Title: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: acquafredda on August 08, 2015, 01:17:52 PM If you are a bunch of wise bitcoiners you should not definitely upgrade to Windows 10.
For a series of simple reasons: a. it's buggy; b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; c. why it is given for free from a corporation like that? Easy and clean because you're the product for them; d. it has been presented as the best windows ever: it is not; e. cortana is useless. the list goes on and on... Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: LiteCoinGuy on August 08, 2015, 02:39:16 PM exactly my friend. i will wait until the last day (2019?) and buy it...or use my Ubuntu....
thx for that thread. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: acquafredda on August 08, 2015, 02:49:13 PM These are really good reads
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/) http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229 (http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229) Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: 1Referee on August 08, 2015, 02:54:14 PM If you are a bunch of wise bitcoiners you should not definitely upgrade to Windows 10. For a series of simple reasons: a. it's buggy; b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; c. why it is given for free from a corporation like that? Easy and clean because you're the product for them; d. it has been presented as the best windows ever: it is not; e. cortana is useless. the list goes on and on... I will definitely not upgrade windows 7 to windows 10 on my main computer. But I am seriously considering doing it on my laptop which has windows 8.1 installed. I really don't like windows 8 :-X I think I will wait a few more months to let Microsoft implement important bugfixes before I install windows 10. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: kolloh on August 08, 2015, 05:08:47 PM I upgraded and didn't really have any issues. I of course reviewed and changed all the privacy settings.
Here is a guide for the most common settings to change: http://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/ Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: acquafredda on August 08, 2015, 07:29:33 PM If you are a bunch of wise bitcoiners you should not definitely upgrade to Windows 10. For a series of simple reasons: a. it's buggy; b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; c. why it is given for free from a corporation like that? Easy and clean because you're the product for them; d. it has been presented as the best windows ever: it is not; e. cortana is useless. the list goes on and on... I will definitely not upgrade windows 7 to windows 10 on my main computer. But I am seriously considering doing it on my laptop which has windows 8.1 installed. I really don't like windows 8 :-X I think I will wait a few more months to let Microsoft implement important bugfixes before I install windows 10. I am pretty much fine now with windows 8.1. I upgraded to ten and I had to go back. Start was not responsive, I was not able to customize the menu and I found all the crap that uninstalled back (I don't use apps, I do not have a microsoft account and I don't want it). Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: PolarPoint on August 08, 2015, 08:01:23 PM I am planning to clone my windows 7 hard disk on a spare drive, upgrade get the key and then restore my windows 7 system. With the key, I can upgrade to Windows 10 when they have fixed all the bugs. I love my Windows 7 and god knows how many of my apps will stop working if I upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: alva5763 on August 08, 2015, 08:29:45 PM Unless you buy the professional version you cannot choose whether or not to receive updates. These are automatically downloaded. I find that some updates cause problems then have to do a system restore.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: cmthompson22 on August 12, 2015, 02:17:09 AM I did not think the windows 10 has been so bad. I really like how it is laid out and it is much more user friendly than either version of the windows 8. I haven’t had any issues, outside of it started the upload several hours ahead of time and interrupted my work time (with two kids at home, nap time is the only time I really have in order to get some work done). Otherwise I think it is great.
I did not realize they were giving it out for free to everyone. I just got a new computer like a month before this came out so I figured I got it for free because of that close timeline (I had heard somewhere they had done that in the past so figured that was the same for here). I have enjoyed it so far though and feel like it has met the needs that I will be using it for much nicer than some of the other versions of windows. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Xian01 on August 12, 2015, 03:11:32 AM If you are a bunch of wise bitcoiners you should not definitely upgrade to Windows 10. https://i.imgur.com/dMmvMhg.jpg Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: hmblm1245 on August 12, 2015, 04:36:32 AM Just like every Win version to come out got try it somehow. Thanks for the tips on the privacy.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: lottery248 on August 12, 2015, 04:48:39 AM i will agree, i will remain using windows 7 until it vanishes, but my reason is not exactly the same.
windows 10 is limited free, but cannot be sure if the corporation is hiding something important with the windows 10. i cannot see anything really good with windows 10, windows 8 is better than windows 10 for me. unless microsoft announced that the official version of the windows 10, otherwise i would not really wish for windows 10. i don't wanna get trapped by something random. guys in my opinion you'd better remain using either windows vista, 7 or 8. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Ditto on August 12, 2015, 05:06:47 AM unless microsoft announced that the official version of the windows 10, otherwise i would not really wish for windows 10. Not sure what you're trying to say here.Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Lauda on August 12, 2015, 07:01:31 AM a. it's buggy; What are people so afraid of Windows 10?b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; c. why it is given for free from a corporation like that? Easy and clean because you're the product for them; d. it has been presented as the best windows ever: it is not; e. cortana is useless. -snip- 1. It's not buggy, this is dependent on personal experience and the hardware. I haven't encountered a single noticeable bug. 2. Stop using express installation on software and customize it. Turning off everything took less than 30 seconds. 3. That's a good question. 4. It is much better than the previous version. 5. It is useless, I've tried it last night. While I do agree that something is not right with Windows 10, and they have a few policies that are weird, it is much better than 8.1. I've already noticed improvements on my laptop and I've only used it for a hour or so. A issue for me with Windows 10 is that Windows Update and Windows Defender and a few other things such as OneDrive are being forced upon the user. You can't disable Updates nor uninstall OneDrive. You can disable Windows Defender but after a while it turns on again. Windows 7 master race starts? Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: lottery248 on August 12, 2015, 07:04:01 AM unless microsoft announced that the official version of the windows 10, otherwise i would not really wish for windows 10. Not sure what you're trying to say here.Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Lethn on August 12, 2015, 09:21:21 AM I never upgrade to a new windows version right away anyway, precisely because of these kind of problems, you also don't know how good it is until more experienced people have tried it for themselves. I think it must have been a good few years before I was dragged kicking and screaming into Windows 7 and that was because of DirectX and how unfriendly new games were to Windows XP.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: altcoinhosting2 on August 12, 2015, 09:29:54 AM IF you're planning on staying with windows, AND update to 10 (i wouldn't know why, unless you're on a company PC like i am, and the PC team doesn't allow linux), please read this article:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html I couldn't believe it myself, untill i read it on a reputable website... They're actually using your bandwith to dispense updates, unless you explicitly tell them not to >:( Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Powerpuff on August 12, 2015, 09:36:54 AM I think it's always better not to rush to upgrades espesially windows. I would wait until they release service pack 1 with fixes of most of the starter bugs etc..
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: BitMarshall on August 12, 2015, 10:38:34 AM lol
Happy Mac Users :D :D Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Lauda on August 12, 2015, 11:21:33 AM I never upgrade to a new windows version right away anyway, precisely because of these kind of problems, you also don't know how good it is until more experienced people have tried it for themselves. I think it must have been a good few years before I was dragged kicking and screaming into Windows 7 and that was because of DirectX and how unfriendly new games were to Windows XP. Well if you are interested in DirectX then you definitely need to upgrade. I'm pretty sure that we will eventually see games that require DirectX 12 and have no support for lower. I can't blame the developers for this as DirectX 12 is so much better than DirectX 11. Here is a example of the improvement. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900814/tested-directx-12s-potential-performance-leap-is-insane.html)However, I blame MS for not pushing DirectX 12 to Windows 7. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: worldinacoin on August 12, 2015, 11:24:06 AM Knowing Windows, I never upgraded, let those guinea pigs be the first to updates and clear the bugs :)
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Scaccomatt0 on August 12, 2015, 12:30:05 PM If you are a bunch of wise bitcoiners you should not definitely upgrade to Windows 10. thanks for the info freshwater ;)For a series of simple reasons: a. it's buggy; b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; c. why it is given for free from a corporation like that? Easy and clean because you're the product for them; d. it has been presented as the best windows ever: it is not; e. cortana is useless. the list goes on and on... Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: vervolioman on August 12, 2015, 12:33:19 PM To late the computer I brought already had it installed. I have had no "big problems" with it so far but will update if any come up, tell a lie I tried to install ubuntu and it would not let me for some reason. I am looking into it. Advice would be awesome. The file on live disk is working as I tried it on another comp and all was good.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Raeg on August 12, 2015, 03:35:19 PM b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; This is what I don't like about things like this. Everything from computers to apps to social networks all want to know as much info about you as possible so they can either sell it or capitalize on it in some way. The future looks paranoid and claustrophobic to me withe everything tracking and tracing you and not much we can do about it without refusing to use all these things. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: SubversiveTech on August 12, 2015, 05:29:59 PM b. if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows; This is what I don't like about things like this. Everything from computers to apps to social networks all want to know as much info about you as possible so they can either sell it or capitalize on it in some way. The future looks paranoid and claustrophobic to me withe everything tracking and tracing you and not much we can do about it without refusing to use all these things. Everybody can access the internet, more or less, not everyone can manifest it. (Build a laptop, lay data lines, program their operating system...) What do you think is running through the mind of the men and women carrying out these horrific lone wolf attacks? We're giving everybody a window into the universe and then expecting that they can cope with the weight of reality. Every schizophrenic and paranoiac in the world thinks their every keystroke is logged and monitored by their own personal NSA Agent. I have long believed this to be one of the most intricate and tortuous problems facing us as a global society. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Biitcoin on August 12, 2015, 05:54:45 PM I myself upgraded and have no issues at all ,it's faster then 8.1 or any other version and if you know what you are doing you won't have any issues. since they released it on July 29 they made more then one updates for what comes to privacy you can protect your self with some searching and yes i know some of settings are by default and not visible
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Callahan on August 12, 2015, 06:05:12 PM I only found one problem, privacy
Since i updated i feel like a new computer Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Borisz on August 12, 2015, 06:19:27 PM "I hate Microsoft because
"I hate Microsoft because they must be doing some shady business. How else could they give their operating system for free?" What would you like exactly? You don't want to pay, but you don't want not to pay either. IF you're planning on staying with windows, AND update to 10 (i wouldn't know why, unless you're on a company PC like i am, and the PC team doesn't allow linux), please read this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html I couldn't believe it myself, untill i read it on a reputable website... They're actually using your bandwidth to dispense updates, unless you explicitly tell them not to >:( Doesn't bitcoin do the same with its nodes relaying blocks? Don't everyone torrent stuff all the time? Why is it a problem if a legit company does it? Bitcoin is decentralized and called "revolutionary". Microsoft decentralizes upgrade downloads and people call for "disable". Don't get me wrong people, I'm not an admirer of Microsoft I just want to bring a new point of view on this and see what you think. I sometimes feel that people simply hate Microsoft because it is trendy or something. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Dacm4n on August 12, 2015, 06:53:31 PM It's working great on my cheap Asus netbook, it actually runs much better than windows 8.1. But I'll be waiting a while before I put it on my desktop.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: SubversiveTech on August 12, 2015, 09:02:16 PM "I hate Microsoft because they must be doing some shady business. How else could they give their operating system for free?" Ubunutu is "free". Debian, Arch, most every linux OS is free. Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: dload.1 on August 13, 2015, 01:46:29 AM i keep getting a popup to upgrade but havent yet maybe i will wait fora little while after reading this.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Superhitech on August 13, 2015, 04:02:54 AM I updated. Windows 10 actually isn't too bad, it is much better than windows 8 IMO. I haven't come across any major bugs so far, but yes I agree that if you don't revise the privacy settings you'll end up share everything with Windows. Revise the privacy settings, don't share your info.
Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: Borisz on August 13, 2015, 04:17:20 AM "I hate Microsoft because they must be doing some shady business. How else could they give their operating system for free?" Ubunutu is "free". Debian, Arch, most every linux OS is free. That was simply a representation of people's thoughts on the topic generally. Do you use any of the OS you mentioned above? Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: altcoinhosting2 on August 13, 2015, 05:49:53 AM --snip-- IF you're planning on staying with windows, AND update to 10 (i wouldn't know why, unless you're on a company PC like i am, and the PC team doesn't allow linux), please read this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html I couldn't believe it myself, untill i read it on a reputable website... They're actually using your bandwidth to dispense updates, unless you explicitly tell them not to >:( Doesn't bitcoin do the same with its nodes relaying blocks? Don't everyone torrent stuff all the time? Why is it a problem if a legit company does it? Bitcoin is decentralized and called "revolutionary". Microsoft decentralizes upgrade downloads and people call for "disable". --snip-- true... But with bitcoin, it's pretty upfront. You KNOW you'll be relaying blocks when you install the core. When you start µtorrent, you KNOW you'll be sharing the content with others... on the other side, i feel windows is purposely hiding the fact that they'll be using your bandwith to share windows 10 with other people... This might not be an issue for you, but in my country, it's still pretty common to have a bandwith cap. I pay a lot for internet, and i can use about 100 Gb/month... It feels very wrong when a company like microsoft is trying to hide the fact that they'll be using our (very expensive and limited) bandwith without our knowledge.... Yes, i'm aware they're following all the rules, it's probably somewhere in their terms and agreements, there is an option to opt-out.... But still, it's not like they actually take any real action to let you know the fact they'll be using your recources to share their software... Title: Re: Windows 10: do not upgrade Post by: bojan92 on August 14, 2015, 03:17:53 PM From the things i have read about the Windows 10, i changed my mind about updating my Windows 7. I will wait so they can fix the problems with the Windows 10 or i will stay on Windows 7 until they launch another one better than the Windows 10 :)
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