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Title: Trump accused of rape
Post by: peterson33 on July 28, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Ivana Trump once accused the real-estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’

Donald Trump introduced his presidential campaign to the world with a slur against Mexican immigrants, accusing them of being “rapists” and bringing crime into the country.

“I mean somebody’s doing it!… Who’s doing the raping?” Donald Trump said, when asked to defend his characterization.

It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trump—in more ways than one. Not only does the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

............Read More................. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

Looks like soon Trump's campaign may be over. His ex wife Ivana claims that Trump raped her many years ago. Though it might me not true, liberal media will now do everything possible to discredit Trump. Rape accusation is a thing no one can avoid and Trump will probably be sued for that. Of course that's a dirty trick but the most effective one. I hope he will be okay.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Gijina on July 28, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
Libs are the majority of the Media and they despise Trump, hence they are desperately trying to discredit him. Soon, they'll have an 80 yr. old hooker in Hoboken saying he patted her on the butt in 1952.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Spendulus on July 28, 2015, 04:13:51 PM
Ivana Trump once accused the real-estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’

Donald Trump introduced his presidential campaign to the world with a slur against Mexican immigrants, accusing them of being “rapists” and bringing crime into the country.

“I mean somebody’s doing it!… Who’s doing the raping?” Donald Trump said, when asked to defend his characterization.

It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trump—in more ways than one. Not only does the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

............Read More................. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

Looks like soon Trump's campaign may be over. His ex wife Ivana claims that Trump raped her many years ago. Though it might me not true, liberal media will now do everything possible to discredit Trump. Rape accusation is a thing no one can avoid and Trump will probably be sued for that. Of course that's a dirty trick but the most effective one. I hope he will be okay.

It won't work.

In this particular case, people are going to see through it and it will backfire on the media.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: tiffany8 on July 28, 2015, 04:14:25 PM
This is a joke. His ex is a drunk. Bill Clinton survived far more serious allegations.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Kenchaa on July 28, 2015, 04:17:08 PM
Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’ (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

try again


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: fungfung on July 28, 2015, 04:19:09 PM
Accused of rape now huh. How convenient.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 28, 2015, 04:20:12 PM
“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

What if she doesn't consent, that would be a type of rape, so would the charge for the spouse be "___ sexual assault" or something similar?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Adamsux on July 28, 2015, 04:20:58 PM
Once upon a time she was double barrel hot, hot enough to make a homosexual drool. Now............. not so much.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: jeckman on July 28, 2015, 04:23:42 PM


............Read More................. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

Looks like soon Trump's campaign may be over. His ex wife Ivana claims that Trump raped her many years ago. Though it might me not true, liberal media will now do everything possible to discredit Trump. Rape accusation is a thing no one can avoid and Trump will probably be sued for that. Of course that's a dirty trick but the most effective one. I hope he will be okay.

So this is how the left is going to neutralize Hillary's crappy record regarding the war on women? Really?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: tmfp on July 28, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
This is a joke.  

No it's not a joke, it's the would be president's lawyer saying it's ok to rape your wife. It isn't, and it's illegal just about everywhere.

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His ex is a drunk.

So would you be if you'd been married to that asshole.

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Bill Clinton survived far more serious allegations.

Like what, getting a consensual blow job?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:25:01 PM
Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’ (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

try again

I'm not saying he's guilty, but he needs much better representation if his defense is "marital rape doesn't exist"

"Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”"

Though maybe Ivanna is buying it too, since she believes there is some magical thing called "Rape . . . but not in the criminal sense"

If it really played out the way your article says it does, this maniac needs to be locked away for a very, very long time.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:26:29 PM


............Read More................. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

Looks like soon Trump's campaign may be over. His ex wife Ivana claims that Trump raped her many years ago. Though it might me not true, liberal media will now do everything possible to discredit Trump. Rape accusation is a thing no one can avoid and Trump will probably be sued for that. Of course that's a dirty trick but the most effective one. I hope he will be okay.

I hope it's not true.

But the rape allegations didn't harm Bill Clinton's election, so I'm not about to assume an unverified allegation will have an effect. Rape is uncommon anyway, so why the minds of some people are so eager to believe anything they hear on the National Enquirer is beyond me - if it was a murder accusation instead of rape, no one would be assuming it right off the bat


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: issacsy on July 28, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Bad-mouth a P.O.W. and Karma bites you in the butt.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Beefcake on July 28, 2015, 04:28:10 PM
I don't really think that trump is serious about running.  It is a money and publicity grab for him.  I mean cmon, no one who actually wants to win would open with statmenst he has made, would they?

Does it seem to anyone else that the cadidates just get worse every time?  And yes I am including both parties here.

I am a huge Biden supporter, but not for his politics.  Do a google search for quotes, this guy is comedy gold.  Since all of the candidates are crap, or at least the ones with a chance of winning, why not at least get a few laughs for 4 years?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
Once upon a time she was double barrel hot, hot enough to make a homosexual drool. Now............. not so much.
I think it's more likely she raped Trump and not the other way around - can't think of anyone being desperate enough to hit that voluntarily.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:31:29 PM
Accused of rape now huh. How convenient.

How is it convenient? You act as if the accusation just came out.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:33:25 PM
Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of ‘rape,’ although she later clarified: not in the ‘criminal sense.’ (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)

try again

I think the case is closed here. Most likely she had sex with him and regretted it afterwards, and is now deciding to call that "rape".

I guess if I ever get drunk, go home with a fat chick, and regret it in the morning when I sober up I should start accusing her of "rape" too.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
I think the case is closed here. Most likely she had sex with him and regretted it afterwards, and is now deciding to call that "rape".

Did you actually read the article?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: eaglerock on July 28, 2015, 04:36:22 PM

I think it's more likely she raped Trump and not the other way around - can't think of anyone being desperate enough to hit that voluntarily.
Just another gold digger.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 28, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
Once upon a time she was double barrel hot, hot enough to make a homosexual drool. Now............. not so much.

Uh oh! Now you got her all upset:

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ivana+Trump+Rt43dmd5wPCm.jpg


Once upon a time she was double barrel hot, hot enough to make a homosexual drool:

http://youworkit.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ivana-Trump-Photo-Milk-MOUSTACHE-96.jpg

Do any of our "rainbow friends" care to comment?  :D


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:38:06 PM
Did you actually read the article?

“she felt raped emotionally…She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.”
So in other words, it wasn't rape. Unless one's using the same definition of "rape" as PETA uses of "murder".


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:39:08 PM

Just another gold digger.


who's already rich and isn't making any money off of the allegations


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:41:02 PM

Just another gold digger.


Yep, no credibility whatsoever - it came out as soon as Trump began the election campaign - this isn't like the Bill Cosby or Jerry Sandusky cases.


who's already rich and isn't making any money off of the allegations

She got her 15 minutes of fame - maybe she's hoping to get a gig in a reality show, who knows?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
“she felt raped emotionally…She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.”
So in other words, it wasn't rape. Unless one's using the same definition of "rape" as PETA uses of "murder".

The whole article. Including the description of what happened.

"After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.

“Your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.

What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified…It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rodzimajid on July 28, 2015, 04:46:33 PM
Libs are the majority of the Media and they despise Trump, hence they are desperately trying to discredit him. Soon, they'll have an 80 yr. old hooker in Hoboken saying he patted her on the butt in 1952.
So Trump wife says he raped her and it is the media's fault. Duggar hide the fact that Josh molest his sisters and another girl and it is the liberals fault. I find this very interesting .


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: saddampbuh on July 28, 2015, 04:49:26 PM
there is no such thing as rape within marriage, read your bibles


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: godlyitems on July 28, 2015, 04:52:28 PM
"Don't get mad,get everything!"
"Supposedly" gold-digging my eye.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/23/ivana-trump-boyfriends-donald-trump_n_4482791.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/23/ivana-trump-boyfriends-donald-trump_n_4482791.html)


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:54:14 PM
The whole article. Including the description of what happened.

"After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.

“Your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.

What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.

“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified…It is a violent assault,” Hurt writes. “According to versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, ‘he raped me.’”
Then why did she retract this and claim it wasn't actual rape in a criminal sense?

Sounds like she was scared of going to jail for filing false rape charges, or being sued for defamation so she backed out. Reminds me of the chick who claimed that Justin Bieber knocked her up and backed out at the last minute after he did a DNA test.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
She got her 15 minutes of fame - maybe she's hoping to get a gig in a reality show, who knows?

This is just getting desperate. If this was to get a reality show, or to get publicity in some other way, why didn't she seek that publicity decades ago?


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: rio3232 on July 28, 2015, 04:56:23 PM
This is just getting desperate. If this was to get a reality show, or to get publicity in some other way, why didn't she seek that publicity decades ago?
I asked you a question - why did she say "It was not rape in the criminal sense" after originally describing it as such? Can she not keep a straight story?

Not to mention Trump's publicity wasn't near what it was today now that he's running for office.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Wilikon on July 28, 2015, 04:59:37 PM





http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivana-trump-rejects-rape-allegations-article-1.2306290



Case. Closed.



Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Valonib on July 28, 2015, 05:00:31 PM
So Trump wife says he raped her and it is the media's fault.
When Cain got traction the left media couldn't beat him so they paid women to lie and threatened Cain to drop out or see the accusations escalate.

Trump is gaining that same traction and Hillary has nothing to match him, no record no plan nothing but the liberal tricks of identity politics and misdirection.

Surprise surprise after all these years and just in time for election season a women comes up with a damaging claim that can't be proven.

Somebody check her bank statements ...I smell a payday.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Wilikon on July 28, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
So Trump wife says he raped her and it is the media's fault.
When Cain got traction the left media couldn't beat him so they paid women to lie and threatened Cain to drop out or see the accusations escalate.

Trump is gaining that same traction and Hillary has nothing to match him, no record no plan nothing but the liberal tricks of identity politics and misdirection.

Surprise surprise after all these years and just in time for election season a women comes up with a damaging claim that can't be proven.

Somebody check her bank statements ...I smell a payday.


The ex wife supports him as the next US president...



Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: KriszDev on July 28, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
I asked you a question - why did she say "It was not rape in the criminal sense" after originally describing it as such? Can she not keep a straight story?

Not to mention Trump's publicity wasn't near what it was today now that he's running for office.

She wouldn't be the first abused woman to recant her story. Now, if she was just gold digging, why didn't she collect, or even try to?

When Cain got traction the left media couldn't beat him so they paid women to lie and threatened Cain to drop out or see the accusations escalate.
Trump is gaining that same traction and Hillary has nothing to match him, no record no plan nothing but the liberal tricks of identity politics and misdirection.
Surprise surprise after all these years and just in time for election season a women comes up with a damaging claim that can't be proven.
Somebody check her bank statements ...I smell a payday.

The accusation was made decades ago. Try again.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: MakingMoneyHoney on July 28, 2015, 05:18:30 PM
Though it's horrible to think this happened. I bet not one of the presidential candidates would hold up under 100% scrutiny, if it were possible.

It's not like we haven't had morally corrupt presidents before.

On a side note, I honestly can't even believe Hillary is in the running, most people don't trust her, that's in the polls. If you don't trust her, why is she even a candidate again?

POLL: Voters don't trust Hillary Clinton (http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-voters-dont-trust-hillary-clinton-2015-5)

Swing state poll: Clinton not honest, trustworthy (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/)

"(CNN)A majority of voters in three key presidential swing states view Hillary Clinton as not honest and trustworthy, according to a new poll out Wednesday."


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Spendulus on July 28, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
I don't really think that trump is serious about running.  It is a money and publicity grab for him.  I mean cmon, no one who actually wants to win would open with statmenst he has made, would they?

Does it seem to anyone else that the cadidates just get worse every time?  And yes I am including both parties here.

I am a huge Biden supporter, but not for his politics.  Do a google search for quotes, this guy is comedy gold.  Since all of the candidates are crap, or at least the ones with a chance of winning, why not at least get a few laughs for 4 years?

I have to disagree.  Trump's jokes trump Biden's gaffs.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: RodeoX on July 28, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
there is no such thing as rape within marriage, read your bibles
It's also not rape to knock up your daughter, read your bibles.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Panzzer on July 28, 2015, 06:28:37 PM
His ex wife just wanted more money.


Title: Re: Trump accused of rape
Post by: Spendulus on July 28, 2015, 07:37:48 PM
His ex wife just wanted more money.

"After a painful scalp reduction surgery to remove a bald spot, Donald Trump confronted his then-wife, who had previously used the same plastic surgeon.

“Your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing doctor has ruined me!” Trump cried.

What followed was a “violent assault,” according to Lost Tycoon. Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation.


So his messed up hair is HER FAULT?  Wow, she should get 20 years in the federal penitentiary for that.