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The campaign runners have been getting away with lowering the rates WHILE the price of BTC has been on a downtrend since forever.
I think it's safe to say they should be raising their rates. The campaigns paying 0.010 per post or something like that, should raise to a decent 0.013 like DaDice did. The price is only getting LOWER so this is nothing but a scam at this point. Remember that things don't change as long as you keep accepting low payments, the business rulers will be happy to keep rates as low as possible without people complaining.

No campaign has had a payment rate so high.

Rates are still very fair. Rates weren't decreased when the BTC price started rising, so why should they increase when the price of BTC decreases?

There was a time when 0.0002 - 0.0004 per post was more than a fair amount and the price wasn't much different (than a month ago) I believe.

Do keep in mind that at current rates, a hero member can be paid 0.2788 USD per post (something that takes often little effort and is often done without a paid signature). In my opinion 27 cents per post is a very large amount.

Where can I find these signature campaigns in the forum?

In the services sub forum.

The signature campaign market is competitive, so if campaigns start to lower their rates then other campaigns will probably do so as well. If it isn't worth your time to participate in a signature campaign, then that's great, you probably shouldn't, but I don't see how signature campaigns are scams. Nobody is forcing you to participate in a campaign so if you don't agree with how they're run, don't participate.

Please further explain how they're scams, because most participants know exactly how much they'll be paid for their work before participating, so I think that's completely fair. I suspect that posting rates have dropped because referral rates from signature campaign rates have probably dropped as well in the past few months, so the advertising isn't as effective. A few campaigns have closed in the past couple months because signature advertising wasn't effective for them, so it would make sense that clicks from signatures are down as well.

I agree with guitarplinker , that signature campaign market is competitive , if One campaign starts lowering the Payout rate then all the others will follow the same.
I have been in a very good campaign and have seen rates being decreased, just because all the campaign have so.

Fair reply Marco. the rates are fine the way they are, would be nice to get paid more but hey its fine how it is.

I think the rates are pretty reasonable.  Easy job= low pay.  If you are a fast typer and reader, you can make a few extra bucks, but to earn a living you will need a real job.

Yeah your are Right , these campaign are just to feed your Pockets with Net Packs or Cigarettes , for a living you need a real job , but i do have seen a lots of people spending their whole time here and they are earning amount 0.3BTC ~75$  from signatures ,  this isn't desirable.

I feel the same, I no longer bother to join any campaigns

Just know its not too much of a work when you make constructive posts, and half the people dont even do this and get away with getting paid.

So instead of complaining, and they just close their campaign you should just pick up another way to earn btc.

If the rates are absurdly that low, most will just leave or just post whenever they do instead of the pay.

you can earn 0.10 bitcoin per week with coinomat's signature campaign for example. if you got the time that is. I'd say it's a great rate.

Im enjoy with yobit signature campaign
he paid me everyday

i know i can get more if i join other campaign like bit-X, bitmixer, etc
but i choose yobit lower rate ::)

my english not good

any way dont think about bitcoin rate, you get from signature campaign free money

I'm fairly happy with the current sig rates for my campaign. Could it be more? sure.  Would I mind earning more? Absolutely not :)

i think sig campaign rates are just fair, sig campaign isnt a really a job that you would need to be paid atleast $50+ a week to feed your family, sig campaign is just here so you can earn extra money while posting

I agree with you

The rates are about 0.001-0.0012 and the mere difference between other campaigns and Dadice is 0.0002 BTC which isn't a huge sum. Each campaigns pays a fair rice depending on how much they make via the advertisements and hence the rates are just fine. BTC hasn't been on a downtrend always and it's always fluctuating. If the price increases, we wouldn't want the rates to be lowered and so goes when it's low. I feel that it's only people who are actively posting useful information and contributing to the community deserve a higher rate while for other members including myself, the rates are pretty fine.

Current payout rates of the most big names signature campaigns here are the rates when BTC are in $230 mark. Now we are around in that mark again so I will say that payout rates today are just fine except for those campaign that gives really low payout since the beginning.

I guess OP forgot's the main reason why he is here, this is a community to learn and exchange ideas about bitcoin. You cant walk around your community and ask them to pay you for your opinion.
Signature camps are just an added ingredient here so lets be thankful that someone is willing to pay us to wear their company signs and slogans.

The rates are fair and some of the campaigns are running a reward/bonus program for the participants who perform well, post good posts, post actively and don't spam, so thats an added advantage. And don't forget that this is just a form of advertising and each company has their own budget which they can spend on marketing.

If the ad campaign is proving to be beneficial for the company then they might increase the price and/or participants but you can't force someone to pay more, you can only decide whether or not you wish to participate in that price or not.

I think that signature campaigns are a great way to supplement your weekly income, but it is definitely not enough to live on. You're not going to make a lot with a new account, but as you rank up, the pay is actually pretty good considering what you have to do. You are essentially being paid to learn about bitcoin. You will always need a real job in the real world, ideally.

My campaign has not changed their rates for months and I doubt they will. While it is true that bitcoin price has dropped what they pay is good enough and I will not complain. Mainly because I'm not in it to make much in the first place I just post because I would post anyway and I also play at the dice site so I wear their sig.

I can't see where you are going with scam? If they are clear in the Op that you will be paid xamount and you are paid x amount where is the scamming?  ::)

The business rulers are happy to keep rates low, because at the moment business income for start ups is low.

The rates are good , but it can be better, i dont like when some campaign owners decrease the pay rate. We knwo that bitcoin price was very high comparing at the moment and the rates very higher that now. So i think it must increase(get back at least) the pay rate.

I think the rates are just fine, I mean, you get paid for something you'd do anyway.
I currently get 0.063 per week for 75 posts, once I'm senior member, this will go up to around 0.1 if I can get into the right campaign.

What an ironic thing to say in the Marketplace board. If you don't like the pay, don't join the campaign...if the campaign owner doesn't get enough interest they'll raise their rates (which is what happens in the marketplace.)

Additionally, do you live in a fiat world or a bitcoin world? Come to the bitcoin world, where the conversion rate doesn't matter! To compare your payout to fiat is logical but not relevant because your sig campaign employer only works in a bitcoin world.


Marco, I agree, it's quite fair. And Primedice only paid about 0.0013-0.0015, I think the other post just mistyped.

I'm also with you. Complaining because they don't pay enough is futile. Vote with your money (aka don't join them). If enough people stop using them, they go up. If enough people use them, it shows that the market is supporting the current values.

One thing to keep in mind is that signature campaign owners are not required to create these campaigns and pay users. The fact they do gives us an ability to earn a bit of extra money on the side, in a productive manner.

If your entire income is based on signature campaigns, you really need to re-evaluate your life to be honest.

i earn a fair rate of 20 cents a post, thats pretty decent, as much as i would love 1 dollar a post, but thats just not feasible, in no world

It's 20 cents you wouldn't have otherwise, so it's a good start tbh :)

Of course, most of us would love to earn 10k a week from signature campaigns, but that isn't feasible :)

Then again, the small amounts of BTC we earn now might someday be worth quite a chunk of money....

i agree one hundred percent, i do think that legendary members should get a bit higher than heroes as most sig campaigns give the same amount

The signature campaign payments can't be that bad for so many people to be in one ya know. Why raise rates for people that have bad posts to average, it doesn't make sense to me and it shouldn't to anyone else as it is not even remotely business savvy.

There are however a few great posters on this forum that do get more than the majority and rightfully so because of their standard of posting. I'm sure most business owners can appreciate an excellent poster needs paying more as he is representing there site to a higher standard.

OP no one is forced to join and the terms are clear when joining.

I think rates are very fair. I agree that last year they were better but it's still reasonable amount for pay-per-post. Fixed rates are even better. If you want to get paid more try fixed campaigns.
Remember it's a free market, if you don't like rates you don't have to join signature campaigns.

We know that we are in the "bitcoin world" but tell me how do you get bitcoin? you should look outside of bitcoin world to buy with fiat money ??, that's we are saying it should maybe increased just a bit the rate, as the bitcoin is low now.

I am satisfied with what I do in signature campaigns.
Just post useful information, which makes it free to participate in signature campaigns.
Waiting to be senior member and you definitely do more.

I agree that some campaigns have lower rates than their counterparts , but it never Expected that others campaigns to do same as all Campaigns are Independent and advertise here as per the Promotional Assets they have.

It is never Forced you to Join a campaign until unless You Choose it , and its better to migrate to another campaign of your choice that Blaming the present. 

well the signature campaign rates have always been a competitive scene.
new campaigns always have either higher rates or some new feature like bonuses.
and then old campaigns adjust themselves in order not to get emptied out of participants...

Note: If bitcoin drops constantly below $200 I think would be a time to re-evaluate the rates.

I think the rates of sig campaign is not only depends on bitcoin price, it maybe on the company itself, for example maybe their finance is low for the sig campaign, it's depends on the company, it's competitive i'm sure if there are new sig campaign which some higher rate than other, the other sig campaign will rise their rate too.

I find the rates of the campaign that I am in pretty reasonable for a week that I'm doing a little work. I have no trouble in this kind of work and I find it entertaining and has actually helped me gain a lot of knowledge while being paid to post. All in all, a win-win situation for me. Also, signature campaigns of services aren't just the only advertising strategy they have to spend on; they also have other things to allocate their budget to other than paying people to post.

Agree to this. Looks like I will agree with the TS now if bitcoin price continue to drops. Campaign managers must consider this now for future purposes because of current drop rates.

It's been mentioned before though - the signature campaign market is all supply and demand. Since there are lots of accounts willing to post at current pay rates, why would campaigns raise their payments? They'd be getting the same amount of advertising, but paying more for no real benefit.

If you really want to protest the rates of signature campaigns, then don't join a campaign. If less people joined campaigns, I suspect campaigns would either raise their rates, or just end the campaign. But you have to think about the advertiser - why would you raise pay rates by 10% or 20% for no benefit in web traffic? Doesn't make sense to them if the campaign is going well for them already.

Annnd to sub 200 we go. No excuses now, time to raise those rates. Im afraid we will keep going down for a long time. We are under WORLDWIDE PANIC right now, everything is fucking plummeting. Lets try to help people here getting some cheap Bitcoins during this period of time, who knows, maybe lives are being saved in the future. Maybe after the halving we will never see prices this low again, it's time to collect and to compensate people here for supporting Bitcoin even during the hardest times.


I know people living in shitty places that are making a living thanks to signature campaigns. High unemployment, low payrates, 3rd world standard of living. Some have enough good english to keep making good posts and make more of what they could make working some slavery job. The importance of the signature campaigns is underrated, they save lives. Someone with good english and a computer in Peru that has a Hero account can be making above average monthly income. Signature campaigns are one of the main tools to distribute Bitcoin around the world to all kinds of people.

I would not mind at all higher payments.  But what I get is good enough to keep me in.

bitmixer.io pays up to (max) 0.035 BTC / week (50 posts * BTC0.0007 each).  BTC0.035 * 4 = $28.00 (at $200 / Bitcoin) per month is well under even Peru's minimum wage (I understand it does not take too much time to post 50 times if you are "working"), and yes, it is profitable for smart participants in developing countries at those rates, it is still fairly small change.

Even in Peru.  Annual GNP/capita in Peru is over $2000.  $28.00 * 12 is nice, but only affects a very small number there.

Other countries and other signature campaigns may have different mileage!


(Edited for clarification)

On a grand scale, the number of people making a proper living from these campaigns is almost neglectable though.

However, you do raise a valid point, as certain people will benefit from these campaigns more so than others.

After this price drop I agree with you. It's still free market but all campaigns need to raise their rates if we think about $ value.

It's still up for the campaign managers to up their rates. After all, even if $ value of bitcoin goes down, would the quality of posts made by users go up if campaign managers raise their rates? They would still get the same level of advertising without any actual effect on their service, so why raise it when they really get what they want?

Increasing the rates probably means less qualitative posts and more spamming in general to earn as much money as possible :)

That's what it is. The quality per post wouldn't actually change in case campaign managers raise their rates. A campaign manager could actually check the posts of each user one by one, but that is such a tedious work to do on the manager's end.

Are you a Socialist? This is a free market, if you don't like the pay don't provide the service!


Why should rates be based on fiat values? These aren't companies that deal in fiat (except the exchanges), they ONLY deal in Bitcoin. All that matters is Bitcoin!


I think the only one panicking is you. The smart money is buying into these declines in the stock markets and the bitcoin market...do you believe that the world's businesses are going to stop? If so, panic. If not, don't be sore and buy some more.


I'm not so sure about this. People aren't going to make less constructive posts just because they're getting paid more. What drives post quality is disqualifying bad posts. And from the advertisers perspective, there's no difference between the ad on a good post vs. the ad on a bad post.

It's not that much work at all. Assuming there's, say 50 users, and each made 200 posts, that can be done in around an hour. Some of these campaign managers are earning multiple BTC per week/month, which is more than enough to pay for it.

I think they already pay a lot for us doing nothing extra. These campaigns are supposed to be some free extra coins...not a job. They could all lower the rates and still fill up no matter what. Perfect example of beggars can't be choosers.

The sad part is most of the people that complain about the rates are people who would make a lot more if they'd quit being lazy and get a real job. 0.1 BTC is ~100-150 posts in most campaigns, if not more. That's $23. You can work at McDonald's and earn more than that in 3 hours, with less work AND get benefits like health/school/etc, discounted food, etc.

Some people make it a temp job.

Which I understand, example you got laid off recently and in the process of finding one this can be a helpful things which they are doing an honorable service at the same time.

The rates are neutral in most of the campaigns ...and yes it would be very good if they make it 0.002 for H/L and 0.0015 for S and the rest can be the same as now..
but its just my opinion though.

Look how quick campaigns now are lowering rates, but back in the day they wouldn't have the decency to raise the rates higher when the rate was really low.

Don't be the nice-guy-im-ok-with-it and fight for your rights, posters.

MajicalDice has changed its pay rate. It is priced in USD now. In terms of bitcoin price, it is less than half of previous rates.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237314.0

I don't agree with that or see the problem paying same rates in (bitcoin). If you have a bitcoin business and receive bitcoin you have no loss paying out the members that promote you in bitcoin. It is a shame people accept them rates now that will be the norm. For the sites being cheap well good luck.

I would also like to see every service here only in bitcoin prices, and to those who are offering payments displayed in USD value, well, you never know,
maybe the price nosedives and they end up paying more btc with new USD rates, than they would if they just kept them in bitcoin.