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Title: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 23, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
I'm new to this forum and would like you to offer a risk free chance to invest in me.

I'm looking to build up trust and prove to you that I can make money so for now I have capped the max investment at 1 BTC so I can guarantee your money. (This cap will be removed later on)

If your interested PM me for more details.

Thanks,

M



2 of 5 Investor slots open.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Serith on October 23, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"

If you find people from this forum who are still willing to give you money after pirate@40, then those people totally deserve to be robbed. By the way for someone who may not know, 1 BTC investment cap required to make pyramid grow gradual,  otherwise one bulky investor can collapse it if he tries to withdraw his money plus "profit".


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 23, 2012, 03:35:51 PM
This is not what you think it is. The limit of investors will be capped at 5. After the first two weeks the 5 investors can increase their investment.

edited to add: Investors can withdraw at any time, initial investment + profit will be paid within 24hrs.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: AndrewBUD on October 23, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
I am rather confused @ why people start at the forums this way.

I have made 12 posts please give me money.... Investment my ass..

Why not put up some ID and take a small loan if all you need is 5 btc to make money.....


This seems silly.. you need 50 bucks to make money or 50 bucks to buy an 1/8th of Reefer off SR?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 23, 2012, 03:43:05 PM
As I said after two weeks the investors can increase their stake if they wish. The reason it's a 1BTC max at first is so they can trial it for cheap.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: AndrewBUD on October 23, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
meh no thanks.


Stick around for a while.. show who you are.. then maybe you might get some bites...


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Aahzman on October 23, 2012, 03:49:05 PM
I am rather confused @ why people start at the forums this way.

I have made 12 posts please give me money.... Investment my ass..

Why not put up some ID and take a small loan if all you need is 5 btc to make money.....


This seems silly.. you need 50 bucks to make money or 50 bucks to buy an 1/8th of Reefer off SR?

$50 for an 1/8th? i been outta the hotbox for a while, but has the price of weed gone up??


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: AndrewBUD on October 23, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
Depends on quality really...


IRL is about $25-35 for Good stuff... but SR seems to be much higher specially in the USA..


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 23, 2012, 04:50:56 PM
OP, you provide zero insight into how you invest, therefore providing the community with zero reasons to trust you. It's easy enough to Photoshop up a quickie fake ID scan. So unless you want to give us a reason for us to trust you, there's not going to be many investors. Pirateat40 was a trusted member with a thousand posts. You're a member with 14 posts and essentially zero reputation. I wish you luck (unless your scamming), but chances are, nobody's going to trust you right now.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on October 23, 2012, 05:01:25 PM
I'm new to this forum and would like you to offer a risk free chance to invest in me.

I'm looking to build up trust and prove to you that I can make money so for now I have capped the max investment at 1 BTC so I can guarantee your money. (This cap will be removed later on)

If your interested PM me for more details.

Thanks,

M


[I am able to send a scan of my ID to investors.]

I swear we should not let members with atleast 3-6 month old account create posts in here. 


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Bia Yao Ma on October 23, 2012, 05:38:38 PM
hooray for pyramid scams!


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dansker on October 23, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!  >:(


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 24, 2012, 01:19:43 AM
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Title: Re: [CLOSED] Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: AndrewBUD on October 24, 2012, 07:02:18 PM
Why not get a small loan, repay. do it again. until you have some reputation.







Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 26, 2012, 03:43:41 AM
caffeinewriter has invested 0.1BTC today and will receive at least 5% interest in 7days and may also withdraw from or add to his investment.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on October 26, 2012, 03:59:23 AM
caffeinewriter has invested 0.1BTC today and will receive at least 5% interest in 7days and may also withdraw from or add to his investment.

I'm looking forward to this ^_^ Hopefully it works out :D


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Aahzman on October 26, 2012, 03:07:34 PM
Depends on quality really...


IRL is about $25-35 for Good stuff... but SR seems to be much higher specially in the USA..

Wow. It's like $50 for a quarter of premium quality reefer here in the greater toronto area...  SilkRoad ripoff...but i guess its worth it for anonymity/distancing from supplier....


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: AndrewBUD on October 26, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
Depends on quality really...


IRL is about $25-35 for Good stuff... but SR seems to be much higher specially in the USA..

Wow. It's like $50 for a quarter of premium quality reefer here in the greater toronto area...  SilkRoad ripoff...but i guess its worth it for anonymity/distancing from supplier....


Well I'm in Sarnia.. Not far from GTA...  Like I said $25-35 an 1/8th depending on quality.......


Goodluck with your investment.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Malophor on October 26, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
Perhaps a bit more details on what you are doing to earn such a high percentage? Otherwise you come off as a scam -- too good to be true.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on October 27, 2012, 02:13:45 AM
Perhaps a bit more details on what you are doing to earn such a high percentage? Otherwise you come off as a scam -- too good to be true.

Without going into enough detail that someone can steal my idea, I basically trade BTC for other currencies hedging my investments, the thing that allows me to guarantee the profits is I have a very good pricing algorithm.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 27, 2012, 02:28:29 PM
What could possibly go wrong?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: kwoody on October 29, 2012, 02:52:17 AM
You. Must. Be. Kidding. Me.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: b!z on October 29, 2012, 01:22:07 PM
Perhaps a bit more details on what you are doing to earn such a high percentage? Otherwise you come off as a scam -- too good to be true.

He's obviously buying weed, smoking it, then finding out a way to return the money on time.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on October 29, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
I would imagine this is step one of a pyramid scam when the controller builds trust.  The trick is not to invest in step two when the money actually disappears.  I'm interested, I think I will invest we will see if I can after this comment.  (Will update.)


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on November 02, 2012, 06:22:10 AM
Paid 0.10779553 BTC to caffinewriter, which is the 0.1 BTC initial investment + interest.

Good business from caffinewriter quick to respond and easy to deal with, would do business again, obviously, as we are with an increased investment.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 02, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
I'm new to this forum and would like you to offer a risk free chance to invest in me.

So you start out by lying?   :(


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 02, 2012, 03:20:59 PM
I am doing this today, skeptics.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 02, 2012, 03:42:21 PM
Complain bitterly about new people!  We need more of that too!


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 02, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
Paid 0.10779553 BTC to caffinewriter, which is the 0.1 BTC initial investment + interest.

Good business from caffinewriter quick to respond and easy to deal with, would do business again, obviously, as we are with an increased investment.

Unless he replies here, it's like it never happened.

Well, I actually did receive it :)

https://blockchain.info/tx/f5d710d91bd3dd77d868b94ab0dff21ddc5cfc576e870a57c5a10e173809b691


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on November 10, 2012, 09:09:57 AM
Sorry about paying late this week was a hard time getting your money out, Everyone paid now though enjoy your profits.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 10, 2012, 05:17:35 PM
Payment received this morning you guys--I got 1.064 from an investment of 1 coin! 


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 10, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
Payment received this morning you guys--I got 1.064 from an investment of 1 coin! 

Why are you helping a ponzi build trust?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 10, 2012, 05:42:17 PM
I'm keeping an eye on him as well--why do you have a problem with this?  I've stated my suspicions in my initial post, there is a chance this is legit you know.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 10, 2012, 07:55:45 PM
...there is a chance this is legit you know.

You don't believe that this guy can make 10%+ a week, because he wouldn't need loans.

As an early depositor in the ponzi, you are trying to suck others to deposit so you profit.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 10, 2012, 08:16:38 PM
I'm cashed out booblicker. ;D


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on November 11, 2012, 03:58:13 AM
Thought I'd point out that it is impossible to run a ponzi with 5 investors. On that note 2 slots remaining now that underminer has ran off with his cash :)


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: odolvlobo on November 11, 2012, 05:04:47 AM
Perhaps a bit more details on what you are doing to earn such a high percentage? Otherwise you come off as a scam -- too good to be true.

Without going into enough detail that someone can steal my idea, I basically trade BTC for other currencies hedging my investments, the thing that allows me to guarantee the profits is I have a very good pricing algorithm.

That is total BS. I seem to remember pirateat40 saying exactly the same thing about how he could pay 7% per week. Apparently, writing that kind of nonsense actually fools people.

Anyway, this guy is simply trying to buy rep. I don't know what he is going to do with it, but seeing how he is lying already, I would never trust him no matter how good his rep is. At some point, he is just going to disappear with your money, create another account, and do thing same thing again.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 11, 2012, 08:45:01 AM
Perhaps a bit more details on what you are doing to earn such a high percentage? Otherwise you come off as a scam -- too good to be true.

Without going into enough detail that someone can steal my idea, I basically trade BTC for other currencies hedging my investments, the thing that allows me to guarantee the profits is I have a very good pricing algorithm.

That is total BS. I seem to remember pirateat40 saying exactly the same thing about how he could pay 7% per week. Apparently, writing that kind of nonsense actually fools people.

Anyway, this guy is simply trying to buy rep. I don't know what he is going to do with it, but seeing how he is lying already, I would never trust him no matter how good his rep is. At some point, he is just going to disappear with your money, create another account, and do thing same thing again.

Okay, he's definitely going to run off with my 0.2 BTC. Combined, he might scrape together a few Bitcoins, but currently, I think he's legit. Enjoy your thoughts.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 12, 2012, 04:48:59 AM
Okay, he's definitely going to run off with my 0.2 BTC. Combined, he might scrape together a few Bitcoins, but currently, I think he's legit. Enjoy your thoughts.

He is in the trust building phase of his ponzi.  He is going to pay back early and extra to build trust.  Once he passes the magic number of "bitcoins-in-hand" he will disappear.



Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 12, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
I'm new to this forum and would like you to offer a risk free chance to invest in me.

Risk free. LOL  :D


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 12, 2012, 04:33:48 PM
I am happy with my .06 bitcoin massive profits.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on November 12, 2012, 04:54:34 PM
Guess we just can't learn.  Enjoy your massive profits. 


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 12, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Okay, he's definitely going to run off with my 0.2 BTC. Combined, he might scrape together a few Bitcoins, but currently, I think he's legit. Enjoy your thoughts.

Do you understand how a ponzi works?  Obviously Pirate didn't run off with the first couple BTC "invested" either and "amazingly" he also paid interest on time.  That means he was legit right?

It is called trust building. In a couple weeks when he has 100 or so scammer shills (or honestly stupid patsies) like you, and weeks of profitable "investments" he will announce that due to unprecedented demand the cap will be raised to 10 BTC.  Then sometime in the next couple months disappear with a lot more than 1 BTC.  The more shills/dupes he can get get early on the larger the base and the more than can be stolen.

So you are either:
a) an idiot
b) a scammer how know it is a ponzi and trying to build it so you can profit at the expense of everyone who comes in later and loses.

Claims of "genuine" are simply a cover for a or b (could be either).  So which is it?  Idiot or scammer?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 12, 2012, 05:28:35 PM
I am happy with my .06 bitcoin massive profits.

I'd kept quiet about that. Your now associated with this scam. Not good.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 12, 2012, 06:05:03 PM
Fuck all of you, learn to read and see what I initially said about this "investment" and then make an informed decision/opinion instead of spouting off whatever drivel froths up.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 12, 2012, 06:52:53 PM
Fuck all of you, learn to read and see what I initially said about this "investment" and then make an informed decision/opinion instead of spouting off whatever drivel froths up.

Scam confirmed. Thankyou.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 12, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
Lolwut?  Please, explain your "reasoning" would you?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 12, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
Lolwut?  Please, explain your "reasoning" would you?

Well 'risk free' investment stated on the very first paragraph, for any amount just don't exist. Every investment has risk, even it's capped at 1btc.

So lying to sucker in investors == scamming.

Not really much else to say. He/she be back under another username soon to try again, no doubt.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 12, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
True.  Loans to strangers are never risk free.  It's possible he is backing the loan himself with other monies he has or will earn however.  I just really don't think this being a real situation is completely beyond the realm of possibility.  If the op were to disappear then sure, but something makes me think that is not really his plan.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 12, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
True.  Loans to strangers are never risk free.  It's possible he is backing the loan himself with other monies he has or will earn however.  I just really don't think this being a real situation is completely beyond the realm of possibility.  If the op were to disappear then sure, but something makes me think that is not really his plan.

Kinda like Schroeder's cat for scams.  It is not possible to be a scam until after the scammer has already stolen the coins!  Insightful.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 12, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
As you seem to be, on the whole.   ::) Anyway, I haven't lost money on this forum to strangers yet, my intuition has served me this far and you are welcome to knock it all you please.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 12, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
Without going into enough detail that someone can steal my idea, I basically trade BTC for other currencies hedging my investments, the thing that allows me to guarantee the profits is I have a very good pricing algorithm.

Guaranteed profits? That hasn't existed since the beginning of time.

Financial genius, or good old fashioned two bob scammer?

LOL :D


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 13, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Okay, he's definitely going to run off with my 0.2 BTC. Combined, he might scrape together a few Bitcoins, but currently, I think he's legit. Enjoy your thoughts.

Do you understand how a ponzi works?  Obviously Pirate didn't run off with the first couple BTC "invested" either and "amazingly" he also paid interest on time.  That means he was legit right?

It is called trust building. In a couple weeks when he has 100 or so scammer shills (or honestly stupid patsies) like you, and weeks of profitable "investments" he will announce that due to unprecedented demand the cap will be raised to 10 BTC.  Then sometime in the next couple months disappear with a lot more than 1 BTC.  The more shills/dupes he can get get early on the larger the base and the more than can be stolen.

So you are either:
a) an idiot
b) a scammer how know it is a ponzi and trying to build it so you can profit at the expense of everyone who comes in later and loses.

Claims of "genuine" are simply a cover for a or b (could be either).  So which is it?  Idiot or scammer?

Definitely not a scammer. I've put too much work in my account. I'll go with idiot, even though I'm sure this isn't risk-free, I just am choosing to put my trust in him for now. It may be an idiotic move, but I'm not going to force anyone to put their money in there >_> It's everyone's own choice where they invest.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 05:18:52 PM
Your money, your choice. Can't argue with that.

You trust this guy? Even though he blatantly lied. Twice.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
Quote
Your money, your choice. Can't argue with that.

You can't?  Well you have been so far, there's a lie in there from you somewhere as well.  Think about it.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 05:43:43 PM
Quote
Your money, your choice. Can't argue with that.

You can't?  Well you have been so far, th
ere's a lie in there from you somewhere as well.  Think about it.

??? You've lost me.

Can you highlight the text where I've entered an argument telling someone what to do with their money?

My monitor must be playing, because I fail to locate it.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Quote
I'd kept quiet about that. Your now associated with this scam. Not good.

You aren't telling me what to do with my coin in this statement? 


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
Quote
I'd kept quiet about that. Your now associated with this scam. Not good.

You aren't telling me what to do with my coin in this statement? 

No, like it says, I would of kept quiet about it if I had invested and profited. It's not even telling you to keep quiet, it's want I would of done.

Not that I would of given him any coins of course.

Read it again.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 06:04:57 PM
I guess you are blind to implications *and* actively practice dishonesty.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 06:29:15 PM
I guess you are blind to implications *and* actively practice dishonesty.

Link? Evidence? Proof?

You've lost the plot. What you talking about man?

I expect an apology when you sober up.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Not going to happen, why would I apologize for my interpretation of your snide comments on this issue?

You would keep quiet about making profit off of something you "know" to be a scam.  Those are your words.  It may not make you a scammer directly, but it does raise some questions.

This listing btw, meets very few criteria listed in the "how to spot a ponzi" thread.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 13, 2012, 06:51:46 PM
You know, this is kind of fucked up. I'm not shamelessly promoting this thing, neither is underminer, and yet people are implying that we're both scammers. Has pirate, nefario, and others undermined the trust of this community so much that taking a risk is now considered advertisement for a scam? That's how it seems to me.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Not going to happen, why would I apologize for my interpretation of your snide comments on this issue?

You would keep quiet about making profit off of something you "know" to be a scam.  Those are your words.  It may not make you a scammer directly, but it does raise some questions.

This listing btw, meets very few criteria listed in the "how to spot a ponzi" thread.

Is that best you can scratch about at the bottom of the barrel and come up with as a distraction from your original folly of an accusation.

Pathetic.  ;D

You messed up. Don't take it out on me.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
Has pirate, nefario, and others undermined the trust of this community so much that taking a risk is now considered advertisement for a scam?

I'm going to put my head in the block on this one and say "yes."

I might be wrong (hope I'm wrong) but we haven't even scratched the surface how much damage has been done. The big question is "Is it permanent?"


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 07:29:34 PM
I made a few cents and found an idiot.  How did I mess up?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 13, 2012, 07:47:24 PM
I made a few cents and found an idiot.  How did I mess up?

You know full well what I'm talking about. This folly:

 

Quote
Your money, your choice. Can't argue with that.

You can't?  Well you have been so far, th
ere's a lie in there from you somewhere as well.  Think about it.

??? You've lost me.

Can you highlight the text where I've entered an argument telling someone what to do with their money?

My monitor must be playing, because I fail to locate it.


We are all still waiting for you to highlight some text posted to backup this accusation.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 13, 2012, 07:55:53 PM
Who exactly is this "we" --you mean the royal "we" ?  ;D

Anyway, like I said, you don't know what the word "implication" means.  If you tell someone what they are doing is wrong or incorrect you are, in effect, telling them what to do.

(You fucking tard.)


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on November 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
You know, this is kind of fucked up. I'm not shamelessly promoting this thing, neither is underminer, and yet people are implying that we're both scammers. Has pirate, nefario, and others undermined the trust of this community so much that taking a risk is now considered advertisement for a scam? That's how it seems to me.

Your level of naivete can not be that high.  It don't think you're a scammer as of yet but I do think you are lending reputation to someone who (if history serves a guide) has a high probability to be building a long term scam.  


You may ask me how would I know or think that, other than the without fail, 100% default rate on a whole for all programs on here this:

The title of the post:  Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max

Right off the back, this is ingenious at best. Just because you sent an address some BTC and got back more because he promised it, doesn't mean anything.   Second, the user has 29 posts.   So either he magically appeared from no where with this "business investment" or he is an old scammer working on his sophomore attempt.  


The real issue is that you posted here lending to its legitimacy because you  A) Truly believe in him (refer to my opening statement)  B)  Know it is likely a ponzi and you may want to be on the ground floor to profit.   C)  Unknown motive  


In any case, I hope you read this post and take it as advice for you to realize what your reputation carries on this forum, in a sense it is a compliment as well.


Dalkore


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 14, 2012, 12:15:23 AM
I'm confused by the above statement, it could go either way really.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: johnwhitestar on November 14, 2012, 12:17:26 AM
I was waiting obsi to come back under another nick ;) He took "only" 40.000$ from his investors.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 14, 2012, 12:45:03 AM
Who exactly is this "we" --you mean the royal "we" ?  ;D

Anyway, like I said, you don't know what the word "implication" means.  If you tell someone what they are doing is wrong or incorrect you are, in effect, telling them what to do.

(You fucking tard.)

Oh dear, personal insults. You've now lost your temper. This also has the unfortunate side-effect of you losing control of the argument as well.

I've kept a cool head and now firmly in charge. (No swearing from this side.)

I'll let you stew for a bit now, perhaps give you chance to think of some more backpedaling ideas to dig yourself out of the hole you've dug today.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 14, 2012, 12:53:31 AM
Uh yeah you do that.



Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on November 14, 2012, 02:09:06 AM
I'm confused by the above statement, it could go either way really.

Yes it could, my above comments shows shows some possibility of it being legit.   At that point you need to add in all the history we have of offers on this forum.  When you do that, 95% it is a scam in the long-run.  That is why I quoted the above Sr. member.   Either way, he should understand that with him taking a stance in this business venture, he is doing more harm in the long-run because he is giving a likely scam, credence.  Also, the OP has not posted here so I assume, he has run off or is strategizing how to handle these comments.  The longer we hear nothing, the more this goes to the 100% scam column.  


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 14, 2012, 02:30:39 AM
Maybe English is not your first language?  I am just having trouble with the grammar.

If something is being called a scam and I choose to spend my own money to check it out--I can.  I am not using your money or investor's money.  If I lose it then it is on me, and I am the only one to pay the consequences.  I don't see how this topic is so muddled.  I haven't left feedback in the honest traders section on this transaction and won't (it's too small for me to think its warranted) only here and another thread or two that I did indeed make a very small return.  I am not contributing in a big way to the op's rep, indeed I think being called a "senior member" by Dalkore pretty much shows how manipulable "rep" is on this forum.  I freely admit and would like you idiots to take notice pf the fact that I have not been here very long.  You don't trust me?  Fine.  I don't trust anyone: I simply believe people are or are not more likely to behave one way or another based on circumstance.  I think a lot of people are blowing fuses over a very minor issue here.  I would be making a checklist of people to avoid doing business with here on the future, but I don't believe any of the naysayers in this thread *do* any biz on the forums but choosing instead to bay like donkeys.  (And accuse me of being dishonest, while advising me to hide my "associations"--its maybe 70 cents shut up already.)


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on November 14, 2012, 03:40:47 AM
Maybe English is not your first language?  I am just having trouble with the grammar.

If something is being called a scam and I choose to spend my own money to check it out--I can.  I am not using your money or investor's money.  If I lose it then it is on me, and I am the only one to pay the consequences.  I don't see how this topic is so muddled.  I haven't left feedback in the honest traders section on this transaction and won't (it's too small for me to think its warranted) only here and another thread or two that I did indeed make a very small return.  I am not contributing in a big way to the op's rep, indeed I think being called a "senior member" by Dalkore pretty much shows how manipulable "rep" is on this forum.  I freely admit and would like you idiots to take notice pf the fact that I have not been here very long.  You don't trust me?  Fine.  I don't trust anyone: I simply believe people are or are not more likely to behave one way or another based on circumstance.  I think a lot of people are blowing fuses over a very minor issue here.  I would be making a checklist of people to avoid doing business with here on the future, but I don't believe any of the naysayers in this thread *do* any biz on the forums but choosing instead to bay like donkeys.  (And accuse me of being dishonest, while advising me to hide my "associations"--its maybe 70 cents shut up already.)

I actually quoted another member that is a "Sr. Member" as well, sorry about the confusion.   


Just to address your comment, you are free too do whatever you like.   In the same token, I am free to comment on these posts as well.  After seeing every offer go bust, I have watched this sub-forum very closely, along with the Securities section. 

If we just sit back and let people get ripped off, then it will just continue to discredit any legitimate investments.   This one falls into the likely scam arena very easily.   



Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: DoomDumas on November 14, 2012, 04:42:12 AM
Is this serious ?  Sadly, I'm sure there are still plenty of bitcoin user that will behave like decapitated chiken and will embrasse this so scammy offer !

PLEASE :

https://i.imgur.com/5Q1Rr.png


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 14, 2012, 07:33:35 AM
This listing btw, meets very few criteria listed in the "how to spot a ponzi" thread.

LOL  :D

I've just counted 8 out of a possible 9 ponzi indicators in this thread. The only missing one is #9, having a pass-thru.
You obviously:

1) Haven't read it properly, or
2) Trying to encourage others to invest by installing false information.

8 out of 9. Must be legit. LOL  ::)
I'm beginning to lose the will to live. :P


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 16, 2012, 05:14:22 PM
I'm beginning to lose the will to live. :P

http://vasimpleservices.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nike-just-do-it.jpg

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I don't think you quite understand how hard I laughed when a nike commercial came on right after a suicide prevention one.

Anyways, back on topic, he hasn't been on in 4 days, despite today being "payday". So he may have run off with my money, just like all of you said. Anyways, if he does come back, I'm withdrawing my money this week. If not, I should have listened to you. *shrugs*


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 16, 2012, 05:42:08 PM
I'll bet .5 he pays caffeine if not today tomorrow.  Any takers?


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 16, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
I'll bet .5 he pays caffeine if not today tomorrow.  Any takers?

Don't have money, I spent most of it on an ad campaign, and the rest is invested :P I'll be sure to keep you guys up to date.

EDIT: If you think I'm some big spender... *chuckles* I'm terrible at saving Bitcoins ^_^ I only had .2 invested with him total. If he doesn't pay by Monday, I'm filing a scam report.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 16, 2012, 07:56:11 PM
#caffeineroller

Big spender in town.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 16, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Though if you'd like to donate those 0.5 if you lose to the caffeinewriter Bitcoin Recovery fund, I'd be more than happy to accept them ^_^


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 16, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
You already have a pending job offer from me, lets wait and see how that turns out lol.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 16, 2012, 11:51:21 PM
You already have a pending job offer from me, lets wait and see how that turns out lol.

Of course <(^_^')-- Just been busy with school


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Metta28 on November 20, 2012, 07:50:43 AM
Very sorry about late payment caffinewriter, been a busy week. I've paid slightly extra than % earned due to payment being late (1% per day).


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 20, 2012, 07:53:14 AM
Very sorry about late payment caffinewriter, been a busy week. I've paid slightly extra than % earned due to payment being late (1% per day).

Thanks, all squared up now. I may reinvest at another time, but I need "all hands on deck" for my current venture.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: mp420 on November 20, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
Hm, come to think of it, the 5 investor limit needs not be lifted if the 1BTC cap is lifted. We had passthroughs with Pirate too.

Actually, keeping an inner circle of 5 "primary" investors could be quite a clever way to run a ponzi. Starting at 1BTC investment cap implies he's broke though. I think it's a good idea to have at least a few thousand dollars worth of initial capital whan starting a ponzi so that you can use your money to brag and instill trust in the profitability of your "business".


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Dalkore on November 20, 2012, 05:42:10 PM
This thread leaves me with the words "confidence scam" floating though my mind, and a total loss of respect for anyone who becomes, or already is an unwitting shill.

I know right, I actually got challenged on here when I called it out.   


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 20, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
Bunch of crybabies here is all I see really.  I don't see any scam here.  I got my money, nobody lost, nobody really gained anything either.

So what? Lol.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 20, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
Bunch of crybabies here is all I see really.  I don't see any scam here.  I got my money, nobody lost, nobody really gained anything either.

So what? Lol.

You don't see a scam here?  Are you dank?

1,400% per year profit.  lol


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: caffeinewriter on November 20, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
This thread leaves me with the words "confidence scam" floating though my mind, and a total loss of respect for anyone who becomes, or already is an unwitting shill.

I know right, I actually got challenged on here when I called it out.   

Anyone who espouses this as a success is directly responsible when it fails.

I'll just leave this here.

Quote
You must use your own brain: caveat emptor.

If you think it's a scam, don't invest. If you think it's a good opportunity, invest. If you're not sure, do some research. So trust, don't trust, it's all up to you, not to the people that have invested previously. Use your own goddamn brain.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Vod on November 20, 2012, 09:51:57 PM
This should still raise red flags to anyone looking to invest, and I am willing to stake what little reputation I may have that the risk of collapse or theft is very high.

Risk of collapse is 100%.

If there was a way to make this high of a return in any way, our monetary system could not exist, or at the very least inflation would be in the triple digits.  Everyone would be doing it and have millions of dollars.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 21, 2012, 04:28:57 AM
In my personal life I often invest (in myself) on projects which net 100% profit.  1000% profit has happened as well, it's typically just not particularly reliable or predictable.  It's not improbable or impossible to find a way to make a 5-10% profit reliably.  If you think that is, you are retarded. That is not an insult, just a statement of fact.

I don't see why it is so bad to check something out on this forum.  Honestly if someone can't think straight enough to not yell "wolf" every time they see anything they don't like I question their judgement on ANYTHING.

The argument that I have lent credence to any scam is a weak one, btw.  This thread continues to drag the op through the mud.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: mp420 on November 21, 2012, 01:18:19 PM
It's not improbable or impossible to find a way to make a 5-10% profit reliably.

You are correct, if you're talking about yearly profit. Even real (inflation-adjusted) profit for a limited (but arguably even very high) amount of capital can be "reliably" over 5% annually.

"Reliably" is in quotes because there is always a non-negligible risk. But, yeah, absent systemic crises it is not inconceivable that someone could make that kind of profit for decades without failure.

5% weekly can work for some amount of money and for some amount of time, and it's never reliable unless we talk about trivially small amounts. Even if someone has this kind of real world business (I think drug trafficking can sometimes achieve these kinds of returns), it will eventually grow large enough to saturate its market (hence lower profits) and attract competition (hence lower profits too).

This thread is a caricature of a ponzi scheme. Maybe, with enough idiots, it can grow to a real ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 21, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
This thread is a caricature of a ponzi scheme. Maybe, with enough idiots, it can grow to a real ponzi scheme.

Caricature? I'd say more like a huge wall sized oil painting. But of course you have to stand back to see it properly.


Title: Re: Invest your BTC - Guaranteed 5-10% profit in 7 days - 1 BTC max
Post by: underminer on November 21, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
Buffer?  I was hoping you lost the will to live completely. 

If 5% is so hard to make why are there businesses at all?