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Title: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: RappelzReborn on August 16, 2015, 10:08:35 AM
If Donald Trump were to win the presidential election, he would deport all undocumented immigrants. Trump said during an interview to be broadcast Sunday on NBC’s "Meet the Press" that “they have to go.”

This would required Trump to rescind President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and undocumented immigrants, which he announced Nov. 20. The orders were put in place to make it easier and faster for immigrants to stay and for the government to deal responsibly with undocumented immigrants who already live in America.

Asked, “You’ll rescind the Dream Act executive order and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals?” Trump replied: “We’re gonna have to. We have to make a whole new set of standards.”

Asked whether he planned on splitting up families and deporting children, Trump replied: “No, we’re going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

When asked what the plan would be if the families had no place to go, Trump said, “We will work with them,” saying they have to leave and “we either have a country, or we don’t have a country.”

What is your opinion on this one my friends  ::)

full article on ibtimes : http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-wants-undocumented-immigrants-out-says-even-families-have-go-2055342


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Daniel91 on August 16, 2015, 10:47:27 AM
In my opinion, Trump is not serious politician but entertainer.
He is a businessman who wished excitement and new challenges and decided to try something different.
Politics is not so simple, black and white, but much more complex and demanding and always seeks consensus and compromise, what Trump does not understand.
In my opinion, Trump is actually a Trojan horse in the Republican ranks, and doing a great thing for his friend Hillary Clinton.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 16, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 16, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: saddampbuh on August 16, 2015, 10:04:51 PM
the usa has been going downhill since it started allowing third world immigration in the 1960s. you are bringing in people with no money, low iqs and high levels of criminality who need to be fed and housed which means higher taxes and rents for working americans. you are being fleeced by the government to support these invaders. why would you want these savages in your country coming to take mcdonalds jobs away from american kids who just left school and unemployed people? there are decent people who migrate to america like trump said but they come with the right papers and bring investment or skills and we aren't talking about those.

of course illegals should be deported but the bleeding hearts will cry about breaking up families and they will probably be allowed to stay and given amnesty. the offspring of illegals should never have been given citizen rights in the first place and that outdated law needs to be looked at.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 16, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
the usa has been going downhill since it started allowing third world immigration in the 1960s. you are bringing in people with no money, low iqs and high levels of criminality who need to be fed and housed which means higher taxes and rents for working americans. you are being fleeced by the government to support these invaders. why would you want these savages in your country coming to take mcdonalds jobs away from american kids who just left school and unemployed people? there are decent people who migrate to america like trump said but they come with the right papers and bring investment or skills and we aren't talking about those.

of course illegals should be deported but the bleeding hearts will cry about breaking up families and they will probably be allowed to stay and given amnesty. the offspring of illegals should never have been given citizen rights in the first place and that outdated law needs to be looked at.
That's correct, and then the illegals can be given work permits, those who are criminals sent back or imprisoned, and things would probably get better.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: saddampbuh on August 16, 2015, 10:27:19 PM
That's correct, and then the illegals can be given work permits, those who are criminals sent back or imprisoned, and things would probably get better.
work permit = another word for amnesty and there are millions of unemployed citizens who need those jobs. why should ANY illegal be allowed to stay? i hear a lot about how removing them is "inhumane" but no actual reason is ever given for why its good for america to have them. don't understand what all the debate is about. in the uk and rest of europe we hate illegal immigrants and 90%  of us want them all removed and the 10% who don't are hardcore communists for a borderless world.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 17, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
That's correct, and then the illegals can be given work permits, those who are criminals sent back or imprisoned, and things would probably get better.
work permit = another word for amnesty and there are millions of unemployed citizens who need those jobs. why should ANY illegal be allowed to stay? i hear a lot about how removing them is "inhumane" but no actual reason is ever given for why its good for america to have them. don't understand what all the debate is about. in the uk and rest of europe we hate illegal immigrants and 90%  of us want them all removed and the 10% who don't are hardcore communists for a borderless world.

Here in the USA "amnesty" is used to mean "give them citizenship", period.

It's a complete farce.  Work permits don't give anyone citizenship.  

That's the difference I meant.  

As for the why, first of all, here, you couldn't send them all back.  A lot of them have no place to go back to.  People would complain about it, make it politically infeasable.  

So work permits, I'd give them out, but they'd have to show a passport and have a background check.  Those that had a criminal past would be kicked out, along with other undesirables.  For example, people with tuberculosis are not allowed in the USA - but they get in as illegals and stay.

So the main point is NO AMNESTY - NO FREE CITIZENSHIP, but if you want to work, you can.  I guess you could say this is sort of practical and pragmatic, not what I'd want in an ideal world.



Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: saddampbuh on August 17, 2015, 06:09:31 PM
Here in the USA "amnesty" is used to mean "give them citizenship", period.

It's a complete farce.  Work permits don't give anyone citizenship.  

That's the difference I meant.  

As for the why, first of all, here, you couldn't send them all back.  A lot of them have no place to go back to.  People would complain about it, make it politically infeasable.  

So work permits, I'd give them out, but they'd have to show a passport and have a background check.  Those that had a criminal past would be kicked out, along with other undesirables.  For example, people with tuberculosis are not allowed in the USA - but they get in as illegals and stay.

So the main point is NO AMNESTY - NO FREE CITIZENSHIP, but if you want to work, you can.  I guess you could say this is sort of practical and pragmatic, not what I'd want in an ideal world.
if they have passports obviously there's somewhere to send them back to. you send them back to the country that issued the passport.

the question was why is it good for america to let the illegals stay, not why is it difficult to remove them. i know why its difficult. people are pussies and don't want to be called racist or inhumane. show them a crying kid being separated from its parents and they'll want to let them all stay. its not unfeasible if you all stop being cowards and elect trump so he can issue orders and penalise so called sanctuary cities like faggot san francisco who defy the law. it can be done but you need to stop being squeamish about it. this is probably the last chance to fix things based on known demographic trends and voting patterns with the usa being on course to become a third world country within most of your lifetimes.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Possum577 on August 17, 2015, 07:00:48 PM
This isn't an awful idea. It's the hard ass move, it would require a cold heart to enforce this and the uproar would be a circus for months. Literally finding people in the US and exporting them all would be a wicked "manhunt". It would, however reduce the burden on services, open up tons of mostly blue collar jobs for people to work, increase wages for those blue collar jobs (possibly), and have an indirect effect on prices. With fewer people buying every day things prices may have to go up for corporations to maintain their existing revenue levels.

It's akin to someone saying "no new debt" for a Country until the existing debt is paid off. It would be really, really painful but might put the country in a better place once it was all said and done.

I'm 100% against illegal immigration.

I'm also very much against Trump's arrogance and cheap brand. The guy isn't an idiot, he's an asshole. He doesn't deserve to represent a Country.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Harry Hood on August 17, 2015, 07:10:24 PM
That's correct, and then the illegals can be given work permits, those who are criminals sent back or imprisoned, and things would probably get better.

This would work, but the problem is Trump being able to deliver on his campaign promises. Didn't Obama promise to close Guantanamo? Whatever happened to that promise? Nothing, he couldn't do it...he made a promise he couldn't keep. Trump can do the same thing. He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.

I have no confidence in this guy at all.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 17, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
...

I'm also very much against Trump's Obama's arrogance and cheap brand. The guy isn't an idiot, he's an asshole. He doesn't deserve to represent a Country.
Fixed it.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 17, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
By giving the anchor babies papers all they did was feed the enemy. Type "mecha de aztlan" in google images.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: rokkyroad on August 17, 2015, 09:48:55 PM
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He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.


Exactly what every politician does to get elected. Lying pricks.



Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: countryfree on August 17, 2015, 11:25:47 PM
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He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.


Exactly what every politician does to get elected. Lying pricks.



Exactly what I'm thinking. He should give numbers. How many illegals in the US right now? How much would it cost to move them out? Who will do it? It's easy to speak but when you're talking of over one million people, you need more than a few words, you need a plan and a budget (both large and detailed). Otherwise, it's BS.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: otrkid70 on August 17, 2015, 11:53:53 PM
I have to agree with Trump.  I have seen first hand Illegals getting Full tuition,Medical Insurance,Government Handouts Food Stamps,Welfare Housing Etc.

I had to Scrimp scrounge and pinch every god damn penny i could to get my daughter into College While a person who walks over the border gets it handed to them......I can't afford Full Insurance i don't get free handouts No free Tuition for my Kids......Screw that! Trump has some solid plans and i like his Ideas with Low Quality Chinese Slave products Flooding the country.

I will vote for him....the Country is in the worst shape i have ever seen.  It's about time we have a President with a set of Real Balls that will turn the country around.    2016 Can't come fast enough


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 04:08:54 AM
Quote
He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.


Exactly what every politician does to get elected. Lying pricks.



Exactly what I'm thinking. He should give numbers. How many illegals in the US right now? How much would it cost to move them out? Who will do it? It's easy to speak but when you're talking of over one million people, you need more than a few words, you need a plan and a budget (both large and detailed). Otherwise, it's BS.

If they just actually enforce the laws rather than turning a blind eye to the illegal criminals theyll leave themselves when they can't get a job or the other priviledges


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 18, 2015, 04:11:57 AM
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He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.


Exactly what every politician does to get elected. Lying pricks.



Exactly what I'm thinking. He should give numbers. How many illegals in the US right now? How much would it cost to move them out? Who will do it? It's easy to speak but when you're talking of over one million people, you need more than a few words, you need a plan and a budget (both large and detailed). Otherwise, it's BS.

If they just actually enforce the laws rather than turning a blind eye to the illegal criminals theyll leave themselves when they can't get a job or the other priviledges
There's no abstract or fuzzy "they."  There's Obama, following the orders of George Soros and his shit "open borders" ideas.  There's Obama's active disregard of the rule of law.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 04:16:11 AM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.

Its ridiculous to include any other countries in the debate. All other countries have very small population. Only mexico is doing an invasion and only mexico has treasonous "Aztlan" organizations because only mexico is the aztec country.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 18, 2015, 03:56:15 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.

Its ridiculous to include any other countries in the debate. All other countries have very small population. Only mexico is doing an invasion and only mexico has treasonous "Aztlan" organizations because only mexico is the aztec country.
Not really true, latest is Central and South American immigrants coming up through Mexico.  They blackmail us by controlling (or not) their southern border, hence creating their "special status."

Also I'm seeing a huge increase in North African immigration, plus Chinese mainland.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Wilikon on August 18, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.

Its ridiculous to include any other countries in the debate. All other countries have very small population. Only mexico is doing an invasion and only mexico has treasonous "Aztlan" organizations because only mexico is the aztec country.
Not really true, latest is Central and South American immigrants coming up through Mexico.  They blackmail us by controlling (or not) their southern border, hence creating their "special status."

Also I'm seeing a huge increase in North African immigration, plus Chinese mainland.


Thank you Cartels...




Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 07:03:05 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.

Its ridiculous to include any other countries in the debate. All other countries have very small population. Only mexico is doing an invasion and only mexico has treasonous "Aztlan" organizations because only mexico is the aztec country.
Not really true, latest is Central and South American immigrants coming up through Mexico.  They blackmail us by controlling (or not) their southern border, hence creating their "special status."

Also I'm seeing a huge increase in North African immigration, plus Chinese mainland.

Oh yea that is bullshit. Until the population of any other single group near even 50% of the population of the mexicans then mexicans are the largest group of invaders. Mexicans make up 35% of the population in the southwest while any other group is in the single digits.

Who has the treasonous militant organizations openly? google mecha de aztlan. Google nuestra familia.  Who has a history of war and conflict over land with the us? Who has done the greatest mass ethnic cleansing killings in history?


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Wilikon on August 18, 2015, 07:23:46 PM
If Donald Trump were to win the presidential election, he would deport all undocumented immigrants. Trump said during an interview to be broadcast Sunday on NBC’s "Meet the Press" that “they have to go.”

This would required Trump to rescind President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and undocumented immigrants, which he announced Nov. 20. The orders were put in place to make it easier and faster for immigrants to stay and for the government to deal responsibly with undocumented immigrants who already live in America.

Asked, “You’ll rescind the Dream Act executive order and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals?” Trump replied: “We’re gonna have to. We have to make a whole new set of standards.”

Asked whether he planned on splitting up families and deporting children, Trump replied: “No, we’re going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

When asked what the plan would be if the families had no place to go, Trump said, “We will work with them,” saying they have to leave and “we either have a country, or we don’t have a country.”

What is your opinion on this one my friends  ::)

full article on ibtimes : http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-wants-undocumented-immigrants-out-says-even-families-have-go-2055342


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/must-see-black-woman-rips-council-over-illegal-aliens/

This is an amazing video. Is the black community waking up at last?





Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 08:20:22 PM
If Donald Trump were to win the presidential election, he would deport all undocumented immigrants. Trump said during an interview to be broadcast Sunday on NBC’s "Meet the Press" that “they have to go.”

This would required Trump to rescind President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and undocumented immigrants, which he announced Nov. 20. The orders were put in place to make it easier and faster for immigrants to stay and for the government to deal responsibly with undocumented immigrants who already live in America.

Asked, “You’ll rescind the Dream Act executive order and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals?” Trump replied: “We’re gonna have to. We have to make a whole new set of standards.”

Asked whether he planned on splitting up families and deporting children, Trump replied: “No, we’re going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

When asked what the plan would be if the families had no place to go, Trump said, “We will work with them,” saying they have to leave and “we either have a country, or we don’t have a country.”

What is your opinion on this one my friends  ::)

full article on ibtimes : http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-wants-undocumented-immigrants-out-says-even-families-have-go-2055342


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/must-see-black-woman-rips-council-over-illegal-aliens/

This is an amazing video. Is the black community waking up at last?





This woman is a patriot hero. Look at the city council, it's been taken over by mexicans. Once mexicans take over an institution they run everyone else off and dont allow anyone not of their race "la raza" in. Why is 100% of the council mexican? mexicans arent 100% of los angeles.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Wilikon on August 18, 2015, 08:32:44 PM
If Donald Trump were to win the presidential election, he would deport all undocumented immigrants. Trump said during an interview to be broadcast Sunday on NBC’s "Meet the Press" that “they have to go.”

This would required Trump to rescind President Obama’s executive orders on immigration and undocumented immigrants, which he announced Nov. 20. The orders were put in place to make it easier and faster for immigrants to stay and for the government to deal responsibly with undocumented immigrants who already live in America.

Asked, “You’ll rescind the Dream Act executive order and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals?” Trump replied: “We’re gonna have to. We have to make a whole new set of standards.”

Asked whether he planned on splitting up families and deporting children, Trump replied: “No, we’re going to keep the families together. We have to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

When asked what the plan would be if the families had no place to go, Trump said, “We will work with them,” saying they have to leave and “we either have a country, or we don’t have a country.”

What is your opinion on this one my friends  ::)

full article on ibtimes : http://www.ibtimes.com/trump-wants-undocumented-immigrants-out-says-even-families-have-go-2055342


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/must-see-black-woman-rips-council-over-illegal-aliens/

This is an amazing video. Is the black community waking up at last?





This woman is a patriot hero. Look at the city council, it's been taken over by mexicans. Once mexicans take over an institution they run everyone else off and dont allow anyone not of their race "la raza" in. Why is 100% of the council mexican? mexicans arent 100% of los angeles.


I don't know how far Trump will go but thanks to him the genie is out of the bottle... If, at least you had the same political attitude in mexico. Put some illegal US gringos at city councils...

 8)



Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 08:37:22 PM
You think there's any foreigners in office in Mexico? Even legal nonmexicans in mexico are not allowed by mexican law to protest peacefully on the street. Foreigners in mexico are not even allowed to build refuges. Recently a mexican official said that their obligations are with the mexican people not foreigners therefore illegal inmigrant refuges for illegals in mexico would not be allowed.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: BADecker on August 18, 2015, 09:05:02 PM
The advantage would be that more blacks and whites would be working at the Super-Salad's. Sanitation would be better.

Of course, the blacks and whites would end up in more slavery that way.

:)


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 18, 2015, 09:22:56 PM
I support Trump. If the illegals are allowed to stay, then what is the point in having all those legislation and laws? A highly skilled legal immigrant (who will be paying tens of thousands of USD every year in taxes) have to go through a frustrating legal process, and in most cases have to wait for years to get a chance to legally immigrate to the US. At the same time, an illiterate Mexican can just cross the border, earn money by taking part in drug smuggling, pay not a penny in taxes to the US authorities, and can produce a dozen anchor babies in the American soil without any issues.

The question really is of permitting or not permitting "special pleading" for Mexico and areas south.

Its ridiculous to include any other countries in the debate. All other countries have very small population. Only mexico is doing an invasion and only mexico has treasonous "Aztlan" organizations because only mexico is the aztec country.
Not really true, latest is Central and South American immigrants coming up through Mexico.  They blackmail us by controlling (or not) their southern border, hence creating their "special status."

Also I'm seeing a huge increase in North African immigration, plus Chinese mainland.

Oh yea that is bullshit. Until the population of any other single group near even 50% of the population of the mexicans then mexicans are the largest group of invaders. Mexicans make up 35% of the population in the southwest while any other group is in the single digits.....
Basically we agree, but the other immigrant groups are also problematic.  Depends a bit on where you are, likely.

Around here you'd have to distinguish between native American Hispanic, naturalized American Hispanic, legal Mexican, and illegal Mexican to make a coherent argument.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: otrkid70 on August 18, 2015, 10:10:23 PM
I don't think that anyone who was NOT born here should be able to run for any public office. This Includes that Worthless president we have now.

Trump all the way.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: otrkid70 on August 18, 2015, 10:16:40 PM
You think there's any foreigners in office in Mexico? Even legal nonmexicans in mexico are not allowed by mexican law to protest peacefully on the street. Foreigners in mexico are not even allowed to build refuges. Recently a mexican official said that their obligations are with the mexican people not foreigners therefore illegal inmigrant refuges for illegals in mexico would not be allowed.

This should apply here in the U.S. Also.  I don't think i can go to any country in the world and run for Office as a Foreigner.

As far as the Families go i do feel bad and i believe any Mexican child born in the U.S. should have FULL rights as i do. But if your an illegal you need to follow the Process to become a Citizen it's that simple.  Mexico would throw my ass on the first northbound broken ole ass Donkey if i had no papers or i might end up in a Mexican prison with a Burrito in my ass.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Panzzer on August 18, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
That's correct, and then the illegals can be given work permits, those who are criminals sent back or imprisoned, and things would probably get better.

This would work, but the problem is Trump being able to deliver on his campaign promises. Didn't Obama promise to close Guantanamo? Whatever happened to that promise? Nothing, he couldn't do it...he made a promise he couldn't keep. Trump can do the same thing. He can make grand, sweeping promises that a lot of people will go for but that he can never deliver on.

I have no confidence in this guy at all.

Obama is controlled by his backers while Trump control his own. If Obamas backer says no he can't do anything big difference.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: cheetahman333 on August 18, 2015, 11:45:53 PM
You think there's any foreigners in office in Mexico? Even legal nonmexicans in mexico are not allowed by mexican law to protest peacefully on the street. Foreigners in mexico are not even allowed to build refuges. Recently a mexican official said that their obligations are with the mexican people not foreigners therefore illegal inmigrant refuges for illegals in mexico would not be allowed.

This should apply here in the U.S. Also.  I don't think i can go to any country in the world and run for Office as a Foreigner.

As far as the Families go i do feel bad and i believe any Mexican child born in the U.S. should have FULL rights as i do. But if your an illegal you need to follow the Process to become a Citizen it's that simple.  Mexico would throw my ass on the first northbound broken ole ass Donkey if i had no papers or i might end up in a Mexican prison with a Burrito in my ass.

an illegal mexican should totally break into the country, pop out their baby, and have the baby get full rights.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 18, 2015, 11:50:46 PM
You think there's any foreigners in office in Mexico? Even legal nonmexicans in mexico are not allowed by mexican law to protest peacefully on the street. Foreigners in mexico are not even allowed to build refuges. Recently a mexican official said that their obligations are with the mexican people not foreigners therefore illegal inmigrant refuges for illegals in mexico would not be allowed.

This should apply here in the U.S. Also.  I don't think i can go to any country in the world and run for Office as a Foreigner.

As far as the Families go i do feel bad and i believe any Mexican child born in the U.S. should have FULL rights as i do. But if your an illegal you need to follow the Process to become a Citizen it's that simple.  Mexico would throw my ass on the first northbound broken ole ass Donkey if i had no papers or i might end up in a Mexican prison with a Burrito in my ass.

Look, let me explain just a bit of all this.

Mexico and it's culture operate on a very different set of rules - often, ignore the law, pay the bribes, get by okay.  Mexicans come here and do many useful things and learn our culture, but increasingly the effort is to bring the sickness of their culture here.   So they don't worry our care about "breaking the law."

Those are big generalizations, sure.  But where we have a big problem is Obama's completely ignoring the safety of the US and indiscriminately letting "them all in," and ignoring the laws on the books completely.  Let's not "blame the Mexicans" when we need to blame Mr. Barrack.  Creating a bunch of division and animosity is the game he plays.

All Trump is and has been saying is let's follow the laws we have, as I understand it. Congress can change them anytime.  But we've got a problem from a President ran amok and thinking he can do anything he wants, regardless of good and bad consequences.  It does appear this is strictly to increase the likely-Democratic voter count.

This division, hostility, animosity Barrack Obama wants, and Trump called him on it. 


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Wilikon on August 19, 2015, 03:58:20 AM
You think there's any foreigners in office in Mexico? Even legal nonmexicans in mexico are not allowed by mexican law to protest peacefully on the street. Foreigners in mexico are not even allowed to build refuges. Recently a mexican official said that their obligations are with the mexican people not foreigners therefore illegal inmigrant refuges for illegals in mexico would not be allowed.

This should apply here in the U.S. Also.  I don't think i can go to any country in the world and run for Office as a Foreigner.

As far as the Families go i do feel bad and i believe any Mexican child born in the U.S. should have FULL rights as i do. But if your an illegal you need to follow the Process to become a Citizen it's that simple.  Mexico would throw my ass on the first northbound broken ole ass Donkey if i had no papers or i might end up in a Mexican prison with a Burrito in my ass.

Look, let me explain just a bit of all this.

Mexico and it's culture operate on a very different set of rules - often, ignore the law, pay the bribes, get by okay.  Mexicans come here and do many useful things and learn our culture, but increasingly the effort is to bring the sickness of their culture here.   So they don't worry our care about "breaking the law."

Those are big generalizations, sure.  But where we have a big problem is Obama's completely ignoring the safety of the US and indiscriminately letting "them all in," and ignoring the laws on the books completely.  Let's not "blame the Mexicans" when we need to blame Mr. Barrack.  Creating a bunch of division and animosity is the game he plays.

All Trump is and has been saying is let's follow the laws we have, as I understand it. Congress can change them anytime.  But we've got a problem from a President ran amok and thinking he can do anything he wants, regardless of good and bad consequences.  It does appear this is strictly to increase the likely-Democratic voter count.

This division, hostility, animosity Barrack Obama wants, and Trump called him on it. 


Giuliani was right: 0bama hates America



Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: Spendulus on August 19, 2015, 05:26:24 AM

an illegal mexican should totally break into the country, pop out their baby, and have the baby get full rights.
Yes, this is unfair, we agree on that.  It should have been stopped long ago.  Note this does not even have to be an "illegal mexican," it can be a Mexican with a passport and two weeks off from work in Monterrey.


Title: Re: Trump Wants Undocumented Immigrants Out, Says Even Families 'Have To Go'
Post by: BADecker on August 19, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
I don't think that anyone who was NOT born here should be able to run for any public office. This Includes that Worthless president we have now.

Trump all the way.

On the other hand, some of the most wicked, cleverest a**h***s in the world come from here.

:)