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Title: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on August 17, 2015, 09:02:49 PM

Tired of dice?
Come and test our new Roulette app!
roulett.oshi.xyz is now sat.oshi.xyz (https://sat.oshi.xyz)!!!

sat.oshi.xyz(BETA) (https://sat.oshi.xyz), the first MoneyPot App to offer roulette is now FEATURED ON MONEYPOT!


Official strategy thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166164)

https://i.imgur.com/MzbQu0Q.png (https://sat.oshi.xyz)



At sat.toshi.xyz, we believe in offering the lowest house edge possible and hence, we have redesigned the payout table to offer the best odds possible to reward loyal players.

As a start, we chose the standard European Roulette table with a single 0 and a base house edge of 2.70%.

But that is still too high, so to offer you a house edge as low as 0.27%, we have devised a tiered bonus system based on your average bets.

For every bet outcome that lands on 0, a bonus from 10% to 90% of all bets on the table will be paid back to you. You won't find similar payouts anywhere else on the internet!


Bonus tier
Average Bet = Total wagered amount on site/Total bet count on site

0: 0%
1-100: 10%
101-150: 15%
151-200: 20%
201-350: 25%
351-500: 30%
501-750: 40%
751-1000: 50%
1001-1500: 60%
1501-2000: 70%
2001-5000: 80%
>5000: 90%


Payouts:
  • Single number bets: 35:1
  • Split bets(2 numbers): 17:1
  • Corner bets(4 numbers): 8:1
  • Dozen bets: 2:1
  • Hi,Lo,Red,Black,Odd,Even: 1:1

More features to come!

MoneyPot Page: https://www.moneypot.com/apps/529

Update:
Style fixes and some bug fixes.
Added "clear chips" button
Added a notification and sound for the chat
Began work on the "bet stats" section. So far, only "my bets" history is partially done. Do expect that section to show much more when it is complete.
Let me know if there are any bugs that you encountered.

Disclaimer: this is a work in progress and may not represent the finished product upon launch. At this point of time, this site is not "officially launched" and bugs are expected. As always, only deposit what you are willing to lose. Any and all suggestions are welcome.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.toshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: trafficolaa on August 17, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
So good to see first roulette app powered by moneypot, you should move this topic to gambling section instead of games and rounds because that is main announcement thread, good luck for this cool and nice looking app.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.toshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: amiryaqot on August 17, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/4fy5vs.png

Chat tab need to get fixed it is not working properly and showing something strange as that site is in beta mode so i hope it will be get fixed soon and will be at right place there, layout is nice and cool with simple UI.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.toshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: AFK on August 17, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
Good job and i have same problem in chat tab.
goodluck for your new sites :D


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.toshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 17, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2LqTKvm.png

Thanks for the feedback, fixed the chat ;)


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: RHavar on August 17, 2015, 11:30:57 PM
Wow, great to see a roulette site launch! Well done, it's looking very slick. There's a few little minor issues around the place, but I'd love to add this as a featured app.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: Buziss on August 17, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
But that is still too high, so to offer you a house edge as low as 0.27%, we have devised a tiered bonus system based on your average bets.

Average bets? Wouldn't it be a better idea to use total wagered instead? After all, your target is to get as much bitcoin wagered on your app as possible.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: masterzino on August 18, 2015, 12:10:49 AM
nice app! and the best is powered by moneypot. now only blackjack powered by moneypot is missing. bonus is great addition with it house edge varies from 0.27% to 2.7  clear all chips from table feature is missing


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 18, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
It's got all possible bets except streets, lines and splits with the 0. What gives with that?


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 12:47:41 AM
Wow, great to see a roulette site launch! Well done, it's looking very slick. There's a few little minor issues around the place, but I'd love to add this as a featured app.

Thanks Ryan ;) Great to hear that :D I'm definitely looking forward to it being featured ;)



But that is still too high, so to offer you a house edge as low as 0.27%, we have devised a tiered bonus system based on your average bets.

Average bets? Wouldn't it be a better idea to use total wagered instead? After all, your target is to get as much bitcoin wagered on your app as possible.


Yeah, thanks for the suggestion. I'm actually considering implementing a level system based on the product of (i x total bets) + (j x total wagered).
Also, I'm working on implementing some of the essential basic features first like faucet etc.


It's got all possible bets except streets, lines and splits with the 0. What gives with that?

I've been meaning to do it but I keep getting occupied with the other stuffs. Don't worry though, they'll be added soon(what is roulette without the complete set of bets ;D )

nice app! and the best is powered by moneypot. now only blackjack powered by moneypot is missing. bonus is great addition with it house edge varies from 0.27% to 2.7  clear all chips from table feature is missing

Thanks mate ;) Thanks for the suggestion, I can't believe I left that out >< Anyway, regarding blackjack, I think that the MoneyPot API can't support it currently, I'm not too sure of the details, best leave it to Ryan for the explanation.


Anyway, I'll probably need to get someone to help me with this site to ensure the development and growth progress smoothly. So if anyone is interested, just PM me.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: jerowacik on August 18, 2015, 12:50:05 AM
interesting.. i will try this dice. possible beet to winning some bitcoin.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: Shogen on August 18, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
interesting.. i will try this dice. possible beet to winning some bitcoin.

Have you spent 10 seconds to check the site or check the content of the thread? This site offers roulette game only.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 18, 2015, 01:37:00 AM
interesting.. i will try this dice. possible beet to winning some bitcoin.

Have you spent 10 seconds to check the site or check the content of the thread? This site offers roulette game only.

Obvious sig spammer is obvious.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: fox19891989 on August 18, 2015, 04:33:33 AM
Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude  ;D

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:08:29 AM
Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude  ;D

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: PvP on August 18, 2015, 06:38:41 AM
Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude  ;D

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.

it would be nice to know the house edge in detail with every bet I place.

still many bet possibilities missing


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 06:59:26 AM
Hit 0 to get 10%-90% reward back is innovative, good way to reduce the house edge, dude  ;D

But how to calculate 0.27% house edge? You mean we get 90% back? If I get 10% return, it is not 0.27%.

Formula for house edge is ((1−bonus)×100)÷37 where bonus is 0.1(10%) to 0.9(90%). I will reveal the tier levels later today but do take note that this is not the final tier levels as I'm figuring out a way to better implement this bonus system to reward loyal players.

it would be nice to know the house edge in detail with every bet I place.

still many bet possibilities missing

There is a notification beside your username showing your bonus level. But I'll add more details soon under the stats tab.

Yes, I'm aware of the few bet possibilities that are missing and will be working on adding them soon


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: WEBcreator on August 18, 2015, 07:40:58 AM
Why dont you put a usual roullete wheel on your site? I think some roulette animation would be a good addition to it . Are you the same owner of quantumdice before?  ???


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: AFK on August 18, 2015, 08:09:21 AM
Why dont you put a usual roullete wheel on your site? I think some roulette animation would be a good addition to it . Are you the same owner of quantumdice before?  ???
yeah wheel add to roullete is good idea,i think bryankek is owner qdice


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FanEagle on August 18, 2015, 09:54:11 AM
An a bit of sound of rolling ball would be good aswell ::)


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: clixcoin on August 18, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 10:18:57 AM
Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?

It doesnt actually matter though because all your balance is connected to all application in Moneypot. This is a bit inconvenience but for the meantime you can go to the other and claim the faucet, withdraw the bits from the apps and deposit it to this site for tryout



Found few funky things :

#1  There are no clear chip button, you might want to add that

#2  You can put more chip than your balance but you cant spin it and it will show

Code:
NOT_ENOUGH_BALANCE

Now the funny part is that after you click OK there, you cant put more chip on the table or discard the chip ( since there are no clear chip button ), all you can do will be to refresh the page which is pretty inconvenience

#3  The "user list" is kinda screwed, Im using firefox btw


#4  When trying to open the page using chrome, I got this error instead

Code:
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 11:10:16 AM
Hi all, i'm on my mobile now so I wont be replying specifically to each comments. But I will address the issues mentioned.

Firstly, yes, I'm the former owner of Quantum Dice. Quantum Dice is now under the management of Rmcdermott927. I sold the site to him due to personal commitments. This site is a side project I've been working on for quite some time. My personal commitments with my job still remains so do expect some delay or slow support until I find more help and team members(pm if interested). But as for now, I will try my best to support and develop the site when I have the free time to.

Next, regarding the faucet, clear chip buttons and other essential buttons, I will be adding them when I have the time to update.

Also, in case some of you might not be aware, the right mouse click decrease the bet for each chip and clears when it is 0.

Also, regarding the rendering issues, thanks for all the feedback. I appreciate it and I'll try to fix them first before anything else


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 11:15:45 AM
Nice and sleek design but no faucet like other powered by moneypot, you have any plan to add faucet in future?

It doesnt actually matter though because all your balance is connected to all application in Moneypot. This is a bit inconvenience but for the meantime you can go to the other and claim the faucet, withdraw the bits from the apps and deposit it to this site for tryout



Found few funky things :

#1  There are no clear chip button, you might want to add that

#2  You can put more chip than your balance but you cant spin it and it will show

Code:
NOT_ENOUGH_BALANCE

Now the funny part is that after you click OK there, you cant put more chip on the table or discard the chip ( since there are no clear chip button ), all you can do will be to refresh the page which is pretty inconvenience

#3  The "user list" is kinda screwed, Im using firefox btw


#4  When trying to open the page using chrome, I got this error instead

Code:
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. :(

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 11:53:15 AM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ndnh on August 18, 2015, 12:06:57 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 03:43:42 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 ;)


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: elm on August 18, 2015, 04:56:29 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 ;)

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears ???


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 18, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 ;)

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears ???

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: elm on August 18, 2015, 05:35:00 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 ;)

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears ???

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets

totally confused here. please lets try to clear first one important point. if a user hits the Zero or 0 as you call it
no one can hit the same time number 1 as in your example and a bet of 1000 bits on a single number 1 can't be paid out with 900 bits

what did I miss here?

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.
1000 bits on red should pay 1000 bits IMHO





Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 18, 2015, 05:51:35 PM
Wow, ndnhc hit the 90% bonus tier level. BTW, on a side note, I'm envious of your moneypot gambling stats. All green ;)

LOL, thanks. :D

Wanted to check whether betting on 0 had a positive EV. ;D
It doesn't. same edge.

Yeah, lowest edge at the moment is still 0.27% with the bonus of 90% on outcome 0 ;)

let me see if I understand this. the regular HE is 2.75% but if I will hit the zero the HE will be 0.27%
am I wrong?

and how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears ???

No, that's wrong. European roulette with the standard rules have a house edge of 2.70%.

The variant offered at Roulett.oshi.XYZ has an additional rule: every time the ball lands on 0, a bonus(0%-90% depending on your average bet size for all bets on the site) of the total wagered amount for all bets for thar particular spin will be paid.

So, regardless of the bets, whether it is inside bets or outside bets, the house edge is always fixed between 0.27%-2.7% depending on your bonus level(0%-90%).

I hope that clears things up. Do let me know if I left out anything

A few case examples using a bonus of 90% where the ball lands on 0:

I bet 1000 bits on number 1. Payout will be 900bits

I bet 1000 bits each on numbers 1,2,3 with a total wager of 3000 bits. Payout will be 2700 bits.

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.

You'll see that the bonus payout for the 0 outcome is always bonus x total wagered for that particular spin regardless of the type of bets

totally confused here. please lets try to clear first one important point. if a user hits the Zero or 0 as you call it
no one can hit the same time number 1 as in your example and a bet of 1000 bits on a single number 1 can't be paid out with 900 bits

what did I miss here?

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.
1000 bits on red should pay 1000 bits IMHO





I hope the OP is kidding about a 2 to 1 bet not paying 2 to 1. Even odd, red black and high low should always pay double what we bet! Always!

All the bets should pay out exactly what they are meant to. The players shouldn't have to win less for a bonus. How is it a bonus when we are paying for it? Make that optional. I want my bets to pay out fully!


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: arallmuus on August 18, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
-snip-

#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

Ahh my fault for this, didnt notice this. Kinda akward that I missed in this in the "how to play" pop up

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. :(

This only is actually in accordance to the first one though I cant find the clear chip button ( didnt notice you could use the right click for that ) but the funky part would be after the error I cant put more chip in it nor can I remove the chip with right click button and the only thing to fix this would be to refresh my page which for me is pretty weird and inconvenience ( is the same thing happen to you ?  ??? )

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?

Isnt it suppose to be 35:1 payout if you bet on 1 number and hit it?


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 18, 2015, 07:13:45 PM
-snip-

#1 Right click and it will decrease by the chip value. 0 if it goes below that.

Ahh my fault for this, didnt notice this. Kinda akward that I missed in this in the "how to play" pop up

#2 Kind of sees something like that in every app. For Betterbets, if I deposit 0.1, reload balance, withdraw it, I can still make it bet but the error shows up. :(

This only is actually in accordance to the first one though I cant find the clear chip button ( didnt notice you could use the right click for that ) but the funky part would be after the error I cant put more chip in it nor can I remove the chip with right click button and the only thing to fix this would be to refresh my page which for me is pretty weird and inconvenience ( is the same thing happen to you ?  ??? )

#5 I am not sure what happens if my bet is on 0 and it rolls 0?

Isnt it suppose to be 35:1 payout if you bet on 1 number and hit it?

There are 36 numbers before the 0 so 36:1 actually.


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 19, 2015, 02:37:30 AM

totally confused here. please lets try to clear first one important point. if a user hits the Zero or 0 as you call it
no one can hit the same time number 1 as in your example and a bet of 1000 bits on a single number 1 can't be paid out with 900 bits

what did I miss here?

I bet 1000 bits on red. Payout will be 900 bits.
1000 bits on red should pay 1000 bits IMHO


You completely misunderstand me. Another example, assuming bonus is 90%

You bet 1000 bits on "1".
If it lands on "1", you get paid 35000 bits + your 1000 bits wager back(35:1).
If it lands on anything else, you lose your wager of 1000 bits.
If it lands on "0" you get 90% of your wager back which is 900 bits.

You bet 1000 bits on "0".
If it lands on "0", you get paid 35000 bits + your 1000 bits wager back(35:1) + 90% bonus of your wager of 900 bits
If it lands on anything else, you lose your wager of 1000 bits.

You bet 1000 bits on "0" and "1"
If it lands on "0", you get paid 35000 bits + your 1000 bits wager back(35:1) + 90% bonus of your wager of 900 bits and lose the 1000 bits wagered on "1".
If it lands on "1", you get paid 35000 bits + your 1000 bits wager back(35:1)
If it lands on anything else, you lose your wager of 1000 bits on "0" and "1"


I hope the OP is kidding about a 2 to 1 bet not paying 2 to 1. Even odd, red black and high low should always pay double what we bet! Always!

All the bets should pay out exactly what they are meant to. The players shouldn't have to win less for a bonus. How is it a bonus when we are paying for it? Make that optional. I want my bets to pay out fully!

Refer to the answer above. You're completely misunderstanding me.
You're not getting paid less for each bet on a win.
in fact, you get paid more if you bet on 0 and it lands on '0'.
You also lose less when you bet on something other than '0' but it lands on '0'.

Isnt it suppose to be 35:1 payout if you bet on 1 number and hit it?

There are 36 numbers before the 0 so 36:1 actually.

Arallmuus is right, it is 35:1. 35:1 means getting paid 35x your wager + your wager back. To simplify it, it is equivalent to x36.
But in the case of betting on 0, if your bonus is 90%, the payout odds are 35.9:1


Anyway regarding the bonus, the tier info is as follow:

averageBet = total wagered amount on site/total bet count on site

0: 0%
1-100: 10%
101-150: 15%
151-200: 20%
201-350: 25%
351-500: 30%
501-750: 40%
751-1000: 50%
1001-1500: 60%
1501-2000: 70%
2001-5000: 80%
>5000: 90%


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: elm on August 19, 2015, 08:16:15 AM

 how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears

I bet 1000 bits on black and the 0 is rolled  what happens now regarding payment?


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: Shogen on August 19, 2015, 08:46:08 AM
I know I can reduce my bet unit by unit with right click, but I think it would be much more convenient if there is a "clear" and a "double" button.


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 19, 2015, 08:49:39 AM

 how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears

I bet 1000 bits on black and the 0 is rolled  what happens now regarding payment?

Assuming you are at 90% bonus. You lose the 1000 bits you bet on black because zero is neither black nor red. But you get paid 90% of 1000 bits = 900 bits.

I know I can reduce my bet unit by unit with right click, but I think it would be much more convenient if there is a "clear" and a "double" button.
Thanks for the feedback. Those buttons will be added soon when I get some time off work.


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 19, 2015, 08:50:06 AM
I understand now. Thanks for explaining! That sounds really cool!


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: elm on August 19, 2015, 09:07:52 AM

 how do you handle the outside bets like red/black - even/odd - low/high  in case the zero appears

I bet 1000 bits on black and the 0 is rolled  what happens now regarding payment?

Assuming you are at 90% bonus. You lose the 1000 bits you bet on black because zero is neither black nor red. But you get paid 90% of 1000 bits = 900 bits.


that would mean I lose 100 bits in case the 0 is rolled and I have 1000 bits on black?


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 19, 2015, 05:20:30 PM
that would mean I lose 100 bits in case the 0 is rolled and I have 1000 bits on black?

Yes, as opposed to losing 1000 bits in conventional European roulette


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
Hi guys. How is everyone today ;)


Title: Re: [TEASER][PRELAUNCH] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: katerniko1 on August 20, 2015, 03:10:34 PM

#4  When trying to open the page using chrome, I got this error instead

Code:
ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
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are you using xp windows?


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 05:02:40 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ndnh on August 20, 2015, 05:08:25 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 05:28:23 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.

Yeah, real sorry about that :D


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ndnh on August 20, 2015, 05:42:18 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.

Yeah, real sorry about that :D

np. I had no issues with balance or anything. Just the visual figure. Only I wondered whether the EV could be that positive, lol. :D

Edit: Not fixed yet.
Now it shows:
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits


The profit should be 3570 bits only.


Edit: I made 2 50k bets instead of 5k twice and lost. :(
Shouldn't have deposited all my balance..


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: tsoPANos on August 20, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
The website looks simple yet attractive. It has a lot of potential for improvement though.
The provably fair system is welcome, and it doesn't require flash player which I am not a fan of.
(Some casinos require that adobe crapware)
I hope the admin will keep his effort and not abandon that promising project.


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 06:18:29 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.

Yeah, real sorry about that :D

np. I had no issues with balance or anything. Just the visual figure. Only I wondered whether the EV could be that positive, lol. :D

Edit: Not fixed yet.
Now it shows:
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits


The profit should be 3570 bits only.


Edit: I made 2 50k bets instead of 5k twice and lost. :(
Shouldn't have deposited all my balance..


Sorry to hear that, kinda sad to see red in your stat page now.
Anyway, what number was this for?
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits

The website looks simple yet attractive. It has a lot of potential for improvement though.
The provably fair system is welcome, and it doesn't require flash player which I am not a fan of.
(Some casinos require that adobe crapware)
I hope the admin will keep his effort and not abandon that promising project.

thanks


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ndnh on August 20, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.

Yeah, real sorry about that :D

np. I had no issues with balance or anything. Just the visual figure. Only I wondered whether the EV could be that positive, lol. :D

Edit: Not fixed yet.
Now it shows:
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits


The profit should be 3570 bits only.


Edit: I made 2 50k bets instead of 5k twice and lost. :(
Shouldn't have deposited all my balance..


Sorry to hear that, kinda sad to see red in your stat page now.
Anyway, what number was this for?
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits

For a 100 bit bet at 0. Roll was 0.

Made back my 100k bits loss. :D


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 06:45:24 PM
Just noticed a bug, when outcome lands on 0, the profit displayed under the outcome is in satoshis, not bits. Will fix it soon

That is probably what got me confused, lol. :)

I did get a huge number at the top, but net profit was still negative.

Yeah, real sorry about that :D

np. I had no issues with balance or anything. Just the visual figure. Only I wondered whether the EV could be that positive, lol. :D

Edit: Not fixed yet.
Now it shows:
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits


The profit should be 3570 bits only.


Edit: I made 2 50k bets instead of 5k twice and lost. :(
Shouldn't have deposited all my balance..


Sorry to hear that, kinda sad to see red in your stat page now.
Anyway, what number was this for?
Profit
10500.00 bits
Loss
-0.00 bits
Net
3570.00 bits

For a 100 bit bet at 0. Roll was 0.

Made back my 100k bits loss. :D

should be fixed now, along with some css and style edits. Anyway, only one explanation for that, you're a wizard :D


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ChrisPop on August 20, 2015, 07:16:45 PM
I would love to see statistics and history of last 5-10 rolled numbers in the roulette. ;)


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 20, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
I would love to see statistics and history of last 5-10 rolled numbers in the roulette. ;)

Yeah, I'm working on that ;) Do expect it to be up within the next week or so :D


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ranlo on August 21, 2015, 12:49:42 AM
It would be cool if you could make this social, as well, like a real casino. Gives it a lot more value as it helps build a community. For example, have the rolls happen every minute, and allow players to chat and make wagers on a collective board.


Title: Re: [PRELAUNCH TEASER] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 21, 2015, 01:53:40 AM
It would be cool if you could make this social, as well, like a real casino. Gives it a lot more value as it helps build a community. For example, have the rolls happen every minute, and allow players to chat and make wagers on a collective board.

That would definitely be cool. But not at the moment, moneypot API doesn't support that currently. Another way to do it would be to tip a 3rd party account owned by me to make a collective bet, but that solution isn't elegant. I might however try to implement it after all the other features are complete and bug free. That way, users can choose between single player mode or social mode.


Title: Re: [FEATURED ON MONEY] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: ranlo on August 21, 2015, 01:58:09 AM
It would be cool if you could make this social, as well, like a real casino. Gives it a lot more value as it helps build a community. For example, have the rolls happen every minute, and allow players to chat and make wagers on a collective board.

That would definitely be cool. But not at the moment, moneypot API doesn't support that currently. Another way to do it would be to tip a 3rd party account owned by me to make a collective bet, but that solution isn't elegant. I might however try to implement it after all the other features are complete and bug free. That way, users can choose between single player mode or social mode.

Tipping a bot may work as well, if you can do it silently (i.e., if I'm on the social board and I bet on 22, it would look like I just made the bet, but behind the scenes all the real magic would happen). That said, I'll be following the project, :).


Title: Re: [FEATURED ON MONEY] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 21, 2015, 02:05:45 AM
It would be cool if you could make this social, as well, like a real casino. Gives it a lot more value as it helps build a community. For example, have the rolls happen every minute, and allow players to chat and make wagers on a collective board.

That would definitely be cool. But not at the moment, moneypot API doesn't support that currently. Another way to do it would be to tip a 3rd party account owned by me to make a collective bet, but that solution isn't elegant. I might however try to implement it after all the other features are complete and bug free. That way, users can choose between single player mode or social mode.

Tipping a bot may work as well, if you can do it silently (i.e., if I'm on the social board and I bet on 22, it would look like I just made the bet, but behind the scenes all the real magic would happen). That said, I'll be following the project, :).

Yeah, I meant something like that ;) thanks for your continued support :)


Title: Re: [MONEYPOT FEATURED APP] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 21, 2015, 03:37:20 PM
Hi guys, in case you haven't noticed, we are now featured on moneypot.


Title: Re: [MONEYPOT FEATURED APP] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: srgkrgkj on August 22, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
Hi guys, in case you haven't noticed, we are now featured on moneypot.

yup congrats on that btw mate moneypot is getting bigger and bigger and the platform will be good for the site too :D


Title: Re: [MONEYPOT FEATURED APP] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 23, 2015, 04:48:00 PM
Hi guys, in case you haven't noticed, we are now featured on moneypot.

yup congrats on that btw mate moneypot is getting bigger and bigger and the platform will be good for the site too :D

Thank you. I hope you had a great time


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: joksim299 on August 25, 2015, 01:08:06 AM
Nice app! The bonus system is really innovative and a good feature.
There are few things I do not like ugly number animation. I do not have a feeling of playing roulette without wheel and domain is hard to remember.
Can you make history and shortcuts for series?

https://i.imgur.com/mKPse5c.png
https://i.imgur.com/dEPrI3F.png?1


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: Dannie on August 25, 2015, 02:08:26 AM
Agree. Adding an animation and some sound effects would make it much more fun to play. The domain isn't an issue to me though, as I always go to Moneypot first and then go to the apps page.


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: nickaizoku on August 25, 2015, 02:51:25 AM
Agree. Adding an animation and some sound effects would make it much more fun to play. The domain isn't an issue to me though, as I always go to Moneypot first and then go to the apps page.
and adding history also nice,
anyhow good job admin here, its very simple and beautiful UI, look forward for official release :D


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 25, 2015, 02:04:01 PM
Thanks for the kind comments guys. The feedback have been noted and will be considered ;)


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 26, 2015, 02:12:55 AM
Hi guys, just did a very small update yesterday night.
A summary of what is done:
-bug fixes.
-Added "clear chips" button
-Added a notification and sound for the chat
-Began work on the "bet stats" section. So far, only "my bets" history is partially done. Do expect that section to show much more when it is complete.

Let me know if you encounter any issues


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 26, 2015, 03:42:56 PM
Its been quiet these few days. Where is everybody? :)


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: eternalgloom on August 27, 2015, 03:47:29 PM
Pretty nice website you've got there and I had been waiting to see some roulette with Moneypot.


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 27, 2015, 07:22:45 PM
Lines, streets and zero mixed bets still needed for me to really play here. Also how about the possibility of instant spins?


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 27, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
Lines, streets and zero mixed bets still needed for me to really play here. Also how about the possibility of instant spins?

what do you mean with instant spins?


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FrozenOne on August 27, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
Lines, streets and zero mixed bets still needed for me to really play here. Also how about the possibility of instant spins?

what do you mean with instant spins?

You hit spin and no spinning animations. Instant result.


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FanEagle on August 27, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
Actually the number spins, it's not istant, most of the times.


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 27, 2015, 08:03:00 PM
Lines, streets and zero mixed bets still needed for me to really play here. Also how about the possibility of instant spins?

what do you mean with instant spins?

You hit spin and no spinning animations. Instant result.

oh you you dont want this spinning action just one immediate number = result?

yes this could be a nice option to add


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 27, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
All comments have been noted. So much to do, so little time :( bear with me though, it'll definitely be implemented :)


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 28, 2015, 10:31:20 PM
Bump


Title: Re: [Moneypot Featured] Roulett.oshi.XYZ - Roulette /w edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 29, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Lines, streets and zero mixed bets still needed for me to really play here. Also how about the possibility of instant spins?

Come check the site out now, the additional bet options have been added.

Roulett.oshi.XYZ currently support all possible roulette bets ;)

I've also added a mini history section beside the outcome panel.

BTW, I need help from players, if anything doesn't seem right anywhere, take a screenshot and let me know :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MoneyPot featured roulette app with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 30, 2015, 05:19:14 AM
Official strategy thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166164)

Do share your strategies for winning at roulette ;)

We have also moved to sat.oshi.xyz (https://sat.oshi.xyz/)
simpler URL, more elegant ;)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MoneyPot featured roulette app with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: FanEagle on August 30, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
nice name change! at least now it's simpler to remember.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MoneyPot featured roulette app with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 30, 2015, 04:21:10 PM
nice name change! at least now it's simpler to remember.

Yeah, the old name is kinda lengthy.

Anyway, a small announcement.
Do come over to https://sat.oshi.xyz to play now ;) I'll be online, do expect a small giveaway to happen :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MoneyPot featured roulette app with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: srgkrgkj on August 30, 2015, 05:07:50 PM
I love roulette overall coming just behind blackjack for me and this site has done it justice lol congrats OP on the amazing site :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MoneyPot featured roulette app with house edge as low as 0.27%
Post by: bryankek on August 30, 2015, 05:26:51 PM
I love roulette overall coming just behind blackjack for me and this site has done it justice lol congrats OP on the amazing site :D

Thanks. I'm glad you like it. Hope you have a great game ;)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on August 31, 2015, 02:09:04 AM
If you see me on the chat say hi ;) I'll probably tip you some bits to test the site out :)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 01, 2015, 03:55:09 AM
Hi guys ;) come play roulette with house edge as low as 0.27% at https://sat.oshi.xyz


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: FanEagle on September 01, 2015, 06:53:21 AM
yeah, come over and let's have some fun!
But you know what it would be amazing? a social roulette, with a timer, and then the roulette spins.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 01, 2015, 11:57:37 AM
yeah, come over and let's have some fun!
But you know what it would be amazing? a social roulette, with a timer, and then the roulette spins.

I know right ;) let me brush up my skills first, and then I'll work on that :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: patt0 on September 01, 2015, 02:07:41 PM
It would be nice if you had those "auto-bets" like "voisin du zero" etc
I like to use them when I pay roulette and it's boring to set the betting stakes manually.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: shanem on September 01, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
This is great as it is the first time I have seen a bonus return when the result is 0.
This will lower the house edge for roulette by a lot if you bet a lot.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 01, 2015, 04:40:04 PM
It would be nice if you had those "auto-bets" like "voisin du zero" etc
I like to use them when I pay roulette and it's boring to set the betting stakes manually.

In not too familiar with voisin du zero. Would appreciate it if you could enlighten me :)

This is great as it is the first time I have seen a bonus return when the result is 0.
This will lower the house edge for roulette by a lot if you bet a lot.

Thanks ;)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: joksim299 on September 01, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
It would be nice if you had those "auto-bets" like "voisin du zero" etc
I like to use them when I pay roulette and it's boring to set the betting stakes manually.

In not too familiar with voisin du zero. Would appreciate it if you could enlighten me :)



I asked same qestion few post above.

This may help:
http://roulettesystem-elite.de/Roulette%20Regeln/Kessel.gif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette#Called_.28or_call.29_bets_or_announced_bets


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 01, 2015, 06:16:01 PM
It would be nice if you had those "auto-bets" like "voisin du zero" etc
I like to use them when I pay roulette and it's boring to set the betting stakes manually.

In not too familiar with voisin du zero. Would appreciate it if you could enlighten me :)



I asked same qestion few post above.

This may help:
http://roulettesystem-elite.de/Roulette%20Regeln/Kessel.gif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette#Called_.28or_call.29_bets_or_announced_bets

Thanks ;) that was informative. But strategies like voisin du zero would only work in real life casinos. Provably fair online roulette's number is completely random with no correlation at all to the wheel.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 02, 2015, 12:42:13 AM
Thanks, hope you have a good day ;)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: redditisforhippies on September 02, 2015, 01:31:46 AM
"they" are already trying to sell the site... nice way to show your appreciation to your users giving you ideas, admin.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 02, 2015, 06:10:03 AM
I fail to see your flawed logic


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 02, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
Come and play at roulette at https://sat.oshi.xyz :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: redditisforhippies on September 02, 2015, 05:24:34 PM
I fail to see your flawed logic

not once in your auction did you mention you wanted your existing users treated right by the new owner. in fact, you did not even mention them. your users did not help you so you could make a quick buck off them.

see the 'logic' now?


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 02, 2015, 07:38:05 PM
I fail to see your flawed logic

not once in your auction did you mention you wanted your existing users treated right by the new owner. in fact, you did not even mention them. your users did not help you so you could make a quick buck off them.

see the 'logic' now?

FYI, I am in no way making any "quick bucks" off anyone through this decision. Get it?

Every satoshi I earn are commissions I earn for bringing users to play against MoneyPot's investor bankroll and is paid by MoneyPot.
Every satoshi I earn from the sale of any site I have sold or will sell is hard earned through countless hours of coding and late nights.
 
While I do value the opinions and suggestions of my users, this has absolutely nothing to do at all with the decision to put this site on auction.
I reward them through other means. If you're a regular user on my site, you'll definitely know that I frequently tip users who are online when I'm online. I also offer ways for users to make bets with lower house edge(FYI, this is actually not in my best interest, I make more in commission if the house edge is higher). I think this is more than fair. I'm operating a gambling app after all, not a charity.

Every decision I make or will ever make will be in the best interest for the site and its potential customers.

Of course there will be some vetting done first before the sale of the site. But there is no need to tell the new owner to treat the users right. He has to. If he doesn't treat them right, no one will play at the site. That means he earns nothing. It is in his BEST INTEREST to treat the users RIGHT.

You can't just expect to pop up out of the blue and throw false accusations my way.

I'm sorry you feel that way though. Have a nice day.




Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: redditisforhippies on September 02, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
I fail to see your flawed logic

not once in your auction did you mention you wanted your existing users treated right by the new owner. in fact, you did not even mention them. your users did not help you so you could make a quick buck off them.

see the 'logic' now?

FYI, I am in no way making any "quick bucks" off anyone through this decision. Get it?

Every satoshi I earn are commissions I earn for bringing users to play against MoneyPot's investor bankroll and is paid by MoneyPot.
Every satoshi I earn from the sale of any site I have sold or will sell is hard earned through countless hours of coding and late nights.
 
While I do value the opinions and suggestions of my users, this has absolutely nothing to do at all with the decision to put this site on auction.
I reward them through other means. If you're a regular user on my site, you'll definitely know that I frequently tip users who are online when I'm online. I also offer ways for users to make bets with lower house edge(FYI, this is actually not in my best interest, I make more in commission if the house edge is higher). I think this is more than fair. I'm operating a gambling app after all, not a charity.

Every decision I make or will ever make will be in the best interest for the site and its potential customers.

Of course there will be some vetting done first before the sale of the site. But there is no need to tell the new owner to treat the users right. He has to. If he doesn't treat them right, no one will play at the site. That means he earns nothing. It is in his BEST INTEREST to treat the users RIGHT.

You can't just expect to pop up out of the blue and throw false accusations my way.

I'm sorry you feel that way though. Have a nice day.



this is moneypot. i did not know this. i was just mainly worried users who have a balance with you would not get honored by the new owner. however, this will not happen as again, moneypot.

i should have done more research, sorry. if you want me to delete my posts just give me the word.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 02, 2015, 10:25:18 PM
I fail to see your flawed logic

not once in your auction did you mention you wanted your existing users treated right by the new owner. in fact, you did not even mention them. your users did not help you so you could make a quick buck off them.

see the 'logic' now?

FYI, I am in no way making any "quick bucks" off anyone through this decision. Get it?

Every satoshi I earn are commissions I earn for bringing users to play against MoneyPot's investor bankroll and is paid by MoneyPot.
Every satoshi I earn from the sale of any site I have sold or will sell is hard earned through countless hours of coding and late nights.
 
While I do value the opinions and suggestions of my users, this has absolutely nothing to do at all with the decision to put this site on auction.
I reward them through other means. If you're a regular user on my site, you'll definitely know that I frequently tip users who are online when I'm online. I also offer ways for users to make bets with lower house edge(FYI, this is actually not in my best interest, I make more in commission if the house edge is higher). I think this is more than fair. I'm operating a gambling app after all, not a charity.

Every decision I make or will ever make will be in the best interest for the site and its potential customers.

Of course there will be some vetting done first before the sale of the site. But there is no need to tell the new owner to treat the users right. He has to. If he doesn't treat them right, no one will play at the site. That means he earns nothing. It is in his BEST INTEREST to treat the users RIGHT.

You can't just expect to pop up out of the blue and throw false accusations my way.

I'm sorry you feel that way though. Have a nice day.



this is moneypot. i did not know this. i was just mainly worried users who have a balance with you would not get honored by the new owner. however, this will not happen as again, moneypot.

i should have done more research, sorry. if you want me to delete my posts just give me the word.

Its okay, just leave it here on the thread. Should be a good reference for other people.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 03, 2015, 02:37:36 AM
Announcement:

To deliver the best experience possible to our users, sat.oshi.xyz (https://sat.oshi.xyz) is now under the joint management of Rmcdermott927 and I.

He is the main partner and will be handling the community, promotions and business end of things.
I'll be staying on as a silent partner and developer.



Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 03, 2015, 04:49:25 PM
Announcement:

To deliver the best experience possible to our users, sat.oshi.xyz (https://sat.oshi.xyz) is now under the joint management of Rmcdermott927 and I.

He is the main partner and will be handling the community, promotions and business end of things.
I'll be staying on as a silent partner and developer.



Lots of things on the horizon.  Stay tuned for a lot of changes and updates over the coming weeks.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: vendetahome on September 03, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
the house edge is really low as for roulette i guess i will have to try it out lets hope i will be really lucky to win at least something


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 03, 2015, 07:48:58 PM
the house edge is really low as for roulette i guess i will have to try it out lets hope i will be really lucky to win at least something

I hope you do.  As a matter of fact, our players have one more than they have lost.  Just check the stats on moneypot.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 04, 2015, 03:24:30 PM
Hi guys, come and play at https://sat.oshi.xyz :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: ChrisPop on September 06, 2015, 09:36:06 AM
I noticed a serious bug on the site. After every spin I need to refresh the page in order that my winnings to show and to be able to make another spin. You should solve this asap OP.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 06, 2015, 11:19:49 AM
I noticed a serious bug on the site. After every spin I need to refresh the page in order that my winnings to show and to be able to make another spin. You should solve this asap OP.

Thans for the feedback. You're the first user to complain of this issue. None of the other users had any similar problem. May you give more details. For example, what browser are you using? A screenshot would be helpful too.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: ChrisPop on September 06, 2015, 11:32:39 AM
I'm using Chrome latest version. Here is a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/pXRTBWA.png

As you can see the "SPIN" button is "freezing" so I cannot click on it anymore and the winnings or loses aren't showing just after I refresh the page. Also the BET STATS feature is blank even after playing several spins.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: joksim299 on September 06, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
I'm using Chrome latest version. Here is a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/pXRTBWA.png

As you can see the "SPIN" button is "freezing" so I cannot click on it anymore and the winnings or loses aren't showing just after I refresh the page. Also the BET STATS feature is blank even after playing several spins.

Bets are dynamic they do not store them in the database after refresh there is no history, bet stats or predefined bet.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 06, 2015, 01:10:51 PM
I'm using Chrome latest version. Here is a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/pXRTBWA.png

As you can see the "SPIN" button is "freezing" so I cannot click on it anymore and the winnings or loses aren't showing just after I refresh the page. Also the BET STATS feature is blank even after playing several spins.

Hmm, thats strange. Can you copy and paste the output from you chrome dev console and pm me? Thanks


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: ChrisPop on September 06, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
I have just came back from my grandparents and checked the site. Now there is no problem. Everything is working smoothly so far. Have you modified something in the code or it has simply started to work as it is supposed?


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 06, 2015, 09:35:52 PM
I have just came back from my grandparents and checked the site. Now there is no problem. Everything is working smoothly so far. Have you modified something in the code or it has simply started to work as it is supposed?

I was experiencing the same issue last night, it may have just been a lag on our host or a lag in receiving data from MP.    But as you said, it seems fine now.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 06, 2015, 10:18:38 PM
I have just came back from my grandparents and checked the site. Now there is no problem. Everything is working smoothly so far. Have you modified something in the code or it has simply started to work as it is supposed?

I was experiencing the same issue last night, it may have just been a lag on our host or a lag in receiving data from MP.    But as you said, it seems fine now.

Great to hear everything is fine now


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 09, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
Come play at on of the luckiest apps on moneypot:

Bets   23,858
Wagered   160,022,365 bits
Bets Profit   -3,069,957.70 bits (-1.92%)
Expected Profit   604,160.89 bits (0.38%)


Yes, thats right, there has been more won than lost on https://sat.oshi.xyz (https://sat.oshi.xyz)


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: FanEagle on September 09, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Come over and play people, the roulette is waiting for you


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Monopoly on September 09, 2015, 04:52:30 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 09, 2015, 05:03:06 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Pony789 on September 09, 2015, 05:18:02 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

I have used your site 3 times this and last week, and I have not seen any downtime. Maybe he has your old domain roulett.toshi.xyz in bookmark?


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: BTCevo on September 09, 2015, 06:00:44 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

Nope there is no problem with the connection. But sometimes if moneypot is find something wrong may be it will down until the things is fixed, you can check moneypot site too to check whether it is online or not


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 09, 2015, 07:02:45 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

I have used your site 3 times this and last week, and I have not seen any downtime. Maybe he has your old domain roulett.toshi.xyz in bookmark?

Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

Nope there is no problem with the connection. But sometimes if moneypot is find something wrong may be it will down until the things is fixed, you can check moneypot site too to check whether it is online or not

If anything is not working, try a hard refresh first, CTRL +F5. If that doesn't fix it, check other moneypot apps. If the other apps are fine, then please contact me, I'll have a look and see what the issue is.

Anyway sorry guys for the slow update and inactivity. I've been occupied with other projects and I'm also out of town.

Still, come over and play at https://sat.oshi.xyz/ If you see me online, say hi, I'll tip you some :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: FrozenOne on September 11, 2015, 09:43:48 PM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

I have used your site 3 times this and last week, and I have not seen any downtime. Maybe he has your old domain roulett.toshi.xyz in bookmark?

Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

Nope there is no problem with the connection. But sometimes if moneypot is find something wrong may be it will down until the things is fixed, you can check moneypot site too to check whether it is online or not

If anything is not working, try a hard refresh first, CTRL +F5. If that doesn't fix it, check other moneypot apps. If the other apps are fine, then please contact me, I'll have a look and see what the issue is.

Anyway sorry guys for the slow update and inactivity. I've been occupied with other projects and I'm also out of town.

Still, come over and play at https://sat.oshi.xyz/ If you see me online, say hi, I'll tip you some :D

The site is fucked up. Rolling completes about 25% and takes almost a full minute or longer to complete the roll. This is insane! I loved this game and now this happens!


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 12, 2015, 04:40:56 AM
Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

I have used your site 3 times this and last week, and I have not seen any downtime. Maybe he has your old domain roulett.toshi.xyz in bookmark?

Your site most of time is offline  ... you must try to fix it ....... but Great site i like that and of course low house edge is encourage

The site is offline? Is there any connection issue? I'm not aware of any downtime. If you have any problem connecting, do let me know

Nope there is no problem with the connection. But sometimes if moneypot is find something wrong may be it will down until the things is fixed, you can check moneypot site too to check whether it is online or not

If anything is not working, try a hard refresh first, CTRL +F5. If that doesn't fix it, check other moneypot apps. If the other apps are fine, then please contact me, I'll have a look and see what the issue is.

Anyway sorry guys for the slow update and inactivity. I've been occupied with other projects and I'm also out of town.

Still, come over and play at https://sat.oshi.xyz/ If you see me online, say hi, I'll tip you some :D

The site is fucked up. Rolling completes about 25% and takes almost a full minute or longer to complete the roll. This is insane! I loved this game and now this happens!

I will be switching the servers in the next day or two.   Sorry for the inconvenience.   Try on firefox, I was having better luck with that.

EDIT: Moved everything over to a pretty diesel server.   Seems fine now.  Please clear your cache and try now.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 12, 2015, 04:35:29 PM
hey guys, come over and play now :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 15, 2015, 09:02:04 PM
Come down and give it a shot, I made 5x my money yesterday.   The table is hot.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: bryankek on September 16, 2015, 08:29:50 PM
I know its been awhile. But here is a screenshot from a work in progress :D Spinning wheels and all :D

https://i.imgur.com/T6OsDim.png


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: joksim299 on September 16, 2015, 09:05:21 PM
I know its been awhile. But here is a screenshot from a work in progress :D Spinning wheels and all :D

https://i.imgur.com/T6OsDim.png

Looks very good!


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Shogen on September 17, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
The screenshot looks good, except that it is a bit odd to see the green background covers only part of the wheel. Either you make the green background bigger to include the wheel in its region, or you make it smaller and put the wheel on another background. Two examples I found on google:

http://www.casinogamespro.com/media/other/european_roulette_table_layout.png    http://teachyourselfroulette.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/roulette-table-layout.jpg


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on September 17, 2015, 04:14:45 PM
The screenshot looks good, except that it is a bit odd to see the green background covers only part of the wheel. Either you make the green background bigger to include the wheel in its region, or you make it smaller and put the wheel on another background. Two examples I found on google:

http://www.casinogamespro.com/media/other/european_roulette_table_layout.png    http://teachyourselfroulette.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/roulette-table-layout.jpg

Thanks Shogen.   I like the one on the right too.    But I think more of a contrasting color in the "my bets" tab would suffice.  Maybe red?


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: ranlo on September 21, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
The screenshot looks good, except that it is a bit odd to see the green background covers only part of the wheel. Either you make the green background bigger to include the wheel in its region, or you make it smaller and put the wheel on another background. Two examples I found on google:

http://www.casinogamespro.com/media/other/european_roulette_table_layout.png    http://teachyourselfroulette.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/roulette-table-layout.jpg

Thanks Shogen.   I like the one on the right too.    But I think more of a contrasting color in the "my bets" tab would suffice.  Maybe red?

I'm more for the one on the right as well. It helps keep a feel of separation between areas of the board. In your other image you posted, the alternative would be to split it so that the wheel is half on and half off the green. It just looks weird being at like 65%/35%.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: FrozenOne on September 21, 2015, 02:38:13 AM
Don't force us to have to see the wheel if we don't want to. I, for one, will stop playing at this site if I can't play without the wheel once it is added. Just saying.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: angelakay124 on September 21, 2015, 02:44:18 AM
I like the design at the right but as other also has commented about the contrast of green background. I also find it little irritating and the table at the right is also somewhat similar to mytrafficvalue table but they have good graphics. Try to look at their table color option to make little improvement.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: ranlo on September 21, 2015, 03:44:42 AM
Don't force us to have to see the wheel if we don't want to. I, for one, will stop playing at this site if I can't play without the wheel once it is added. Just saying.

If you're just playing for the dice aspect, why not do a dice site instead?


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: FrozenOne on September 22, 2015, 02:18:59 AM
Don't force us to have to see the wheel if we don't want to. I, for one, will stop playing at this site if I can't play without the wheel once it is added. Just saying.

If you're just playing for the dice aspect, why not do a dice site instead?

But it's not dice. It's still roulette. I just like how it is without the wheel. It's rather simple, really. Put in the wheel, but have an option to remove it and play the site as it is now. How is that hard? It shouldn't be hard.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on October 29, 2015, 02:27:48 AM
Come on down and play guys!   Our site is at negative house profit, meaning users have won more than they have lost.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: twister on March 15, 2016, 03:41:25 PM
I had some time to kill today and felt like playing some roulette and landed up on your app and its good, I only played for a very little time and stake but I will definitely play again more. Don't see muchany activity there but I think not a lot many people know of it, so maybe you guys should start some marketing and promotions.


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: JasonXG on March 29, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
Cool !! I like this. It seems way more fair so i'll give it a go for sure.  :D


Title: Re: sat.oshi.xyz - MP featured roulette app - 0.27% edge.
Post by: JasonXG on March 31, 2016, 05:39:32 PM
You seem to be on the ball, very nice open large layout using the whole screen, very nice. Chat and nice bonuses.

My favourite part is this "For every bet outcome that lands on 0, a bonus from 10% to 90% of all bets on the table will be paid back to you. You won't find similar payouts anywhere else on the internet!"