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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: SFR10 on October 13, 2015, 12:59:42 PM



Title: User btcbounty Scammer (Alt Accounts: hardtime/escrowboy/wayayo) Payed everyone
Post by: SFR10 on October 13, 2015, 12:59:42 PM
What happened:
So the user btcbounty made a thread on the service section about buying referrals under his Gokano account for 0.002 BTC each and so some forum members signed up under him including me and he promised to pay and he did pay only to the first few members signing up under him and for some of us , there was the problem of Malleability attack going on so the amount he sent got labeled doubled spend on the blockchain so as result I pm'ed him as said : The transaction just got double spend as you may see in the picture: ( You should ask the blockchain support as lately many double spend transactions happening since last night )

https://i.imgur.com/DZnU880.jpg

his answer to that pm of me is the one on Oct,5 and until now nothing has happened

https://i.imgur.com/MJwNdmu.jpg

His two last posts on the thread:
Remaining payments i will cross check and i will send them as soon as possible.

And

I Think Yesterday Night Some Problem with bitcoin network as they are having some error in their network i contact to Blockchain and they said the Double Sending error will be cleared in 24 to 48 hours. So please don't misunderstand me and support me with patience please.




Yes it went out of my budget range any way no-problem i will get funds today and i will clear each and every person payments no need to worry dudes.

However has been 4 days from then and still no sign of any payment

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=541941
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513024      Alt account
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553144      Alt account
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969      Alt account as mentioned by himself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1198495


Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199495.0
Amount Scammed:
0.002 BTC for each person except first few which got payment
Additional Notes:
1) The user is running a Micro Loans Lending service in the following link using one of his alts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197530
2) The user on Oct,9 Bid 0.11BTC using on of his alts to buy a Senior member account on Auction section : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203174.msg12642318#msg12642318
3) The user today posted using hardtime account the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1207188.msg12672756#msg12672756
4) In this three accounts the associated address is : 1NitQvvti9qTMTB4gggefVpGcA49qav1DH
5) Credits to Sharma for noticing first:
Can someone on Default trust give this account negative rating ?,
definitely lying. according to the address he sent the payment from , btcbounty is the same person with escrowboy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553144), while escrowboy is offering loan in this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197530
6) In the 2nd screenshot I posted , you could see on one of his replies that his asking for a feedback
7) If anyone could give his four accounts a lesson it would be very helpful as clearly his a scammer and it would be better to not do any business with any of his accounts


Updates:

Update 1: Found another two of his alt accounts:  wayayo and Shield
Update 2: Shield is Pending to be removed as the text was miss-red but due to some feedbacks associating it to the list, I'm waiting for some proofs
Update 3: Shield is not an alt of the associated accounts , apology on my behalf for mistakenly put your name on this thread and sorry for shorena that I provided wrong info here
Update 4: User has now payed all the remaining payments with another address of him: https://blockchain.info/address/16fYvWaM7USgE1pHKqdK5t9CZXCiRoiic6


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: Quickseller on October 13, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
So he tried to pay you but the TX was double spent because of a malleability issue? Have you tried following up with him about this? It is possible that he does not fully understand that you did not receive the transaction.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: DevSoft on October 13, 2015, 01:23:30 PM
So he tried to pay you but the TX was double spent because of a malleability issue? Have you tried following up with him about this? It is possible that he does not fully understand that you did not receive the transaction.

I agree, admin could be new, or not understand the issue you are having. I wouldn't rush to report.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: SFR10 on October 13, 2015, 01:38:35 PM
So he tried to pay you but the TX was double spent because of a malleability issue? Have you tried following up with him about this? It is possible that he does not fully understand that you did not receive the transaction.

I agree, admin could be new, or not understand the issue you are having. I wouldn't rush to report.

yes actually he did understand well about it and posted in the thread explaining a bit and promised to pay on Oct,9th but didn't and surprisingly he used another of his alt accounts on Oct,9th to buy a senior member account for 0.11 BTC meaning he had somewhere the funds since he bid in auction and won the auction as well ... I gave him enough time before reporting him as I though he will pay but until now many users haven't got any payments from him


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: jacee on October 13, 2015, 01:49:11 PM
Here are list of the other alts of escrowboy
 wayayo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969)
 shield (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393981)

Edit: The names are already mentuoned LOL.

The guy was a pain. He's stubborn and I think behind those accounts is a teenage boy looking for easy money online.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: shorena on October 13, 2015, 02:34:01 PM
Here are list of the other alts of escrowboy
 wayayo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969)
 shield (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393981)

Edit: The names are already mentuoned LOL.

The guy was a pain. He's stubborn and I think behind those accounts is a teenage boy looking for easy money online.

Just in case -> https://archive.is/kmxiX


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo / Shield )
Post by: mj2121989 on October 13, 2015, 03:17:05 PM
so...I signed up on Gokano for the same guy who left negative trusts on my accounts (Shield).  >:( >:(
@op thanks for creating this thread. I was wondering who SHield is and whether he has an account with DT here.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 13, 2015, 04:11:18 PM
What the hell is this?
why my username is added to this list?


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: Shield on October 13, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
Here are list of the other alts of escrowboy
 wayayo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969)
 shield (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393981)

Edit: The names are already mentuoned LOL.

The guy was a pain. He's stubborn and I think behind those accounts is a teenage boy looking for easy money online.

Just in case -> https://archive.is/kmxiX
Lol
I wonder who added you to DT?
you can't even read the english properly, read the post again that you archived


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: sho_road_warrior on October 13, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
Here are list of the other alts of escrowboy
 wayayo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969)
 shield (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393981)

Edit: The names are already mentuoned LOL.

The guy was a pain. He's stubborn and I think behind those accounts is a teenage boy looking for easy money online.

Just in case -> https://archive.is/kmxiX
Lol
I wonder who added you to DT?
you can't even read the english properly, read the post again that you archived

BadBear did.

I like how you keep calm and all that. You are correct I (and several others here) missread the post. Your feedback will be removed when I have time to do so.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: Shield on October 13, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
BadBear did.

I like how you keep calm and all that. You are correct I (and several others here) missread the post. Your feedback will be removed when I have time to do so.
If I do something against forum rules I deserve negative feedback I will accept this happily but I don't like called scammer because I am not one

I am just helping the community to findout the possible scams and save money of legit user
I have started thread about this so I can find possible scammers,check my signature


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: SFR10 on October 13, 2015, 04:56:16 PM
First of all Thank you shorena for quick acting for this matter


Here are list of the other alts of escrowboy
 wayayo  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=480969)
 shield (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393981)

Edit: The names are already mentuoned LOL.

The guy was a pain. He's stubborn and I think behind those accounts is a teenage boy looking for easy money online.
Probably missed it by fractions of seconds on the update :)


so...I signed up on Gokano for the same guy who left negative trusts on my accounts (Shield).  >:( >:(
@op thanks for creating this thread. I was wondering who SHield is and whether he has an account with DT here.
your welcome ... Probably yes base on some evidence which i'm still checking in order to be sure since Shield contacted me on pm



What the hell is this?
why my username is added to this list?
based on some evidence found and I will be contacting those who left feedback on associated accounts telling that your also an alt of those mentioned accounts and if on your part you have something to prove that your not an alt of those accounts, i'll be more than happy to re-edit the thread and remove your name on the list but for now these are some evidence:

Trust feedback of Shield:

https://i.imgur.com/5ORJjhn.jpg

Trust feedback of other accounts:

https://i.imgur.com/EhX7Tla.jpg

http://screenshot.net/q006jt7.jpg (http://screenshot.net/q006jt7)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 13, 2015, 05:07:23 PM
Lol   :P

don't you notice all those feebacks were given by same user jaycee using his alt scumbug

If I give you feedback that you are alt of a big scammer then you will?  ;D
read the proofs he given in comments for negative feedback on trust page  :o

use common sense friend  ;)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy )
Post by: shorena on October 13, 2015, 05:14:39 PM
BadBear did.

I like how you keep calm and all that. You are correct I (and several others here) missread the post. Your feedback will be removed when I have time to do so.
If I do something against forum rules I deserve negative feedback I will accept this happily but I don't like called scammer because I am not one

I am just helping the community to findout the possible scams and save money of legit user
I have started thread about this so I can find possible scammers,check my signature

The trust system is not about the forums rules, doing what you do (I know your threa btw) I think you know that.

@SFR10 read the "proof" for Shield again. The brackets make it somewhat easy to miss. I will quote it slightly modified with my own additions in [] below to make it clear.

-snip-
So please tell me that on my profile [the user] "shield" [has] given me untrust mark. Please let me know did i done any mistake here ??

I removed my rating towards Shield respectively and will leave a neutral rating to explain the situation.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 13, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
thanks shorena

and I have spend some of my time and found the account that was bought by scammer escrowboy in auction
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203174.0

2) The user on Oct,9 Bid 0.11BTC using on of his alts to buy a Senior member account on Auction section : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203174.msg12642318#msg12642318

username => saturn643 ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365430 )

neutral trust
Registered 2014
post 240+
potential activity 370+
password changed on 10th October ( http://web.archive.org/web/20151013182328/https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php )


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: SFR10 on October 13, 2015, 05:22:33 PM
Lol   :P

don't you notice all those feebacks were given by same user jaycee using his alt scumbug

If I give you feedback that you are alt of a big scammer then you will?  ;D
read the proofs he given in comments for negative feedback on trust page  :o

use common sense friend  ;)
Just did, I apologize for being wrong on this matter and after some more reviews I found out your right and already removed your name on the thread , once again sorry for my mistake


@SFR10 read the "proof" for Shield again. The brackets make it somewhat easy to miss. I will quote it slightly modified with my own additions in [] below to make it clear.

-snip-
So please tell me that on my profile [the user] "shield" [has] given me untrust mark. Please let me know did i done any mistake here ??

I removed my rating towards Shield respectively and will leave a neutral rating to explain the situation.
Thank you for solving this end of the problem , I realized late and sorry for pointing at the wrong person here and already corrected the thread and will also leave a feedback on Shield account explaining this matter as well


thanks shorena

and I have spend some of my time and found the account that was bought by scammer escrowboy in auction
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php?topic=1203174.0



username => saturn643 ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365430 )

neutral trust
Registered 2014
post 240+
potential activity 370+
password changed on 10th October
Thank you for looking further into finding this scammer, I will monitor this user for some times before posting his name, in order to make sure if he is the guy, once again thank you :)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: sell-acc on October 13, 2015, 11:11:52 PM
Lol   :P

don't you notice all those feebacks were given by same user jaycee using his alt scumbug

If I give you feedback that you are alt of a big scammer then you will?  ;D
read the proofs he given in comments for negative feedback on trust page  :o

use common sense friend  ;)
Just did, I apologize for being wrong on this matter and after some more reviews I found out your right and already removed your name on the thread , once again sorry for my mistake


@SFR10 read the "proof" for Shield again. The brackets make it somewhat easy to miss. I will quote it slightly modified with my own additions in [] below to make it clear.

-snip-
So please tell me that on my profile [the user] "shield" [has] given me untrust mark. Please let me know did i done any mistake here ??

I removed my rating towards Shield respectively and will leave a neutral rating to explain the situation.
Thank you for solving this end of the problem , I realized late and sorry for pointing at the wrong person here and already corrected the thread and will also leave a feedback on Shield account explaining this matter as well


thanks shorena

and I have spend some of my time and found the account that was bought by scammer escrowboy in auction
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php?topic=1203174.0



username=%26gt%3B saturn643 ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365430 )

neutral trust
Registered 2014
post 240+
potential activity 370+
password changed on 10th October
Thank you for looking further into finding this scammer, I will monitor this user for some times before posting his name, in order to make sure if he is the guy, once again thank you :)

hello, escrowboy don't bought the account...
it was sold to another user
My Account is available to any Escrow for check the Pms


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: BruceLee007 on October 15, 2015, 03:21:16 AM
Hey guys

The main account of this guy is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520680     lastuser

he bought the hardtime account from me when it was potential full member account also i didn't get paid from btcbounty i will send shorena a pm and will ask him to left a negative feedback to his account .

regards

Edit : i am pm's save when he bought the account if its need to posted here let me know !


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
Hey guys

The main account of this guy is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=520680     lastuser

he bought the hardtime account from me when it was potential full member account also i didn't get paid from btcbounty i will send shorena a pm and will ask him to left a negative feedback to his account .

regards

Edit : i am pm's save when he bought the account if its need to posted here let me know !
great work
post some proofs so we can confirm this


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: BruceLee007 on October 15, 2015, 05:03:27 AM
username : hardtime

pass : Hardtime992158

addy : 1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf

Thanks for trusting dude. Btw where's the signed message?
Also where will i send the payment

send the btc here 1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf

i owned the address thats why told you send there if you still need sign msg can provide you
Yea dude, i need your sign message for future reference, i'm gonna save it

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is hardtime from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.09.03 i am selling my account to "lastuser"
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf
HKicTKkiINGHXpYiKqceFFiib/yrLYlt0UtsHpaPsNerKpJtktAvH5Caec1Zs432PUL/4XHllqN+DlmHH/Sia/0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Verified! I'm gonna send the btc in a few minutes when i secured the account. Wait my PM from hardtime

Hey dude, it's lastuser and this account is secured by me now ;) Gonna send you the payment now
Just wanna double check, this is your address right where will i send the payment right?
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf

Payment sent! https://blockchain.info/tx/7fab5953b8b3c904ffacaa71f6e9c128eaf95b0a5bfade37b12c069d25985cd9
Thanks for trusting ;)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 05:51:26 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 06:00:26 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)
when you sold this
post some proofs


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 06:03:51 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 15, 2015, 06:24:17 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.

I see that the password for hardtime was changed twice late Sept[1], if you can provide proof that the accounts had been sold on Oct 3th (or earlier) I am willing to remove the ratings.

[1] https://archive.is/mAR4S


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 06:27:10 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)
when you sold this
post some proofs
What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.
Both,
provide proofs like who bought them , who was escrow, payment amount, tx ID for payment etc


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
Dude kindly get rid of lastuser's name here cuz it has a new owner as I sold it days ago. Yes, I am lastuser and I am the one who bought hardtime from you :) The said accounts were already sold and in control by two completely different user respectively (hardtime was sold to a scammer(now) and lastuser was sold to a reputable hero  member). I don't wanna let that reputable hero member be involved on this :)
when you sold this
post some proofs

What account are you referring? The lastuser one or the hardtime one? Or both? I will be posting proofs here as long as its needed, let me know what account it is.

I see that the password for hardtime was changed twice late Sept[1], if you can provide proof that the accounts had been sold on Oct 3th (or earlier) I am willing to remove the ratings.

[1] https://archive.is/mAR4S

Actually it was sold earlier, give me a minute to look up those proofs including the PMs and the transaction id ofthe payment


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 06:39:37 AM
he says that account was sold on 13 October, the same day user started scam accusation but when I asked him for proofs he say he can't give those details

if he don't provide proofs then I doubt the account is still controlled by him and he is lying, account was not sold just changed the password

here is his PM

I sold it recently , just on oct 13. I don't wanna disclose our deal as the buyer is a trusted one and he bought it privately. I want to ask a permission from him first before disclosing his identity as a buyer of the account. Can you wait?
you sold the account on 13th oct the same day when Scam Accusation was opened
and you don't even have proofs that account was sold, because you didn't sent any proofs

if you can't provide me proofs then I think its still your alt
name of the user who bought the account, payment amount and link to the transaction
Sorry you don't have enough reputation that I can trust you with such confidential details, feel free to list it as I am innocent. I will be only giving these details to a reputable member and to a certified scam buster, not to a wannabe


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 06:42:13 AM
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hi,
Payment Sent 0.06 BTC to 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

Please send me the account details and signed message.

Waiting for your reply, Thanks
Thanks! Payment received!
user: hardtime
Pass: thankyou

 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is hardtime from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.09.03 i am selling my account to "lastuser"
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf
HKicTKkiINGHXpYiKqceFFiib/yrLYlt0UtsHpaPsNerKpJtktAvH5Caec1Zs432PUL/4XHllqN+DlmHH/Sia/0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Note: lastuser is my another account,  a full member also, im selling it also if you want ;D

Here's the tx id of his payment  https://blockchain.info/tx/601ff7e1bad0847f78555c03db5e060436d5039a4c1ad4d4756ff9a872cebcc9

@shorena: regarding to lastuser, I am willing to send our conversation with the buyer as you are reputable enough to hold confidential details, just let me know


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 06:47:03 AM
he says that account was sold on 13 October, the same day user started scam accusation but when I asked him for proofs he say he can't give those details

if he don't provide proofs then I doubt the account is still controlled by him and he is lying, account was not sold just changed the password

here is his PM

I sold it recently , just on oct 13. I don't wanna disclose our deal as the buyer is a trusted one and he bought it privately. I want to ask a permission from him first before disclosing his identity as a buyer of the account. Can you wait?
you sold the account on 13th oct the same day when Scam Accusation was opened
and you don't even have proofs that account was sold, because you didn't sent any proofs

if you can't provide me proofs then I think its still your alt
name of the user who bought the account, payment amount and link to the transaction
Sorry you don't have enough reputation that I can trust you with such confidential details, feel free to list it as I am innocent. I will be only giving these details to a reputable member and to a certified scam buster, not to a wannabe

Just shut up scam buster wannabe, you'll definitely eat your words after I cleared this up. ::) Anyways I don't have more time arguing with   you.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 06:55:56 AM
Here are some alts of Laosai
Patatas
phibay
Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader
=> (More Coming soon)


Tx ID
https://blockchain.info/tx/2c0d76d09ba5ac1f5aa4c0ec4a74dce336c00fbd3ec8b8e43fa43e836e77e5eb
http://blockinfo.org/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11849004#msg11849004
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12342356#msg12342356
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12394425#msg12394425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12337215#msg12337215
https://archive.is/CPy3Z


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 15, 2015, 06:57:48 AM
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hi,
Payment Sent 0.06 BTC to 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

Please send me the account details and signed message.

Waiting for your reply, Thanks
Thanks! Payment received!
user: hardtime
Pass: thankyou

 -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is hardtime from bitcointalk.org and today is 2015.09.03 i am selling my account to "lastuser"
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KQtiRVB7x8h7R7aLbHTqAzN4YNv5d8GQf
HKicTKkiINGHXpYiKqceFFiib/yrLYlt0UtsHpaPsNerKpJtktAvH5Caec1Zs432PUL/4XHllqN+DlmHH/Sia/0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Note: lastuser is my another account,  a full member also, im selling it also if you want ;D

Here's the tx id of his payment  https://blockchain.info/tx/601ff7e1bad0847f78555c03db5e060436d5039a4c1ad4d4756ff9a872cebcc9

@shorena: regarding to lastuser, I am willing to send our conversation with the buyer as you are reputable enough to hold confidential details, just let me know

Someone dodged a bullet there, will remove the rating. see edit below.

If you get permission to share what you have regarding lastuser, let me know.

Here are some alts of Laosai
-snip-

Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.

Edit: Just a second... if hardtime was sold why did I get the following PMs?

After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to delete the negative trust feedback.

Due to low funds i not paid, After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to remove the negative trust feedback ok.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 07:03:31 AM
I got same PMs from Hardtime and escrowboy


After i do all payments i will intimate you and you need to delete the negative trust feedback.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

I don't know why you peoples are concentrating on me as i said i will pay for it. I will pay to all users please don't keep on follow me and mark the untrust. I am looking for a person who will make all the payments.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 07:06:50 AM
Kindly check your PM shorena , I already sent the details and please keep it private as possible as I don't want the buyer to be involved on this :)


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 07:10:04 AM
Here are some alts of Laosai
-snip-

Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.
yes it is
he had many alts and he may list any of his alt as buyer for the account lastuser
So he should share the name of person who bought the account lastuser so we can check if he is his own alt or different user


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:13:02 AM
Kindly check your PM shorena , I already sent the details and please keep it private as possible as I don't want the buyer to be involved on this :)

Yes, Im checking back with the other person.

Here are some alts of Laosai
-snip-

Is that relevant here? If not please dont make this more complicated than it needs to be.
yes it is
he had many alts and he may list any of his alt as buyer for the account lastuser
So he should share the name of person who bought the account lastuser so we can check if he is his own alt or different user

I will see if they are willing to share that, I dont think it will be an issue.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 07:15:21 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 15, 2015, 07:18:42 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I think I was not clear enough. I got the name of the buyer and contacted them to verify the information Laosai gave me. Once thats done I will ask them to state they bought the account here. Considering who the buyer is, I dont think this will be a problem.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 07:25:19 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I think I was not clear enough. I got the name of the buyer and contacted them to verify the information Laosai gave me. Once thats done I will ask them to state they bought the account here. Considering who the buyer is, I dont think this will be a problem.
yes
its not a problem sharing the name of buyer, forum allow having multiple accounts
but its an open scam accusation so we must know name of the buyer, payment amount and tx to confirm this account was sold

ask the laosai for payment amount and tx id of the payment for account lastuser sell, just name of the buyer is not enough


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 07:33:18 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I'm afraid to share the name of the buyer not because of my alts, its because I care about the privacy of the buyer since we had a deal privately. That's why I told you to wait and I will ask a permission to the buyer if I can disclose his identity as the buyer. Good thing shorena was here to help, thanks man!


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Shield on October 15, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I'm afraid to share the name of the buyer not because of my alts, its because I care about the privacy of the buyer since we had a deal privately. That's why I told you to wait and I will ask a permission to the buyer if I can disclose his identity as the buyer. Good thing shorena was here to help, thanks man!
still other questions are unanswered
deal amount and payment tx id


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Laosai on October 15, 2015, 07:39:16 AM
I asked him to share the name of buyer and said that i will not share name in public if he is not related to scam
but he is afraid to share the name because i know his many alts

I think I was not clear enough. I got the name of the buyer and contacted them to verify the information Laosai gave me. Once thats done I will ask them to state they bought the account here. Considering who the buyer is, I dont think this will be a problem.
yes
its not a problem sharing the name of buyer, forum allow having multiple accounts
but its an open scam accusation so we must know name of the buyer, payment amount and tx to confirm this account was sold

ask the laosai for payment amount and tx id of the payment for account lastuser sell, just name of the buyer is not enough

FYI I already gave shorena such details, No need to worrry :) Let's just wait the judgement of shorena after he contacted the buyer


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 15, 2015, 09:00:46 AM
-snip-
yes
its not a problem sharing the name of buyer, forum allow having multiple accounts
-snip-

Sure its a problem. If someone asks me to keep something private, I keep it private.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: ranochigo on October 16, 2015, 03:11:19 AM
I am the one who bought the account "lastuser" on 13 October 2015, 9.44pm GMT+8. I have selected BIN after looking in laosai's auction.

TXID:http://blockexplorer.com/tx/efe672f2b6a609f6dcc2fa6588de7ff5cdc49d85b1368b4ab79d9fb5123f7fc3
Auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206848.0


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: Rude Boy on October 17, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
Really i don't know, what's the problem with btcbounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=541941) as per shorena's request on PM, i'm posting the proof of payment got from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199495.0) here https://blockchain.info/tx/277e33cfe5fdd23a21ec8e458a178ed9ba66903cfeeb15e9967e28bedbf3700c


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: bms2013 on October 17, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
Hmm,I also got paid .... what's wrong? https://blockchain.info/tx/a536574995711826291be434e2bababec134ec3ba99dca790aabe49eb4f40dff


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 17, 2015, 11:32:30 AM
Really i don't know, what's the problem with btcbounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=541941) as per shorena's request on PM, i'm posting the proof of payment got from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199495.0) here https://blockchain.info/tx/277e33cfe5fdd23a21ec8e458a178ed9ba66903cfeeb15e9967e28bedbf3700c

Hmm,I also got paid .... what's wrong? https://blockchain.info/tx/a536574995711826291be434e2bababec134ec3ba99dca790aabe49eb4f40dff

Thanks for the confirmation.

The thread was created because not all participating have recieved their payment yet.

2/20 confirmed, according to my list.


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: SmartIphone on October 17, 2015, 02:20:00 PM
I also got shorena PM, i am feeling really bad that btcbounty is still not paying us. Maybe within few days he will clear the payments?


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 17, 2015, 05:11:37 PM
I also got shorena PM, i am feeling really bad that btcbounty is still not paying us. Maybe within few days he will clear the payments?

I hope so, but I dont know. For now I made a spreadsheet to keep track of things -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WwHFi086-iRlgr-8xK6VI90d5nKCcfQ2oHn9QmYu2aw/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: SmartIphone on October 17, 2015, 06:27:20 PM
I also got shorena PM, i am feeling really bad that btcbounty is still not paying us. Maybe within few days he will clear the payments?

I hope so, but I dont know. For now I made a spreadsheet to keep track of things -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WwHFi086-iRlgr-8xK6VI90d5nKCcfQ2oHn9QmYu2aw/edit?usp=sharing

Received a payment of 0.002 don't know if it sent btcbounty, what about others?


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: SFR10 on October 17, 2015, 06:33:17 PM
Also received the payment as you could see here: https://blockchain.info/tx/133ef8982ed479e1ccacfd0a56ef94b7ceb792fcca5863eeb3c32b9d9241712f

Received a payment of 0.002 don't know if it sent btcbounty, what about others?
Same for me , he used another address for sending this time


Title: Re: User btcbounty Scammer ( Alt Accounts: hardtime / escrowboy / wayayo )
Post by: shorena on October 17, 2015, 07:07:30 PM
To the best of my knowledge everyone was paid. TX IDs can be found here -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WwHFi086-iRlgr-8xK6VI90d5nKCcfQ2oHn9QmYu2aw/edit?usp=sharing

All TX are confirmed, some recipients did not answer, but I would still think its settled.