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the diseases like botrytis, powdery mildew, leaf septori and rust off it either. The goal for the grower is the biggest yield possible. Who know what sort of chemical compounds are created when pesticides/fungicides are burned.

Which is why you smoke hydroponically grown weed that they don't spray pesticides on and get your dope from a trusted source.
Not to mention: All you bring up could be efficiently and simply cured by a legal, taxed and regulated market. See CO, or alcohol. Heard of Jakeleg? No? Wonder why? Its because booze you buy at the store is not tainted or made out of antifreeze.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ezly on July 21, 2015, 04:29:06 PM
Legalization will inevitably lead to Big Tobacco taking over Big Pot, the big government types will see it as a new revenue stream.. They have the money and the clout to do what Big Alcohol did.....corner the market. You can bet along with legalization "of use" growing your own will become VERY illegal. Having a still can land you in jail unless you meet all the regulations and have prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant.

But you can homebrew beer and wine. SO its unlikely homegrowth for personal will be entirely done away with. Restricted? Sure. Done away with entirely?

Yes, I am talking about money. Property seizure is quite lucrative for the Government, just another great revenue stream. That won't change, they'll take everything you have.

One can get away with it with alcohol, but Pot requires electricity hogging grow lights. That shows up on your electricity bill.

Solar roof. Hides the heat signature from the lights too since solar is so hot.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Only pot smokers support legalizing pot.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ezly on July 21, 2015, 04:38:11 PM
Not sure if it will mend broken bones, but if you smoke enough if it, you might not care (or remember) that your bone is broken.

You realize 1) they were using extracted CBD only which is not psychoactive IE doesn't get you high? and 2) that they weren't having the rats smoke that and no one is saying smoking dope will heal a broken bone faster?


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Not sure if it will mend broken bones, but if you smoke enough if it, you might not care (or remember) that your bone is broken.

Yep just like taking pills only better for you without the addiction.

Only pot smokers support legalizing pot.

Very true. Only drinkers support alcohol being legal.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:41:48 PM
Yep just like taking pills only better for you without the addiction.

Yes, because nobody in recorded history has ever taken pills and not get addicted to them.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:42:57 PM


Yes, because nobody in recorded history has ever taken pills and not get addicted to them.

If you need pain meds everyday you will get addicted and have withdrawals . That is a fact. If you drink alcohol everyday for pain you will get addicted and have withdrawals when you have none. And that's a fact. So explain again why pot is so bad. Oh it makes you sit on the couch and relax, then you have a great night sleep, and if there's none for morning you have no withdrawals.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
So explain again why pot is so bad.

Well, it must be pretty bad if only pot smokers think it should be legal.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:45:50 PM
Well, it must be pretty bad if only pot smokers think it should be legal.

By that logic alcohol must be real bad if only drinkers want it legal. So is everything people want legal bad? If so even you are screwed.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:47:03 PM


By that logic alcohol must be real bad if only drinkers want it legal.

I've already made that argument.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ended on July 21, 2015, 04:49:19 PM


It can make you fail a drug test and lose your job.

As with all things - be responsible. If your work drug tests, you shouldn't use cannabis (or you should at least be aware of the risk of being fired).


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: arul.BP on July 21, 2015, 04:50:26 PM


If one buys weed from someone else ya don't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the pests like spider mites, thrips, aphids, white flies and caterpillars off the plants, all of which will eat the pot as it grows. One also doesn't know what the hell the grower sprayed on it to keep the diseases like botrytis, powdery mildew, leaf septori and rust off it either. The goal for the grower is the biggest yield possible. Who know what sort of chemical compounds are created when pesticides/fungicides are burned.

A good reason to legalize home growing for some and commercial growing that is regulated like any other crop and sold commercially where the seller doesn't want bad things in his product else it get out and he's out of business. Get it all above ground, forgive the pun.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
Who cares if an adult smokes weed or has a stiff drink at the end of the day? really?

This is an issue where you can see who the real fascists are....

The legalization or decriminalization of pot is a win for classical liberalism....


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: n2004al on July 21, 2015, 04:51:45 PM

The Times of Israel reports that researchers at Tel Aviv University found that rats with broken bones healed much quicker when given the non-psychotic marijuana component, cannabidiol or CBD.


This news is music for the users of marijuana. Who can hear those now?


But can it heal a broken heart?



Lol. Who knows? No study was showed but this doesn't tell that there are not study in progress.



Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 04:53:13 PM
No pot does not require all that. Big indoor pot businesses do, but again we are talking about money. Anyone can grow a few plants right next to there tomatoes.

Marijuana bust shines light on utilities (http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120129/PC1602/301299979)

Good luck!


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: godlyitems on July 21, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
Marijuana bust shines light on utilities (http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120129/PC1602/301299979)

Good luck!

See that's about money again. Know one needs electricity to grow any plant. Haven't you guys ever seen a tree? If a person grows 2 plants in the back yard no one will even know. Not even the DEA, or the guy next door. But the smart thing to do is talk to your neighbors ask them if they are ok with it. Many are. They don't want you growing $50,000 worth but a plant or two, no biggie. The feds got not time for a $500 bust, or bug your phone, or follow you around.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
See that's about money again. Know one needs electricity to grow any plant. Haven't you guys ever seen a tree? If a person grows 2 plants in the back yard no one will even know. Not even the DEA, or the guy next door. But the smart thing to do is talk to your neighbors ask them if they are ok with it. Many are. They don't want you growing $50,000 worth but a plant or two, no biggie. The feds got not time for a $500 bust, or bug your phone, or follow you around.

The little guys have less money to fight the charges with and therefore make the more desirable targets. Plus they add to the bust/conviction numbers.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Congtyn on July 21, 2015, 04:56:32 PM

The little guys have less money to fight the charges with and therefore make the more desirable targets. Plus they add to the bust/conviction numbers.

Are you part of law enforcement or have you been involved in illegal activity enough to know this for a fact. I've seen both sides and it may all depend on where you live not what state you live in.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 04:57:21 PM
Are you part of law enforcement or have you been involved in illegal activity enough to know this for a fact. I've seen both sides and it may all depend on where you live not what state you live in.

All one has to do is look. I'm 58 years old and the the jails are full or "little fish" used to pad the conviction rates of DA's with loftier aspirations.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: little.cheekie on July 21, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
Yeah sure pot heads claim pot can cure anything from zits to cancer. But then if your brain is addled by pot I supose you could believe that.

There's no evidence suggesting permanent brain damage to adults who use cannabis.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
There's no evidence suggesting permanent brain damage to adults who use cannabis.

February 7, 2011

Cannabis May Influence Onset of Psychosis

Research to be published this summer finds that the use of cannabis is associated with the early onset of psychosis. Christie Nicholson reports.

This particular study found that marijuana use is associated with early development of psychosis. Scientists analyzed 83 studies involving over 8,000 subjects who used pot and over 14,000 subjects who did not. They compared the age of onset for psychosis between these groups. And they found that those who used cannabis developed psychosis nearly three years younger than those who did not use any pot.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/cannabis-may-influence-onset-of-psy-11-02-07/ (http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/cannabis-may-influence-onset-of-psy-11-02-07/)



Don't Rule Out Marijuana as Trigger for Schizophrenia

By: RICHARD HYER, Clinical Psychiatry News Digital Network

09/21/11

CHICAGO – The idea that cannabis use might trigger a patient’s first psychotic episode is one that needs to be taken seriously, Dr. John Csernansky said at a seminar on "Reinventing Inpatient Psychiatry."

"Are there patients out there who have schizophrenia who would not have had it without substance abuse? There may be," said Dr. Csernansky, chairman of the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern University, Chicago. "This is a very hot topic and one that is genuinely frightening."

Cannabis use is frequent within 1-2 years before the first psychotic break. A variety of epidemiological studies suggest that cannabis use in adolescence (15-18) increases the risk for development of schizophrenia, even years later.

The connection between cannabis use and early psychosis is particularly concerning because substance abuse is common in schizophrenia. Cannabis, in particular, has a severe effect on the thalamus of the person with schizophrenia. This effect is worse than the effect of alcohol.

"It looks as though alcohol makes schizophrenia worse, whereas cannabis damages a part of the brain that maybe otherwise would have not been [damaged]," Dr. Csernansky said.

http://www.clinicalpsychiatrynews.com/single-view/don-t-rule-out-marijuana-as-trigger-for-schizophrenia/df0b545c0b.html (http://www.clinicalpsychiatrynews.com/single-view/don-t-rule-out-marijuana-as-trigger-for-schizophrenia/df0b545c0b.html)

Growing Evidence Of Marijuana Smoke's Potential Dangers

ScienceDaily (Aug. 5, 2009) — In a finding that challenges the increasingly popular belief that smoking marijuana is less harmful to health than smoking tobacco, researchers in Canada are reporting that smoking marijuana, like smoking tobacco, has toxic effects on cells.

Scientists know that marijuana smoke has adverse effects on the lungs. However, there is little knowledge about marijuana's potential to cause lung cancer due to the difficulty in identifying and studying people who have smoked only marijuana.

The new study begins to address that question by comparing marijuana smoke vs. tobacco smoke in terms of toxicity to cells and to DNA. Scientists exposed cultured animal cells and bacteria to condensed smoke samples from both marijuana and tobacco. There were distinct differences in the degree and type of toxicity elicited by marijuana and cigarette smoke.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm)

The evidence is mounting.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: rio3232 on July 21, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
All one has to do is look. I'm 58 years old and the the jails are full or "little fish" used to pad the conviction rates of DA's with loftier aspirations.

You are right to a point. BTW I'm 50, so I'm not a youngster. I live in a small rural conservative town and I like it this way. No this town will not allow pot dispensaries and does not condone the growing of it within the city limits. And I understand why. I'm also ok with that. That being said no one gets busted for 2 plants in their garden. I think part of that is the attitude of mind your own business and if it's not affecting your life let it be. In the city there are many more rules and people trying to run your life. Yes I've lived in Vallejo ca for 18 years and I do know the difference.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: ezly on July 21, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
The evidence is mounting.

Mounting? That's been known far longer than 2011. ANY psychoactive substance (even CAFFEINE) can cause the ONSET of psychosis IE if you are predisposed to psychosis anyway it can bring it out earlier.
If your family has a history of psychosis you shouldn't be using ANY pschoactives at all. ANY. Not just pot.

Your lung study is disproven too.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821)


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Spendulus on July 21, 2015, 05:11:45 PM
See that's about money again. Know one needs electricity to grow any plant. Haven't you guys ever seen a tree? If a person grows 2 plants in the back yard no one will even know. Not even the DEA, or the guy next door. But the smart thing to do is talk to your neighbors ask them if they are ok with it. Many are. They don't want you growing $50,000 worth but a plant or two, no biggie. The feds got not time for a $500 bust, or bug your phone, or follow you around.

The little guys have less money to fight the charges with and therefore make the more desirable targets. Plus they add to the bust/conviction numbers.

Well, yah.  since the little guys all plea bargain....100% of arrests are convictions...


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: panju1 on July 21, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
See that's about money again. Know one needs electricity to grow any plant. Haven't you guys ever seen a tree? If a person grows 2 plants in the back yard no one will even know. Not even the DEA, or the guy next door. But the smart thing to do is talk to your neighbors ask them if they are ok with it. Many are. They don't want you growing $50,000 worth but a plant or two, no biggie. The feds got not time for a $500 bust, or bug your phone, or follow you around.

The little guys have less money to fight the charges with and therefore make the more desirable targets. Plus they add to the bust/conviction numbers.

The only point is if you are growing for self consumption, it is unlikely that they will ever find out.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Spendulus on July 21, 2015, 05:24:45 PM
There's no evidence suggesting permanent brain damage to adults who use cannabis.

February 7, 2011

Cannabis May Influence Onset of Psychosis

Research to be published this summer finds that the use of cannabis is associated with the early onset of psychosis. Christie Nicholson reports.

This particular study found that marijuana use is associated with early development of psychosis.....

The evidence is mounting.
No, the evidence is not mounting.

"Associated with" is not indicative of cause and effect.  You see, a large percentage of illegal drug use is what might be called "self medication."  EG, "I feel bad, so I'll take this stuff and I'll feel much, much better."

The self medication of someone with latent or emerging psychotic tendencies does not imply said tendencies erupt faster due to the self medication.   

This is a difficult subject, by the way.  It's one of those things that's ugly no matter which way you paint it or look at it or which action you prefer or suggest.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: BlitzandBitz on July 21, 2015, 06:14:42 PM
The funny thing is thc is what gets you high but from all the studies I can find cbd is the only compound in marijuana that has medical properties.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Spendulus on July 21, 2015, 07:44:08 PM
The funny thing is thc is what gets you high but from all the studies I can find cbd is the only compound in marijuana that has medical properties.
I'm too lazy to look the law and the regs up but you might well find that the cbd compound wasn't even illegal.....

...if that wasn't the case it would be relatively easy to get an exclusion EXCEPT...

For the ten year FDA drug approval BS so that leads one to conclude....

BRING ON thE wEED, MAN!

LOL.....


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: BitcoinMagician on July 22, 2015, 05:16:00 AM
I'm completely convinced that the war on drugs was only a ploy to act against outsiders (Asians and Latin Americans), and to give away money to privately owned prisons. Also, to put tons of black people in jail (that's what it's great at, anyways). Anybody that knows anything of how effective (well, ineffective) trillions of dollars in government spending over 30+ years was to bring down the drug use in the US knows that the war on drugs is a complete failure. A failure and an attack against the basic human right of self-ownership.
I get to harm my body however the I want. Should taxpayer dollars be wasted persecuting everyone destroying their body with fast food? No. Should the government persecute people using drugs? No. "But people might hurt other people when high!" Some say. Yeah, the same risk is inherent to alcohol. What we do when is that we don't go arresting every single person that drinks, rather, we prosecute drunks for hurting other people (while drunk). And we let the rest of the people consume alcohol, because they have the right to.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: zenitzz on July 22, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
marijuana is good for your health,You can make choosing a safer alternative to the recreational drug. and marijuana is not a crime if you use not for drugs


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: BitcoinMagician on July 23, 2015, 05:13:59 AM
marijuana is good for your health,You can make choosing a safer alternative to the recreational drug. and marijuana is not a crime if you use not for drugs

No, it still is a drug you can go to prison for, in most states of the US and a bunch of countries. I envy the people at [wherever you live], because their government partially respect their right to use whatever substance they desire, even if it a recreational drug.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Possum577 on July 23, 2015, 08:16:56 AM
Is this really news? Marijuana makes the prospect of chilling on the couch the most attractive activity, which keeps people off their feet and not moving, thus allowing sore or broken bones to heal!


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: BADecker on July 24, 2015, 01:42:03 PM
And alcohol breaks families faster than Marijuana.   :)


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: zenitzz on July 24, 2015, 08:16:40 PM
And alcohol breaks families faster than Marijuana.   :)

agree i have read studies on marijuana and  it is more appropriately called, has been part of humanity's medicine. i guess you will feel fun if you try marijuana  ;D


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: Spendulus on July 25, 2015, 08:43:01 PM
I'm completely convinced that the war on drugs was only a ploy to act against outsiders (Asians and Latin Americans), and to give away money to privately owned prisons. Also, to put tons of black people in jail (that's what it's great at, anyways). Anybody that knows anything of how effective (well, ineffective) trillions of dollars in government spending over 30+ years was to bring down the drug use in the US knows that the war on drugs is a complete failure. A failure and an attack against the basic human right of self-ownership.
I get to harm my body however the I want. Should taxpayer dollars be wasted persecuting everyone destroying their body with fast food? No. Should the government persecute people using drugs? No. "But people might hurt other people when high!" Some say. Yeah, the same risk is inherent to alcohol. What we do when is that we don't go arresting every single person that drinks, rather, we prosecute drunks for hurting other people (while drunk). And we let the rest of the people consume alcohol, because they have the right to.
You have a good point regarding law against bad behavior, instead of law against mental condition.

But (bolded above) confuses cause and effect.  Most laws are passed with generally good intentions - but solutions are voted in which are capable of being corrupted.  Then over time, the various styles of corruption creep in.  That's seen in a lot of situations.

That's way different than arguing that they are passed conspiratorially, with hidden intent.


Title: Re: Marijuana helps broken bones heal faster, a new study has found.
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 26, 2015, 01:09:40 PM
I'm completely convinced that the war on drugs was only a ploy to act against outsiders (Asians and Latin Americans), and to give away money to privately owned prisons. Also, to put tons of black people in jail (that's what it's great at, anyways).

The vast majority of the prisoners on drug charges are from the African-American community. The Asians are not that well represented (in the US). The drug trade in the United States is mostly controlled by the African Americans and the Latinos, unlike the case in Canada where ethnic Asians (especially the Chinese and the Punjabis) constitute most of the drug lords.