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Title: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: TheIrishman on August 03, 2015, 04:05:57 AM
https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/07/24/handing_over_dollars_picture_via_shutterstock.jpg

Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/rising_and_ongoing_cost_of_windows/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/rising_and_ongoing_cost_of_windows/)

<< Welcome to Microsoft's pay-pay-pay plan. >>


Title: Windows 10 marks the end of Microsoft Windows use forever.
Post by: TECSHARE on August 03, 2015, 05:25:33 AM
Windows 10 marks the end of Microsoft Windows use forever.


-fixed that for you


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: Litejavichu on August 03, 2015, 07:31:19 AM
https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/07/24/handing_over_dollars_picture_via_shutterstock.jpg

Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/rising_and_ongoing_cost_of_windows/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/rising_and_ongoing_cost_of_windows/)

<< Welcome to Microsoft's pay-pay-pay plan. >>
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Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: ObscureBean on August 03, 2015, 08:37:56 AM
Well I'm enjoying Windows 10 for the most part. It's still a little rough around the edges and sadly they've removed a lot of features that I really enjoyed in Win 8.1 but for me the addition of Cortana makes up for its shortcomings. I think having the option to use voice on top of the traditional keyboard and mouse truly adds to the desktop experience. Plus it's still early, I'm sure it'll get a lot better with time. Seriously for those who haven't used it yet, don't knock it until you've tried it  ;)


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: bram_vnl on August 04, 2015, 08:09:27 PM
FUCK 8 AND 10

i love windows 7


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: Borisz on August 04, 2015, 08:21:06 PM
FUCK 8 AND 10

i love windows 7

Let me guess, you like the start menu? Have you tried 8 or 10?

Windows 10 marks the end of Microsoft Windows use forever.


-fixed that for you

Why so much hate? Just curious.


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: mookid on August 04, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
I'm mostly happy with Windows 10. However, i can't bare the lack of some features that were present in previous versions, for example, now we are forced to use windows update and we don't even get basic information like the size  of the updates. The app store is basically useless, etc


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: Timzim103 on August 04, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
I feel right at home on an Ubuntu box. I still use Windows 7 mostly for one silly MMO game I'm too lazy to maintain on Wine.

I'm not a hater though... I enjoyed every version of Windows since 3.0 except for Windows Me and Vista. I'm curious about Windows 10 but hesitate to download it because I suspect if I want to use a word processor once in a while, and a few other apps that might suit my fancy one afternoon in November, I might be tagged with a recurring payment model of some kind. Those could add up. That might work great in the business world, but for a home PC I use once in a while to update my resume and play a few games... nah...


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: commandrix on August 05, 2015, 01:45:22 AM
Not if enough of us just refuse to pay for Windows 10 in the first place and switch to Linux or Mac.


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: Coins168 on August 05, 2015, 01:48:08 AM
Wow your windows is so outdated, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
I'm using Windows 98!  ;D


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: TheIrishman on August 05, 2015, 02:37:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/BfPPqlH.gif

How to uninstall Windows Update KB3035583 – The Windows 10 AKA Squares 10 downloader

http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/ (http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/)



We tried using Windows 10 for real work and... oh, the horror

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/07/windows_10_for_windows_8_and_7_users/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/07/windows_10_for_windows_8_and_7_users/)


Why Microsoft's mobile cancer has ruined Windows 10

http://www.itproportal.com/2015/05/04/why-microsofts-mobile-cancer-ruined-windows-10/ (http://www.itproportal.com/2015/05/04/why-microsofts-mobile-cancer-ruined-windows-10/)


Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/)


Windows 10 Shares Your Wi-Fi With Contacts

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/windows-10-shares-your-wi-fi-with-contacts/ (https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/windows-10-shares-your-wi-fi-with-contacts/)


Windows 10 Home edition may force updates on you

http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-home-edition-may-force-updates/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-home-edition-may-force-updates/)


Fanbois designing Windows 10 – where's it going to end?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/02/microsoft_windows_10_democratic_design_no_thanks/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/02/microsoft_windows_10_democratic_design_no_thanks/)


Mozilla CEO Sends Angry Open Letter To Microsoft Over Changing Windows 10 Browser Defaults

http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/30/pushed-over-the-edge/ (http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/30/pushed-over-the-edge/)


Rolling Back From Windows 10 To Your Older OS Appears Problematic

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-10-revert-os,29727.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-10-revert-os,29727.html)



Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: smoothie on November 22, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Wow your windows is so outdated, Windows 7 and Windows 10?
I'm using Windows 98!  ;D

Wow all of you guys are outdated. I'm using Windows 2000  :D


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: paradoxum on November 22, 2015, 11:21:20 AM
Not if enough of us just refuse to pay for Windows 10 in the first place and switch to Linux or Mac.

Isn't that like running away from a bicycle to end up getting hit by a train  :D


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: onemorexmr on November 22, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
Not if enough of us just refuse to pay for Windows 10 in the first place and switch to Linux or Mac.

Isn't that like running away from a bicycle to end up getting hit by a train  :D

i love my train (gentoo and qubes)
try to beat me with a bicycle ;-)

(though your example is not good... with linux i can go where no windows has ever been [eg filesystem snapshots, working deinstallations, good looking ui (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11137446/conky/Arbeitsfl%C3%A4che%201_001.png) and so on] ;-)


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: paradoxum on November 22, 2015, 11:40:11 AM
Not if enough of us just refuse to pay for Windows 10 in the first place and switch to Linux or Mac.

Isn't that like running away from a bicycle to end up getting hit by a train  :D

i love my train (gentoo and qubes)
try to beat me with a bicycle ;-)

(though your example is not good... with linux i can go where no windows has ever been [eg filesystem snapshots, working deinstallations, good looking ui (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11137446/conky/Arbeitsfl%C3%A4che%201_001.png) and so on] ;-)

It took me 15 years to relinquish my command prompt when I dropped Win 95 and went to xp (having started with Apple Basic and MS DOS and 300 baud modems).  Now I'm supposed to go back to command line again - sorry but this old dog refuses to learn new tricks. Bring on the holoscreens from Minority Report.

For pure work yes Linux/Unix is better but I still think Windows is has it for eye candy.  Good luck trying to get a 9 screen setup elsewhere. Mac can do it as long as you sell a kidney.... or 2.


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: onemorexmr on November 22, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
Not if enough of us just refuse to pay for Windows 10 in the first place and switch to Linux or Mac.

Isn't that like running away from a bicycle to end up getting hit by a train  :D

i love my train (gentoo and qubes)
try to beat me with a bicycle ;-)

(though your example is not good... with linux i can go where no windows has ever been [eg filesystem snapshots, working deinstallations, good looking ui (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11137446/conky/Arbeitsfl%C3%A4che%201_001.png) and so on] ;-)

It took me 15 years to relinquish my command prompt when I dropped Win 95 and went to xp (having started with Apple Basic and MS DOS and 300 baud modems).  Now I'm supposed to go back to command line again - sorry but this old dog refuses to learn new tricks. Bring on the holoscreens from Minority Report.

For pure work yes Linux/Unix is better but I still think Windows is has it for eye candy.  Good luck trying to get a 9 screen setup elsewhere. Mac can do it as long as you sell a kidney.... or 2.

to each his own ;-)
i prefer linux eyecandy over mac and win. and a 9-screen desktop setup is no problem with linux ;-)


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: mm5aes on November 22, 2015, 12:06:30 PM
Given there is now a mandatory user agreement that allows microsoft and the US government to legally snoop on you're computer use without a warrant, I will be staying well away from the latest microsoft products.
Paying daily for the privilege is just obscene  ;)

Of course, installing the latest updates for 7 means you're agreeing to the same snoopers charter. A search with miss google should point you at how to remove the spyware......

As for 8 and 10, for the life of me I can't fathom who would wan't there desktop to look like their 'phone! Saying that, been in the industry since before Gates started, was even microsoft certified at one time, watched him hold back progress ever since  ::)

<-- Disclaimer here  ;D



Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: onemorexmr on November 22, 2015, 12:10:19 PM
Of course, installing the latest updates for 7 means you're agreeing to the same snoopers charter. A search with miss google should point you at how to remove the spyware......


the problem with this is:
  • you have to trust google
  • you have to check again anytime a new updates for the ms spyware arrives

i need ms (well.. at least in a vm with a dedicated gpu) for some dx10+ games (and fallout4). i can live with them spying that machine. but i'd prefer they wouldnt.

but what is with HR departments? or hospitals?


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: paradoxum on November 22, 2015, 12:24:14 PM
Given there is now a mandatory user agreement that allows microsoft and the US government to legally snoop on you're computer use without a warrant, I will be staying well away from the latest microsoft products.
Paying daily for the privilege is just obscene  ;)

Of course, installing the latest updates for 7 means you're agreeing to the same snoopers charter. A search with miss google should point you at how to remove the spyware......

As for 8 and 10, for the life of me I can't fathom who would wan't there desktop to look like their 'phone! Saying that, been in the industry since before Gates started, was even microsoft certified at one time, watched him hold back progress ever since  ::)

<-- Disclaimer here  ;D



Gates helped push computing into schools (look what Jobs wanted at that time on a per system basis from schools). The slouch in MSFT was been Ballmer ran the company headless and let AAPL decide that 4 year old hardware with rounded edges was innovative.  The only thing "different" about AAPL now it the 25 different connectors they use - Firewire, Thunderbolt, Lightning proprietary charging cables (because a micro USB wasn't hipster enough) - they've become the new Sony  :D


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: HeroCat on November 22, 2015, 01:06:20 PM
You can use the previous Windows versions, like Windows 8 - they are much cheaper, and then when will be Windows next version, you can switch to Windows 10. In that way, you can save a lot of money  ;)


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: Himmaysion on November 22, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
I went 3.1 -> 98 -> XP -> 7

all the Windows I'll ever need


Title: Re: Windows 10 marks the end of "pay once, use forever" software
Post by: knightkon on November 22, 2015, 04:07:19 PM
I am sorry, I am not a windows 10 fan.  I like some of the features, but like all initial Microsoft launches, it is riddles with bugs and I do not think it is as secure.  I need to feel secure when using the program and Windows 10 does not do that for me.  Ill stick with Windows 7.