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Post by: CryptyMike on July 29, 2015, 04:39:13 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

The price seems like a fine entry point, it isn't necessarily high considering it's history.



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: rdnkjdi on July 29, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
Here is what happens.

Anti Monero trolls who hate Monero start making stupid "Monero is gonna take over the world"

lovable pro Monero trolls decide it's probably Darkcoin so they start anti Darkcoin threads

All Darkcoin people get pissed at Monero and start anti monero threads.

Random trolls get involved and create new accounts and post random shit with Monero in the title.

It's just this classic pissing contest that happens on occasion that has nothing to do with price. 


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 29, 2015, 04:49:06 PM
Here is what happens.

Anti Monero trolls who hate Monero start making stupid "Monero is gonna take over the world"

lovable pro Monero trolls decide it's probably Darkcoin so they start anti Darkcoin threads

All Darkcoin people get pissed at Monero and start anti monero threads.

Random trolls get involved and create new accounts and post random shit with Monero in the title.

It's just this classic pissing contest that happens on occasion that has nothing to do with price. 

I get that part, but Monero has been around for few months now, why did it start now?

And, what are your thoughts?


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: rdnkjdi on July 29, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
Monero has been around for a lot longer than that ... a year now maybe?


I like Monero - it's only one of two cryptos I'm interested in.  All of the trolling and drama you just gotta try to cut thru the shit.  Go read on the history of cryptonote, what the bitcoin devs have said about it then further specifically Monero.  It's all there - just dig a little and you'll understand why it's attracted the attention of some of the old players and developers.

Why it keeps attracting drama I'm not sure.  We have one of these "Lets see how many Monero posts we can get on the front page (Positive, negative, complaining about the number of posts, etc) every three months or so like clockwork.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 29, 2015, 04:59:44 PM
Monero has been around for a lot longer than that ... a year now maybe?


I like Monero - it's only one of two cryptos I'm interested in.  All of the trolling and drama you just gotta try to cut thru the shit.  Go read on the history of cryptonote, what the bitcoin devs have said about it then further specifically Monero.  It's all there - just dig a little and you'll understand why it's attracted the attention of some of the old players and developers.

Why it keeps attracting drama I'm not sure.  We have one of these "Lets see how many Monero posts we can get on the front page (Positive, negative, complaining about the number of posts, etc) every three months or so like clockwork.

Yeah, I've been in the crypto game for a long time, I know how to read the BS. Just found it random that now Monero is being posted everywhere. I actually like XMR. I have been all out of altcoins for a few months now, 100% BTC. Might break that up with some Monero though.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: pandher on July 29, 2015, 05:05:05 PM
From what i see, anti Monero people are making countless hype threads to make it look bad in eyes of interested people

But negative publicity is also publicity


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: rangedriver on July 29, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
Here is what happens.

Anti Monero trolls who hate Monero start making stupid "Monero is gonna take over the world"

lovable pro Monero trolls decide it's probably Darkcoin so they start anti Darkcoin threads

All Darkcoin people get pissed at Monero and start anti monero threads.

Random trolls get involved and create new accounts and post random shit with Monero in the title.

It's just this classic pissing contest that happens on occasion that has nothing to do with price. 

Pretty much nailed it.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: kekek on July 29, 2015, 05:26:13 PM
Many people who hold XMR will claim that the rise in XMR spam is a result of trolls.

Personally I doubt that. I mean if that was really the case we'd see this kind of thing more often.

To me it seems this troll narrative being pushed forward is similar to the old arguments about Paycoin.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: mrkavasaki on July 29, 2015, 05:31:17 PM
simple, i think that risto pay these people ::)


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: rdnkjdi on July 29, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Many people who hold XMR will claim that the rise in XMR spam is a result of trolls.

Personally I doubt that. I mean if that was really the case we'd see this kind of thing more often.

To me it seems this troll narrative being pushed forward is similar to the old arguments about Paycoin.

I think it's less malicious intent or "forum bullying by spam attacks".  People are just bored 'cuz not much is moving and they poke Monero for entertainment.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: jeannemadrigal2 on July 29, 2015, 05:36:31 PM
simple, i think that risto pay these people ::)

I think this is possible, but who knows, maybe people are genuinely interested in the coin.  I don't see too much chat about it, but what I see tends to be positive.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: DaveyJones on July 29, 2015, 06:46:56 PM
Monero has been around for a lot longer than that ... a year now maybe?


I like Monero - it's only one of two cryptos I'm interested in.  All of the trolling and drama you just gotta try to cut thru the shit.  Go read on the history of cryptonote, what the bitcoin devs have said about it then further specifically Monero.  It's all there - just dig a little and you'll understand why it's attracted the attention of some of the old players and developers.

Why it keeps attracting drama I'm not sure.  We have one of these "Lets see how many Monero posts we can get on the front page (Positive, negative, complaining about the number of posts, etc) every three months or so like clockwork.

Yeah, I've been in the crypto game for a long time, I know how to read the BS. Just found it random that now Monero is being posted everywhere. I actually like XMR. I have been all out of altcoins for a few months now, 100% BTC. Might break that up with some Monero though.

If you want to research Monero at Bitcointalk you can do that in 2 Threads.

Mainthread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0)

Speculation Thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.4460 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.4460)

And if you like games this may also be interesting

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.0)




Many people who hold XMR will claim that the rise in XMR spam is a result of trolls.

Personally I doubt that. I mean if that was really the case we'd see this kind of thing more often.

To me it seems this troll narrative being pushed forward is similar to the old arguments about Paycoin.

To me it seems you are shilling as good as you can somewhere to up your post-count. Or where comes the urge to post in almost single Monero Fud Thread, but afaik i never seen you in the real ones?


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: BagHolder010 on July 29, 2015, 07:03:39 PM
Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

& this is very possible when Monero started it website was in Blue/white with a Finnish flag guess who's from there Risto rpietila...they all claim Dash is shit but when you ask even Monero developer what did you bring to the table for Crypto beside cry"p"to about it in these forums and reddit yes that's right NOTHING. Yet they will hate on Shadow/DASH check Smooth's hype calls in OTHER Ann threads for Monero and how he and other Monero trolls downgrade other coins in their own ANN threads.

You have a dead ANN Monero thread with a dead Monero forum so theybvcome here hyping with nothing to offer they even hating on Byte and support Dashcoin with REAL money just because it's name is Dashcoin! check their thread and you will see Monero guys including Monero developer giving them 100's of Monero as a gift to support them somehow.

When you're family is poor the mother starts boiling hot water so the kids stop crying and go to sleep since there is no food, this is what's happening here with Monero with rpietila claiming he has big deals from Finland and Estonia while he only wants to hit it big again like he did in Bitcoin but wasted he's money in a house worth 1.1m Euro's and a fancy car.

Go get a GUI wallet working and stop the hate instead.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: futureofbitcoin on July 29, 2015, 07:04:42 PM
it isn't sudden, it's been there for a while


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 29, 2015, 07:35:57 PM
it isn't sudden, it's been there for a while

I know, I remember when it came out. I just noticed it around the forums more as of late...I feel silly even creating this thread lol


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: futureofbitcoin on July 29, 2015, 07:43:25 PM
it isn't sudden, it's been there for a while

I know, I remember when it came out. I just noticed it around the forums more as of late...I feel silly even creating this thread lol
Oh, I meant the hype, not the coin.

It's been here since I first came to the forums early this year.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: generalizethis on July 29, 2015, 08:07:51 PM
Database testing is going really well--this is what comes before the enterprise level GUI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_software

Crypto Kingdom is moving ahead and beta testing should begin soon: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819073.1580

Risto announced a Finish company will start a Monero investment fund: https://bitcointalk.org/index.phptopic=753252.msg11919024#msg11919024

Those are the big ones, but here is some other stuff: Community funded Developer (there are 29 Devs who have or are working on the coin, one commit happens to be from the current Bitcoin Lead Developer), Peter Todd had some nice things to say about Monero, XMRChina put up a countdown for 8/8 and promised something will happen then (won't give details other than it has to do with China), Chinese translation funded and complete, more translations in the works (Russian, Portuguese, Arabic) though I think those will wait until a few developer and user guides have been added to the main forum, I2p integration progressing nicely, open alias (a Monero innovation) added to electrum core, but i think those are what are driving the hype/hate circle.



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: kekek on July 29, 2015, 08:57:33 PM

Many people who hold XMR will claim that the rise in XMR spam is a result of trolls.

Personally I doubt that. I mean if that was really the case we'd see this kind of thing more often.

To me it seems this troll narrative being pushed forward is similar to the old arguments about Paycoin.

To me it seems you are shilling as good as you can somewhere to up your post-count. Or where comes the urge to post in almost single Monero Fud Thread, but afaik i never seen you in the real ones?

So now you're saying that there are real and fake Monero threads? :P

 Yes it's true I do have a yobit link in my signature, but I'd still be posting in these threads whether or not I had it. Just figured that if I get the chance I  might as well get something out of posting here. (Personally I think yobit is kind of a shitty when compared to other exchanges)

Again I have seen similar arguments at hashtalk when I and many others were calling bullshit on Paycoin. The majority of people defending the coin would deflect conversation away from the coin itself and on to the poster who they disagree with.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: DaveyJones on July 29, 2015, 09:15:59 PM

So now you're saying that there are real and fake Monero threads? :P



Exactly thats what im saying 98% of the community stay in there and discusses healthy... just watch where those others threads come from... people that donīt really have to say anything at all... you can watch their last posts by yourself.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: kekek on July 29, 2015, 09:22:08 PM

So now you're saying that there are real and fake Monero threads? :P



Exactly thats what im saying 98% of the community stay in there and discusses healthy... just watch where those others threads come from... people that donīt really have to say anything at all... you can watch their last posts by yourself.

Except I have, I addressed this in my first post in this thread. To think that people are trolling XMR by spamming threads is just plain stupid, and even if it was the case then that just brings up the question "Why doesn't this happen more often?"

I have looked through the post histories of the people starting threads. Majority typically have an invested interest in XMR, some have been following XMR for up to a year.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: tyz on July 29, 2015, 09:37:06 PM
it seems that it is a coordinated marketing action. otherwise there would not be a reason to talk about it.

Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

The price seems like a fine entry point, it isn't necessarily high considering it's history.




Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: Nxtblg on July 29, 2015, 09:53:28 PM
Many people who hold XMR will claim that the rise in XMR spam is a result of trolls.

Personally I doubt that. I mean if that was really the case we'd see this kind of thing more often.

Yes, but negative plausible deniability is still plausible deniability. ;)


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: Sir Alpha_goy on July 30, 2015, 01:49:09 AM
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Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: smooth on July 30, 2015, 02:23:13 AM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine? 

Yeah that's spamming all right.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: benthach on July 30, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
the hype is by mental sore losers
it's just a shit coin and no point to even make it big


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: BagHolder010 on July 30, 2015, 06:02:05 AM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine? 

Yeah that's spamming all right.


What r u doing here, you're a developer like the other 28 monero developers go do some work it's not about copy paste and a fancy website it's about developing new ideas and implementing that to the coin.
This is you're job not crying here


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: newrad on July 30, 2015, 06:20:27 AM
Monero is the most anonymous currency... PERIOD.

No currency is more anonymous than Monero.... Not even Dash because the government can buy a bunch of Dashcoin and trace the master nodes. This cannot be done with Monero.



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: rdnkjdi on July 30, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
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What r u doing here, you're a developer like the other 28 monero developers go do some work it's not about copy paste and a fancy website it's about developing new ideas and implementing that to the coin.
This is you're job not crying here

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/59194910.jpg


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: astrobitcoin on July 30, 2015, 09:56:28 AM
it is not HYPE, is just SPAM

sudden hype? where are the investments? where are the news? can you link me an article, a recent GREAT story about monero?



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: esoum.1003 on July 30, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
It has a gui wallet, look for MoneroX

if they have the balls to fork a project, then be a man and give it the credit it deserves... don't be a pussy talking bad about your own father.  It's called manners, and gratitude.


omg


Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true?

They are a bunch of thieves that dont understand the tech of the coin they stole, this is fucking hilarious.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: G2M on July 30, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
Huh what's all a this lines of words. Looks like its written in sum kinda code....?

And they do mats and stuff? That's like rly hard n shit.

Too bad I don't udnerstand ne if it.

.....

Right. Nerd. It's just a cryptocurrency in computer code decided by cryptography. You act like its the same technology behind nuclear weapons, or even nuclear fucken power.

Ffs get over yourself it's not all that complicated ya retard.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: smooth on July 30, 2015, 12:07:36 PM
Man you are so wrong, they did not fork Bytecoin, they stole bitmonero from thankful_for_today, the real creator.

Is it true????

No it is not true.

Nobody "stole" bitmonero, it's still there:

https://github.com/bitmonero-project/bitmonero

What was done is forking it, which is what happens when open source projects are run by retards and/or people who behave like retards and who lose the confidence of the community.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: G2M on July 30, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
Oh hum

How to make it right.

That's one thing I still see above all else.

It will be right.

Used to think it was something else, that brought it here.

Now I see that at least too.

And knowing is half the battle :D

In time.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: nextgencoin on July 30, 2015, 01:20:49 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine? 

Yeah that's spamming all right.



you're the only one to comment how obviously lame and fake the OP is. This like a ZOO Keeper throwing a bone to the lions and then all the Monero lions feed on it. Kind of sad....



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 30, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine?  

Yeah that's spamming all right.



you're the only one to comment how obviously lame and fake the OP is. This like a ZOO Keeper throwing a bone to the lions and then all the Monero lions feed on it. Kind of sad....



Umm..I am not a fake sock puppet. I've actually been involved with crypto for a long time



Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: smooth on July 30, 2015, 01:25:59 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine? 

Yeah that's spamming all right.



you're the only one to comment how obviously lame and fake the OP is. This like a ZOO Keeper throwing a bone to the lions and then all the Monero lions feed on it. Kind of sad....



Umm..I am not a fake sock puppet. I've actually been involved with crypto for a long time, I just decided to make a new account that is in sync with my twitter: https://twitter.com/cryptymike

Fair enough, maybe you're not. In that case you accidentally stepped into a shitstorm here with the number of spam threads being created by sock puppets.

Please join us on the XMR speculation thread if you want to talk about trading it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 30, 2015, 01:31:35 PM
Cool thanks. If you notice I hardly even commented on this thread haha, mostly other people just going on. Sorry for this useless thread, idk what I was thinking.  ???


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: Ultros on July 30, 2015, 02:14:23 PM
Here is what happens.

Anti Monero trolls who hate Monero start making stupid "Monero is gonna take over the world"

lovable pro Monero trolls decide it's probably Darkcoin so they start anti Darkcoin threads

All Darkcoin people get pissed at Monero and start anti monero threads.

Random trolls get involved and create new accounts and post random shit with Monero in the title.

It's just this classic pissing contest that happens on occasion that has nothing to do with price. 

Quoted for emphasis...after months and months of the same sheme it's quite sad too see it still works.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 30, 2015, 03:35:17 PM
Monero is the most anonymous currency... PERIOD.

No currency is more anonymous than Monero.... Not even Dash because the government can buy a bunch of Dashcoin and trace the master nodes. This cannot be done with Monero.

Dash's "bad crypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1129446.new)" is even worse than that.  Anyone (Equation Group or Script.Kiddie) who steals a bunch of Dash from an exchange can use them to control Masternodes, vote on stuff, etc.

That's why I only use 100% proof of work coins.


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: newrad on July 30, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
Monero knows DASH is going to go up in price.

They are trying to create duality in anonymity so that they can ride the price wave up.

It's called riding the coat tails.

They did it back in Feb/Mar of this year and they are trying to do it again.

It is the only way it can survive because they tried to force a price on the free market when the coin was introduced.




Dash is traceable by the government. It's not anonymous.

Why would anyone use that as a currency? ??? Especially on the deepwebs.

That's why everyone loves Monero, it's the most anonymous full proof altcoin on the market. 


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: nextgencoin on July 30, 2015, 06:03:28 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine? 

Yeah that's spamming all right.



you're the only one to comment how obviously lame and fake the OP is. This like a ZOO Keeper throwing a bone to the lions and then all the Monero lions feed on it. Kind of sad....



Umm..I am not a fake sock puppet. I've actually been involved with crypto for a long time, I just decided to make a new account that is in sync with my twitter: https://twitter.com/cryptymike




My apologises but you must know how it looks....especially as this section is 50% fake Monero threads.

Check out getgems app and follow them on your twitter, im sure they would love your opinion.

https://twitter.com/getgemsorg?lang=en


Title: Re: Monero - why the sudden hype?
Post by: CryptyMike on July 30, 2015, 06:09:13 PM
Whats up with everyone chatting about XMR right now. I see more and more people speaking about it.

Why are every one of these threads started by a Newbie sock puppet. What's up with that?

Not really, even Smooth the Monero developer is spamming this section with DASH hate thread!

You mean one thread from several months ago collecting the facts of the Dash instamine?  

Yeah that's spamming all right.



you're the only one to comment how obviously lame and fake the OP is. This like a ZOO Keeper throwing a bone to the lions and then all the Monero lions feed on it. Kind of sad....



Umm..I am not a fake sock puppet. I've actually been involved with crypto for a long time, I just decided to make a new account that is in sync with my twitter: https://twitter.com/cryptymike




My apologises but you must know how it looks....especially as this section is 50% fake Monero threads.

Check out getgems app and follow them on your twitter, im sure they would love your opinion.

https://twitter.com/getgemsorg?lang=en

No offense taken! Can I lock this thread or something?